Twelve Books – Rapture, Antichrist, End Time Signs, Prophecy, News

It is my contention ever since the beginning of the Arab Spring that the results of these revolutions and upheavals will be the imposition of Islamic radical dictatorship in all these countries and that this would lead to the end time scenario in the prophecies of the Bible. Little known to these people are the strings that are being pulled in the background without their knowledge. These strings are used to place all the Islamic world into a war against Israel.

From this war the manipulators behind the scenes are hoping that Israel will be debilitated or destroyed completely so that they can easily impose a one world government.

In the video by Mr. Stearman he starts with the role of the USA Obama administration in the recognition of the peaceful Muslim Brotherhood that must be supported and recognized. It is the ultimate affront that will be committed against Israel and the descendants of Ishmael that have align themselves against Israel and the God of Israel.

As in many articles before it is my believe that Obama will become the Antichrist of the Apocalypse and it is in this role that he is laying out the groundwork for his complete control of the World.

The prophecies read in the video tell of the complete destruction that will be meted to the forces of Islam at that time.

Nando

Nando

Nicole has put together several videos and charts that are a must to see or read.

The importance of this years Pentecost Feast is again emphasized.

Nando

Nicole (24 Apr 2012)
“Pentecost 2012 My Next Watch“

I am not setting dates, but I did want to show you my findings about my next watch date of Pentecost 2012.   I have already made my mind up to watch through the end of the blood moons.   But these watches help me sustain through.

I found this chart by Luis Vega, and the “Swirls” on the chart almost look to me like the Norway Spiral, or that a “stargate” is opening for the Church to escape this Earth?
http://www.sonoma.edu/users/v/vegalu/eschatology_files/Pentecost.pdf

The Norway Spiral as the Sign of the Rapture & Eclipses and the Sign of the Rapture
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9XiGZk6A0-Y
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j34ROIQjoWI&feature=relmfu

Significant Crop Circle showing May 20th eclipse and Venus Transit tied to return of aliens
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sETtD5TX1Q8&feature=related

Charts by Luis Vega of the May 20th Eclipse and Venus Transit
http://www.sonoma.edu/users/v/vegalu/eschatology_files/Pleiades.pdf
http://www.sonoma.edu/users/v/vegalu/eschatology_files/Transit.pdf

Bible Study from Christsaves888 about watching for the rapture at Pentecost this year: Not Setting Dates but high watch
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YUn_rlw5Yd8&context=C4c64325ADvjVQa1PpcFMO5b1k9EI65HLHtxdXb3lNYKS0QTWWXik=
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gda4iwt_WX0&context=C4f3d00bADvjVQa1PpcFOMxonFl8Q6mpRpS8SVNEHCTimpncvSF_s=

What is really funny about his dream about the creatures chasing him to the water and he got on a boat named PENTECOST and they sat on the beach, reminds me of the movie Where the Wild Things Are the 2nd to the last scene of the movie…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kuiM_eqSoV0&context=C432d11bADvjVQa1PpcFOMxonFl8Q6mtoIlC1pk7e3KSxsQZcH9V8=
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pt-F93iwB_s&feature=related

Nando

A lot of material has been written about Psalm 83 and Mr. Jim Bram;ett gives us a very realistic view at this very important Psalm 83.

Many have argued that the Antichrist will arise from the Islamic world, but the prophets of Israel have clearly stated the destruction of the Islamic nations and the complete victory of the Antichrist for the seven years allotted to him by God.

Islam will disappear to be substituted by the worship of the Antichrist and his false religion. Mr. Bramlett successfully argues that the Rapture of the Church must happen before the seven years of Tribulation and I concur with this opinion. It looks that this is the year.

Nando

http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/march2012/jim317.htm

Jim Bramlett (17 March 2012)
“Psalm 83 commentary“

Below,  a Bible student friend has written an interesting commentary on Psalm 83.  It is timely and relevant because of all the talk that Psalm 83 describes our current situation.  He makes some interesting and provocative points.  Prayerfully consider.

Jim
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                                     “Why there is no war mentioned in Psalm 83“

  There are many today who are speaking of a “coming war“, which they say is mentioned in Psalm 83.  Despite this “rumor” the real reality is that the psalmist “never” mentions any war taking place in this Psalm 83, but he only reveals the “plot” of Israel’s enemies in Psalm 83 who are planning her annihilation as a nation.

( Psalm 83:4 – 8 )……”They have said,, “Come, and let us wipe them out as a nation;  That the name of Israel be remembered no more.”……….For they have conspired together with one mind;  Against “Thee ” ( the God of Israel ) do they make a covenant; The tents of Edom and the Ishmaelites; Moab, and the Hagrites; Gebal, and Ammon, and Amalek;  Philistia with the inhabitants of Tyre;  Assyria also has joined with them;  They have become a help to the children of Lot.”

Question: Is there any language in this text which suggests that there is a “war” taking place here in Psalm 83?
Answer: NO!

Notice that in this Psalm the enemies of Israel are ONLY making a “covenant” with one another and they are “plotting and planning out” Israel’s destruction only.  But nowhere within this text does it ever show nor mentioned that this “plot” which they are planning among themselves is ever carried out!   As a matter of fact the Psalmist is asking God to “step in” and intervene on behalf of Israel in order to “stop” the destruction of Israel.  Look at the text below.

( Psalm 83:9 – 18 )

….”Deal with them ( God ) as with Midian, as with Sisera and Jabin, at the torrent of Kishon………..who were destroyed at En-dor, Who became as dung for the ground…………..Make their nobles like Oreb and Zeeb, And all their princes like Zebah and Zalmunna,……….Who said, “Let us possess for ourselves the pastures of God.”……………O my God, make them like the whirling dust;  Like chaff before the wind,…………..Like fire that burns the forest,  And like a flame that sets onfire ,………..So pursue them with “Thy tempest“, And terrify them with “Thy storm.”……….Fill their faces with dishonor,  That they may seek Thy name, O Lord,…………Let them be ashamed and dismayed forever;………..And let them be humiliated and perish,………..That they may know that Thou alone, whose name is the Lord,  Art the Most High over all the earth.”

Question:…..Who is intervening here, and who is the one pursuing Israel’s enemies?

Answer:  God is “directly!”  ( This happens “inside” the “Day of the Lord ).

You will notice that the psalmist does NOT suggest, nor does he ask Israel herself to rise up and destroy her enemies which are listed.  And neither is he requesting that any “nation or nations” should intervene on the behalf of Israel.  But instead the text shows clearly that God will pursue and destroy Israel’s enemies “inside” the “Day of the Lord” Himself.   How do I know this?   I know this because you have to go back and read the last verse of Psalm 82:8, which “precedes” the opening of Psalm 83.

Psalm 82:8……..” Arise, O God, judge the earth!  For it is Thou who dost possess all the nations.”

This begs us to ask the following question:

Question:  Can God arise and judge the earth while the Church is still here????

Answer: Absolutely NOT!  The following verses I have listed below shows clearly that the members of the “body of Christ” are NOT appointed unto the wrath of God, nor shall they ever experience God’s wrath and judgments at anytime according to the following Scriptures: (  Rom. 5:9,  8:1;   1 Thess. 1:10,   5:9;   Rev. 3:10 ).

Since God cannot begin His “judgment program / Day of the Lord ” UNTIL the Church has been removed from the earth,  then it is clear that Psalm 82:8 is revealing that the Church has had to have already been “removed from the earth” at the time in which this “plot and plan” of Psalm 83 is already “in the works“,  and of which will be foiled, interrupted, and stopped by the very hand of God Himself at that time when He removes His Church.  Then begins the “Day of the Lord.”  You can see that the psalmist in Psalm 82:8 is asking God Himself to arise and judge the earth.  Then he goes right into Psalm 83 and reveals the plan of Israel’s enemies who are plotting her destruction.

Listen carefully!   The opening of Psalm 83 reveals to us “why“ the psalmist in Psalm 82:8 is asking God to…….“Arise, O God, judge the earth.“  It is because of what he reveals is being “planned and plotted out” against Israel in Psalm 83.

Psalm 83:1- 3………….”O God, do NOT remain quiet ; Do NOT be silent , and, O God, do NOT be still ………..For behold, Thine enemies make an uproar;  And those who hate Thee have exalted themselves…….They make shrewd plans against Thy people, and conspire toegther against Thy treasured ones.”

The opening of Psalm 83 reveals that the “Day of the Lord” has to open up in order for God to arise and “deal directly” with His and Israel’s enemies and save the nation ( 83:9-18 ).  This cannot and will not happen UNTIL Israel is “inside” the “Day of the Lord.”  And the “Day of the Lord” cannot happen UNTIL the “resurrection / Rapture” of the Church has taken place. God at this present time is NOT dealing directly with Israel and her enemies like He did in the Old Testament when He was calling out the nation of Israel unto Himself,  but instead He is “setting the stage” and allowing Israel’s enemies to continue their evil plot as He Himself is “setting them up” for destruction by His own hand!  God is allowing this so that His prophetic word can be “fulfilled” in Psalm 83.

