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Dec 20, 2014 Shemitah 2014-2015 Rapture, Yom Kippur Apocalypse and second coming 7 years after

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It is no coincidence that in the last few years so much information have been discovered about the timeline that God is on. The discovery of the blood red moons by Mark Biltz and the discovery of the effects of the Shemitah and the Jubilee years done by Messianic Rabbi Jonathan Cahn have put into perspective the nearness of the hour we live in to the Rapture of the Church, the start of the seven year tribulation and the second coming of Jesus.

Randy in his post of Dec 14, 2014 about the post of Sherry Vance has pointed us to a superbly written dissertation of end times events.

After reading Sherry Vance article I find myself in concurrence 100 % with her well orchestrated end time scenario and the scriptures that back up her conclusions.

The picture has been coming into focus as more discoveries and internet communication join us to bring quickly all these analysis and thoughts, based on prophetic scripture, together.

Thanks Randy for an article that I had missed and that is of the utmost importance.


Randy (14 Dec 2014)
“Great Post by Sherry Vance…….if you didn’t see it, it’s a MUST READ !”

Another very good post on Five Doves today. I have followed Sherry Vance’s posts on Five Doves for over 8 years. When she writes something it is in depth and very thoughtful ! This is a follow up to Jim Bramlett’s post on Sir Isaac Newton. She references one of my favorite “signs” …..the day the DOW dropped 777.68 points on Rosh Hashanah 2008 AND…….she (like me) believes the “most likely” Jewish Feast for the Rapture is Rosh Hashanah and she too believes September 2015 could be…….should be…… a very important time to be watching !1 Tic Toc !1 
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Sherry’s article from the link:

Sherry Vance (30 Nov 2014)
Reply to Jim Bramlett’s: Newton’s prediction of the timing of Christ’s return

Colonel Bramlett,
I have thought for some time that the Resurrection will occur on the eve of the Feast of Trumpets, September 13, 2015 and after that, “we who are alive and remain” will be caught up together with them in the Rapture.   So if I may, I’d like to comment on a couple things in your email:
        “Based on “Newton’s riddle” the book says, “Messiah’s possible return to earth will be on or before the year 2016.”
I believe that is CORRECT because when Rosh Hashanah 2015 begins the new Sabbatical cycle on Sept. 14, 2015, it will actually be the Jewish New Year of 5776 which is Tishri 1, 2016 on the Hebrew calendar!  ….except it won’t be Newton’s “Second Coming” on Yom Kippur, instead, it will be the Resurrection/Rapture on the Feast of Trumpets!
Not only that, but the new Sabbatical cycle of Rosh Hashanah 2015-2022 (which I equate as being the 70th Week), will begin with a JUBILEE YEAR!….and something significant occurs in the Jubilee Year >>> the Land reverts back to its original owner (indeed its CREATOR!), as the year of Jubilee demands and which also had occurred in the Jubilee years of 1917-18 and 1966-67.Hmmm… Is there any land in Israel not in the hands of the original owner?  Yes, there is!  Can someone say The Temple Mount?!  There is a reason Jerusalem is now front page news…..Jerusalem has become a cup of trembling to the world!  Israel is being prepared for 70th Week, which will be the process of returning ALL Land to the Rightful Owner/Creator via the judgments of the 70th Week of Daniel!  It will take those 7 years of the 70th Week to bring to fulfillment Daniel 9:24 > :…to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness…What else is there about a Jubilee?  In addition to it having to do with property reverting to its original owners, we can also expect that it has to do with finances (and the stock market, which the financial heads are predicting another major global crash far worse than the one in 2008 when the stock market finished at 777.68, which not only did the 3 sevens indicate the Three Weeks of Jacob’s Trouble, from 2000-2007/2007-2015/2015-2022) but also occurred in the Hebrew Year of 5768!

I disagree with Newton’s idea that there is no linguistic basis for adding (7 weeks & 62 weeks) those two numbers (49 and 434), because there is indeed a basis for adding the two together when one considers it gives us the mathematical equation that predicted when Jesus would announce Himself as Messiah! 

            If you look at the time predicted of Christ’s birth, the Magi (who revered Daniel and his God-given insights) had studied copies of the Book of Daniel and they  knew of the prophecy of Daniel 9:24-27. At the time of the appearance of the Star, they knew they were within a lifetime of this prophecy coming to pass. When they saw the Star of Bethlehem, their knowledge of this remarkably precise (and mathematical) prophecy, plus the promptings of the Holy Spirit, caused them to embark on the journey to Israel to pay their homage to the Jewish Messiah/King who was foretold to come at a precise appointed time. 

The prophecy concerning the timing of the coming of Jesus Christ, was given in unbelievable detail 600 years before Jesus was born. You will see that God foretold to the exact day when the Jews would be officially presented their long-awaited Messiah on Palm Sunday, April 6, 32 A.D.!  (Fulfilled to the letter, Matthew 21:1-11)

It was because of GOD’S UNPARALLELED MATHEMATICAL PROPHECY found in Daniel 9:24-26: “Seventy weeks of years, or 490 years (70 weeks of years) are decreed upon your people and upon your holy city Jerusalem, to finish and put an end to transgression, to seal up and make full the measure of sin, to purge away and make expiation and reconciliation for sin, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up vision and prophecy and to anoint a holy of holies. Know, therefore, and understand, that from the going forth of the commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem until the coming of the anointed one, a prince, shall be seven weeks of years, and sixty-two weeks of years; it shall be built again with city square and moat, but in troublous times. And after the 62 weeks of years, shall the anointed one be cut off (killed) and shall have nothing and no one belonging to and defending Him…” 

At the precise point in history when the 7 + 62 Weeks of Years occurred, Israel could expect Messiah to announce Himself as Messiah. What great news! This meant that Israel could not miss Messiah, right? All they had to do was to be aware of this prophecy, to count the weeks of years and be cognizant of current events in Israel as they unfolded.

Anyway, the Jewish people missed the fact that the “weeks of years” had come to completion at the time of Jesus’ birth and ministry. They did not notice there were exactly 69 Weeks of Years (173,880 days) between the decree of King Artaxerxes in 445 B.C to rebuild Jerusalem until Palm Sunday, April 6, 32 A.D.!!  But God had wonderfully foretold to Daniel the exact day on which Messiah was to announce Himself as King.

On this day after Palm Sunday, when Jesus delivered the preview of “Jacob’s Trouble” (Matthew 24), He didn’t address the time gap (of the Church Age which was about to commence) and it wasn’t shown on Daniel’s timeline either.  No matter how long this time gap was going to be, Jesus acted as though it was non-existent and so immediately after the 69th week closed, He introduced Israel to the events that begin to unfold in the final “one (last) week.”

Jesus didn’t say why He didn’t address the time gap, but what it does is place the beginning of the 70th Week hard against the last day of the 69th week, and if this latter day is dated, so is the former.   THIS MEANS, IN ESSENCE, THAT THE DAY AFTER PALM SUNDAY, APRIL 6, 32 AD, WE HAVE ALREADY SEEN THE PREVIEW OF THIS FINAL WEEK ON MONDAY APRIL 7, 32 AD WHEN HE RE-ENTERED THE CITY:
Now in the morning as he returned into the city, he hungered.  And when he saw a fig tree in the way, he came to it, and found nothing thereon, but leaves only, and said unto it, Let no fruit grow on thee henceforward for ever. And presently the fig tree withered away.” (Matthew 21:18-19)
It was a deliberate, chosen moment – and it is meant to convey to us that there has been a divinely decreed delay (the Church Age of Grace), and that the nation that rejected its Messiah on Palm Sunday would welcome the anti-Messiah on Fig Tree Monday, NOT THAT MONDAY, BUT A FAR OFF DAY THAT WOULD BEGIN IMMEDIATELY AFTER THE CHURCH AGE ENDED.
The true dates of the seven days that began on Palm Sunday and ended with the resurrection “three days and three nights” after the crucifixion is crucial to the timeline of the seventy weeks for it is built upon these dates and whatever chronology is constructed, it must be founded on the seven days that began on the dated day in the Bible, April 6, 32 AD, Palm Sunday, and it’s close companion, Fig Tree Monday, April 7, 32 AD – that is, the end of week 69 and the PREVIEW of week 70.

