In the video below Mr. Stearman covers the subject of the two witnesses of the book of Revelation which he identifies as Moses and Elijah.

It is easy to arrive at the conclusion of Elijah and Moses from the arguments that he presents in his video, but the inclusion of Moses as the second witness is a little more obscured by the fact that in Jude 9 it is shown that Moses died and Satan fought for his body with Michael. ( ⁸ In the very same way, on the strength of their dreams these ungodly people pollute their own bodies, reject authority and heap abuse on celestial beings. ⁹ But even the archangel Michael, when he was disputing with the devil about the body of Moses, did not himself dare to condemn him for slander but said, “The Lord rebuke you!”^{[d] 10} Yet these people slander whatever they do not understand, and the very things they do understand by instinct—as irrational animals do—will destroy them. ). So it is still possible as Lazarus was also resurrected into mortality not immortality by Jesus.

It is an interesting and thought provoking theme of which we will not know the answer till they come or if we get to heaven before they come.

Nando

Nando

Again we are reminded of the times we are in. In the e-mail I received today from a close friend we see the Bible Code and the Jewish Rabbi’s reaching the conclusion that their Messiah will be announced with the appearing of the prophet Elijah on Passover of 2012. In the article below the writer comments on this subject and states that with Elijah we shall also see the other witness Moses. He also states that the Resurrection and Rapture will occur in Easter which this year also corresponds to the Jewish Feast of First Fruits.

It has long been my opinion that the two witnesses will make their appearance on the first day of the seven year (2520 days) long Tribulation. In my opinion we are already well into the limit of time set by the Bible prophecies regarding the start of the Tribulations. Not to long to wait to see if this will play as told here.

Nando

From: rapturetj@comcast.net
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Subject: Fw: ALERT! ALERT! It’s about time to leave! / Tom Gaston
Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2012 16:42:15 -0500

IMPORTANT!

From Miriam:

A friend of mine who has contacts in Israel just told me that many rabbis and others there– strongly believe what Rabbi Matityahu Glazerson has been saying is true……. that the ” Redemption of Israel ” will finally come to Israel beginning this Pesach ,( Passover ) in 2012 .

Because the ” religious Jews ” know that God promised them Elijah just before the Day of the Lord begins, as in Malachi 4, and even Rabbinical Judaism expect him to show up during Pesach ( Passover )… THEY WILL NOT BE SURPRISED when they find out that Elijah and Moses have indeed come to Israel ( as the Body of Christ is secretly leaving Earth! ).

The Two Witnesses will again be preaching ” the Gospel of the Kingdom ” – which is composed of “the Law ( Moses ) and the Prophets ” ( Elijah )…. “Let THEM ( Israel ) hear THEM ” ( the Witnesses ), as in Luke 16:29 , 2 Kings, 17:13, Matt 22:40, Luke 16:16, Luke 24:44, Acts 24:14. The Tribulation opens back under the dispensation of the Law , extending through to the end of the Day of the Lord at the end of the Millennium .

We should all have known all along – as believers – that there is NO other season , no other Feast , no other day and no other time for the Day of the Lord to open except during the 7 day feast of Pesach – during the Feast of Firstfruits , when ” the single sheaf of the firstfruits of barley is presented to the Father, at which time the ” Bride’s fruits ” will be examined and rewarded at the morning sacrifice at the Bema of Christ !

Pesach ( Passover ) is the Only time national Israel is in expectation to see the arrival of Elijah!

Miriam

( Note: from Tom G. )……. Below is a link to a youtube video with Rabbi Glazerson in Israel who has found a Bible Code relating to this coming Passover season in 2012 . The Bible Code shows that Israel’s ” redemption ” will finally come and begin during Passover season this year.

IMPORTANT : Something you all need to remember here about the Jewish rabbis and the Jewish people at large in Israel. They don’t believe in ” Yeshua ” yet so when they say or talk about the ” messiah ” coming this year durin Passover they are actually talking about the ” second advent ” ( in context ) and they are NOT taling about the Rapture of the Church which they do not believe in.

Bible Code for….. Passover 2012
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6bHIc5W9AFw&feature=results_main&playnext=1&list=PL923E69CE91A8D1DA

Addendum below : from Tom Gaston

( Check out the amazing Hebrew gematria phrase below which I found today dealing with the ” Church , Resurrection , First fruits , and an Earthquake ).

I believe that there is going to be an Earthquake at the time of the resurrection / Rapture . I also believe that this is how God is going to ” take out ” Israel’s enemies and their ” infrustructure ” and immoblize them at the opening of the ” Day of the Lord .” The ” Day of the Lord ” comes as ” sudden destruction ” upon Israel and the world (1 Thess. 5:3 ).

Iran has buried most of all their Nuclear facilities ” under ground ” right where they are suppose to be as far as I am concerned. All God has to do now in order to STOP Iran’s nuclear program is just SHAKE THE HELL OUT OF THE EARTH in Iran ( Which is very earthquake active anyway ) and their whole nuclear program would be stopped, shut down, and destroyed in an instant by the Hand of God as the collapse of the earth and the violent shaking during such an Earthquake would most definitely destroy those facilities under ground. That’s all God has to do to shut’em down!

Also, I believe that Damascus at that time could very well be leveled by an Earthquake , which could possibly fulfill the Isaiah 17:1,2 prophecy concerning the ” destruction of Damascus .” All God has to do is just violently shake the earth at the time of the resurrection / Rapture / opening of the Day of the Lord / and this whole threat against Israel in Psalm 83 will have been stopped by the hand of God in a ” blink of an eye ” at the time of our departure. This could certainly fulfill the Isaiah 17:1 prophecy which states that the ancient city of Damascus will become a ” ruinous heap .” The Bible does NOT say how Damascus will be destroyed? but an earthquake is most definitely one likely way God may do it? Such an Earthquake would destroy buildings, communication systems, military facilities……etc…etc.

Isaiah 17:1 ….The burden of Damascus . Behold, Damascus is taken away from being a city, and it shall be a ruinous heap .

Because I believe that there is going to be a an ” earthquake ” at the time of the resurrection / Rapture , which God could very well use to bring about confusion and destruction in order to stop this all out attack on the nation of Israel. I therefore decided to see if I could find a Hebrew gematria phrase with the term ” Earthquake ” which would point to First fruits in the year 2012 .

And to my surprise I did find one!