So, what does this mean then?  It means that the “evil plan” of Israel’s enemies in Psalm 83 which is being “planned out” right now will NEVER COME TO PAST!  Israel is NOT going to be destroyed as God is NOT going to allow her enemies to do so.  For if God allowed this evil Arab plot to succeed,  then It would disrupt and destroy God’s prophetic plan for Israel. He can NEVER let this happen!

 The news coming out of the “Middle East” right now at the present time is revealing that Israel and the United States relations are taking a turn for the worst!   Israel’s back is “against the wall” as Iran is steaming fast ahead with her nuclear program. Time is running out and Israel wants to attack Iran and do “infrustructure” damage to their nuclear facilities before they can produce a nuclear weapon, but the United States and the international community is NOT supporting nor backing Israel’s desire to take out targets in Iran.  The clock is ticking!   So Israel is damned if she does and she is damned if she doesn’t.  We are watching the plot and plan of Psalm 83 right now folks!  It’s happening right now!  The Rapture has to be AT THE DOOR and it looks like more and more that we may very well be leaving this planet THIS YEAR as the “Iran crisis” will NOT wait another year!

The reality is this, that Israel needs the US. air and ground support ( which we are not agreeing to give them ) in order to carry out such a task!   They need our refueling jets, radar, ships, and submarine support…..etc. in order to succeed.  But the US., Europe, and the UN. are not backing Israel.  And while this is happening the terrorist organizations are continuing to stock pile weapons and military hardware as they are planning for an all out “missile war” against Israel.

Lebanon alone has 50 to 60,000 missiles along her border alone and the leader of the Hizbullah ( Nasrallah ) has already stated that they are preparing for a “missle war” against Israel in order to wipe them out with one giant swoop!   This does NOT include Syria and Iran’s capability combined along with the stockpiles down in Gaza.   The picture is “very grim” for Israel right now!  She has NEVER been in this kind of dilemma in the past, but now she is! This is a HUGE SIGN for us folks that we have reached THE END!

So, are you getting the picture here!  God cannot allow thousands , upon thousands , upon thousands of missles to come from every direction and wipe out the nation of Israel.  HE WILL NEVER ALLOW IT HAPPEN!   Israel has a powerful military, but she cannot take on all of her enemies all at once in the whole middle east at this time by themselves as they are surrounded with their backs to the Mediterranean Sea!

What Israel is facing today in the middle east is like NOTHING that they have ever faced in the past!   Israel cannot pull off such a task today by herself as the middle east is more complex and dangerous than it has ever been!  The enemies of Israel have risen up and have been stockpiling missiles and armament to the point that they now feel confident that they can pull off the task of wiping her off the face of the map!  Israel’s “back door” is now open ( Sinai / Egypt) as the “Sadat / Begin” Egyptian / Israeli peace agreement is now cancelled due to the fall of Mubarak in Egypt.

Do you now understand where we are at today prophetically!

 Israel at this time has no true support nor any friend to “raise a finger” in order to help her. The economies of the world are “broke” and unable to finance such a war and undertaking.  Therefore, such a dilemma means that God is going to have to….”arise and judge the earth“ as stated in Psalm 82:8 in order to save Israel from Her enemies plot, which is prophesied in Psalm 83.  The time is NOW!   Israel, the US., Europe, and the world at large have RUN OUT OF TIME as the “Islamic giant“ has been preparing for this very hour and has now reared its ugly head in total confidence that it can wipe out the tiny nation of Israel.  But I have news for those of such arrogance!   The Islamic nations have a rude awakening coming as GOD IS ABOUT TO REAR HIS RIGHTEOUS HEADand WIPE THEM OUT instead!

 You can now see why Israel’s enemies WILL NOT SUCCEED in carrying out their plans which are mentioned in Psalm 83.  And it is because God is going to “remove His Church” at the time that this “evil plot” against Israel is being “contrived“, which is taking place right now as I write!  And God is going to “step in” and save Israel from an all out “missle war” which he cannot allow to take place as she would NOT survive as a tiny nation under such a horrific all out missile bombardment by her enemies.

 In conclusion something else must be considered.   We know that the Israeli military has a plan which they will initiate if they see that the nation is about to be destroyed.  It is called the “Sampson Option.”  If Israel sees that she is going to be wiped out,  then she will pull out her “nuclear arsenal” and take out herself along with all of her enemies.  THIS WILL NEVER HAPPEN as God will also NOT allow Israel to “foil” His prophetic plans for the nation either.

Therefore there is NO war taking place in Psalm 83 as the text reveals clearly, but instead we see that God Himself is at “war” with Israel’s enemies, foils their plans and pursues them!   What an incredible surprise is waiting for them!   We are at the END folks and theplot by the Arab nations which is mentioned in Psalm 83 will NEVER be successful nor get off the ground as God is going to interrupt their plans by His hand when He removes His Church and then brings confusion and “sudden destruction” upon the Arab nations who are plotting Israel’s destruction.

They ( The Arabs ) and the world won’t know what hit them between the eyes when it happens!

I personally believe that time is up this year folks! Iran and the Middle East cannot wait another year without having Apocalyptic repercussions.  Therefore, I believe, we have to go (in the rapture) this year by Spring as the Church is NOT here for the unfolding “seal judgments” which open up the “day of the Lord / tribulation hour!”

Even so Come Lord Jesus!

Nando

The reader will  enjoy the numbers that are presented in this post by Mathman that refers to the post by Kevin Heckle. I want to say to Kevin very good work of discovery and math permutations. Your knowledge of mathematics and astronomy is enviable. Are you a professional astronomer?

The numbers on the book of Daniel were given by God to Daniel. He put the heavens together with power and using mathematics, so these numbers were well known to him as was the fact that you were going to discover them and make the article.

We have been made to see these fantastically coordinated movements of the planets with a mathematical perfect formula that predicts the movement of these planets way into the future. His prophetic plan of history follows these precise mathematical equations and is for us humans to discover the mathematical patterns interconnecting the flow of history.

Nando

http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/jan2012/mathman17-2.htm

MathMan (7 Jan 2012)
“Kevin Heckle’s “Amazing Mathematical Proofs of God’s Design (What are the odds Mathman?)”“

Dear Kevin & Doves,

I have to say that I stand HUMBLED next to your awesome calculations.  Only the Lord could have given you the skill to come up with such ingenious and amazing ratios and combinations combining planetary alignments and mathematical formulas.  Seriously, that was UNBELIEVABLE!!

For those who are “mathphobes”, at the very least simply skim over this stuff – it is SIMPLY AMAZING:

http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/jan2012/kevinh16.htm

WHAT A LORD WE SERVE!!  Kevin, this is just another feather in God’s cap (as if He needed any more).  Is there ANYTHING He can’t do?  Of course not!!

Now, on to your question (which I am sure was tongue in cheek).  What are the odds?  Unfortunately, to calculate the odds, I need to be able to derive both a numerator and a denominator.  Let us assume the numerator is 1 (not hard).  But that where it gets difficult.  The denominator is simply incalculable.  Hence, I will have to conclude this by saying that the denominator = x, wherein x is infinity, so great is the Lord we serve.  Why?  Because only the infinite capabilities of our Lord could make all these things balance out so beautifully and exquisitely.

Thanks again for blessing us with this study.  It was A LOT of fun to read!!

 

YbiC, MathMan

Nando

Dec 29, 2011 The Seven Year Tribulation in the Book of Daniel and in Revelation

There are two prophets that were given a vision of the end times from which we can discern the times involved. One book is in the Old Testament the other is the last book of the New Testament.

I will start with what the Bible says in Daniel from the NIV Bible

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Daniel+9&version=NIV

27 He will confirm a covenant with many for one ‘seven.’[h] In the middle of the ‘seven’[i] he will put an end to sacrifice and offering. And at the temple[j] he will set up an abomination that causes desolation, until the end that is decreed is poured out on him.[k]”[l]

It is clear from this verse that the covenant is with many people but in the context of chapter 9 the seventy weeks it has to be with the people of the promise which is Israel and it could include other non covenant people also. The next statement divides the seven weeks in two and at the end of the first 3 ½ years he sets up the abomination that causes desolation at the (in the wing of) temple.

At this point I want to introduce data of this Temple and my educated guess as a structural engineer with more than 40 years of design and construction experience in large building airport projects and also in major bridges for roads and rapid transit.

