Vonda Wood is a long but must read article about the Rapture, the Wrath of God and an answer to Ron Reese about the half our of silence in Revelation not being the half hour Obama broadcast on October 29, 2008.
Very good Vonda.
http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/nov2009/vondaw1127-2.htm
Vonda Wood (27 Nov 2009)
“Wrath, tribulation and the church“
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This afternoon I went out for a short trip in my car and in a traffic light there was a car in front with the license plate
999 JLV.
On June of 2008 I started this blog due to some very interesting license plates and one was 999 GOD, please go to the link and read the post. scroll to the bottom of the page.
Nando
This is a very interesting letter from a black woman lawyer who also graduated from Harvard. It is worth reading.
Nando
http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/nov2009/laura1125.htm
Laura (25 Nov 2009)
“THE SOURCE OF OBAMA’S ANTI-ISRAEL POLICY“
Good work Pastor Riley. Your study about the possible time of the Rapture is scriptural and inspiring Please follow the link to the article
Nando
http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/nov2009/fmriley1125.htm
F.M. Riley (25 Nov 2009)
“Come before winter…..“
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I just tried to get into www.fivedoves.com and a the following message poped up. Please notice the Zeus technology signature. Zeus is the Greek god that represents Satan.
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November 24, 2009 Lotto & Billionaires Proof Obama 666 antichrist
John Tng has written an article in fivedoves.com that again offers more proof that Obama is the 666 Antichrist.
Good job John may Jesus bless you greatly for your dedication to His name and Word. You have truly uncovered a multitude of encoded things pertaining to this lawless man.
Nando
http://twelvebooks.wordpress.com
http://www.fivedoves.com/rapture/2009/2009_signs.html
John Tng (24 Nov 2009)
“Supernatural SIGNS”
The hour is late. The stage is set for the grand entrance of the antichrist to begin the countdown to Armageddon. We are on the brink of the Great Tribulation spoken of by Jesus 2000 years ago. The timing of the Apocalypse hinges on the revealing of the lawless one. Is he already in power? Has he begun pulling the levers of world politics to bring in global governance? Are there supernatural signs we can discern that point to him as the beast?
In accordance with Amos 3:7, God has not been silent. The unsealing of the Book of Daniel and the Book of Revelation is gathering pace even as the world hurtles towards the end of days at breakneck speed. God has spoken to many watchers in a multiplicity of ways — dreams & visions, insights & understanding of prophetic scriptures, and numbers & gematria. In this article, I want to share with you a few numbers that will totally blow you away. They originate from the most surprising of sources. The supernatural signs wrought by these numbers are only possible because God is able to order events and exercise sovereign control over the affairs of man. He is still the Boss.
SIGN #1: Lot 666
On the day Obama won the election and became the most powerful man in the world, the Illinois pick 3 lottery drawn was 666. (Obama was a senator of Illinois before election.) Many believe this is a SIGN. The sceptics, however, are none too impressed by this 666 lottery and poo poo the believers who seem to them to make much ado about nothing.
I dug a little deeper and came away convinced that this is indeed a sign from God. I did a search on past winning numbers and was shocked at what I found in the table below (see link).
| Y E A R |
1 9 8 0 |
1 9 8 1 |
1 9 8 2 |
1 9 8 3 |
1 9 8 4 |
1 9 8 5 |
1 9 8 6 |
1 9 8 7 |
1 9 8 8 |
1 9 8 9 |
1 9 9 0 |
1 9 9 1 |
1 9 9 2 |
1 9 9 3 |
1 9 9 4 |
1 9 9 5 |
1 9 9 6 |
1 9 9 7 |
1 9 9 8 |
1 9 9 9 |
2 0 0 0 |
2 0 0 1 |
2 0 0 2 |
2 0 0 3 |
2 0 0 4 |
2 0 0 5 |
2 0 0 6 |
2 0 0 7 |
2 0 0 8 |
2 0 0 9 |
| 666 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 0 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 0 | 2 | 1 | 1 | 0 | 1 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 4 | 0 |
The figures went as far back as 1980, presumably the year the pick 3 lottery or its records started. There were four 666 pick 3 winnings in 2008 — the year Obama got elected as the president of the United States! The last 666 winning number came out in the evening draw Nov 5, 2008, several hours after Obama won the election in the early hours on the same day. The frequency of the 666 pick in 2008 is unusually high compared to all other years, including 2009, which registers zero count so far.