The Church, First fruits resurrection and the earthquake / Hay = 5 / Kaph = 20 Nun = 50 Sameck = 60 Yod = 10 Yod = 10 Hay = 5 / Beth = 2 Kaph = 20 Vav = 6 Resh = 200 Yod = 10 Mem {final letter} = 600 / Tau = 400 Cheth = 8 Yod = 10 Yod = 10 Hay = 5 / Vav = 6 / Hay = 5 / Resh = 200 Ayin = 70 Shin = 300 / total = 2012

Matthew 28:1 – 3 …………”Now after the sabbath , as it began to ” dawn ” toward the first day of the week , Mary Magdalene and the other Mary came to look at the grave………..And behold, a ” severe earthquake ” had occurred, for an angel of the Lord descended from heaven and came and rolled away the stone and sat upon it…….And his appearance was like lightning, and his garment as white as snow;”

Notice the chapter and verse of the gospel of John below.

John 20:12 ………….”And she beheld two angels in white sitting, one at the head , ( He is the Beginning – the Aleph / Alpha ) and one at the feet ( He is the END – the Tau / Omega ), where the body of Jesus ” Had ” ( past tense ) been lying.”

Now lets make an interesting observation here.

Christ is the ” Head ” of the Church and the ” Church ” represents His feet which carry the gospel message of the ” good news ” of His gospel which is the death, burial, and resurrection .

Romans 10:15 …….How will they preach unless they are sent ? Just as it is written, “ HOW BEAUTIFUL ARE THE FEET OF THOSE WHO BRING GOOD NEWS OF GOOD THINGS !”

Ephesians 1:22 ……And He put all things in subjection under His feet , and gave Him as head over all things to the church .

Colossians 1:18 …….He is also head of the body , the church ; and He is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead , so that He Himself will come to have first place in everything.

I Can hardly wait for Easter / First fruits to get here as it could very well be the time of our departure this year folks?

In Christ, Tom Gaston
Rapturetj@comcast.net

Nando

In the past few days I have posted several articles concerning the Rapture and it seems that the times are ripe for the Rapture.

Jim Bramlett posted two articles on the subject and I will put both here today.

They are a good possibility for a date. I think that Pentecost is also a possibility.

Nando

http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/feb2012/jim210-1.htm

Jim Bramlett (10 Feb 2012)
“Has God given us a hint of the rapture day?“

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Dear friends:

Has God given us a hint of the rapture day?  Some may recoil and say, “Here we go again.  Bramlett’s out of his gourd.”  (Whatever that means.)

I may be out of my gourd, but I believe the Lord may be revealing some things to us.

The Day of Ascension has always seemed to me like a strong possibility for the rapture.  Other significant dates also have their arguments, but the Day of Ascension has always seemed special to me.

Why?  Because that is the day of Jesus’ rapture!  He set the example.  He was the firstfruits. “Each one in his own order: Christ the firstfruits, afterward those who are Christ’s at His coming” (1 Corinthians 15:23).

As I woke up this morning the song “Days of Elijah” began blaring in my brain and I could not get rid of it.  It was like the Lord planted it there.  As I listened, some intriguing thoughts came to me:

1.  Probably the most watched TV show in history was Super Bowl 46, on February 5, 2012.  Millions from every continent and language viewed it.  It would have been an ideal venue for God to communicate with us.

2.  The star of the game and Most Valuable Player was quarterback Eli Manning.  I said to myself, “Hmmmm,  I wonder what Eli means in Hebrew.”  I checked my lexicon and discovered that Eli means “ascension.”  Whoa!  That seemed very significant.

3.  Smith’s Bible Dictionary says of Eli: “The character of Eli is marked by eminent piety, as shown by his meek submission to the divine judgment.”  God’s people who will be raptured are referred to as saints, not because of their own behavior, but by the blood of Jesus.

4.  The song says, “Lift your voice, it’s the year of jubilee.”  I checked the Internet and many believe 2012 is, in fact, the biblical “Year of Jubilee.”

5.  I remembered that one of my favorite and most trusted Bible teachers, Marilyn Agee, has written on the possibility of Ascension Day 2012 being the day if the rapture.  http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/feb2012/marilyna28.htm.

6.  All these confluences came to me today within minutes.  It was like God was feeding them to me.

Behold He comes riding on the clouds,
Shining like the sun at the trumpet call;
Lift your voice, it’s the year of jubilee,
And out of Zion’s hill salvation comes.

He’s coming!  Prepare ye the way!

Jim
Nando

http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/feb2012/jim210-2.htm

Jim Bramlett (10 Feb 2012)
“The Days of Elijah“ 

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Dear friends:

It is mind-boggling to think that our generation alone is uniquely standing on the precipice of time and where no generation has ever stood.  We are living in the days spoken of by the ancient prophets.

These prophets spoke of the Israelites being gathered back into their own land, in passages such as Ezekiel 37:21, “This is what the Sovereign LORD says: I will take the Israelites out of the nations where they have gone. I will gather them from all around and bring them back into their own land.”  This began in 1948.  The “dry bones” of Ezekiel 37 have come alive.

As also prophesied, we are seeing the world turn against Israel.  “On that day, when all the nations of the earth are gathered against her, I will make Jerusalem an immovable rock for all the nations” (Zechariah 12:3).  The catalyst for this is oil, or petro-dollars, causing the world to sell out tiny, democratic Israel to despotic Muslim nations for purposes of greed.

These collective signs are historically unprecedented.  Only this generation has seen them.  But there are many other biblical signs, such as: increased violence worldwide (as in the days of Noah), increased apostasy, increased cults, false religions and false prophets, increased natural disasters such as frequency of earthquakes, and more.

For these and many other reasons, is it any wonder that millions believe the return of Christ is so near?  Polls show that even non-believers think the world is at such a point.  This is the most exciting time in all history to be alive!

Many Bible students are calling these “the days of Elijah.”

This morning, I woke up singing that song, “The Days of Elijah,” to myself, and was stirred.  I feel led to share the blessing with you.
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Days of Elijah – music

By Judy Jacobs: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r_yC3CJwcFY&feature=related
(This version is electric in its power.)

By Paul Wilbur: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ra4HWj1jrJA

Other: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m1Be0qJw9ZE

Lyrics:
These are the days of Elijah,
Declaring the word of the Lord:
And these are the days of Your servant Moses,
Righteousness being restored.
And though these are days of great trial,
Of famine and darkness and sword,
Still, we are the voice in the desert crying
‘Prepare ye the way of the Lord!’

Behold He comes riding on the clouds,
Shining like the sun at the trumpet call;
Lift your voice, it’s the year of jubilee,
And out of Zion’s hill salvation comes.