Concourse E at MIA took more than four years to design and about three plus years to construct. This building would be comparable in size to the Temple. I was involved in both parts. The Adrienne Arsht Center for the performing Arts of Miami Dade is another building that comes to mind that took more than four years to built and the same probably to design.

http://static.panoramio.com/photos/large/40682076.jpg

http://www.templeinstitute.org/

Please see the view of the Temple planned and this organization already has the drawings ready to start construction so the process is only for construction. The time frame for an accelerated pace could be around three years. If we start on the first week of 2012 it would be ready to offer sacrifices in Jan 2015, so with good timing the middle of the Tribulations can not be before the year 2015.

Now I will compare the seven of Daniel to Revelation as I see it written in scripture.

There are a total of seven seals, seven trumpets and seven vials of wrath for a total of 21 events. The 2520 days for the total has to include the 21 events, if God assigned equal time to each it would correspond to 120 days for each, but there is a clue about the time allotted for the first 1260 days and they occur up to the end of the two witnesses death at the 6th Trumpet judgment.

At this point the 7th angel sounds its trumpet and we see the famous woman clothed with the sun etc, when she gave birth she fled into the desert where she will be protected for 1260 days. If this is Israel which other scriptures say it is then this command to flee is when the abomination of desolation enters the Temple at the middle of the Tribulations which in my humble opinion has occurred after the two witnesses are killed.

Does this make sense? I believe that it does. I can not see the two witnesses giving testimony and functioning after the desecration of the Temple and all of Israel has gone to the desert.

Now there are other important factors to consider along with these facts that are in my opinion irreconcilable with a Tribulation that started in 2008.

The Psalm 83 war, The Ezekiel 38-39 war and other events that must take place also. The first four seals kill ¼th of humanity, and with this killing going on it would be difficult to built the Temple at the same time.

Although I can appreciate the effort and dedication of several doves to fit the middle of the Tribulation this coming year I think it is not possible at all physically.

My concluding thoughts are that the Tribulations have not started yet and that the numerical and astronomical signs that took us back from 2015 to 2008 where done by Christ to point to the Antichrist Mr. Obama for the Bride to watch and prepare herself and others for the time of destruction that is fast coming towards the whole world. This is the time that BO has used to prepare himself for the role that he will soon assume as the first seal is opened and he is given the crown to be a conqueror.

Nando

http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/dec2011/ronr1229.htm

http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/dec2011/mathman1229-1.htm

http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/dec2011/mathman1229-2.htm

Nando

If all of Math Man’s assumptions and calculations are correct then it means that we are well into the Tribulations. I have my objections that I expressed in an article yesterday about this timing. There are simply to many factors that must be fulfilled and that do not logically fit into those calculations.

Among the factors are the two witnesses and the 1/4 of humanity killed in the first four seals, plus all the earthquakes and disasters that happen in the seals. If each of the 7 seals, trumpets and cups of wrath were given equal time values the middle would be at the fourth trumpet, The witnesses are killed on the 6th trumpet after 1260 days of testimony. The sixth trumpet is close to the 4th but it implies that the two halves are about equal in the time allotted for each of the three seven’s of judgment.

We must look at the book of Revelation as well as the other books of the end time prophecies for timelines. Only the real timeline will work all the prophecies together in a perfect synchronicity of time and events.

Personally I believe it is all beyond the capabilities of any human to synchronize and take into account all that is pertinent and disregard all that is not.

Nevertheless your search is worthy of praise from us watchers and it confirms the unmistakable fact that Barack Hussein Obama is the Antichrist. This alone anchors our time to the period of the end times and the coming Rapture of the church.

Nando

http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/dec2011/mathman1223.htm

MathMan (23 Dec 2011)
“Why I agree that Ron Reese, Gerry AlmonWhy I agree that Ron Reese, Gerry Almond, MathMan and many others are COMPLETE & UTTER IDIOTS for believing that 2015 is the year of Christ’s return!!d, MathMan and many others are WRONG for believing that 2015 is the year of Christ’s return!!“

 

 Dear Doves,

 

Before I even begin, I need to do something EXTREMELY IMPORTANT.  I want to sincerely apologize to each and every one of you on my incredibly poor communication style in outlining why I feel so strongly that 2015 is the year of Christ’s return.

 

When I re-read my previous posts, I realized that I accidentally made it seem like I did not agree that the traditional view of Daniel’s 70^th Week made any sense.  However, NOTHING can be further from the truth!!  Indeed, I believe that the traditional view is, BY FAR, THE most logical of all of the theories, exceeding in logic each and every one of the alternative theories that allow for a Post-Rapture Tribulation Period of less than 7 years.

 

To help illustrate that I fully understand what the commonly accepted theory on Daniel’s 70^th Week is, please allow me to reiterate the important points, in layman’s terms, of what I consider to be the best theory of them all:

 

-    The 70^th Week will represent the end of the age of grace in order to finish off the age of law that had been suspended when Jesus was resurrected

 

-    The 70^th Week’s primary purpose is to finalize unfinished business between God & Israel by completing the six stated goals in Daniel 9

 

-    The 70^th Week is still to come in its entirety, with a full 7 year period being required to do so making an abundance of sense, including many “types” in the Bible that mirror it’s logic (such as the Jewish wedding process)

 

-    The 70^th Week will be kicked off by the Anti-Christ, still a peaceful diplomat at this point, brokering (confirming) a 7 year (a week) peace treaty (covenant) between Israel and the world (the many)

 

-    Israel will fall for the Anti-Christ’s intoxicating charms hook line and sinker, and in the middle of the 7 years, the Anti-Christ will betray them mercilessly and persecute them through out the earth

 

Do I like this theory on Daniel 9?  Absolutely, it simply makes sense.  On a scale of 1 to 10 in logic, I would rate this theory a solid 10, with the alternative theories allowing for a Post-Rapture Tribulation Period of less than 7 years (which I have found to be plausible, but not as satisfying) rated, IMO, essentially no higher than a six.  However, my problem is that I simply can’t help but continue to be STUPID on this issue!!  Yes, and I mean it when I say I am being stupid on this subject!!

 

Given this perspective, you may ask yourself, why would I feel this way and yet keep pushing 2015?  I continue because I strongly believe that God, the creator of the largest Super Nova AND the tiniest single cell organism, has told us in the Bible what to look for with respect to the EXACT timing of the second return of His Son.  Not only that, but I believe that Israel-related events as they have already unfolded (and continue to unfold) completely back me up on this, as ADMITTEDLY “stupid” as these alternative theories sound.

 

I REALLY don’t want to be different than any of you.  NOT AT ALL.  I REALLY do like the commonly accepted theory on Daniel 9 the best.  You will get no argument from me on this.  However, please, I ask you with all of my heart; please pray on what I am about to outline and AT LEAST come to an understanding of why I am being so incredibly stupid on this issue.  You don’t have to agree with me.  I just REALLY want you to understand why I would “put myself out there” for something stupid if I didn’t have a SOLID mathematical reason pushing me to do so.

 

BUT FIRST, A VERY IMPORTANT DISCLAIMER:  Please note that I am a firm and unwavering believer in the Pre-Trib Rapture.  However, I no longer believe that the Post-Rapture Tribulation Period will be seven years.  Indeed, it APPEARS mathematically certain that the Post-Rapture Tribulation Period will actually be less than four years (including the 42 month Great Tribulation).  However, I must clarify without a doubt that I do not believe the Church will see God’s wrath nor be persecuted by the Anti-Christ.  In contrast, both Pre-Wrath & Mid-Trib (which I have been accused of on occasion) believe the Church will have to endure these things to a certain extent.  I absolutely do not believe we will have to endure these things AT ALL.  Indeed, I firmly believe in the Great Hope, promised by Jesus, that we, who truly believe and are counted worthy, will escape ALL THESE THINGS.  The Lord said it, I believe Him and so should you!!

 

On that note, please allow me to begin:

 

FORMULA 1:  THE PARABLE OF THE FIG TREE (Maximum Life)

 

Matthew 24: 32-34:  “Now learn a parable of the fig tree; When his branch is yet tender, and putteth forth leaves, ye know that summer is nigh:  So likewise ye, when ye shall see all these things, know that it is near, even at the doors.  Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled.”

 

Fact 1:  Every time the Bible talks about the “fig tree”, God is always referring to Israel

 

Fact 2:  The very first time that Israel first began to form was when the First Zionist Congress met from August 29^th to August 31^st in the year 1897, establishing the need and desire to reestablish Israel

 

Fact 3:  The goal of the 70^th Week is to perform the following six steps:

 

Daniel 9: 24:  “Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city, to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy.”

 

Fact 4:  The last of the six steps mentioned is “To anoint the most Holy.”