Forget about math, statistics and probability. Just think with common sense. Why was there such an unusually high concentration of 666 winnings in Obama’s home state in 2008, the year he won the election? Out of the 366 days in 2008, of all days, why on the same day when Obama became president-elect, the 666 number was picked?
Why?
As I dug deeper, I became more and more astounded by the 666 lottery. If I didn’t know better, I would have attributed the enigma either to super-powerful global controllers or super-intelligent extraterrestrials, pulling strings from behind the scenes. But instead, I believe God has a hand in it. Consider this: The time of the evening draw is 9:22 p.m. (link), exactly 562 minutes after twelve noon. When 562 is added to the English gematria of OBAMA (60+2+1+40+1=104), the sum is 562 + 104 = 666 !!!
More coincidence of course!
Midday draws are at 12:40 p.m., or 40 minutes after twelve noon. Of the four 666 picks in 2008, THREE were drawn in the evening and ONE at midday; thus, the total duration in minutes after twelve noon is 562 + 562 + 562 + 40 = 1726.
I fell out of my chair when I saw the number!
1726 is the English gematria value of US PRESIDENT (933) BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA (793) !!!!!! Four 666 picks were drawn at the PRECISE time to point to just one man, with the last 666 pick culminating on the day he won the election. Think about that.
Is this even possible?
But with God all things are possible. If we further consider the four mornings we excluded when we computed 1726, the total duration of the four mornings is 4 × 720 = 2880 minutes. This unbelievable total is the English gematria sum of US PRESIDENT BARACK OBAMA (1154) and US PRESIDENT BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA (1726) !!!!!!
If God can open the mouth of Balaam’s donkey to convey His words, what makes you think He cannot use the lottery to send a message?
SIGN #2: Ye Rich Men, Weep and Howl
Shortly after Obama assumed office on Jan 20, 2009, an intriguing list of the world’s richest people published by FORBES (link) caught my eye:
The richest people in the world have gotten poorer, just like the rest of us. This year the world’s billionaires have an average net worth of $3 billion, down 23% in 12 months. The world now has 793 billionaires, down from 1,125 a year ago.
At the time of publication in March this year, the total number of billionaires in 2009 stood at 793. Observe that it is neither 792 or 794; it is 793 – the exact English gematria of BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA !!!
The ‘coincidence’ is uncanny to say the least. But does it qualify to be a supernatural sign? Is it a valid sign or is it just an insignificant happenstance? When I took a relook at the FORBES figures, a sudden realization dawned on me ……….. In 2009, there are 793 billionaires, a significant drop from the 2008 figure, which is 1125, thanks to the financial crisis.
When I saw the number 1125, I fell out of my chair a second time!
The number 1125 did not mean a thing to me two months ago. I became acquainted with it only recently when I made my major discovery in the Genesis 1:1 Pyramid (link). The secret hidden in the G-Pyramid contains startling information on the election of Barack Hussein Obama (793), the 44th president of the United States in 2008. This ancient secret had been buried in the stones for six thousand years and only saw the light of day after its recent fulfillment. The errie precision of the code makes your hair stand on end. The man, the date, the year, down to the 56th term of office he is currently serving, are dead on.