These are the days of Ezekiel,
The dry bones becoming as flesh;
And these are the days of Your servant David,
Rebuilding a temple of praise.
These are the days of the harvest,
The fields are as white in Your world,
And we are the laborers in Your vineyard,
Declaring the word of the Lord!

There’s no God like Jehovah.
There’s no God like Jehovah!

Amen!

P.S.

Behold He comes riding on the clouds,
Shining like the sun at the trumpet call;
Lift your voice, it’s the year of jubilee,
And out of Zion’s hill salvation comes!!!!

Nando

If all of Math Man’s assumptions and calculations are correct then it means that we are well into the Tribulations. I have my objections that I expressed in an article yesterday about this timing. There are simply to many factors that must be fulfilled and that do not logically fit into those calculations.

Among the factors are the two witnesses and the 1/4 of humanity killed in the first four seals, plus all the earthquakes and disasters that happen in the seals. If each of the 7 seals, trumpets and cups of wrath were given equal time values the middle would be at the fourth trumpet, The witnesses are killed on the 6th trumpet after 1260 days of testimony. The sixth trumpet is close to the 4th but it implies that the two halves are about equal in the time allotted for each of the three seven’s of judgment.

We must look at the book of Revelation as well as the other books of the end time prophecies for timelines. Only the real timeline will work all the prophecies together in a perfect synchronicity of time and events.

Personally I believe it is all beyond the capabilities of any human to synchronize and take into account all that is pertinent and disregard all that is not.

Nevertheless your search is worthy of praise from us watchers and it confirms the unmistakable fact that Barack Hussein Obama is the Antichrist. This alone anchors our time to the period of the end times and the coming Rapture of the church.

Nando

http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/dec2011/mathman1223.htm

MathMan (23 Dec 2011)
“Why I agree that Ron Reese, Gerry AlmonWhy I agree that Ron Reese, Gerry Almond, MathMan and many others are COMPLETE & UTTER IDIOTS for believing that 2015 is the year of Christ’s return!!d, MathMan and many others are WRONG for believing that 2015 is the year of Christ’s return!!“

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 Dear Doves,

 

Before I even begin, I need to do something EXTREMELY IMPORTANT.  I want to sincerely apologize to each and every one of you on my incredibly poor communication style in outlining why I feel so strongly that 2015 is the year of Christ’s return.

 

When I re-read my previous posts, I realized that I accidentally made it seem like I did not agree that the traditional view of Daniel’s 70^th Week made any sense.  However, NOTHING can be further from the truth!!  Indeed, I believe that the traditional view is, BY FAR, THE most logical of all of the theories, exceeding in logic each and every one of the alternative theories that allow for a Post-Rapture Tribulation Period of less than 7 years.

 

To help illustrate that I fully understand what the commonly accepted theory on Daniel’s 70^th Week is, please allow me to reiterate the important points, in layman’s terms, of what I consider to be the best theory of them all:

 

-    The 70^th Week will represent the end of the age of grace in order to finish off the age of law that had been suspended when Jesus was resurrected

 

-    The 70^th Week’s primary purpose is to finalize unfinished business between God & Israel by completing the six stated goals in Daniel 9

 

-    The 70^th Week is still to come in its entirety, with a full 7 year period being required to do so making an abundance of sense, including many “types” in the Bible that mirror it’s logic (such as the Jewish wedding process)

 

-    The 70^th Week will be kicked off by the Anti-Christ, still a peaceful diplomat at this point, brokering (confirming) a 7 year (a week) peace treaty (covenant) between Israel and the world (the many)

 

-    Israel will fall for the Anti-Christ’s intoxicating charms hook line and sinker, and in the middle of the 7 years, the Anti-Christ will betray them mercilessly and persecute them through out the earth

 

Do I like this theory on Daniel 9?  Absolutely, it simply makes sense.  On a scale of 1 to 10 in logic, I would rate this theory a solid 10, with the alternative theories allowing for a Post-Rapture Tribulation Period of less than 7 years (which I have found to be plausible, but not as satisfying) rated, IMO, essentially no higher than a six.  However, my problem is that I simply can’t help but continue to be STUPID on this issue!!  Yes, and I mean it when I say I am being stupid on this subject!!

 

Given this perspective, you may ask yourself, why would I feel this way and yet keep pushing 2015?  I continue because I strongly believe that God, the creator of the largest Super Nova AND the tiniest single cell organism, has told us in the Bible what to look for with respect to the EXACT timing of the second return of His Son.  Not only that, but I believe that Israel-related events as they have already unfolded (and continue to unfold) completely back me up on this, as ADMITTEDLY “stupid” as these alternative theories sound.

 

I REALLY don’t want to be different than any of you.  NOT AT ALL.  I REALLY do like the commonly accepted theory on Daniel 9 the best.  You will get no argument from me on this.  However, please, I ask you with all of my heart; please pray on what I am about to outline and AT LEAST come to an understanding of why I am being so incredibly stupid on this issue.  You don’t have to agree with me.  I just REALLY want you to understand why I would “put myself out there” for something stupid if I didn’t have a SOLID mathematical reason pushing me to do so.

 

BUT FIRST, A VERY IMPORTANT DISCLAIMER:  Please note that I am a firm and unwavering believer in the Pre-Trib Rapture.  However, I no longer believe that the Post-Rapture Tribulation Period will be seven years.  Indeed, it APPEARS mathematically certain that the Post-Rapture Tribulation Period will actually be less than four years (including the 42 month Great Tribulation).  However, I must clarify without a doubt that I do not believe the Church will see God’s wrath nor be persecuted by the Anti-Christ.  In contrast, both Pre-Wrath & Mid-Trib (which I have been accused of on occasion) believe the Church will have to endure these things to a certain extent.  I absolutely do not believe we will have to endure these things AT ALL.  Indeed, I firmly believe in the Great Hope, promised by Jesus, that we, who truly believe and are counted worthy, will escape ALL THESE THINGS.  The Lord said it, I believe Him and so should you!!

 

On that note, please allow me to begin:

 

FORMULA 1:  THE PARABLE OF THE FIG TREE (Maximum Life)

 

Matthew 24: 32-34:  “Now learn a parable of the fig tree; When his branch is yet tender, and putteth forth leaves, ye know that summer is nigh:  So likewise ye, when ye shall see all these things, know that it is near, even at the doors.  Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled.”