 

Fact 5:  “(T)he most Holy” can be no one else but Jesus

 

Generally Accepted Theory 1 (GAT1):  The first four Jewish feasts were directly used for the timing of the original demise and resurrection of Jesus.  Specifically, Passover, Feast of Unleavened Bread, Feast of First Fruits and Pentecost.  As such, it has been highly anticipated that the last four Jewish feasts will be used for the timing of the demise of the Anti-Christ and the subsequent establishment of the rule of Jesus.  Specifically, the Feast of Trumpets, the Day of Atonement, the Feast of Tabernacles and, finally, Hanukkah.

 

Generally Accepted Theory 2 (GAT2):  Most agree that Jesus will return to earth on the Feast of Trumpets

 

Generally Accepted Theory 3 (GAT3):  Most agree that Jesus will end the Great Tribulation, by sending the AC and False Prophet to the Lake of Fire, on the Day of Atonement, wherein Jesus will first arrive for this battle with His Army on the Feast of Trumpets just 10 days prior to the Anti-Christ’s defeat (the 10 Days of Awe)

 

Generally Accepted Theory 4 (GAT4):  The last feast is Hanukkah and many agree that this will represent the anointing festival of Jesus, the last of the six steps.  In multiple locations in the Bible, God has outlined that He will allow the Anti-Christ to remain as the World Leader for precisely 1260 days (the Great Tribulation), leading up to his ultimate defeat on the Day of Atonement.  When you subtract 1260 days from the Day of Atonement and add in 1335 days, you land exactly on Hanukkah.  This is the way these feasts were designed and establishes once again the importance of Hanukkah in the fulfillment of the final step.  Indeed, it would be a great blessing to those who love Jesus and survive the Great Tribulation to see His anointing as outlined in Daniel 12:12:  “Blessed is he that waiteth, and cometh to the thousand three hundred and five and thirty days.”

 

Fact 6:  God outlined the maximum length of time for “a generation” as specifically referenced in the verses in Matthew 24 quoted above as follows:

 

Genesis 6: 3:  “And the LORD said, My spirit shall not always strive with man, for that he also is flesh: yet his days shall be an hundred and twenty years.”

 

In other words, a limit of 120 years.  To establish this as a logical fact, please note that this matches the actual maximum life of a man or woman of 120 years as illustrated in modern actuarial tables on life spans.

 

Matthew 24: 32-34:  “Now learn a parable of the fig tree; When his branch is yet tender, and putteth forth leaves, ye know that summer is nigh:  So likewise ye, when ye shall see all these things, know that it is near, even at the doors.  Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled.”

 

FORMULA 1:  Now, please allow me to restate Matthew 24: 32-34 in my personal words, using the Facts & GATs outlined above, to establish Formula 1:  “Keep all eyes on Israel & Jerusalem as Israel & Jerusalem are the key to all prophecy and its timing;  As such, when you see Israel & Jerusalem start to come back together as a nation:  You will know that we are moving towards the establishment of Jesus as King of all:  Indeed, the generation that sees this start to happen will also see the last step of Daniel 9 occur, the anointing of Jesus at Hanukkah.”

 

Input into formula using actual historical events:  August 29 – 31, 1897 plus 120 years x prophetic years of 360 days each, lands precisely on December 7 – 9, 2015.  December 7 – 9, 2015 is directly within the eight days of Hanukkah 2015.  Hanukkah is celebrated for precisely 8 days.  On the other hand, there are 365 days in a given year other than leap years.  Therefore the odds of these calculated dates landing on Hanukkah simply being random versus planned by God from the beginning of time is:

 

ODDS FROM FORMULA 1:  8 out of 365 (2%)

 

FORMULA 2:  THE JUBILEE RETURN OF THE APPLE OF GOD’S EYE

 

Formula 1 MAY have established 2015 as being God’s planned year for the return of His Son.  If this is true, we now need to see if there is a second witness (there will actually be four witnesses).  This will rely on a Jubilee period as established in the Bible (take special note of the underlined parts):

 

Leviticus 25: 8-10:  “And thou shalt number seven sabbaths of years unto thee, seven times seven years; and the space of the seven sabbaths of years shall be unto thee forty and nine years. Then shalt thou cause the trumpet of the jubilee to sound on the tenth day of the seventh month, in the day of atonement shall ye make the trumpet sound throughout all your land. And ye shall hallow the fiftieth year, and proclaim liberty throughout all the land unto all the inhabitants thereof: it shall be a jubilee unto you; and ye shall return every man unto his possession, and ye shall return every man unto his family.”

 

Personal Theory 1 (PT1):  No one, including me, knows when Jubilee Periods (49 years), consisting of 7 Sabbatical Periods (7 years each), begin and end in modern times.  However, given that Jerusalem is the apple of God’s eye and He wants it back, would it not make sense that He would have been keeping track of these important time periods all of these centuries?

 

Generally Accepted Theory 5 (GAT5):  As outlined in Formula 1, it is generally accepted that the Anti-Christ will be defeated on the Day of Atonement.  This would be the precise day that the Lord would reclaim Jerusalem for His own and would clearly be a Jubilee event (“ye shall return… possession”)

 

Personal Theory 2 (PT2):    ASSUMING the results of Formula 1 are accurate in establishing 2015 as the year of the return of Jesus, we would expect to see the Anti-Christ defeated on the Day of Atonement 2015, which is September 23, 2015, in turn representing the final Jubilee event on the Day of Atonement, a perfect match to the requirements outlined in Leviticus 25: 8-10!!

 

Formula 2:  For any Day of Atonement to be logical for a Jubilee event, the applicable Day of Atonement should see a turnover event when it comes to Jerusalem exactly one Jubilee period before this.

 

CALCULATIONS:  Seven times seven years is equal to 49 years, or one complete Jubilee cycle.  49 years multiplied by a 360 day prophetic year, when subtracted from the Day of Atonement 2015 of September 23, 2015 falls directly on June 7, 1967 to the day.  NOW WATCH THIS!!  June 7, 1967 is the EXACT day that Israel reclaimed Jerusalem in the 1967 Six-Day War!!!!  In the Jewish calendar, a day begins the evening before.  Therefore, there are only two days that this beginning could have occurred and this is one of them.  Assuming the event occurred (Jerusalem being recaptured by the Jews), which we know it did, we have to calculate the number of days it could have occurred.  This is easy.  All we have to determine is the number of days from August 29, 1897 to September 23, 2015 to determine the number of days that Jerusalem could have been reclaimed by Israel.  This amounts to 43,125 days in total.  As such, this amounts to the astronomical odds of this simply being random of:

 

ODDS FROM FORMULA 2:  2 out of 43,125 (0.005%)

 

FORMULA 3:  THE 7 IN THE 7 + 62 OF THE 69 WEEKS

 

Daniel 9: 25:  “Know therefore and understand, that from the going forth of the commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem unto the Messiah the Prince shall be seven weeks, and threescore and two weeks: the street shall be built again, and the wall, even in troublous times”

 

Personal Theory 3 (PT3):  There is controversy over the split between the 7 and the 62, which in turn adds to 69 weeks.  In the first arrival, Jesus made His triumphant return to Jerusalem precisely 69 weeks of 2520 days in each week from the first decree to rebuild Jerusalem.  Some have speculated that the first part, the seven weeks, represents a completely separate prophecy related to his second arrival for His triumphant return to Jerusalem.  If this is truly a separate prophecy, given that Jewish days begin the evening before, such decree would have had to happen on June 7, 1967 or the day after, for it to be another signpost pointing towards the Day of Atonement 2015.

 

Fact 7:  That is exactly what happened.  In the first arrival of Jesus, all it took was a leader with the appropriate authority to declare that Jerusalem be rebuilt to start the 69 week countdown to the first return.  In a similar manner, the PM of Israel made the EXACT same kind of decree the very next day after the retaking of Jerusalem, on June 8^th of 1967 to be precise!!  But it wasn’t all of Jerusalem that had to be rebuilt, just the Jewish Quarter, also known as Old Jerusalem.  Ironically, this is the exact same portion ordered to be rebuilt that was used to prophesize the first time Jesus returned.  In fact, Old Jerusalem was so completely and utterly destroyed in 1948 in the Arab Israel War that a Jordan leader gloated that no Jew would ever return to the Jewish Quarter.

 

Calculation of Odds:  When Old Jerusalem was retaken, the people of the Israel elite force would be understandably excited.  Therefore, I would anticipate that such an announcement to rebuild would be made within the first 120 days (4 months) or so after Jerusalem was retaken while they were still in joyous celebration.  This certainly doesn’t seem unreasonable.  Therefore, it seems reasonable to assign the following odds for this to occur on the same day or the next day (2 days total):

 

ODDS FROM FORMULA 3:  2 out of 120 (1.7%)

 

FORMULA 4:  THE PARABLE OF THE FIG TREE (Average Life)

 

While we used 120 years from the First Zionist Congress to first establish 2015, there is a commonly held belief that the actual formation of Israel was the event that started off the time limit.  The commonly held timeframe for an average life as per the Bible is outlined as follows:

 

Psalm 90:10:  “The days of our years are threescore years and ten; and if by reason of strength they be fourscore years, yet is their strength labour and sorrow; for it is soon cut off, and we fly away.”