So why did Israel’s spiritual leaders miss this prophecy, when the pagan Magi did not? The answer is simple: They didn’t just ‘forget’ to count the days & years. 

Several hundred years before Christ was born, Jewish leaders began to believe and propagate two grievous teachings in error.

    1) They taught that the sacred Scriptures could not be taken literally because they were not totally inspired by God, and thus contained errors.

    2) They taught that prophecies were not to be taken literally, but spiritually. Prophetic books such as Daniel were not even taught anymore because they contained so much prophecy. After several generations of not believing, therefore not teaching “this nonsense”, spiritual leaders of Jesus’ day were completely unaware of this prophecy. Thus, they were unaware of the “time of their visitation.

The same wrong teaching concerning inspiration of the Bible and its inerrancy is occurring today. Most people today are unaware that all 300+ prophecies concerning Jesus’ Second Coming are coming to pass or have already occurred. These people are unaware – simply & ignorantly unaware.  Ignorance is bliss, as they say?  Well, many unaware people will miss Jesus’ Second Visitation, to their eternal peril.

I believe that Jesus will fulfill the 1st Fall Feast, the Feast of Trumpets, on Sept. 14, 2015 and His Second Coming will fulfill the 2nd Fall Feast of Yom Kippur 7 years later on October 5, 2022,  which is the Day of Atonement — JUDGMENT DAY!…….and  here is why:

There was a Yom Kippur for the Lord’s First Coming and there is a second Yom Kippur for His Second Coming. 

The Lord started His ministry on Yom Kippur.  Read Isaiah 61:2 and then Luke 4:16-21 >>> “To proclaim the acceptable year of the Lord….and the day of vengeance of our God; to comfort all that mourn…” etc.  All over the world Jewish people read the same Torah portion for a given Sabbath….they are all on the same page……and the “acceptable year” is a term for a Jubilee Year. 
In the synagogue, on the Sabbath, Jesus read the Isaiah passage when He began His ministry…..but after reading To proclaim the acceptable year of the Lord, Luke 4 tells us He suddenly stopped…and “closed the book, and he gave it again to the minister, and sat down.  and the eyes of all them that were in the synagogue were fastened on Him. And He began to say unto them, THIS DAY IS THIS SCRIPTURE FULFILLED IN YOUR EARS.”  THIS WAS ON YOM KIPPUR. Isaiah 61 is the prescribed Jewish scripture reading for Yom Kippur.  Where Jesus stopped reading applies only to His first coming!   The second part applies to His second coming which is yet to be fulfilled prophetically >> “And the day of vengeance of our God; to comfort all who mourn..”>>>> This is the Day of the Lord! 
Knowing that Jesus’ ministry STARTED on Yom Kippur is a major foretelling of when Jesus is also going to return to earth by His very own words.  This will also be on Yom Kippur.  It’s almost like a great PAUSE in the Isaiah reading between the two Yom Kippur’s, with 2,000 years of history intervening in that ‘pause.’
Ezekiel also saw the Lord’s return on Yom Kippur.  Ezek.40:1-3 says “In the beginning of the year, in the tenth day of the month(the beginning of the year means “the head of the year and is where we get the name for Rosh HaShanah….the 10th month is Tishrei and the 10th day is YOM KIPPUR).  Verses 2 & 3 state: “In the visions of God brought he me into the land of Israel, and set me upon a very high mountain, by which was as the frame of a city on the south. And he brought me thither, and behold, there was a man, whose appearance was like the appearance of brass, with a line of flax in his hand, and a measuring reed; and he stood in the gate.”
Then we also see in Daniel 9:25 that Jesus second coming will occur on the specific date of Yom Kippur.  Remember this is a dual prophecy of 7 weeks and 62 weeks.  After the 62 weeks Messiah is to be killed and this was for His First Coming as the Messiah.   Daniel 9:26 says “After threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off (“karath” – killed)
Apply that 7 weeks of years, to ‘when Jerusalem is restored for the second time’, ‘for a second coming prophecy of the Messiah’.   WHEN did Jerusalem get restored for a second time?  When the Jews took back Jerusalem on June 7, 1967 during the Six Day War!  This started the clock for the Lord’s Second Coming, again, on Yom Kippur.
Isaiah 11:11-12 – “It shall come to pass in that day that the Lord shall set His hand again the second time to recover the remnant of His people who are left: He will set up a banner for the nations, And will assemble the outcasts of Israel, And gather together the dispersed of Judah from the four corners of the earth.”
Passover Death of Jesus Christ
Unleavened Bread Burial of Jesus Christ
First Fruits Resurrection of Jesus Christ
Feast of Weeks (Pentecost) The outpouring of the Holy Spirit
Trumpets The resurrection of the righteous dead and rapture of the church
Atonement The Second Coming
Tabernacles The Messianic Era
Now here is where (and why) I digress from the calculation of exactly 49 Jewish (360-day, prophetic) years from the day Israel captured the Temple Mount on June 7, 1967, you get 49 X 360 = 17640 days, which amazingly takes one exactly to September 23, 2015, the Day of Atonement 2015) being when Newton saw as the Second Coming and Colonel Bramlett suggestions it may instead possibly be the Rapture:
    The Resurrection/Rapture will be fulfilled at His Coming in the air at the Feast of Trumpets, Sept. 14, 2015 (Hebrew date: Tishri 1, 2016, New Year/New Sabbatical cycle/Jubilee Year); while the Second Coming will be fulfilled 7 years later, on Yom Kippur, Oct. 5, 2022 (as the explanation above demonstrates).  From the new Sabbatical cycle beginning on Sept. 14, 2015 in a year of Jubilee, the process of returning the Land (and all of Creation) will begin as it reverts to the ORIGINAL OWNER/CREATOR via the Judgments that will fulfill Daniel 9:24 – to bring an end to all iniquity,  THEN….the fulfillment of the Feast of Tabernacles will begin the Millennial Kingdom of God on Earth, when God will dwell, or ‘tabernacle’, with men.
We are so very close!  But wait!  Is there still doubt?  Well, look at it this way > All of the appointed times rely upon the Sabbatical and Jubilee cycles.  If the 70th Week of Daniel does not follow the Resurrection/Rapture at the head of this coming new Sabbatical cycle of 2015-2022 and the Jubilee Year of 2015-2016, then we must all wait another 50 years!  Does anyone believe the world can last that long?….or is it ripe now with iniquity that will continue to increase and escalate until such a time as has never been on earth?      
Sir Isaac Newton said, “About the time of the end, in all probability, a body of men will be raised up who will turn their attention to the prophecies, and insist upon their literal interpretation in the midst of much clamour and oppositions.”  I like to think we are part of that body. 
I know this is long, and yet there is so much more, but there is simply no other way to get  understanding than by taking the time to read and analyze it.  So for those who really truly want to understand where we are on God’s Timeline, there is no other way but to study it. 
sherry vance~

28, 2014 Pastor JD Faraq covers Iran negotiations and Ferguson

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In this update pastor Faraq of Kaneohe Calvary Church in Hawaii makes mention of the Iran negotiations and their pact to build 8 more nuclear plants.

He also covers the disturbance in Ferguson and the Muslim brotherhood  participation in the incitement as well as the Islamic CARE.