 

Fact 1:  Every time the Bible talks about the “fig tree”, God is always referring to Israel

 

Fact 2:  The very first time that Israel first began to form was when the First Zionist Congress met from August 29^th to August 31^st in the year 1897, establishing the need and desire to reestablish Israel

 

Fact 3:  The goal of the 70^th Week is to perform the following six steps:

 

Daniel 9: 24:  “Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city, to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy.”

 

Fact 4:  The last of the six steps mentioned is “To anoint the most Holy.”

 

Fact 5:  “(T)he most Holy” can be no one else but Jesus

 

Generally Accepted Theory 1 (GAT1):  The first four Jewish feasts were directly used for the timing of the original demise and resurrection of Jesus.  Specifically, Passover, Feast of Unleavened Bread, Feast of First Fruits and Pentecost.  As such, it has been highly anticipated that the last four Jewish feasts will be used for the timing of the demise of the Anti-Christ and the subsequent establishment of the rule of Jesus.  Specifically, the Feast of Trumpets, the Day of Atonement, the Feast of Tabernacles and, finally, Hanukkah.

 

Generally Accepted Theory 2 (GAT2):  Most agree that Jesus will return to earth on the Feast of Trumpets

 

Generally Accepted Theory 3 (GAT3):  Most agree that Jesus will end the Great Tribulation, by sending the AC and False Prophet to the Lake of Fire, on the Day of Atonement, wherein Jesus will first arrive for this battle with His Army on the Feast of Trumpets just 10 days prior to the Anti-Christ’s defeat (the 10 Days of Awe)

 

Generally Accepted Theory 4 (GAT4):  The last feast is Hanukkah and many agree that this will represent the anointing festival of Jesus, the last of the six steps.  In multiple locations in the Bible, God has outlined that He will allow the Anti-Christ to remain as the World Leader for precisely 1260 days (the Great Tribulation), leading up to his ultimate defeat on the Day of Atonement.  When you subtract 1260 days from the Day of Atonement and add in 1335 days, you land exactly on Hanukkah.  This is the way these feasts were designed and establishes once again the importance of Hanukkah in the fulfillment of the final step.  Indeed, it would be a great blessing to those who love Jesus and survive the Great Tribulation to see His anointing as outlined in Daniel 12:12:  “Blessed is he that waiteth, and cometh to the thousand three hundred and five and thirty days.”

 

Fact 6:  God outlined the maximum length of time for “a generation” as specifically referenced in the verses in Matthew 24 quoted above as follows:

 

Genesis 6: 3:  “And the LORD said, My spirit shall not always strive with man, for that he also is flesh: yet his days shall be an hundred and twenty years.”

 

In other words, a limit of 120 years.  To establish this as a logical fact, please note that this matches the actual maximum life of a man or woman of 120 years as illustrated in modern actuarial tables on life spans.

 

Matthew 24: 32-34:  “Now learn a parable of the fig tree; When his branch is yet tender, and putteth forth leaves, ye know that summer is nigh:  So likewise ye, when ye shall see all these things, know that it is near, even at the doors.  Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled.”

 

FORMULA 1:  Now, please allow me to restate Matthew 24: 32-34 in my personal words, using the Facts & GATs outlined above, to establish Formula 1:  “Keep all eyes on Israel & Jerusalem as Israel & Jerusalem are the key to all prophecy and its timing;  As such, when you see Israel & Jerusalem start to come back together as a nation:  You will know that we are moving towards the establishment of Jesus as King of all:  Indeed, the generation that sees this start to happen will also see the last step of Daniel 9 occur, the anointing of Jesus at Hanukkah.”

 

Input into formula using actual historical events:  August 29 – 31, 1897 plus 120 years x prophetic years of 360 days each, lands precisely on December 7 – 9, 2015.  December 7 – 9, 2015 is directly within the eight days of Hanukkah 2015.  Hanukkah is celebrated for precisely 8 days.  On the other hand, there are 365 days in a given year other than leap years.  Therefore the odds of these calculated dates landing on Hanukkah simply being random versus planned by God from the beginning of time is:

 

ODDS FROM FORMULA 1:  8 out of 365 (2%)

 

FORMULA 2:  THE JUBILEE RETURN OF THE APPLE OF GOD’S EYE

 

Formula 1 MAY have established 2015 as being God’s planned year for the return of His Son.  If this is true, we now need to see if there is a second witness (there will actually be four witnesses).  This will rely on a Jubilee period as established in the Bible (take special note of the underlined parts):

 

Leviticus 25: 8-10:  “And thou shalt number seven sabbaths of years unto thee, seven times seven years; and the space of the seven sabbaths of years shall be unto thee forty and nine years. Then shalt thou cause the trumpet of the jubilee to sound on the tenth day of the seventh month, in the day of atonement shall ye make the trumpet sound throughout all your land. And ye shall hallow the fiftieth year, and proclaim liberty throughout all the land unto all the inhabitants thereof: it shall be a jubilee unto you; and ye shall return every man unto his possession, and ye shall return every man unto his family.”

 

Personal Theory 1 (PT1):  No one, including me, knows when Jubilee Periods (49 years), consisting of 7 Sabbatical Periods (7 years each), begin and end in modern times.  However, given that Jerusalem is the apple of God’s eye and He wants it back, would it not make sense that He would have been keeping track of these important time periods all of these centuries?

 

Generally Accepted Theory 5 (GAT5):  As outlined in Formula 1, it is generally accepted that the Anti-Christ will be defeated on the Day of Atonement.  This would be the precise day that the Lord would reclaim Jerusalem for His own and would clearly be a Jubilee event (“ye shall return… possession”)

 

Personal Theory 2 (PT2):    ASSUMING the results of Formula 1 are accurate in establishing 2015 as the year of the return of Jesus, we would expect to see the Anti-Christ defeated on the Day of Atonement 2015, which is September 23, 2015, in turn representing the final Jubilee event on the Day of Atonement, a perfect match to the requirements outlined in Leviticus 25: 8-10!!

 

Formula 2:  For any Day of Atonement to be logical for a Jubilee event, the applicable Day of Atonement should see a turnover event when it comes to Jerusalem exactly one Jubilee period before this.