 

Isaiah 23:15:  “And it shall come to pass in that day, that Tyre shall be forgotten seventy years, according to the days of one king: after the end of seventy years shall Tyre sing as an harlot.”

 

Personal Theory 4 (PT4):  Given the historic precedents of the use of 70 year periods by the Lord when dealing with Israel, along with confirmation of a lifetime being 70 years in the above two passage, it seemed logical to continue its use.  Taking this 70 years and multiplying it by the 360-day year results in 25,200 days, or around 69 years.

 

Fact 8:  The U.N. just published a table outlining that the current world wide average life span is around 69 years.

 

Fact 9:  Israel became recognized as a nation by UN Resolution 181 on November 29, 1947 despite massive outrage from Muslim communities around the world and their Arab neighbors

 

Calculation of Odds:  This means that there is another possible limit of all being fulfilled being 25,200 days from November 29, 1947, equal to November 26, 2016.  However, Hanukkah 2016 doesn’t start until December 24, 2016.  This means the last Hanukkah before this is Hanukkah 2015, which was already established in Formula 1.  Therefore, tthe odds of this limit making so much sense and being such a perfect fit is only 1 year out of the 118 years from 1897 to 2015, resulting in

 

ODDS FROM FORMULA 4:  1 out of 118 (0.8%)

 

To summarize the results of these four formulas pointing directly towards 2015 as being the return of Jesus:

 

Formula 1:  8 out of 365

Formula 2:  2 out of 43,125

Formula 3:  2 out of 120

Formula 4:  1 out of 118

 

Combined, this works out to (8 x 2 x 2 x 1) out of (365 x 43,125 x 120 x 118) or 32 out of 221,666,000,000 or 1 out of 6,927,100,000, rounded down to 1 out of 6.9 billion!

 

As such, the odds of September 23, 2015 RANDOMLY pointing to the end of the Great Tribulation is only 1 out of 6.9 billion.  Therefore, the chances of September 23, 2015, the Day of Atonement 2015, being the precise day planned by the Lord for the demise of the Anti-Christ and the end of the Great Tribulation are an overwhelming 6,899,999,999 out of 6.9 billion!!

 

Oh please, I pray you see why I am being such a COMPLETE IDIOT on this issue!!  This is why I am in such a dilemma, especially given that I truly love the traditional interpretation of what the 70^th Week is SUPPOSED to look like MUCH MORE.  However, from the above calculations, it is mathematically conclusive that the Lord Himself is now allowing us to see that September 23, 2015, the Feast of Atonement, is the logical end date for the Anti-Christ, despite the fact it doesn’t fit the way we wanted or expected it to.

 

Daniel was told by the Angel Gabriel that many things would not be revealed until “the time of the end”.  We are now there. 1260 days prior to September 23, 2015 lands on April 11, 2012.  This, therefore, means that April 11, 2012 will be the beginning of the 1260-day Great Tribulation.  While there is an EXTREMELY SMALL chance that we may be wrong about this, the odds are astronomically stacked in favor of this timeline.

 

However, and more importantly to His Church, this means we now have but a few weeks left before we HAVE to be Raptured!!  While I hope the Rapture will happen before the end of today, it is all but mathematically certain that the Rapture HAS to occur by April 11, 2012 as the Church will NOT be here for the Great Tribulation, or during any end-time tribulation for that matter.  Unfortunately for those taught to believe otherwise, there is absolutely not enough time for the commonly accepted seven year Post-Rapture Tribulation Period to transpire.

 

Now just imagine if I factored in the Tetrad Lunar Eclipses of 2014 / 2015, along with the many other signs we know about, such as the 777.68 DOW index point drop (the greatest in history) on the Feast of Trumpets 2008 and the rise of the most Anti-Semitic powerful leader in history (look at his actions NOT his words).  Factoring this in, along with the many other signs, would result in the 6,899,999,999 out of 6.9 billion becoming even more amazing.  Again, please pray on it with an open mind and an open heart!!  Even someone without any math background will see how compelling the above argument is in favor of the Day of Atonement 2015 being the end date for the Antichrist!!  HOWEVER, BE JOYFUL – this is AWESOME news!!

In conclusion, I only look for approval from my Lord & Savior.  Nonetheless, I am only human and like it when others accept what I have to say (I would be lying if I said otherwise).  As such, it is my deep hope that you will read the above and at least understand WHY I am choosing to be such a COMPLETE IDIOT as to the feeling that I have of HAVING to question the traditional theory on what the 70^th Week is supposed to look like.  Quite simply, the math requires it.  I didn’t make the news, I am merely reporting it.

 

To God be ALL the glory!!!  He is at the door!!  Maranatha!!

 

YbiC, MathMan

Nando

The link below takes you to a very important video about two very important subjects the Antichrist is he a Muslim/? and Islam will be destroyed totally at the beginning of the Apocalypse.

Nando

Josh Brunken (VIDEO) Video: The Rise of the Antichrist, His Wars, and His Ultimate Destruction by God (TV program with Brannon Howse and Jimmy DeYoung, Interview Clip #4)

Nando

The post of today by Daniel Matson is part II of another article he posted before.

The article brings a different thought and interpretation to the 70th week prophecy of Daniel and what starts the Tribulation and who signs or makes the covenant with many.

In his views and that of many the Rapture must occur first, then the Psalm 83 and Ezekiel 38-39 together and then the start of the Tribulations and the 70 th week of Daniel.

One problem that I have with this view is that I saw the second seal of Revelation as these two prophets wars starting everything and for that to happen the Tribulations must already be in place with the Antichrist given the crown to conquer in seal 1.

We are very close to all these prophecies fulfillment and the picture is not yet clear to be able to make a timeline chronology of events.

Nevertheless this article gives a better understanding of what is a very difficult subject to uncover.

Thank you for your article,

Nando

http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/nov2011/danielm1126.htm

Daniel Matson (26 Nov 2011)
“The 70 Weeks – What starts the 70th?”

The 70 Weeks – What starts the 70th?

Daniel Matson – November 23, 2011

This is part two of the 70th Week article first posted November 8, 2011 — Daniel’s 70 Weeks – Rightly Dividing. This article explores an option concerning the 70th Week that does not fall into the two traditional camps of Futurism and Preterism.

This solution may be one of the reasons why both sides can never reconcile an interpretation on this passage.

And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.

Daniel 9:27 KJV

And he will make a firm covenant with the many for one week, but in the middle of the week he will put a stop to sacrifice and grain offering; and on the wing of abominations will come one who makes desolate, even until a complete destruction, one that is decreed, is poured out on the one who makes desolate.

Daniel 9:27 NASB

The next event on the horizon in the 70 Weeks prophecy is the confirmation of a covenant with the many, which is Israel. Those who  believe that the 70th Week has been fulfilled, have long held that the “he” of Daniel 9:27 was Christ himself. They believe his public ministry of three and a half years fulfilled the first half of the week with his crucifixion ceasing the daily sacrifices. Though the time element may fit three and a half years, but as we have seen, the chronological sequence does not. The 69th Week must conclude just before Christ is “cut off” and not at the start of His public ministry.

To counter this view, Futurists have held that the “he” of Daniel 9:27 is the Antichrist.  Since the Antichrist has not come, it keeps the 70th Week in the future. This is the opposite of the Preterist view.  However, the chronology alone should keep this passage future. So if the “he” were Christ, then it still refers to the future. Whoever the “he” is, it should not impact the chronological sequence of Messiah first being crucified, then the destruction of Jerusalem, and then later the 70th Week can begin.

Most who have held to the futuristic view of this verse believe that the “he” is the future prince of the people (Romans) who destroyed the Temple. The use of “prince” in verse 26 is the nearest antecedent. Therefore, it is commonly held that the Antichrist makes or enforces a treaty for seven years with the Jews. It is then deducted that this treaty probably allows for the Jews to rebuild their Temple. The Antichrist then halts the Temple sacrifices mid-week and sets up the Abomination of Desolation to demand worship of himself as god. At the conclusion, Jesus rescues Israel and believers from the Antichrist.

However, what about the other option? It is possible that the “he” refers back to the main subject in verse 26, which is the Messiah himself. The nearest antecedent rule has its exceptions, if the context warrants it. However, by making Christ the “he” in Daniel 9:27, Christ would then be the confirmer of the covenant that continues seven years.  In light of Ezekiel 39:7-10, it would indeed seem to make more sense that Christ is the confirmer of the covenant with His people to restart the 70 weeks, as He saves Israel from this invasion found in Ezekiel.  Therefore, the burning of the weapons for seven years would be the parallel to the time of the 70th Week.