Apparently six thousand years ago God already knew about the FORBES’ lists of world’s richest people for 2008 and 2009. But this is no big deal for the Omniscient. It is interesting that the billionaire figures are encoded in the OBAMA cluster in such a way as to suggest that he is the money lord of the world. Concerning the antichrist’s theft of the wealth of nations, Isaiah says, “And my hand hath found as a nest the riches of the people: and as one gathereth eggs that are left, have I gathered all the earth; and there was none that moved the wing, or opened the mouth, or peeped.” (Isa 10:14)
The fact that knocks me over and blows me away is this: The black stone 793 (BHO) in the above pyramid illustration is in fact the blue stone 1125 !!!
BLUE STONE 1125 = BLACK STONE 793 !!!!!!
(Read this article for the stone color explanation.)
The FORBES billionaire figures for 2008 and 2009 are both captured in one fell swoop on one stone — the OBAMA stone! To top it all, the black vertical line (illustration above) representing the 56th column (56th term of presidential office) passes through the blue stones 2008 and 2009 !!!
Can it be any clearer? Can we find a more fortuitous set of circumstances, events or people that can generate such a precise fit?
Hab 1:5 (NKJV)
Look among the nations and watch –
Be utterly astounded!
For I will work a work in your days
Which you would not believe, though it were told you.
Just like SIGN #1, the confirmation provided by SIGN #2 linking the OBAMA code in the Genesis Pyramid and the 1125 billionaires in 2008 & 793 billionaires in 2009, is unquestionably supernatural. Only the all-knowing God is able to foresee the future few thousand years ahead of time and conceal the information in advance for us to search out.
But what do the numbers point to other than the fact that Obama is somehow connected to the world’s richest people?
The simple equation below should dispel all doubts as to the intent of the code.
2008 = 883 + 1125
As reported by FORBES, there were 1125 billionaires in 2008. The difference between the year and the head count is 2008 – 1125 = 883. Is it serendipity, or pure randomness, or synchronicity, or whatever godless New Age mumbo-jumbo currently in vogue, or maybe just plain weirdness, that 883 just happens to be the English gematria of THE ANTICHRIST?
Go figure.
THERE IS ABSOLUTELY NO QUESTION ABOUT IT !
The lawless one is about to be revealed, doves. Just hang on a while longer and our excruciating wait will be over. But, meanwhile, fight the good fight of faith, lay hold on eternal life, continue to occupy and put up with the flood of evil sweeping across the globe everywhere. It cannot be much longer. God’s patience is fast running out. He will not and cannot strive with reprobate men continually. Of this you can be sure: These men have exceeded the wickedness of Sodom and Gomorrah many times over.
IT’S ABOUT TIME, LORD!
John
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http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/nov2009/kevinh1123.htm
Kevin Heckle (23 Nov 2009)
“President Barack Hussein Obama II equals 666 x 3″
| p | 96 |
| r | 108 |
| e | 30 |
| s | 114 |
| i | 54 |
| d | 24 |
| e | 30 |
| n | 84 |
| t | 120 |
| b | 12 |
| a | 6 |
| r | 108 |
| a | 6 |
| c | 18 |
| k | 66 |
| h | 48 |
| u | 126 |
| s | 114 |
| s | 114 |
| e | 30 |
| i | 54 |
| n | 84 |
| o | 90 |
| b | 12 |
| a | 6 |
| m | 78 |
| a | 6 |
| s | 114 |
| e | 30 |
| c | 18 |
| o | 90 |
| n | 84 |
| d | 24 |
| 1998 |
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Interesting, Kevin! Thanks!
John
Nando
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This article by Lisa Taylor was posted on fivedoves.com it is a very good critique of the articles that Ron Reese has written and published in five doves.
I can agree with most of her observations and conclusions.
Good article and a very proper way to show the weaknesses of an argument or train of thought from a very good fellow believer.
Nando
http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/nov2009/lisat1123.htm
Lisa Taylor (23 Nov 2009)
“To Ron Reese — I must disagree”
I must disagree with your interpretation of the timing of the Rapture based upon the Joseph narrative. I too enjoy Biblical typology and have looked into the possible types connected to Joseph.