 

CALCULATIONS:  Seven times seven years is equal to 49 years, or one complete Jubilee cycle.  49 years multiplied by a 360 day prophetic year, when subtracted from the Day of Atonement 2015 of September 23, 2015 falls directly on June 7, 1967 to the day.  NOW WATCH THIS!!  June 7, 1967 is the EXACT day that Israel reclaimed Jerusalem in the 1967 Six-Day War!!!!  In the Jewish calendar, a day begins the evening before.  Therefore, there are only two days that this beginning could have occurred and this is one of them.  Assuming the event occurred (Jerusalem being recaptured by the Jews), which we know it did, we have to calculate the number of days it could have occurred.  This is easy.  All we have to determine is the number of days from August 29, 1897 to September 23, 2015 to determine the number of days that Jerusalem could have been reclaimed by Israel.  This amounts to 43,125 days in total.  As such, this amounts to the astronomical odds of this simply being random of:

 

ODDS FROM FORMULA 2:  2 out of 43,125 (0.005%)

 

FORMULA 3:  THE 7 IN THE 7 + 62 OF THE 69 WEEKS

 

Daniel 9: 25:  “Know therefore and understand, that from the going forth of the commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem unto the Messiah the Prince shall be seven weeks, and threescore and two weeks: the street shall be built again, and the wall, even in troublous times”

 

Personal Theory 3 (PT3):  There is controversy over the split between the 7 and the 62, which in turn adds to 69 weeks.  In the first arrival, Jesus made His triumphant return to Jerusalem precisely 69 weeks of 2520 days in each week from the first decree to rebuild Jerusalem.  Some have speculated that the first part, the seven weeks, represents a completely separate prophecy related to his second arrival for His triumphant return to Jerusalem.  If this is truly a separate prophecy, given that Jewish days begin the evening before, such decree would have had to happen on June 7, 1967 or the day after, for it to be another signpost pointing towards the Day of Atonement 2015.

 

Fact 7:  That is exactly what happened.  In the first arrival of Jesus, all it took was a leader with the appropriate authority to declare that Jerusalem be rebuilt to start the 69 week countdown to the first return.  In a similar manner, the PM of Israel made the EXACT same kind of decree the very next day after the retaking of Jerusalem, on June 8^th of 1967 to be precise!!  But it wasn’t all of Jerusalem that had to be rebuilt, just the Jewish Quarter, also known as Old Jerusalem.  Ironically, this is the exact same portion ordered to be rebuilt that was used to prophesize the first time Jesus returned.  In fact, Old Jerusalem was so completely and utterly destroyed in 1948 in the Arab Israel War that a Jordan leader gloated that no Jew would ever return to the Jewish Quarter.

 

Calculation of Odds:  When Old Jerusalem was retaken, the people of the Israel elite force would be understandably excited.  Therefore, I would anticipate that such an announcement to rebuild would be made within the first 120 days (4 months) or so after Jerusalem was retaken while they were still in joyous celebration.  This certainly doesn’t seem unreasonable.  Therefore, it seems reasonable to assign the following odds for this to occur on the same day or the next day (2 days total):

 

ODDS FROM FORMULA 3:  2 out of 120 (1.7%)

 

FORMULA 4:  THE PARABLE OF THE FIG TREE (Average Life)

 

While we used 120 years from the First Zionist Congress to first establish 2015, there is a commonly held belief that the actual formation of Israel was the event that started off the time limit.  The commonly held timeframe for an average life as per the Bible is outlined as follows:

 

Psalm 90:10:  “The days of our years are threescore years and ten; and if by reason of strength they be fourscore years, yet is their strength labour and sorrow; for it is soon cut off, and we fly away.”

 

Isaiah 23:15:  “And it shall come to pass in that day, that Tyre shall be forgotten seventy years, according to the days of one king: after the end of seventy years shall Tyre sing as an harlot.”

 

Personal Theory 4 (PT4):  Given the historic precedents of the use of 70 year periods by the Lord when dealing with Israel, along with confirmation of a lifetime being 70 years in the above two passage, it seemed logical to continue its use.  Taking this 70 years and multiplying it by the 360-day year results in 25,200 days, or around 69 years.

 

Fact 8:  The U.N. just published a table outlining that the current world wide average life span is around 69 years.

 

Fact 9:  Israel became recognized as a nation by UN Resolution 181 on November 29, 1947 despite massive outrage from Muslim communities around the world and their Arab neighbors

 

Calculation of Odds:  This means that there is another possible limit of all being fulfilled being 25,200 days from November 29, 1947, equal to November 26, 2016.  However, Hanukkah 2016 doesn’t start until December 24, 2016.  This means the last Hanukkah before this is Hanukkah 2015, which was already established in Formula 1.  Therefore, tthe odds of this limit making so much sense and being such a perfect fit is only 1 year out of the 118 years from 1897 to 2015, resulting in

 

ODDS FROM FORMULA 4:  1 out of 118 (0.8%)

 

To summarize the results of these four formulas pointing directly towards 2015 as being the return of Jesus:

 

Formula 1:  8 out of 365

Formula 2:  2 out of 43,125

Formula 3:  2 out of 120

Formula 4:  1 out of 118

 

Combined, this works out to (8 x 2 x 2 x 1) out of (365 x 43,125 x 120 x 118) or 32 out of 221,666,000,000 or 1 out of 6,927,100,000, rounded down to 1 out of 6.9 billion!

 

As such, the odds of September 23, 2015 RANDOMLY pointing to the end of the Great Tribulation is only 1 out of 6.9 billion.  Therefore, the chances of September 23, 2015, the Day of Atonement 2015, being the precise day planned by the Lord for the demise of the Anti-Christ and the end of the Great Tribulation are an overwhelming 6,899,999,999 out of 6.9 billion!!

 

Oh please, I pray you see why I am being such a COMPLETE IDIOT on this issue!!  This is why I am in such a dilemma, especially given that I truly love the traditional interpretation of what the 70^th Week is SUPPOSED to look like MUCH MORE.  However, from the above calculations, it is mathematically conclusive that the Lord Himself is now allowing us to see that September 23, 2015, the Feast of Atonement, is the logical end date for the Anti-Christ, despite the fact it doesn’t fit the way we wanted or expected it to.

 

Daniel was told by the Angel Gabriel that many things would not be revealed until “the time of the end”.  We are now there. 1260 days prior to September 23, 2015 lands on April 11, 2012.  This, therefore, means that April 11, 2012 will be the beginning of the 1260-day Great Tribulation.  While there is an EXTREMELY SMALL chance that we may be wrong about this, the odds are astronomically stacked in favor of this timeline.

 

However, and more importantly to His Church, this means we now have but a few weeks left before we HAVE to be Raptured!!  While I hope the Rapture will happen before the end of today, it is all but mathematically certain that the Rapture HAS to occur by April 11, 2012 as the Church will NOT be here for the Great Tribulation, or during any end-time tribulation for that matter.  Unfortunately for those taught to believe otherwise, there is absolutely not enough time for the commonly accepted seven year Post-Rapture Tribulation Period to transpire.