However, there is a problem with this view because then Christ would be the same “he” that stops the sacrifices in the middle of the seven years. Unless this shows His sovereign control, it is otherwise apparent that the Antichrist is the one who ceases the sacrifices and sets up the Abomination (Daniel 8:11, 12:11, Matthew 24:15, Mark 13:14) . However, the “one who causes desolation” is a separate subject than the “he” in the same verse. Some versions such as the NKJV and NASB show this distinction. In any regard there are multiple issues to any of the solutions. The thing to consider is that the original Hebrew does not contain the “he”. These are supplied in the English translations. It is interesting that the Septuagint Interlinear rendering does not show an attachment with a personality.  Here is its translation:

And one week shall establish the covenant with many: and in the midst of the week my sacrifice and drink-offering shall be taken away: and on the temple shall be the abomination of desolations; and at the end of time an end shall be put to the desolation. 

–Daniel 9:27  LXX Interlinear Translation,  Samuel Bagster and Sons, London, 1792

Therefore, with this translation, one is to look for the confirmation of Israel’s covenant for seven years and then the sacrifices are halted in what has to be a rebuilt temple in the middle of the seven years. Then it all comes to an end at the end of the seven years. There is then no attempt to identify any personality that may not be warranted in the first place. If we then let it mean only what it says, it then stands that other related biblical passages will shed light and provide the necessary understanding of this verse. The big issue is that the view the Antichrist enforces some covenant with Israel for seven years may simply have evaporated with this understanding.  Without that as an eschatological foundation, there are obvious ramifications, but it seems to solve many complications and problems.

It has always seemed strange that the 70th Week supposedly begins with the Antichrist confirming some covenant with Israel that has already been in place.  Why would he set up a covenant for seven years? But more importantly, why would Israel make a deal with the Antichrist at the relative same time as their awakening moment when God delivers them from the invading armies found in Ezekiel? Of course, that is if Ezekiel’s War commences the seven years. But it would seem to be so. It would also seem problematic to have the Antichrist confirming or strengthening God’s covenant with His people and how would that even be possible?

What it then comes down to is laying out the order of end time events in the Scriptural and logical sequence to ensure that it all fits together. At first there will be a summary of what the flow of events may be with this understanding, which then will be followed by the Scriptural references that seem to back it. Of course, new views must be handled with caution, but here we go.
The first event would be the Rapture/removal of the Church to end this parenthetical age. The second item that quickly happens is that the Islamic Confederacy found in Ezekiel and Psalm 83 sees the disappearance of the friends of Israel (Church) as an opportunity to destroy Israel. This then backfires as God delivers Israel and thereby wakes them up to realize why they had been scattered among the nations during the fullness of the Gentiles. This moment of deliverance is the confirmation or strengthening of God’s Covenant with Israel (the many) with seven more years until Messiah returns to establish the Kingdom. Israel then cleanses her land from the dead armies and then rebuilds the Temple, since the great earthquake of the invasion leveled all buildings. The world at this time will be in chaos after the Rapture and the removal of what was left of the former world powers (Russia, USA). Out of these ashes will arise the Ten Toes of Daniel, which are ten kingdoms from the former region of the Roman Empire. As depicted consistently by Daniel’s statue, five kings should be from the east and five kings from the west as fitting to the manner in which the empire was divided. It is not until after the establishment of the ten kings that the Antichrist can then come to power. The Antichrist then comes to full power in the middle of the seven years with his taking of Israel and his indwelling by Satan himself. In three and a half years, the Antichrist comes to his end with Jesus the Messiah’s return with his armies. Jesus then fulfills the 70 weeks prophecy and his kingdom then continues for 1,000 years.
The first event then has to be the Rapture of the Church. We are not destined for God’s wrath (1 Thessalonians 1:10, 5:9) and it is a trial for those who will remain on the earth (Revelation 3:10). Jesus is coming again to take us into the “rooms” for our safety as the wrath then comes (John 14:1-3, Psalm 27:5, Isaiah 26:19-21, 1 Thessalonians 4:15-17).  The Rapture then completes the fullness of the Gentiles and then God will then once again work with Israel (Acts 15:13-18, Acts 28:25-29, Isaiah 6:9-12, Romans 11:25). Understanding the proper relationship of the Church to Israel is critical. The Church has been inserted between the 69th and 70th Weeks of Daniel. The Acts 15 passage makes it abundantly clear that this is indeed so:

And after they had held their peace, James answered, saying, “Men and brethren, hearken unto me: Simeon hath declared how God at the first did visit the Gentiles, to take out of them a people for his name. And to this agree the words of the prophets; as it is written, ‘After this I will return, and will build again the tabernacle of David, which is fallen down; and I will build again the ruins thereof, and I will set it up: that the residue of men might seek after the Lord, and all the Gentiles, upon whom my name is called, saith the Lord, who doeth all these things.’”  

Acts 15:13-17

With the Church then departed and protected in “her rooms”, the judgment then comes. It is then this period of a gap between the Rapture and the 70th Week that is crucial, but often difficult to understand. Most people believe the gap of time is non-existent since they erroneously believe the Rapture starts the Goth Week. Those who know the difference between the Rapture and the confirmation of a covenant, believe the gap is a relatively short time, but some, such as Arnold Fruchtenbaum, put the gap at three and a half years minimum. His theory is that the burning of the weapons for seven years needs to  be completed by the mid-point of the 70th Week since Israel flees to the wilderness at that time. The other benefit of holding to Fruchtenbaum’s view is that it gives proper time for the events to develop. However, as suggested in the summary of events, with the Antichrist not being the one who initiates the 70th Week, there will be ample political time for him to rise politically. After the Rapture, the issue is what exactly  is, and when is, the invasion into Israel.

This invasion into Israel after the Rapture is one of opportunity. As is easily demonstrated, the Islamic world has unsuccessfully tried but continues to plot the destruction of Israel. The amount of weaponry now stockpiled is staggering. All is left is for Iran to get “the bomb”. In Ezekiel’s War, the key to the timing is that this war comes after Israel has become a nation again and is dwelling confidently in the Land (Ezekiel 38:14). This is all true today (some say the word for “confidently’ means “peace”, but at what level of peace is enough? Until the surrounding Islamic armies are destroyed, it will remain the status quo.) We also know from Ezekiel that the ending of this war shows that God is once again working with Israel (Ezekiel 39:22) . In Micah 7, an invasion from the north is described as coming after the summer harvest and after the righteous have departed the land (Rapture). Micah then continues that now is Israel’s time of perplexity. Likewise, in Psalm 83, the invaders are said to have plotted against Israel and the “hidden ones”. Based on Psalm 27:5, Isaiah 26:19-21, Zephaniah 2:3, and John 14:1-3, “the hidden ones” are those who are protected by what is now known as the Rapture of the Church.
For in the time of trouble He shall hide me in His pavilion; In the secret place of His tabernacle He shall hide me; He shall set me high upon a rock.

Psalm 27:5

Your dead shall live; Together with my dead body they shall arise. Awake and sing, you who dwell in dust; For your dew is like the dew of herbs, And the earth shall cast out the dead. Come, my people, enter your chambers, And shut your doors behind you; Hide yourself, as it were, for a little moment, Until the indignation is past. For behold, the LORD comes out of His place To punish the inhabitants of the earth for their iniquity; The earth will also disclose her blood, And will no more cover her slain.

Isaiah 26:19-21

Seek the LORD, all you meek of the earth, Who have upheld His justice. Seek righteousness, seek humility. It may be that you will be hidden In the day of the LORD’s anger.

Zephaniah 2:3

Keep not thou silence, O God: hold not thy peace, and be not still, O God. For, lo, thine enemies make a tumult: and they that hate thee have lifted up the head. They have taken crafty counsel against thy people, and consulted against thy hidden ones. They have said, Come, and let us cut them off from being a nation; that the name of Israel may be no more in remembrance. For they have consulted together with one consent: they are confederate against thee.

Psalm 83:1-5

Therefore, Psalm 83 and the Ezekiel War are at the same time due to the fact that they occur at this transitional time from the Church after it has departed and back to Israel being proved as God’s people and land. They are thus the same war even though the list of invaders in each passage is different. Psalm 83 describes those people close to Israel where Ezekiel mentions those at a distance (and Ezekiel even says his list is partial. Ezekiel 38:9).