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Nov 16, 2014 Pastor Bob follow the Money Trail Nando’s Thoughts

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November 16, 2014

Pastor Bob follow the Money Trail Nando’s Thoughts

First of all it is joyful to hear from you with this well thought reply to Jovial’s articles rebutting your information.

Your vast knowledge and references read is a product of your many years of study and dedication and even your listing of these books to substantiate your points will not make believers of your well written articles in All Roads lead to Rome.

What makes your articles believable are the synchronicity they have with the Bible scenario of the events leading to and during the seven year Tribulation, of which we are at the door.

Back in early 1980 I was already versed in the prophetic scriptures about the end times and had concluded that the Antichrist must come from the USA and the False Prophet from the Vatican. I like many, thought that 40 years from the birth of Israel in 1948 would see the Messianic Kingdom start. So I said in the primaries (8 years before) that Carter definitively was not the AC so whoever won the primaries for the Republican Party must be the Antichrist. Reagan won the primaries and the election to become the President and for the next 8 years I was telling everybody that I came in contact with that he was the AC and that Pope John Paul II was the False Prophet. It turns out that I was wrong and right after all but the premises were off by 46 years. I know now that Obama is the Antichrist and the Jesuit Pope Francis seems to be the False Prophet.

These two facts would fit neatly in the web of deceit and manipulation that are referenced in your articles of the series you posted. It is through the guidance of the Holy Spirit that this is my conclusion today from all the info that I have also read. This without having to look and corroborate the references you gave that some I had also read.

May Jesus Christ, the Holy Spirit and God the Father guide and protect us in these very dangerous and difficult times as we anxiously await the Rapture of the Church in the near future.

Please follow All Roads lead to Rome 1 to 15 on starting in Letters August 24, 2014 for Part 1.

As a last comment I do not think that Jovial is a Jesuit plant and that what he expressed was his believe of what the truth is. The problem is that what is going on is so convoluted and occult that it is hard to comprehend. But Jesus knows and He will let the light shine on the darkness. The Bible should be our anchor to compare for the truth.


Pastor Bob (16 Nov 2014)
“”Follow the Money Trail””

All Doves:

I repeat a previous statement, there is no better slave than the one who thinks he is free! If you had been listening to Attorney Karen Hudes the past year or two, a former senior counsel at the World Bank, and whistle-blower, I might not have had to do my 15-segment on “All Roads Lead to Rome.” Her video posts and news interviews have stated a lot of what I have shared in my basic posts. She does have a web site and posts periodically from what I heard. I have viewed her interviews on various business and news sites on the alternative media of the Internet. She knows how to follow the money to Rome (i.e. the Vatican) and she states such.

In my 15-part segment on “All Roads Lead to Rome” I provided ample documentation, source information, document references to back up what I have previously shared. The bibliography is more than substantial by any standard. One of the books that I listed even tells how the Vatican franchised out its usury business in or about 1823 to the House of Rothschild’s. The RCC was conflicted over the issue of Usury because the Bible condemned Usury, and so by franchising the Vatican’s “money lending at interest” (Usury) business to the Rothschild’s so they [the church] could appear ‘clean’ in the public eyes on the issue by letting the Jewish banking houses take the blame as compensation for their part of their cut of the business. Rome hides behind a curtain of secrecy. They kept the common man from reading the Bible for over 1,200 years, and even chained the Bible to the pulpit of their churches, at least until they could change the Greek Text to write their own versions. Codex Vaticanus does not even contain the book of Revelation according to Vatican sources.

What most people do not seem to understand is that the Vatican always operate under a veil of secrecy. They control world events from behind a curtain of secrecy. From a document that I refer readers to, below, confirms they don’t operate under the guise of short term ‘5-year, or even twenty-year plans’, but rather generational plans of 100-years and more. The pope does not broadcast its agenda through its trolls. The Vatican is like an octopus with its tentacles reaching far and wide. Such was the case with Jesuit “liberation” theology in South and Central America during the 1970’s, and 1980’s. The Jesuits were big time players in the overthrow of governments with bringing about socialism to the peasants.

Jovial replied that America never filed bankruptcy. That is a bald face lie! Furthermore, that is typical Jesuit disinformation. Jesus warned us well in advance about being deceived. America did file bankruptcy in 1933 and is still in bankruptcy, and Congressman James Traficant did not lie in his speech as Jovial wants you to believe. This is why today, ALL American flags in court rooms, federal, state, local government buildings have American flags with a 2-1/2-inch gold-thread fringe. They are symbolic of being under Martial Law, Admiralty Rule, c/o Executive Order #10834, dated August 21, 1959 issued by President Dwight D. Eisenhower.

We [the USA] have been under a state of declared National Emergency Law, since June 5th, 1933. This is the date President Franklin D. Roosevelt declared the USA bankrupt. Do not allow yourself to be deceived, fooled, tricked into believing otherwise by Jesuit Jovial. He obviously has chosen to ignore history, treaties, Presidential Executive Orders, and knows nothing about military regulations pertaining to “Colors & Standards”, as carried by the US Army. I suggest the reader and especially Jesuit Jovial go to – and read ‘Get That Gold Fringe Off My Flag!’ There are many articles on the Internet concerning the USA’s bankruptcy as well as still being under bankruptcy receivership. Jesuit Jovial is counting on the fact that few readers will ever bother to check out the evidence. If you believe the US government does not deceive or lies, then you have not been enlightened of how our government has treated the indigenous Indians of this country.

Every year, the President, whoever is in office at the time, signs and re-affirms “The War Powers Act of 1862″. While this act is reconfirmed every year by the sitting president, it is the law of the land, despite the fact that it is held in temporary suspension and not enforced per se. It’s official, it’s on the books, and could be executed into existence in a heart beat. The USA has been in a perpetual “state of war” under the War Powers Act of 1862. What the War Powers Act does not define, stipulate or state as to just who is the enemy?

I corresponded often with the late congressman James Traficant during his incarceration and following his release from federal prison. I can’t divulge the content of our correspondence but James Traficant, himself a Roman Catholic, but rest assured he did not trust either the Israeli’s or the Vatican. Virtually, most of the American public was and still is oblivious to what James Traficant’s address was telling the public. People are more interested in being kept warm, fed, and entertained than to know how they are being robbed and led to slaughter.

My apology to Bob Anderson, I thought I had listed ‘The Creature From Jekyll Island’ by G. Edward Griffith. It definitely deserves to be on my bibliography along with Eustace Mullins book on the ‘Secrets of the Federal Reserve’. At one time I had read each and everyone of the books I listed on my bibliography list. Four years ago, I donated most of my personal library, approximately 6,200 volumes to a Bible college in Pennsylvania. I retained fewer than two hundred books that I simply could not part with at the time. My wife has been instructed to give them to the same school at my demise.

My bibliography is more than a good start for the genuine ‘Truth Seeker’ wanting to know the truth about who rules America. There are dozens of titles that should be on that list but I could not recall all of them since I had given them away. I only spent fifty years researching and studying these three major subjects: 1. The Bible, 2. Roman Catholicism & Jesuits, and 3. Freemasonry. Jesuit Jovial knows well that the real truth of history is not in the text books, but rather in the private papers, personal memos, letters, diaries, journals, correspondence, even old newspapers of those that made and directed history. I majored in history in college, and graduate school. A point of history here should be noted – there have been over 6,000 books written about the Jesuits, and virtually all of them have been removed from the library shelves of the world. Rome never excommunicated Adolf Hitler, as a Roman Catholic in good standing with Rome, this in spite of his having been responsible for the deaths of countless millions. Perhaps Jesuit Jovial would care to explain to us why Hitler remained in good standing with the Roman Catholic Church? Why did the RCC not excommunicate Hitler?