 

Now just imagine if I factored in the Tetrad Lunar Eclipses of 2014 / 2015, along with the many other signs we know about, such as the 777.68 DOW index point drop (the greatest in history) on the Feast of Trumpets 2008 and the rise of the most Anti-Semitic powerful leader in history (look at his actions NOT his words).  Factoring this in, along with the many other signs, would result in the 6,899,999,999 out of 6.9 billion becoming even more amazing.  Again, please pray on it with an open mind and an open heart!!  Even someone without any math background will see how compelling the above argument is in favor of the Day of Atonement 2015 being the end date for the Antichrist!!  HOWEVER, BE JOYFUL – this is AWESOME news!!

In conclusion, I only look for approval from my Lord & Savior.  Nonetheless, I am only human and like it when others accept what I have to say (I would be lying if I said otherwise).  As such, it is my deep hope that you will read the above and at least understand WHY I am choosing to be such a COMPLETE IDIOT as to the feeling that I have of HAVING to question the traditional theory on what the 70^th Week is supposed to look like.  Quite simply, the math requires it.  I didn’t make the news, I am merely reporting it.

 

To God be ALL the glory!!!  He is at the door!!  Maranatha!!

 

YbiC, MathMan

Nando

Math Man has put on an article with compelling evidence that points to Barack Obama being the Antichrist. This time he has not used math but a close relative which is logic and observation.

I like Math Man also know that he is the Antichrist. I am also good at math and science since I am a practicing Civil-Structural engineer. It is important to understand that even if you do not agree on all his conclusions and math the fact remains that the overwhelming evidence that this man is the Antichrist can not be denied.

Once this fact is accepted then the rest of the prophetic material must come to pass.

I for one can see all the evidence that he has presented and still not reach the conclusion that we are in the Tribulation period since the infomercial in October of 2008. For me the planetary evidence is irrefutable evidence of his identity as the Antichrist.

The Tetrad of blood moon eclipses that correspond with passover and Sukkot for 2014 and 2015 are signs in the heavens that also confirm his identity.

In Math Man calculations he goes back from the feast of Yom Kippur Sept 23 2015, but the blood moon is on Sept 28 2015 and if we go back 2520 days it falls on Nov 3, 2008 one day before the election that crowned him president of the USA.

http://www.timeanddate.com/date/dateadd.html

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From date:Wednesday, September 28, 2011

Subtracted 2520 days

Resulting date: Wednesday, November 3, 2004

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At the time I thought this was the opening of the first seal, but one thing kept bothering me then as it does now and it is the appearance of the two witnesses of Revelation chapter 11. I could see by the way that it is wrtten that their death occurs before the wrath judgments and that implies the first 1260 days of Tribulation.

Please also observe the protection of Israel in the desert for another 1260 days that comes after the death of the two witnesses.

Do we have all the data yet, I do not think so, but we are very close, I can not see the president risking going to the next election with all that is known about this man. As a conclusion what he got from the USA in this first period is all he can obtain by chicanery and deceit now comes what he will usurp by force, that is war in big scale.

Nando

http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/dec2011/mathman1222.htm

MathMan (22 Dec 2011)
“President Obama – The Great Chameleon“ 

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Nando

Today I received an e-mail from Mr. Ron Reese and I am including it in here.

There is a point that I think is very important and that I have not seen Ron address in any of his writings and that is the two witnesses of chapter 11 of Revelation. The context of the writing makes it clear that their testimony is for 1260 days and that it ends in the sixth seal. Further on there is another 1260 days introduced where Israel is to be protected in the desert from the Beast. From these two dates that are clearly consecutive in fulfillment, the start of the witnesses testimony must be on the first day of the Tribulations. Where are they if we are already in the Tribulations.

I believe that most if not all the things that Mr. Reese has stated can still be true if the Apocalypse were to start on  the date 11/11/11. The treaty may come out of the UN with the acceptance of the state of Palestine and Obama may still surprise us on that date. The first seal may also be broken in Heaven by Jesus giving authority to the white horse the Antichrist to go out to conquer. All this is of course conjectures on my part based on educated prophetic interpretations.

Thanks Ron for your time and dedication to our Lord Jesus and to his church,

Nando

Nando

Two days ago I received an e-mail from Mr. Ron Reese that I am posting here after some comments.

First Ron is a dedicated believer that is trying to interpret the prophecies concerning the end times as many of us are. As involved as these prophecies are and with our opaque looking glasses (sin) on it is difficult to agree in all things. He has linked the coming of Jesus for His church to the time of Noah. This is a valid assumption as others also are. It could turn out to be right.

He also reasons validly that the second seal the big sword on the rider of the red horse has not occurred and could happen on the 11/11/11 along with the Rapture. This is also possible for all the reasons he give3s in the article.

On the first seal having been opened in October 28 of 2008 I do not think this is correct.

It is my belief that the Apocalypse will start in these days we are in before the year ends and when it starts we will see a covenant signed by the Antichrist, which in this we think alike, Obama and the twoo witnesses will start their 1260 days of testimony. I find it difficult to see how the church and the two witnesses can be acting simultaneously or in tanden.

Nando

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Nando

 

This study by Jean Stepanosky is about the feast of Yom Kippur as related to Rosh Hashnna and the Rapture.

My opinion on this study is that if Jesus second coming is to be on the feast of Yom Kippur of 2018 then the beginning of  the Apocalypse is on the same date in 2011 and the Rapture is to be in or before that date.

The beginning of the seven year Tribulation is also related to the treaty or covenant the Antichrist (Barack Hussein Obama) makes with Israel and many plus the appearance of the two witnesses on that date.

It is obvious that if we see these two things happen that we know that we are in the Tribulation. Consequently the Rapture should happen before.

The reader must understand that The prophecies of the Bible are placed with dates that are very specific in their fulfillment and once they happen we can see the specificity of the date, but before it happens it is not as easily discernible. the obvious case in point is Daniels prophecy of the seventy weeks of years that pedicted the first coming of Jesus exactly to the date, but was not discerned by the Jewish priests or the Nation of Israel when it happened.

As such it is with the second coming and the prophecy of Matthew 24: 32-35. In this case the generation is the time specific event, but a generations age could be fulfilled in various amount of years, from a minimum of 40 years to a maximum of 120 years with the most possible dates being 40 or 70 years from the fig tree beginning to put forth leaves (Israel birth May 14, 1948).