Now there are those who see two separate wars, such as a Psalm 83 war prior to the war found in Ezekiel. However, as we have seen, the Psalm 83 war occurs after the removal of the “hidden ones” or known as the Rapture. Ezekiel’s War is also at the time Israel is renewed. The problem with creating separate wars here is that Ezekiel speaks that the war was foretold by other prophets (Ezekiel 38:17), and therefore, similar pieces found in the Old Testament must go together, otherwise Ezekiel is left in contradiction.  The passages that do fit, concern a war to rid the Middle East of Israel after they have been gathered in unbelief and just before God reveals himself (Ezekiel 38:16) through his deliverance of Israel, which is at the start of the 70th Week. We know that God saving Israel in Ezekiel is the first momentous occasion of God delivering Israel after their return to the land, but for Psalm 83 to be separate and prior to this war would mean that another deliverance would have to occur which would violate the significance of Ezekiel’s War. It must then be one war that they all lie in wait for the right moment to finish the job once the departure of the Church and friend of Israel has occurred.

Therefore, we have the Rapture, then the invasion, and the ending of the invasion by God to confirm His covenant with Israel. The confirmation of a covenant cannot also be with the Antichrist since the ten kingdoms can only be established after the Islamic Invasion, since their territories overlap. With a likely two month gap between a Feast of Trumpets Rapture and a 70th Week start day (2,520 days ahead of the Day of Atonement Second Coming) it will be hard pressed to fulfill all of these things within two months. It is more likely enough time to start and settle the war of Ezekiel.

As one analyzes the idea that the Antichrist starts the 70th Week, its only basis is found in the understanding of Daniel 9:27 that the “he” is the Antichrist. When one considers Paul’s scenario in 2 Thessalonians 2, the moment of confirmation of the Antichrist is him declaring himself to be God in the Temple–the Abomination of Desolation. This is the same message of Christ in the Olivet Discourse. The key event is the Antichrist in the middle of the 70th Week, with no seeming appropriate mention of a covenant with the Antichrist to start the seven years, but one would think it should be there, if that were the case. It is probably because that is what does not happen. What  happens is that Israel is delivered from the invasion and then begins her purpose again among the nations. The Antichrist then comes later and becomes known in the middle of the seven years through the Abomination of Desolation.  And this would be why Paul and Jesus stress the mid-point and not a beginning that has been commonly misunderstood. If Israel was to be deceived by the Antichrist from the beginning, would it not stand that there would be some level of concern found in other Scriptures? But they are not found.

This then changes the dynamic in yet another way that is consistent with Israel. At the start of the seven years, Israel is handed a victory by God, and the nation recognizes that reality. Instead of switching gears immediately to follow the Antichrist, the nation cleanses the land after the destruction and rebuilds her Temple under noble aspirations. Israel at this time has many that become saved and later the Antichrist forces his way into the Temple halfway through the 70th Week, just like Antiochus Epiphanes did as foreshadowed in Daniel 11. This means that the Antichrist’s power over Israel does not have to be in full swing until the middle of the Week. Many Jews then will not be deluded and many will heed Jesus’ warning to flee to the wilderness. Therefore, the dynamic is of Israel being targeted by the Antichrist, not one of Israel being complicit with him. This seems to be a more consistent view of the Tribulation. But like the days of Antiochus Epiphanes, there will by those who once conquered, will betray their people to save themselves.

If this view is correct, then the first half of the 70th Week is one of power restructuring. After the end of Ezekiel’s War, it will then give the needed time for the peoples of the former Roman Empire to regroup and establish the terrible Beast Empire, as seen by Daniel (Daniel 7:7-8). This Empire will rule the world before the Antichrist takes the reigns. Even for this to happen within three and a half years is quick for such a global shift after war and the inevitable economic meltdown. Though anything might be possible, it seems extreme to try and fit all of this into two months.

Of course, this view will receive criticism and maybe there is some aspect that was overlooked or could even be defended better. But it seems clear that while the Futurists have the chronology correct, the Preterists may be correct in understanding  that the covenant with many must refer back to the Abrahamic Land Covenant. As it stands, the two views are both incorrect with the Preterist position doing the most damage to the chronology of the 70th Week. But any view that does not measure up poses difficulties. The Preterist must butcher the chronology and flow to wedge it into the past and thereby the view fails altogether, as it must alter the literalness of the text into some allegory. The futurist gets the chronology mostly correct, but reducing the “covenant with many” to being with the Antichrist also alters the chronology prematurely in the flow of end time events. The Antichrist gains his power with the aid of Satan in the middle of the 70th Week. His terrible reign covers the last half of the 70th Week and is known as the Great Tribulation. This is why all the warnings by Jesus and the Prophets point to the Abomination that causes Desolation, because it is the start point concerning the Antichrist.

The start of the 70th Week is then better defended as starting with God strengthening His covenant with Israel after the removal of the grafted in vine of the Gentiles, known as the Church. The act of God delivering Israel from the surrounding nations would be such a strengthening. Thus the seven year clock begins with disaster coming in the middle of those seven years. But when that time runs out, God’s plan of salvation will become realized as the Messiah returns to rule the nations and restore the earth.

Nando

Thanks to Gerry Almond for these further interpretations on fivedoves.

Nando

http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/nov2011/gerrya112.htm

Gerry Almond (2 Nov 2011)
“To:  Nando: Your post of 11/1 regarding Noah’s Tabernacles time.“

I am attaching an article that I have already made because it ties directly in with Nando’s 11/1/11 post setting the time of Noah’s Feast of Tabernacle.  I tied the last day of Tabernacles to 11/11/11 in my post because of the DELAY time found in Daniel chapter 10.  Maybe the 21 days delay is necessary for this very reason….to tie current Tabernacles last day to 11/11/11 by 21 days.

YBIC

Gerry Almond

To:  All Watchers.  I think our home-going will be 11/11/11.  Here’s why.

I hope I don’t sound like a broken record to you all about the Daniel experience of 21 days delay in the release of the captives from Babylon, but please read on.  I am absolutely convinced that the 21 days DELAY of Daniel chapter 10 will be repeated in this matter of our Lord’s appearing to take us in the rapture.  The picture in type is just too much to ignore, and a study of it might convince you of it.

I will here repeat what I have written about several times already.  When the Babylonian captivity should have ended, it did’nt.  This realization upset the prophet Daniel, who had been in captivity all of his adult life.  True, he was a very high ranking individual in the Babylonian Empire, but nevertheless, he wanted the freedom of his people, the Jews.  Having understood from the prophecies of Jeremiah (Jer 29:10) that the captivity was to be 70 years in length, he knew that on his birthday when he reached 87 years of age, the time would be up.  (He was taken at age 17 on his birthday).  And, he did’nt  want the Jews to remain captives even one day past the prophesied number!  So, did he think God was a liar, or that God was not attentive?  No, but, what did he do?  He went to prayer asking God about this, because he knew that his God was very precise in all of His doings.

A few friends went with him and they were by the big river.  They FASTED AND PRAYED for three full weeks, i. e. 21 days.  (See Susan and Sabrina’s letter of 10/21 posted on fivedoves.com, which shows God calling for us to fast).  Daniel’s prayer was not answered immediately, not until the 21 DAYS WERE FULLY COME!  (Perhaps we should fast and pray ourselves for 21 days now, just as Daniel did?)  Anyway, on the 22nd day, messengers came to him (Dn 10:5).  He had a vision, but his friends did not see the vision because a great earthquake came and they fled. (vs. 7)  Daniel “died”, that is, “there remained NO strength in me; for my comeliness was turned in me into corruption, and I retained no strength”. (vs. 7).

It is well known in medical circles that hearing is the last sense to fade at death.  Daniel experienced the hearing of a voice even though he was in a “deep sleep” with his face on the ground.  Dead or at least near dead? (vs. 9)

A hand touched him and he was set up on his hands and knees.  A messenger said to him, “O Daniel, a man greatly beloved, understand the words that I speak to thee, and stand upright; for unto thee am I now sent” (vs. 10, 11).  Daniel then stood up trembling.

“Fear not Daniel; for from the first day that thou didst set thine heart to understand, and to chasten thyself before thy God, thy words were heard”  ( That was 21 full days earlier).  “And I am come for thy words.”  (vs. 12)

“But the prince of the kingdom of Persia withstood me one and twenty days (21 days); but, lo, Michael, one of the chief princes, came to help me; and I remained there with the kings of Persia”.  (vs. 13).

It is apparent from this verse that a DELAY of 21 days occurred and the captivity of Daniel’s people went on that length of time.  Also, the messenger arrived on day 22.  This may be the numbers 21/22 that some have been addressing here on Five Doves.  I have seen it on other sites as well.

“Now, I am come to make thee understand what shall befall thy people IN THE LATTER DAYS; for yet the vision is for many days”  (vs. 14).

Christians, the latter days are here RIGHT NOW!!!  Israel is back in the land, Jerusalem is theirs, and God is watching the evil right now encircling His holy land that is seeking to stamp out His chosen people from the face of the earth and divide up HIS chosen land for gain.