Several weeks ago I had decided not to post any longer, and to devote my time to other matters. I’m really not interested in playing the Hegelian Dialectic games with Jesuit Jovial so I thought I should retire from posting.

However, in respect to Bob Anderson, Nando, John B, Charles Holler, and the defense of the truth, I had to post one more time. I’ll try to refrain from posting after this post.

The 15 posts on “All Roads Lead to Rome” can be easily verified, that is if you are a Berean and really care about knowing the truth. If you are a ‘Truth Seeker’, then there are a few documents that you should read or view for yourself on the Internet. There is also a 3-part video on the Internet that tells a great deal more about a lot of what I wrote and even confirms a great deal of what I wrote in some of my posts. Don’t just take Jesuit Jovial’s words or even mine for that matter, but simply weigh the evidence for yourself. There is so much more that you do not know.

1. Search out on the Internet a site titled: “Change is on the Horizon”

It is a three part video titled “The American Federal Empire” with a ‘You Tube’ address I.D. at the beginning of the link listing:

Part 1 is titled “Dawn of the Golden Age”
Part 2 is titled “The American Federal Empire”
Part 3 is titled “The Farmer Claims Program”

The narrator is James Rink. Each is about an hour long. Part 2 is the most pertinent to a number of things that I noted in my posts, and is a must view since it addresses much of what I noted in my postings. You could learn a lot if you watched all three segments, but Part 2 is most recommended, it deals with the 20th century and confirms what I said about our being secretly bonded and collateralized as guarantee for payment of the National Debt. I know it is hard for people to believe the truth, and that has been a key reason for its success over the past eighty years. Why would any corrupt government broadcast the real facts? You were not taught this part of history in school. The Internet of today is the most dangerous thing to Lucifer’s minions because it exposes the power-driven sociopaths and psychopaths of the world that want to enslave humanity.


2. Search out a site titled: “Judge Dale (ret.) and “The Great American Adventure”

This is a 5-part document (94 pages) that you have to read in its entirety. A fellow pastor forwarded the document to me back in early 2012.

In searching for this document, use the link that begins with – ‘anticorruption society files’ (preceded with (PDF’) in front). It will be found half way down on the first page listing of links. Some of the earlier preceding links have been deliberately obfuscated to appear confusing with by blocking various means of confusing the reader with links going nowhere. Judge Dale is a retired Federal Judge who became a whistle-blower.

Judge Dale (Ret.) is a pen name for his own safety. Leaking the information in his 94-page document was like an invitation to have a ‘bull’s eye’ placed on his back. This 94-page report confirms a lot of what I posted in my “All Roads Lead to Rome.” One of the interesting oddities that I learned from Judge Dale is that there is a “Judges” school for those appointed to the Federal Bench or are in the Judiciary branch of government.


3. Search out a document titled: “Project Vatican: Blueprint for the Restoration of the Global Kingdom of Jesus Christ.” It is an 11-page PDF document.

This document outlines the Roman Catholic Church’s master plan to restore its power and the restoration of the crossed “Keys” on the RCC Vatican’s Coat of Arms, which was officially lost with the October 31, 1517 beginning of the Reformation by Martin Luther, which severely decimated Rome’s temporal political power and exposed its religious spiritual corruption of the RCC. The “Two Crossed Keys” on the Vatican’s Coat of Arms represent the keys of power: gold and silver for religious power and temporal power.


4. Search out the book, ‘The Grand Design Exposed’ at – and discover for yourself the real Mystery Babylon. John Daniel’s book is on line in its full text. Read it and save a copy to your hard drive, should we lose the Internet some day soon. I do not expect that we will have a free Internet much longer. There are too many alternative news sites and sites that the government wants to shut down permanently.


Everything in the above four references either corroborates or validates my series of posts, or adds further information that corroborates my posts with info I did not know or have access to at the time of my post writings. This is FAR BIGGER than any of us can possibly know the whole story. Jesuit Jovial is a disinformation plant. I would suggest the reader save my 15 parts of “All Roads Lead to Rome” to your hard drive for future referral. It is becoming more and more questionable as to just how long we will have the freedom of the Internet. Already, the control of the Internet has been relinquished by the USA to ICANN, according to the Washington Post of a few weeks ago. ICANN now controls the issuing/terminating of web addresses. This is but the first step in chipping away at the Internet’s freedom of information. Obama’s comments last week about “net neutrality” was nothing more than propaganda, and it will not likely happen. Obama really wants to regulate the Internet as a ‘public utility’.

The four references above are just a few of hundreds that I could provide the reader to check out for themselves. I could refer to hundreds of sources that support my posting information. I selected these four specifically for their comprehensive nature as well as a source to open your eyes to what is taking place.

Believe it or not, we are owned by Rome. Why do you suppose our own government has never made public its Concordat between Washington, DC and Rome. Maybe you were unaware of this fact. This Treaty (Concordat) was made between the Vatican and the Reagan Administration State Department in 1983. The US State Department and other Washington sources continues to refuse all requests! What are they hiding??????? Perhaps Jesuit Jovial has an answer for this deception.

Between 1985 and 2008, I made more than a dozen requests for a printed copy of the ‘Reagan Treaty (Concordat)’ between Washington, DC and the Vatican, and all my requests were denied. Beginning with President Reagan, all inauguration ceremonies were and have since been conducted with the ‘swearing in ceremonies’ facing the pagan Masonic Washington (pagan obelisk) Monument. His [Reagan’s] insistence that ‘Presidential oath ceremonies’ face the Federal Mall and the Washington Monument (pagan obelisk) merely hid the real reason for changing the venue formalities. St. Peter’s in Rome and Federal Mall in Washington, DC are “mirror images” of Mystery Babylon. Go to and read for yourself ‘The Grand Design Exposed’. This book was on my biography list. Rome is all about “SUN” worship and not “SON” worship. THIS BOOK SHOULD OPEN THE EYES OF THE DOVES! The Bible says a lot about “obelisks” and none of it is good!

You cannot obtain a copy of the Washington-Vatican Rome Treaty (Concordat), no matter how hard you try. Not under the Freedom of Information Act; not by personal written request to your congressman or senator! WHAT’S SO SECRET THAT IT HAS NEVER BEEN MADE PUBLIC? The State Department refuses all Freedom of Information Act requests. The fact is “ALL” other Treaties, made with all the other countries of the world are available to read, but NOT the Treaty (Concordat) between Washington, DC and the Vatican! Yes we are subjects of Rome. Of that fact, I have no doubt. One day, the noose will be closed so tight around the necks of America, and you will have to take the “Mark” of the Beast. As I stated previously, keep your King James Bible bookmarked to Revelation, chapters 13 and 17. In order that you know the six references to the “Mark” of the Beast, you will find them in: Rev. 13:17; 14:11; 15:2; 16:2; 19:20; 20:4.

Whether you choose to believe me or Jesuit Jovial is your privilege, but in case I am wrong, I hope and pray you will not have to face the decision to take or reject the “Mark of the Beast” or that you will have the will power to stand against the day you might have to face taking the “Mark” of the Beast. It has been interesting the past few months, especially so when considering the fact that everything that I have posted or shared about the Daniel 9:24-27 interpretation; the Cults; the King James Bible issue; the Textus Receptus; heretics Westcott and Hort; their “eclectic” ‘cut and paste’ version of the New Greek Text; All Roads Lead to Rome; the spurious Apocrypha and pseudepigraphal writings; ALL of these topics I posted on were attacked by Jesuit Jovial, yes, everyone. I expected to be pelted by Roman Catholic spears, but not to the degree of Jesuit Jovial. This is why I stated that his rebuttals were more than just coincidental. They are the words of a true Jesuit troll. The length of his rebuttals reflect a level of formal education that one expects from Jesuit excellence in theology and government. Only a Jesuit would be as capable of his ‘point-counterpoint battle for the minds and hearts of men and women at Five Doves. Hosea 4:6 and Revelation 20:8 are so so relevant for what is coming down the pike.