So there you have it in a nut shell, the maximum span for the starting of the Tribulations is passed once the fall feast of the year 2011 are passed.

Nando

http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/oct2011/jeans104.htm

Jean Stepnoski (4 Oct 2011)
“Two Studies About Yom Kippur“

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Dear Doves,
There are two studies about Yom Kippur which I will be reading and studying this week. According to the Hillel Calendar, Yom Kippur will be 10-7 to 8. According to the sighting of the moon from Israel on 9-29, that would place Yom Kippur one day later, from 10-8 to 9.
One of these studies is available at www.mayimhayim.org/Festivals/Feast8.htm which is a book excerpt from a book by Eddie Chumney. It is ten pages and gives a fine overview of the importance of Yom Kippur. The other is a posting from five doves on 10-6-2005. It is by Arlene at archives at the following website and is  8 pages at www.his-forever.com/yom_kippur_rapture.htm. One of the things she notes is the need to complete 40 days of repentance and teshuvah until Yom Kippur rather than after the 30 days of Elul at Rosh Hashanah (The Feast of Trumpets) 10 days earlier. The number 40 is The Scriptures is about a period of preparation and/or repentance. The life of Moses of 120 years was in three 40 year periods. There were 40 years in the wilderness and 40 years between the Ascension and the destruction of Jerusalem in 70 AD. The Master had 40 days of preparation before His public ministry began. There were 40 days and nights of rain in the times of Noah. Ninevah was given 40 days to repent after the preaching of Jonah. The sign of Jonah was 3 days or 40 days. There were 40 days from The Feast of First Fruits until Christ’s Ascension. The concept of 40 is very significant in The Scriptures. It can be argued that the most important 40 day period in The Scriptural Year, begun at Nisan 1, would be from Elul 1 to Tishri 10 (Yom Kippur).
As I have noted in posts in recent years at Doves, Rosh Hashanah is not complete until Yom Kippur. They are connected to each other in a process of 10 days and days 30 to 40 and 40 days. As Arlene noted, Yom Kippur is THE DAY of REPENTANCE for THE REDEEMED! What are most of the houses of faith, the congregations, told to do in The Book Of Revelation? They are commanded by Christ to repent. REPENT! Eddie Chumney notices that one of the phrases for Yom Kippur is “THE DAY.” This is the phrase used about the times of Noah or Lot by Messiah/Christ! “They knew not until the day that Noah entered the ark.” Paul noted that some would “see the day approaching” and we have that phrase again of “the day.” The Scriptures note that “the day” is about Yom Kippur. Perhaps The Master using the phrase “the day” would have been understood by those of His times as relating to Yom Kippur, but not recognized by people in our times? First was “the day” in the times of the family Noah, then “the day” in the times of the family Lot, then “the day” for the Repentant and Redeemed of Messiah/Christ? Is Yom Kippur the link and THE DAY for us?
I hope many Doves will be blessed in reading these two studies. For Jews and Gentiles alike, Yom Kippur is well worth our understanding. If it is “THE DAY” linked to The Blessed Hope, the apostacia ( the departure) then it is ALL IMPORTANT! Come quickly, Lord… May we be WATCHING!

With Love and Shalom,
Jean

Nando

August 1, 2011

It gives me great joy to write the introduction to this study “the Ages to Come” by pastor F.M. Riley. For the past two plus hours I have been unable to lift my eyes away from my monitor and stop reading.

Pastor Riley has a complete control of the material he has written and has made his conclusions upon careful study of the word of God.

Every believer in Jesus Christ should make an effort to read the study and to digest all the material that is presented in here.

He has covered the five first resurrections in a clear and concise manner that leaves the reader with a scriptural understanding of the resurrections and Rapture.

Click on the link to go to the study.

Thank you pastor Riley,

Nando

http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/aug2011/fmriley81.htm

F.M. Riley (1 Aug 2011)
“The Ages to Come…..“

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The Ages to Come…..

By Pastor F. M. Riley

July 30, 2011

Nando

I have enjoyed reading this article by Eliane B. which is probably the correct view of the plan for the church of Christ.

If this view is correct the first Rapture occurs before the seven year Tribulation starts and it could be on Pentecost of this year which is at the end of this month as the article states. The second Rapture if it happens before the seventh trumpet of Revelation must be at the end of the 1,260 days when the two witnesses are killed and are resurrected three days after.

At this point we must consider the remaining humans left on earth and see how they will be seen by Jesus. In Revelation 20:4 listed below we see another resurrection and this happens after Satan, the Antichrist and the False Prophet are dealt with so the seven years are over. Is this the third resurrection? A few verses after it states that this is the first resurrection.

http://niv.scripturetext.com/revelation/20-1.htm

4I saw thrones on which were seated those who had been given authority to judge. And I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded because of their testimony for Jesus and because of the word of God. They had not worshiped the beast or his image and had not received his mark on their foreheads or their hands. They came to life and reigned with Christ a thousand years. 5(The rest of the dead did not come to life until the thousand years were ended.) This is the first resurrection. 6Blessed and holy are those who have part in the first resurrection. The second death has no power over them, but they will be priests of God and of Christ and will reign with him for a thousand years.

We also must deal with the sheep and the goats listed on Matthew 25:31 to the end. Obviously the sheep did not follow the Antichrist, but are they believers in Christ or are they being judged on their works exclusively as the text seems to imply?

It is a complicated subject and I want to thank all those involved in this interchange of ideas for making their thoughts available to others.

Nando

http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/july2011/elianeb725-2.htm

Nando

Eliane B (25 July 2011)
“Why I think the Judgment Seat of Christ can’t happen before the last Tribulation Saint arrives in Heaven“

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Dear Doves,

I believe that the Judgment Seat of Christ can only happen after the last saved person arrives in Heaven. So, in my opinion, that Judgment only takes place after the last Tribulation Saint arrives in Heaven, so that the entire Body of Christ is present in the Judgment Seat.

So even if one doesn’t believe that the Body of Christ is taken to Heaven (if not via death) by means of more than one Rapture (being the first one the Rapture of the ones who are ready at the time of the First Trump and the other one the Rapture of the surviving Tribulation Saints at the Last Trump), even if one prefers to believe that there is only one rapture, the Judgment Seat has to wait for the last Tribulation Saint alive on Earth to be translated to Heaven via death, which only happens many years after the First Rapture.

I think that 1 Thess 4:16-17 refers to the pretrib Rapture:

16 “For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the TRUMP OF GOD: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: 17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.”