The picture becomes more and more like the resurrection/rapture in Daniel 10.  “And when he had spoken such words to me, I set my face toward the ground, and I became dumb (couldn’t speak).  And, behold, one like the similitude of the sons of men touched my lips; then I opened my mouth and spoke, and said unto him who stood before me, O my lord, by the vision my sorrows have turned upon me, and I have retained no strength”.  (vs. 16).  Daniel asked in his mind, I suppose, how he could speak without strength or breath?  HE WAS DEAD, it appears.

Is this an Old Testament picture of the resurrection of the dead and then the rapture of the living, both in the vision of Daniel and using him as both dead and alive?  I do not know, but I do think that a key thing in this experience for us is the delay of 21 days until day 22, when we will surely find out.

Having said that, I think that we need to look at the DELAY this way:

If the Feast of Tabernacles, last day was not the time of our departure, as it certainly looked to many, including myself, then how about simply waiting 21 days more?  Instead of the 21 days delay counting from RHH, maybe it started with the last or 8th day of Tabernacles?  That would be 21 days plus 21 days more totally 42.  That, I understand is, in gematria, the number for His coming.  If so, this means that on the last day of Tabernacles, our Lord began His journey to come for us, and has been delayed by the WAR IN HEAVEN, at which time Satan is going to be cast out.

RHH         ATONEMENT       TABERNACLES

9/29/30………10/8/9…………10/13/14 – 20/21+1………….+21 days = 11/11/11.

The time line above shows the inclusion of the 8th day of Tabernacles, which totals to 22 days in the entire three feast count.

God leaves no loose ends.  He is so precise that it is a wonderment to us all when the prophecies are so accurately fulfilled.  Sometimes, the Holy Spirit enlightens our minds to understand some of the deep things of God, but only when the time is right.  Like now.  Satan MUST be cast out of heaven on 11/11/11.  Here is why.  The picture in the constellation Virgo verifies that it is so.  Revelation 12 says that he, Satan, seeks to devour the newborn child just as soon as it is born.  He “appears” as a dragon pulling 1/3 of the angels with him because he is cast out of heaven.  But, the newborn child IS CAUGHT UP (THAT IS THE RAPTURE) to God and to His throne.  This removes the child from Satan’s wrath.  The child is Jesus Christ, the head and we are the body, the true Church.  See?  Revelation 12 tells us the time of the rapture, that is when Satan is cast out, and the Virgo picture tells us when Satan is cast out as his star exits Virgo on 11/11/11.  Now we know why we have seen 11’s so much, it seems.

Brother Ron Reese of thefinal7yearsareherenow.com read this paper.  He wrote saying that there are two other very important and ominous reasons for 11/11/11 being the time.  “One reason is that the New World Order elite always use Satanic numbers when major events are on their schedule”.  He listed 9-11-01, the twin towers, 3-11-11, the Japan earthquake (HAARP caused?) 4-11-12, the last day of the first ½ of the tribulation and the rise of antichrist,  and 11-11-11, possibly the most significant number of all.

The second “ominous” reason is that October 26th will be the new moon.  This means that 11-11-11 will the 17th day of the 2nd month on the Jewish calendar.  This is the day that Noah and those who were ready entered the ark.”  This is especially important to me, personally, as I have long thought that the counts of days within the ark over a 1 solar year period has great meaning.

If this 11-11-11 date for rapture/sudden destruction is accurate, as I think it is, then Jesus Christ began His journey to rapture us 10/21/22 and will arrive 11/11/11.  This will be day 21 + 1.  Just as in the vision of Daniel 10.  And look, Michael the archangel fought the war in heaven in the Daniel vision, and in Rev. 12: 7, it is Michael, who again fights the war in heaven.  The result of the 21 days of war in heaven is the casting out of the dragon on 11/11/11.  And what greater destruction could there be than for Satan and 1/3rd of the heavenly host to be sent to earth??  Again, Virgo verifies this.  We have proof positive, I think, that 11/11/11 is the correct day.  All I can say is WOW!!!!!!!!!!! .

The times right now are pregnant with possibilities.  It is possible that Harold Camping’s second prediction was accurate, except for the 21 days DELAY.  Work, for the night is coming.  Keep looking up, our redemption certainly surely draws nigh.

ALL GLORY TO GOD, THE SON, AND THE HOLY SPIRIT FOREVER.

YBIC             Gerry almond

Nando

This study by Jean Stepanosky is about the feast of Yom Kippur as related to Rosh Hashnna and the Rapture.

My opinion on this study is that if Jesus second coming is to be on the feast of Yom Kippur of 2018 then the beginning of  the Apocalypse is on the same date in 2011 and the Rapture is to be in or before that date.

The beginning of the seven year Tribulation is also related to the treaty or covenant the Antichrist (Barack Hussein Obama) makes with Israel and many plus the appearance of the two witnesses on that date.

It is obvious that if we see these two things happen that we know that we are in the Tribulation. Consequently the Rapture should happen before.

The reader must understand that The prophecies of the Bible are placed with dates that are very specific in their fulfillment and once they happen we can see the specificity of the date, but before it happens it is not as easily discernible. the obvious case in point is Daniels prophecy of the seventy weeks of years that pedicted the first coming of Jesus exactly to the date, but was not discerned by the Jewish priests or the Nation of Israel when it happened.

As such it is with the second coming and the prophecy of Matthew 24: 32-35. In this case the generation is the time specific event, but a generations age could be fulfilled in various amount of years, from a minimum of 40 years to a maximum of 120 years with the most possible dates being 40 or 70 years from the fig tree beginning to put forth leaves (Israel birth May 14, 1948).

So there you have it in a nut shell, the maximum span for the starting of the Tribulations is passed once the fall feast of the year 2011 are passed.

Nando

http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/oct2011/jeans104.htm

Jean Stepnoski (4 Oct 2011)
“Two Studies About Yom Kippur“

Dear Doves,
There are two studies about Yom Kippur which I will be reading and studying this week. According to the Hillel Calendar, Yom Kippur will be 10-7 to 8. According to the sighting of the moon from Israel on 9-29, that would place Yom Kippur one day later, from 10-8 to 9.
One of these studies is available at www.mayimhayim.org/Festivals/Feast8.htm which is a book excerpt from a book by Eddie Chumney. It is ten pages and gives a fine overview of the importance of Yom Kippur. The other is a posting from five doves on 10-6-2005. It is by Arlene at archives at the following website and is  8 pages at www.his-forever.com/yom_kippur_rapture.htm. One of the things she notes is the need to complete 40 days of repentance and teshuvah until Yom Kippur rather than after the 30 days of Elul at Rosh Hashanah (The Feast of Trumpets) 10 days earlier. The number 40 is The Scriptures is about a period of preparation and/or repentance. The life of Moses of 120 years was in three 40 year periods. There were 40 years in the wilderness and 40 years between the Ascension and the destruction of Jerusalem in 70 AD. The Master had 40 days of preparation before His public ministry began. There were 40 days and nights of rain in the times of Noah. Ninevah was given 40 days to repent after the preaching of Jonah. The sign of Jonah was 3 days or 40 days. There were 40 days from The Feast of First Fruits until Christ’s Ascension. The concept of 40 is very significant in The Scriptures. It can be argued that the most important 40 day period in The Scriptural Year, begun at Nisan 1, would be from Elul 1 to Tishri 10 (Yom Kippur).
As I have noted in posts in recent years at Doves, Rosh Hashanah is not complete until Yom Kippur. They are connected to each other in a process of 10 days and days 30 to 40 and 40 days. As Arlene noted, Yom Kippur is THE DAY of REPENTANCE for THE REDEEMED! What are most of the houses of faith, the congregations, told to do in The Book Of Revelation? They are commanded by Christ to repent. REPENT! Eddie Chumney notices that one of the phrases for Yom Kippur is “THE DAY.” This is the phrase used about the times of Noah or Lot by Messiah/Christ! “They knew not until the day that Noah entered the ark.” Paul noted that some would “see the day approaching” and we have that phrase again of “the day.” The Scriptures note that “the day” is about Yom Kippur. Perhaps The Master using the phrase “the day” would have been understood by those of His times as relating to Yom Kippur, but not recognized by people in our times? First was “the day” in the times of the family Noah, then “the day” in the times of the family Lot, then “the day” for the Repentant and Redeemed of Messiah/Christ? Is Yom Kippur the link and THE DAY for us?
I hope many Doves will be blessed in reading these two studies. For Jews and Gentiles alike, Yom Kippur is well worth our understanding. If it is “THE DAY” linked to The Blessed Hope, the apostacia ( the departure) then it is ALL IMPORTANT! Come quickly, Lord… May we be WATCHING!

With Love and Shalom,
Jean

Nando