Please check out my post on this from June 24, 2009: http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/june2009/lisat624.htm
Please note that Joseph already had a Gentile bride in the narrative. Therefore, it is unlikely that his brothers also represent the Church. If you read my post, you will see that I believe that the brothers are types for the 144,000 Jews, since they are the patriarchs of the 12 Tribes of Israel. Their father Jacob is a type of Israel – which makes sense because God changed his name to Israel.
Logistically, the 144,000 Jews must come to the Lord prior to the nation Israel – to whom they will be witnessing. Thus, the 2 and 5 year division of the 7 famine years could represent the point in the Tribulation when the they are sealed.
For reasons I will not get into here, I believe that there is a 10 year timeframe from the time of the Rapture to the Second Coming. Consequently, I do not think we have to squeeze everything prior to a 2015 deadline.
Look, even if 2015 is a Jubilee year, you must remember that the fulfillment of the Year of Jubilee must be, by definition, one year long. Therefore, the Second Coming cannot be the fulfillment of Jubilee. At most, it could be an event that wraps up the Year.
I personally put Jubilee earlier in the Tribulation. The Bible clearly states that Jesus begins to reign at the blowing of the Seventh Trumpet. See Revelation 11:15-17. This is at the mid-point of the Tribulation and prior to the Second Coming. We are also given this statement in Revelation 10:7: “But in the days when the seventh angel is about to sound his trumpet, the mystery of God will be accomplished, just as he announced to his servants the prophets.”
Jesus beginning His reign? The mystery of God being accomplished? This sure sounds like a good candidate for the start of the Year of Jubilee to me.
Please check out my post on this subject from July 27, 2009: http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/july2009/lisat727.htm
Ron, I do not doubt your sincerity and personal sacrifice. I fear, however, that you have gotten yourself so married to a 2015 Second Coming that you are jamming a square peg into a round hole. You have officially started the Tribulation and talked yourself out of a Pre-Tribulation Rapture just to keep your position alive. The events of the book of Revelation are not even remotely chronological to you. And now you seem to be playing fast and loose with Biblical types.
If you need to do all of these things to make your position work, then maybe you need to reassess your position. None of us are 100 percent correct. And you are among friends here. It is okay to admit that some things may need to be tweaked.
I do not intend to be harsh or to offend you. But I believe you know that you have an impact on the opinions of many people – not just on this forum. That is a grave responsibility. Sure, a stopped watch could be a sign from God. But I find that a position’s consistency with the Biblical text to be the ultimate proof that the position is of God.
God bless you.
– Lisa Taylor
November 23, 2009 Comments to Ron Reese (23 Nov 2009)
Ron Reese (23 Nov 2009)
“GENESIS 45–JOSEPH’S FAMINE WEEK–THE KEY TO UNLOCKING THE TIME OF THE RAPTURE!!“
http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/nov2009/ronr1123.htm
Ron has written a very good letter concerning Genesis Chapter 45. The following points are things that I agree with Ron.
1) Barack Hussein Obama is the Antichrist.
2) The church will be present in the world to know the identity of the Antichrist. This is already a partial fait accompli thanks to John and all the other doves that have presented this evidence and to the Holy Spirit who works in all believers to recognize the Antichrist without the need to prove it as it has been done in fivedoves.
3) The church is going to be removed before the sudden destruction.
4) We both agree in the significance of the solar and lunar eclipses dates found by Pastor Mark Biltz as interviewed by J.R. Church, and the link obtained in BG Ellis site.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FuJYI6yoefg
I do not have any disagreement with his letter although at this point I am not 100 % sure that the October 29, 2008 Obama covenant is the seven year covenant referred to in Daniel.
The comparison to the seven years of famine can be correct in my opinion even if the start of the tribulation is not on date of October 29, 2008.
One thing I want to point out about a type in the Old Testament that I think has a direct link to our time is Genesis 19
1 The two angels arrived at Sodom in the evening, and Lot was sitting in the gateway of the city. When he saw them, he got up to meet them and bowed down with his face to the ground. 2 “My lords,” he said, “please turn aside to your servant’s house. You can wash your feet and spend the night and then go on your way early in the morning.”