Notice that the event being described above doesn’t mention the word “last trump”, but “Trump of God”.

1 Cor 15:51-52 refers to the last Rapture after the shortened Tribulation and just before the Wrath of God is poured on Earth.

51 “Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed, 52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the LAST TRUMP: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed. 53 For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality”

Marilyn Agee said in one of her posts: “The first trump is blown with the left horn of the ram Abraham sacrificed instead of Isaac (Gen 22:13). The last trump is blown with the right horn of the ram. The Rabbis blow the FIRST TRUMP, the left horn, on PENTECOST, and the LAST TRUMP, the right horn, on the FEAST OF TRUMPETS. It is easy to tell that the LAST-TRUMP RAPTURE will be on Trumpets (Joel 2:1-2), so why wouldn’t the FIRST-TRUMP RAPTURE come on Pentecost? “

I believe that the First Trump Rapture is on Pentecost (the correct date, whatever it is) and the Last Trump Rapture is on Rosh Hoshana / Feast of Trumpets / Yom Teruah. If I believed there was only one Rapture, the Feast of Trumpets would be the unquestionably the best candidate for the event.

The reasons I’m a proponent for Pentecost for the first and pretrib Rapture are:

- Pentecost has to do with the timing of the God espousing the Israelites at Sinai (when the Law was received by them)

- Pentecost is described I Scriptures as the First Trump

- Pentecost was the day the Church received the Holy Spirit and was “officially” baptized, althouth I think the Church was actually born when blood and water poured from the side of Jesus.

- Pentecost is the timing of the end of the barley AND wheat harvest (as described in Ruth 2:23) and this was the timing of the Kinsman Redeemer espousing her (a gentile bride, like the majority of the Church).

The reason the Feast of Trumpets is the best candidate for the last and pre-wrath Rapture are:

- Feast of Trumpets has to do with JUDGMENT

- Feast of Trumpets is Coronation day (Psalms 98:6)

- Feast of Trumpets is the Last Trump

- The last Trump is the last trumpet that sounds gathering the elect, the Tribulation Saints, “of those days” (Mt 24:29&31). This final rapture is described in 1 Cor 15:51-52.

- After this final rapture, death for the Body of Christ (now complete in Heaven, made up of the Bride and the Tribulation Saints) will be swallowed up forever in victory. The victory was already won at the cross, but will be enforced after the Last Trump Rapture.

1 Cor 15:53 can’t be referring to the pretrib Rapture because if it did, then no Tribulation Saint would be able to die after that Rapture, because the verse says that Death will be swallowed up in victory. So I believe that the entire Body of Christ must be united and complete in Heaven (which is possible only after the Last Tribulation saint arrives in Heaven either through death or through the Last Trump Rapture) for Death to be swallowed up in victory.

Again: Death is not swallowed up until the resurrection of the last believer! This is why I believe that 1 Cor 15 is not talking about the First Trump / Pretrib Rapture.

The scripture “But we shall ALL be changed” in 1 Cor 15 makes many serious Bible students infer that this verse proves that all believers are changed at the same time and therefore there must be only one rapture and one resurrection.  But what the verse says is: “we shall ALL be changed”, not “we shall all be changed at the same time”.

What I understand it is saying is that at that point in time when the last rapture occurs, ALL at that point shall have been changed. The overcoming bride had already been changed, given their resurrected bodies previously at the pretrib rapture (First Trump) and now the Tribulation Saints are being changed and receiving the resurrected bodies at the end of the shortened Tribulation. Together, they make up the whole body of Christ who are ALL changed at this final rapture.

It’s important to understand that the First Resurrection in Rev. 20:6 is illustrated in 1 Cor 15:22.26, when we see a discussion of resurrection in which a sequence of different phases or ranks of the resurrection of believers is pointed out, in addition to a reference to when the unbelievers are resurrected.

1 Cor 15:22 says: For in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all (the Bride and the Tribulation Saints) be made alive.

23 But every man in his own order (from the Greek ‘tagma’, “a series or sucession”, “rank”): Christ, the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ’s at his coming.

(note 1: the verb “coming” above can be also translated as “appearing”, in Greek.)

(note 2: there is no punctuation in the originals in Greek or Hebrew. The commas or lack of commas were added or omitted by translators)

The first resurrection happens in three different stages of phases at three different times. A few, that were part of Jesus’s sheaf (omer), were resurrected and changed with Jesus in the year of the crucifixion (probably 32 A.D.) and were taken to Heaven in their new changed bodies on the Feast of Firstruits (the 16^th of Nisan, the day after the Sabbath, when the firstfruits of the barley harvest were being lifted up and waved by the Priest).

The bride, another type of the firstfruits (now from the end of the barley and wheat harvest), is raptured and resurrected before the Tribulation, probably on the Feast of Pentecost, when the Priest lifted up and waved two loaves of bread to the Father at the end of the barley AND wheat harvest. We have reasons to believe that the correct date for Pentecost is the 29^th of Tammuz, which in 2011 will fall on July 31^st/August 1^st.

And the Tribulation Saints, those that are His at His appearing, are raptured and resurrected at the conclusion of the shortened Tribulation, before the Seventh Seal is opened and the Wrath of God is poured on Earth.

The Feast of Trumpets seems to be the day of the resurrection / rapture of the Tribulation Saints (the last phase of the first resurrection which is separated by “tagmas”, “order”, “ranks”), which are typified by the Days of Lot (Lot and his family were removed from Sodom by angels, instants before fire and brimstone fell on Sodom and Gomorra). On that very same day, the 7^th and last Seal will be opened and the Wrath of God is poured on Earth. There is Judgment on Earth (the Wrath of God) and Judgment in  Heaven (the Judgment Seat of Christ, which is not for condemnation of anyone, but for very important decisions regarding roles in the Kingdom, as well as rewards that Our Lord chooses to give). On that same day (Yom Teruah), Christ will be coronated King (probably the moment of half an hour of silence)  and the Wedding Supper of the Lamb will be served to all believers that are present in Heaven. These seem to be the events on Yom Teruah, Feast of Trumpets.

This interpretation reconciles the fact that Yom Teruah is a Feast that involves Judgment, Coronation, Wedding (in this case, the Wedding Feast, not the wedding itself) and also a huge event happening on Earth that will unleash a renovation of the planet (in its anniversary).

In my view, the Judgment Seat can’t happen before all saints are united in Heaven as the complete Body of Christ.

I also think that the Second Coming happens a few months after the Wrath of God is poured on Earth.

Love in Christ,

Eliane

Nando