Keep looking up (Luke 21:28) and God be with you all,

Pastor Bob

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Nov 15, 2014 JD Faraq Nov 9 prophecy update

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Very insightful prophecy update.


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Nov 2, 2014 Thanks to Jovial and pastor Bob for their con and pro articles on All Roads Lead to Rome

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Thanks to Jovial and pastor Bob for their con and pro articles on All Roads Lead to Rome

In this rebuttal to pastor Bob, Jovial breaks down one after the other facts posted by pastor Bob in his series all roads lead to Rome.

The two persons that are involved in this polemic are both Christians in my opinion and have voiced there opinions in very well written and articulated articles.
Verifying the claims by either is difficult unless you are highly skilled in a lot of subjects that bear into this discussion.

Jovial’s point about disinformation passed on by the true manipulators of the system is very valid and brings us to the fact that most of the info on the Pastor’s series is definitively not readily available to research.

In my opinion it is difficult to believe the main points presented by pastor Bob about the USA and the Vatican and Jovial’s reasoning is sound.

We must understand also how the things mentioned here bear on the end time’s scriptures of the book of Revelation. Chapter 13 mentions a beast coming out of the sea which is the system of the world controlled by Satan that gives its authority to the Antichrist. In chapter 17 of Rev. we see a prostitute woman sitting on a beast.

All these symbols are difficult to interpret and understand but both the beast and the prostitute are working their way to the crescendo that is shown in Revelation.

So without going into much deep thinking, if you are Satan who is the nation you choose that gets the role of the Rev 13 beast? Who commands all the most advance military system in the world? Who controls the financial empire of money (the dollar to put it simple)? Who has the most advanced and powerful military industrial complex with advance scientific knowledge through a university system where all nations send their students to learn?

Then who can be the second beast of Rev 13, and the harlot of Rev 17? It seems to imply a false religious system that is presently in the world. There could only be two possible candidates, the shell of false Christianity left after the Rapture and the Islamic world. Take your pick and you will be right regardless as both will be under Satan then.

My thanks go to Jovial and pastor Bob for the intention of educating the body of Christ in such a critical and profound matter as they see with their different perspectives and arguments.

I am sorry to hear that pastor Bob will not be posting or using the internet any more. Pastor Bob if there is anything that you know that should concern the rest of the doves or Christians all over the world please let us know. The obvious is that there is government snooping by the NSA and the rest of the world spy agencies, but these are the end times and such is expected.

Jovial (2 Nov 2014)
“Why All Roads do NOT lead to Rome “

At , “Pastor Bob” made a number of wild claims about how the Vatican or foreign countries or both are secretly in charge of the US Government. Of course, those two wild claims conflict with each other because if foreign creditors are secretly in charge, how could the Vatican be secretly in charge? It can’t be both. It has to be one or the other. Because many of the allegations are about what happens in secret, one could never prove or disprove them. But perhaps we can judge whether the sources really did their homework by the alleged facts that CAN be looked up.
One false claim made was “Jame (sic) Traifcant (sic) noted that the “figurehead” Secretary of the Treasury works for the IMF, and is not compensated.” and elsewhere he described the Secretary of the Treasury as “unpaid”. This is false. This was offered as evidence that the Dept of Treasury doesn’t really exist and/or is controlled by foreign agents. At it explains that the Secretary of the Treasury is paid $199,700 per year by the Federal Government. It lists the oath of office that the Sec of Treasury has to take, probably a response to internet fear mongering that he doesn’t take an oath. Not only does the Sec of Treasury take an oath, almost EVERY FEDERAL EMPLOYEE takes an oath. I worked for the Federal Courts as a Systems Administrator at one point in my life and I had to take an oath of office. Pastor Bob said, “No record can be found of any such administering the “Oath of Office” to Secretaries of the Treasury over the past twenty years. None whatsoever!”, yet the oath is listed right there on the internet for everyone to read!!!! At you can see a picture of Timothy Geithner taking the oath of office as Secretary of the Treasury in 2009!!!! Yet Pastor Bob tells us “No record can be found” of it. Try Google. You’ll find it fast, Bob. describes the membership of the IMF. Most countries appoint their respective ministers of finance to the governing board, and the USA is no exception. The USA has a voice just like other nations have a voice and the USA appoints the same role specific federal officer that most nations appoint. There is nothing unusual about the USA’s position or appointment. The IMF is a democratically run body made up of individual nations, each of which vote on policy. The USA is under no obligation to follow its orders the same as it is under no obligation to follow United Nations orders. In fact, the USA has the power to VETO ANYTHING ALL OTHER NATIONS on the IMF desire to do. The IMF operates with 204B SDRs as of Sept 4 , 2014 (see for proof) and the USA possesses 42B of those. Again, see since I do not make up wild claims. That means the USA has 20.6% of the vote on the IMF. The IMF requires a voting block of 85% agreement to do anything. They don’t desire to engage in controversial actions and want to avoid controversy. So the USA has enough voting power to deny the will of EVERY OTHER NATION ON THE PLANET!!!! Yet Pastor Bob tried to tell you the Sec of the Treasury is a mere puppet of this organization, bound to do whatever it tells him! Things could not be farther from the truth. If the USA has enough voting power to tell the rest of the world what to do by blocking any decision it does not like, the question is really whether the IMF is the puppet of the USA.
The Sec of Treasury IS INDEED paid by the USA for doing his job as Secretary. He is NOT paid for being on the IMF. That keeps his financial allegiance to the USA, not the IMF.
It was alleged “Federal Law 22 USC 286a(a) requires the President to appoint the US Governor of the IMF. This appointment is given to the Secretary of the Treasury. ” Well…again….someone did not understand what they read. Fed Law 22 USC286(a) can be found at, and it requires the President to appoint SEVERAL people to the IMF, not just one person. Those positions are;
• Person 1: “a governor of the Fund who shall also serve as a governor of the Bank”
• Person 2: “an executive director of the Fund and an executive director of the Bank”
• Person 3: “an alternate for the governor of the Fund”
• Person 4: “an alternate for the governor of the Bank”
There’s no requirement that the Sec of Treasury be one of these people. He cannot be all 4 people. It also says, “The Secretary of the Treasury shall instruct the United States executive director of the Fund to present to the Fund’s Executive Board a comprehensive set of proposals…”, so he cannot be person 2. Pastor Bob alleged “The Secretary of the Treasury is to abstain from from advising them in the discharge of their duties.”, but that statement of course contradicts the law I just quoted in the last sentence. WOW!!!! It is amazing how someone can claim that the law is 100% opposite of what it actually says!!!!!
And of course, the above info about 4 people being appointed was left out because it would have undone the logic behind why the Sec of the Treasury is a mere puppet of the IMF. When you read the whole thing, it because obvious why he cannot be.
It was also alleged that the Sec of Treasury serves on Interpol – the International Police organization. That is a rather wild statement. Why would a financial officer server on interpol? The Department of Justice would seem to appoint that member. I tried to fact check that wild claim, and all I could find was an article that a former UNDER-secretary of the Treasury was recently appointed head of Interpol. That does not mean that the top Sec of Treasury is an ex-officio member of interpol and I suspect that wild allegation came indirectly from someone misunderstanding that news story or something like that.
It was also alleged that the Treasury Department issues Social Security numbers! Well, anyone who has ever applied for one knows you send the application to the Department of Social Security, and you get it back from them. Why would anyone believe the Treasury Dept is in the loop at all? Apparently the level of absurdity to an accusation plays no role in whether it is put out there.
Pastor Bob also said, “Title 12, United States Code, Section 95(b) gives the Secretary of the Treasury complete power over you. ” No it does not. You can find Title 12 at and read it for yourself. It does nothing of the sort. Here’s what 95(b) says,
“The actions, regulations, rules, licenses, orders and proclamations heretofore or hereafter taken, promulgated, made, or issued by the President of the United States or the Secretary of the Treasury since March 4, 1933, pursuant to the authority conferred by section 95a of this title, are approved and confirmed.”
This is merely saying that the actions taken in respect to foreign exchange rates (which is what 95a covers) before the law were passed are recognized as valid even though they were no regulations about foreign exchange rates (again, the topic of 95a) when it was passed. That is all it is saying. Before reading something on the internet and passing it on as fact, it would be beneficial to actually READ the laws being cited rather than simply cite the same law someone else cited who did not understand what he was reading. Check the facts you hear before passing them on. We should not pass on rumors or wild unsubstantiated allegations. And just because someone cites a law does not mean they correctly understood the law they read. READ THE LAW BEFORE QUOTING IT AND CLAIMING TO KNOW WHAT IT SAYS!!!!!
So if all this information that was alleged at about what happens in public is wrong, how much credibility is there to all the other accusations about what happens behind the scenes that no one can prove or disprove? Probably not much. And there were SO MANY errors in that post – just one after another after another – that I probably have not addressed them all. But I have addressed several that are easy to look up the validity of via simply means – like Google – and that should have been looked up before passing the info along.
Pastor Bob was not the source of this info. He was simply passing on what he has read elsewhere, something he often does whether he credits the source or not. However, we should be more careful to check into facts before we pass them along. My guess is that the I11umati may be behind these false rumors. Why? Stop and think about it…..
If you think the Vatican is secretly in charge of the US Government, then you are not suspicious of the people who truly are secretly in charge. And if you research the accusations, you will quickly find that most of them can be easily proven wrong. By throwing easy to disprove accusations on the internet, it becomes easier to discredit ALL conspiracy theories (including those that are true) if 95% of the conspiracy theories out there are wrong. So if you are part of a secret conspiracy, the best way to hide that is not to deny truthful allegations, but to publish false allegations of other conspiracies that are easy to disprove, and thereby destroying the credibility of accurate theories.
That is why we should avoid passing on theories without checking into the facts. Not only do we destroy the credibility of legitimate theories when we do, but we destroy our own credibility as someone who does not check facts.
So my guess is that Pastor Bob was passing on false allegations invented by the I11uminati to misinform us and discredit stories that they are secretly in charge.