“No,” they answered, “we will spend the night in the square.”
3 But he insisted so strongly that they did go with him and entered his house. He prepared a meal for them, baking bread without yeast, and they ate. 4 Before they had gone to bed, all the men from every part of the city of Sodom—both young and old—surrounded the house. 5 They called to Lot, “Where are the men who came to you tonight? Bring them out to us so that we can have sex with them.”
6 Lot went outside to meet them and shut the door behind him 7 and said, “No, my friends. Don’t do this wicked thing. 8 Look, I have two daughters who have never slept with a man. Let me bring them out to you, and you can do what you like with them. But don’t do anything to these men, for they have come under the protection of my roof.”
9 “Get out of our way,” they replied. And they said, “This fellow came here as an alien, and now he wants to play the judge! We’ll treat you worse than them.” They kept bringing pressure on Lot and moved forward to break down the door.
10 But the men inside reached out and pulled Lot back into the house and shut the door. 11 Then they struck the men who were at the door of the house, young and old, with blindness so that they could not find the door.
12 The two men said to Lot, “Do you have anyone else here—sons-in-law, sons or daughters, or anyone else in the city who belongs to you? Get them out of here, 13 because we are going to destroy this place. The outcry to the LORD against its people is so great that he has sent us to destroy it.”
14 So Lot went out and spoke to his sons-in-law, who were pledged to marry [a] his daughters. He said, “Hurry and get out of this place, because the LORD is about to destroy the city!” But his sons-in-law thought he was joking.
15 With the coming of dawn, the angels urged Lot, saying, “Hurry! Take your wife and your two daughters who are here, or you will be swept away when the city is punished.”
16 When he hesitated, the men grasped his hand and the hands of his wife and of his two daughters and led them safely out of the city, for the LORD was merciful to them. 17 As soon as they had brought them out, one of them said, “Flee for your lives! Don’t look back, and don’t stop anywhere in the plain! Flee to the mountains or you will be swept away!”
The Lord referred to this in Luke Chapter 17
26“Just as it was in the days of Noah, so also will it be in the days of the Son of Man. 27People were eating, drinking, marrying and being given in marriage up to the day Noah entered the ark. Then the flood came and destroyed them all.
28“It was the same in the days of Lot. People were eating and drinking, buying and selling, planting and building. 29But the day Lot left Sodom, fire and sulfur rained down from heaven and destroyed them all.
30“It will be just like this on the day the Son of Man is revealed. 31On that day no one who is on the roof of his house, with his goods inside, should go down to get them. Likewise, no one in the field should go back for anything. 32Remember Lot’s wife! 33Whoever tries to keep his life will lose it, and whoever loses his life will preserve it. 34I tell you, on that night two people will be in one bed; one will be taken and the other left. 35Two women will be grinding grain together; one will be taken and the other left.”[d]
Please notice that the two angels could be a type of the two witnesses who were sent with the purpose of warning Lot and his family of the impending judgment. They were sent to destroy the cities and to warn the just.
So my question keeps insisting in my head, where are the two witnesses? The answers that some doves have given are appreciated, but I do not believe that they are correct.
It is a very good article Ron, and I am not a scholar just a student with an inquisitive mind and a heart full of love for the Word.
Nando
http://twelvebooks.wordpress.com
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Zinc Dimes, Tungsten Gold and Lost Respect
The article whose link is given here is about a big economic fraud perpetrated by the US Gvt and the banks of London with their falsified gold bullion’s. It turns out that the Chinese were given tungsten bars covered in gold to fake a true 100% GOLD bar.
It is a good economic analysis of very powerful power moves.
Nando
http://www.kitco.com/ind/willie/nov182009.html
Zinc Dimes, Tungsten Gold & Lost Respect
By Jim Willie CB