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Nov 1, 2014 pastor JD Faraq prophecy update October 26, 2014

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pastor JD Faraq prophecy update October 26, 2014



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Oct 14, 2014 Are we heading for a deflationary crash in this Shemitah year?

The year that started in Rosh Hashanah this September is a Shemitah year and also the seventh Shemitah that brings forth the Jubilee year of 2015-2016 next Yom Kippur. It looks that the news get more somber as each day passes on.

The article below was taken from and is related to the economic forces that are driving the Nation into a deflationary spiral.

Another possibility is that we have both an inflationary spiral in basic survival items like food and energy with a deflationary spiral occurring on income. This would resemble the third seal Rev 6:5 condition on the book of Revelation, the black horse.

It is a well known fact that the Federal Reserve Banks have printed an enormous amount of money from thin air and introduced it as depth to the tune of 18 trillion, yes, 18 trillion or much more, a sum that is impossible to pay and that is forcing those countries that were forced or coerced into buying our dept into creating an alternative market with their currencies backed by gold which they have been buying cheap on an artificially depressed gold market.

Well the good news is that Jesus is going to Rapture His church very soon and those of us who have paced our trust in His mighty hands will be rescued from the time of evil that is soon coming to your part of the world, with none escaping.


Oil Price War Throws the Fed into Crisis Mode

By Pam Martens and Russ Martens: October 13, 2014

OPEC Headquarters in Vienna, Austria

It was only a matter of time until the evidence became irrefutable that the only way out of a global deflation on the order of the Great Depression was to address the fact that 571 U.S. billionaires simply don’t have enough hours in the day to spend adequate money to buy enough goods that would require the restocking of shelves, create new factory orders and thereby ramp up job hiring to keep a nation of 317 million people afloat.

A nation where the top 10 percent reaps more than 50 percent of the income is doomed to end up in the quicksand of deflation, dragging down the rich along with everyone else. The Federal Reserve’s timidity to address this reality since the crisis of 2008, as the national debt ballooned and its own balance sheet quadrupled, has now put it in a dire pickle at a most inopportune time.

The Fed has attempted to assure the world that things are so dandy here in the “Goldilocks economy” that its biggest focus is when it will raise interest rates to keep the economy from overheating and keep inflation in check. That thesis has been quite a bit of a stretch with 45.3 million of its fellow citizens living in poverty and a labor force participation rate of 62.7 percent – a data point that has been steadily getting worse since the financial crisis in 2008.

A key component that has allowed both the Fed and Congress to keep from taking strong measures to address a looming deflation has been the price of crude oil. Because oil impacts everything from transportation costs that inflate the price of food and other products to the cost of an airline ticket or heating a home, the high price of this commodity has, to a degree, masked the growing deflation threat.

Now the mask has been removed. Oil prices are in freefall and an oil price war has broken out among OPEC members, raising the specter of 1986 when oil prices fell by 50 percent in just an eight month span. A serious global slowdown has effectively turned the oil cartel, OPEC, into a beggar thy neighbor band of go-it-alone dealmakers who hope to sign individual contracts with customers and grab market share before prices decline further.

Earlier this month, Saudi Arabia’s state-owned oil company, Saudi Aramco, cut its official crude price by $1 a barrel for November deliveries to its Asian customers. It also dropped pricing by approximately 40 cents a barrel to U.S. and European customers. According to OPEC data, “Saudi Arabia possesses 18 per cent of the world’s proven petroleum reserves and ranks as the largest exporter of petroleum.” As the world learned in 1986, if Saudi Arabia wants to start a price war to assert its dominance, it has both the resources and production capability on its side.

According to a report from Bloomberg News, Iran is now offering oil discounts similar to Saudi Arabia. The situation is fraying nerves in countries dependent on oil revenues with Venezuela calling for an emergency OPEC meeting prior to its regular meeting slated for November 27.

Before the latest news of OPEC’s disarray sent oil prices plunging, the Fed was already expressing some concerns about the low rate of inflation. Its minutes for the Federal Open Market Committee (FOMC) meeting of September 16 – 17, 2014 included the following:

“Total U.S. consumer price inflation, as measured by the PCE [Personal Consumption Expenditures] price index, was about 1½ percent over the 12 months ending in July.  Over the 12 months ending in August, the consumer price index (CPI) rose about 1¾ percent…

“The staff continued to project inflation to be lower in the second half of this year than in the first half and to remain below the Committee’s longer-run objective of 2 percent over the next few years. With longer-term inflation expectations assumed to remain stable, resource slack projected to diminish slowly, and changes in commodity and import prices expected to be subdued, inflation was projected to rise gradually and to reach the Committee’s objective in the longer run.”

In other words, a sudden, sharp drop in inflation expectations caused by an oil price war raging around the globe was not present in the Fed’s crystal ball just a month ago. But it should have been: other commodity prices have been sending up red flags for some time now. As we reported on September 24, just one week after the Fed’s September meeting:

“Iron ore has now slumped 41 percent this year, marking a five-year low. In just the third quarter the price is off by 15 percent, suggesting the trend remains in place. This week the price broke $80 a dry ton for the first time since 2009.

“Agricultural commodity prices are also confirming the trend with corn off 22 percent since June and wheat down 16 percent in the same period. Soybean prices are down 28 percent this year to the lowest in four years.

“Deflationary winds blowing in from Europe, cooling economic growth in China, together with the question of just how disfigured the stock market has become as a result of $1.09 trillion propping up the S&P 500 through corporate buybacks in the last 18 months, all signal one word for the average investor: caution.”

Another key gauge of inflation expectations, the 10-year U.S. Treasury note, has been telling the market for some time that deflation was far greater a worry than inflation and that the Fed’s thesis of hiking interest rates next year had all the staying-power of a snow cone in July.

The 52-week high in the yield of the 10-year Treasury note was 3.06 percent. This morning, it is yielding 2.28 percent. That’s not the behavior of an interest-rate benchmark anticipating heated economic growth in the U.S. or an interest rate hike by the Fed.

The market has delivered epiphanies to the Fed on multiple fronts – some of them blazing with sirens – but the Fed seems to have had its head in the sand just as securely as it did heading into the 2008 crisis.

The problem for the Fed, which has already quadrupled its balance sheet to over $4 trillion to sustain a less than 2 percent inflation rate while keeping interest rates in the zero-bound range, is that its monetary arsenal loses its firing power with the onset of deflation, should it occur.

Deflation boosts the value of holding cash and deferring purchases. The thinking goes like this: the longer you wait to buy, the cheaper the house or product becomes, effectively raising the value of the cash you hold. Conversely, if you spend your cash prematurely, the product or investment you buy may lose future value as a result of the deflation, handing you a wealth loss. If enough people adopt that attitude and defer enough purchases, the deflationary spiral becomes self-reinforcing, as it did in the Great Depression.

Then there is the problem of the strong U.S. dollar. This hampers export growth for U.S. manufacturers because it costs more in local currencies to buy the product we are attempting to sell in foreign markets. A strong dollar can also accelerate deflationary trends by making foreign imports cheaper in the U.S. as a result of the increased purchasing power of our currency. This would further complicate the Fed’s ability to beat deflationary forces.

As Wall Street on Parade reported in December, the Fed prides itself on gathering intelligence from the marketplace, starting its day at 4:30 a.m. at the New York Fed and ending up around 6:30 p.m. with conference calls to the Federal Reserve Board of Governors in between. The growing fear is that the Fed is once again, like 2008, watching the market tick by tick but failing to see the larger, dangerous trends.


Inflation AND deflation at the same time? Economic straws in the wind

by futurist Richard Worzel, C.F.A.

I’ve noticed a strange development recently: two indicators that I follow for inflation and deflation are both rising, implying that we may be headed for a period of both inflation and deflation at the same time. Since no reputable economist that I’ve ever read would conceive of such an apparent oxymoron, this caught my attention. First let me describe the indicators, discuss how it might happen despite the apparent contradiction, and then talk about some of the potential implications and what you might do about them.

These indicators are based on the number of times the words “inflation” and “deflation” appear in online news media, as counted by, and I’ve been tracking them weekly since September, 2005. Because they’re based on media reports, they probably indicate more about sentiment than about economic developments. This idea is based on a similar indicator that I follow that tracks the incidence of the word “recession.” It’s been known for decades that tracking the incidence of “recession” can be a leading or real-time indicator of recession, in part because it may become a self-fulfilling prophecy: the more people talk about a recession, the more worried they’re likely to be – and become – about the possibility. Below is the “recession” indicator up to this week. Because a recession is a negative thing, I’ve inverted the Y axis, so that the greater the number of times that the word “recession” appears, the lower the line falls.

You’ll notice that the indicator implied that the economy collapsed in October of 2008, bounced off the bottom in February of 2009 and began a rapid climb back, but then slowed significantly in the late Spring or early Summer of 2009. Since mid-Summer of 2010, the indicator has essentially stalled. This pretty much matches what the economy has done: the world didn’t end, and the economy did recover, but hasn’t come even close to recovering its pre-crash strength. Now we seem to be experiencing slowing economic growth, and a sluggish, painful recovery. Moreover, if anything, this indicator foreshadows even more anemic growth ahead for America – not a double-dip recession, but barely a recovery. This will have significant implications in a whole range of areas, including the 2012 presidential election. I’ll circle back to these implications a little later.

Now let’s look at what the “inflation” and “deflation” indicators seem to be saying:

First notice that from August of 2008 (line A) until December of 2009 (line C) the use of the term “inflation” declined dramatically. This is to be expected, as a softening economy isn’t expected to have rising inflation, so inflationary expectations would naturally be in decline as the economy went into recession. Next, notice that the incidence of the word “deflation” started to shoot up in August of 2008, just as the incidence of “inflation” was falling. This, too, is to be expected: when an economy goes into severe reversal, the possibility of deflation grows substantially.

Why deflation is so dangerous

Incidentally, deflation is much more dangerous than inflation. If consumers think that the price of a car, for instance, is going to be lower next month than this month, they will tend to postpone buying. But if next month they expect it to be lower still the month after that, they will continue to wait. This creates a downward spiral of consumers withholding purchases, which lowers demands, which causes prices to fall, which causes consumers to postpone purchases further, and so on. This kind of stuff makes central bankers wake up screaming in the night, and explains why virtually all of the major central banks flooded the world with liquidity by printing money during the dark days following the Panic of 2008.

Interestingly, the incidence of both inflation and deflation declined around December of 2008 (line B). I interpret this as meaning that although the economy was still in recession (so that inflation expectations were low), folks concluded that the world was not going to end, so that concerns about deflation began to fall as well. This continued up to line C, in December 2009, and it is at this point that something strange begins to happen: expectations of both inflation and deflation begin to rise at the same time, and this trend continues today. What does this mean?

Well, it could mean that these indicators aren’t consistently reliable or worthwhile. I don’t believe this. I think this strange development means something important. Let’s look at the possibilities.

It could just be confusion in the marketplace…

First, it’s clear that there is a lot of confusion in the marketplace, and a lot of disagreement among economists and investors, and the indicators could just be registering the split in opinion. Those who expect rising inflation point to the unprecedented low levels of interest rates and the flood of liquidity produced by central banks. In normal times, you would expect that this would lead to asset booms and rising consumer prices – inflation, in short. Meanwhile, those who expect deflation point to high debt levels, especially in the “rich” countries, which are leading to “deleveraging” (which means paying off debt instead of spending money), and the subsequent anemic demand. They then draw parallels to Japan’s experience since the 1990s, the so-called “lost decades,” when Japan suffered through an extended bout of deflation, and a stalled economy with effectively no growth. It’s pretty clear that most (but not all) central bankers in the developed world fall into this crowd, with Ben Bernanke of the U.S. Federal Reserve leading the pack. Time alone will tell which crowd is right. There are legions of commentators on both sides of the debate, which makes the situation even more confusing.

But let’s consider the possibility that both indicators are right, and that this isn’t an oxymoron: is it possible that we might see pervasively rising prices and pervasively falling prices at the same time? That we might experience both inflation and deflation simultaneously? Well, first we have to explore how that could happen, as it seems to be a contradiction in terms.

…or it could be something much more significant

I think the key is that we are going to see lots of prices rising, and lots of prices falling at the same time, and I think it’s going to happen because of a fundamental realignment in the world’s economic order. The Rapidly Developing Countries (“RDCs”), like China, India, Brazil, Mexico, Malaysia, Indonesia and others, are growing much more rapidly than the developed countries. Indeed, while the developed countries of North America, Europe, and Japan continue to struggle with anemic growth in the range of 2% or less, the RDCs have bounced back vigorously with growth rates in real GDP as high as 10%. Moreover, the RDCs, because of their higher growth rates, represent a steadily increasing share of global GDP. Because of this, the RDCs are having more and more influence on the global demand for goods and services, and particularly for commodities. In particular, they are driving up demand for food, oil, copper, and many other essential items.

Take China, for instance. The average food intake for a Chinese citizen in 1960 was about 1600 calories a day. As China prospered, and developed a middles class, one of the first things its more prosperous citizens did was to feed their children and themselves with more and better food. As a result, by 2000 the average Chinese was consuming 2600 calories – and an increasing share of that 2600 calories was in the form of meat, which takes far more resources to produce – and is therefore substantially more expensive – than an equivalent number of calories from grain. Moreover, Chinese population doubled in that period, from 660 million to 1.3 billion. The overall result was that China, as a nation, tripled its consumption of food in a 40-year period – an astonishing rate of growth. And the same increase in middle class prosperity also drives the demand for consumer goods and the means to produce them (although not as dramatically as the demand for food).

Now step back and consider that the same thing is happening in all of the other RDCs: as their billions of people move out of poverty into a more prosperous middle class, their demand for goods and services, especially food, will skyrocket. And this is going to be the major driver of global growth in demand for food, for consumer goods, and for the plant, equipment, and materials needed to produce them. As a result, I fully expect that the global economy is going to experience significant inflation, starting with food and energy.

While the RDCs grow quickly, the developed countries get poorer

Now let’s talk about what is happening in the developed world. The economies of North America, Europe, and Japan are experiencing continuing and protracted weak growth, high rates of unemployment, and a fear-inspired desire to pay off some of the mammoth debts that they have incurred. The result is that demand will be weak, and companies will struggle to sell their goods and services. At the same time, competition from the emerging economies of the RDCs, coupled with increasingly powerful and sophisticated automation in the developed world, is putting downward pressure on the prices of consumer goods, most of which are at least to some extent discretionary. Families can usually postpone buying a new car, have a washing machine fixed instead of replaced, or tell Junior that he has to live with his 3-year old game console instead of getting a new one. The result is that the setting is right for deflation in many consumer goods. Consumers will step back from that marketplace – indeed, in many areas, they have already stepped back – which will put downward pressure on demand and prices. And when consumers see that prices of consumer goods are falling, they may decide to wait some more – especially as an increasing share of their paychecks may be being taken up in buying essentials like food and energy. This puts further downward pressure on demand and prices, which encourages consumers to wait even more.

What this means is that the cost of essentials will go up (inflation), while the prices of discretionary goods will go down (deflation). And what this means is that consumers in the developed world effectively become poorer, spending more of their incomes on essentials, and less on discretionary luxuries, even as consumers in the RDCs move out of poverty, and start having more money to buy things beyond the essentials. This development could mean that there is a further leveling of standards of living between the “rich” world and the “poor” world.

Now let’s look at some of the implications of all this, and let me start with something that’s a truism in the futurist community: Someone always benefits from change. Given the relatively bleak outlook in the developed world, the first and most obvious way to benefit from the changes that I’ve projected would be to focus on building business in the RDCs. That’s easier said than done, but is clearly something that all businesses should be thinking about.

Someone always benefits from change

This truism also means, though, that companies should be looking for opportunities at home as well. Let me draw an analogy. I’ve written two books on entrepreneurship, drawing on my experience working with entrepreneurs when I worked in venture capital financing. One of the things I suggested to those wishing to start a business is that they should look at entering mature, slow-growth or even declining businesses, which I collectively called “ugly industries.” The reason I suggested this is that such industries attract very little competition, and the entrenched companies tend to plod along, doing the same old things in the same old ways. Accordingly, it’s often relatively easy to enter such industries with fresh perspectives, new ideas, and pick up market share relatively easily. And if you can gain market share, even in a declining industry, you can make good money.

Likewise, in the current environment, many companies have just hunkered down, and are waiting for good times to return. They’ve laid off people, slashed advertising budgets, and are mostly relying on price cutting to maintain their markets. This makes it a great time for companies with imagination and a willingness to innovate to come up with new offerings, better offerings, more efficient products, more inventive pricing, hire creative people, and generally wreak havoc on their catatonic competitors. I’m not saying this will be easy, but the history of business is filled with companies that started and thrived in bad times, including GE (1873), Newsweek magazine (1933), Hewlett-Packard (1939), Hyatt Hotels (1957), Fedex (1971), CNN (1980), and Flickr (2004).

This is the new normal; get used to it

The next implication is that you shouldn’t wait for the economy to return to “normal,” meaning the way things were in the mid-2000s, or even the late 1990s. This is the new normal; anemic growth is going to be with us for some years to come while consumers pay down debts, and governments struggle to get their financial houses in order. Indeed, if you’re a pessimist, it can be argued that things aren’t going to get better, and the days of easy living are over for good, in part because of the aging of the boomers in the developed world, and the burden their retirement and health care needs will place on our governments and economies.

Turning to the implications for politics, bad times breed voter discontent. The pivotal moment in the Reagan – Carter debates was when Ronald Reagan asked voters “Are you better off than you were four years ago?” Voters decided they weren’t, and the peanut farmer went back to Georgia, while Reagan went to the White House. Indeed, the single most reliable predictor of American electoral success is how Americans’ personal incomes change in the year before an election. That would seem to strongly indicate a large Republican victory in this year’s mid-term elections. And given the outlook for America over the next two years – continued sluggish growth and high unemployment – I would guess that there’s an excellent chance that Obama will be a one-term president regardless of what he has done or will do in the next two years. He fell into an enormous mess but will get the blame for not fixing it.

The greatest danger

Next, there’s a very real risk that voters in the developed world will conclude that our problems here are being caused by workers in the RDCs stealing jobs, income, and prosperity from us. There is a tiny grain of truth in this, but nowhere near as much as people believe. It is true that China is cheating by keeping its currency artificially low, and that they are doing it to give their exports an unfair advantage in world markets. But it’s not as clear that if they let their currency appreciate significantly that it would make all that much difference to American workers or the developed economies. It would remove a significant irritant from global trade, but it would not be a panacea that would fix everything. And if China does not let its currency float, and America decides to impose punitive measures, this could lead to a truly devastating result: a global trade war.

This has happened before. There was an emergence of a global economy at the beginning of the 20th Century, starting with the reduction in tariffs in the 1890s among the major trading nations, and it caused a global boom. Indeed, one of the reasons that Roaring 20s roared was because global trade soared. The stock market collapse of 1929 exacerbated already mounting trade irritants, which produced mounting pressure on politicians to start protecting domestic jobs and industries. Protection always sounds like a good idea, but it only works if your trade partners let you get away with it by not reacting. Since that doesn’t happen, protectionism on one side breeds retaliation on the other side, which provokes counter-retaliation, and so on. In particular, the Hawley-Smoot Act passed by the U.S. Congress in 1930, and named for the two Republican senators who sponsored it, raised tariffs to levels that had not been seen since 1828 in order to “protect” American industries and American workers. Economists by the dozens begged President Herbert Hoover to veto it, but he signed it anyway, triggering equally massive retaliation by America’s trading partners. As a result, global trade fell by two-thirds in the three years from 1929 to 1932, pushing the world into a downward economic spiral which was only relieved (if that’s the word) by World War II. This is one of the lesser-known, but more important, causes of the Great Depression of the 1930s.

Ironically, all governments know that protectionism doesn’t work, and that a trade war would badly hurt everyone. Yet, in the heat of the moment, with voters demanding action, who knows what a nervous government might do?

One inescapable conclusion

Whether my interpretation about the possibilities of these two indicators turns out to be correct or not, one thing is clear: we are in uncertain and dangerous times. There are few useful precedents, and the risks are great. In particular, watch what happens with the currency wars, and be prepared to take unusual, even drastic steps to protect yourself, your business, and your family for the difficulties ahead. This is not a drill.

Nando end


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