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Bruce Turner (5 Dec 2009) “Isaiah 18 and the Future of America”

twelvebooks — Mon, 07 Dec 2009 04:40:10 +0000

The post by Bruse Turner refers to Isaiah 18 and identifies the four nations mentioned there.

Under the heading of the attack happens in the future he metions Isaiah 18:3

Isaiah 18:3
All ye inhabitants of the world, and dwellers on the earth, see ye, when he lifteth up an ensign on the mountains; and when he bloweth a trumpet, hear ye.

and further down he mentions Strong’s word 5375

The word used for lifted up is nasa (naw-saw’) (Strong’s word 5375) which is a primitive root; meaning to lift, in a great variety of applications

Well I have also heard this interpretation of this nation as being the USA and in the past I saw this part to mean that the ensign on the mountains was when we placed the ensign on the moon. The word nasa is the name of the space program that put the men there to place the ensign.

Also the article mentions Dr. Charles Taylor and the book World War Three and the Destiny of America which I read and have talked about in here in my past posts.

Dr. Taylor was an excellent prophesy teacher and at the time he was alive I did not miss any of his TV programs and read most of his books.

Nando

http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/dec2009/brucet125-1.htm

Bruce Turner (5 Dec 2009)
“Isaiah 18 and the Future of America“

Isaiah 18 and the Future of America

About 12 years ago while studying the Bible looking in the Book of Isaiah, Chapter 18,
I realized that it was about America. So I researched it extensively to make sure that my assumption was correct. It was correct, you can research it for yourself if you like. I was going to write a post about Isaiah 18 and put it here on the Doves. So I went on line to see if I could find any additional information on Isaiah 18 before I started writing my post. And I discovered this website which has an extensive information and excellent outline on Isaiah 18. If you are like me and have a burning desire always learn as much as you can about God’s word, especially about prophecy. Then you owe it to yourself to go on the site and check it out.

So I decided to take the easy way out and provide the link to this website, rather than spend a lot of time writing a post that says pretty much the same thing. I didn’t see the author’s name anywhere on the site, but he did an excellent job. Read all the headings and their information on the link. And then go to the far left side in the dark blue, start there and click FIRST on “There are Four Countries not One” and continue down with the rest of the links. Enjoy, and God Bless Everyone.

http://www.isaiah18.com/index.html

YBIC
Bruce Turner

Dec 6, 2009 Is year 2009 equal to year 2012? Rapture this year?

twelvebooks — Sun, 06 Dec 2009 17:51:48 +0000

Dec 6, 2009 Is year 2009 equal to year 2012?
The article linked below shows how the year we are right now can truly be the year 2012 and goes to further discuss the possibility that the Rapture of the church will occur on the 11/12 of this month. His points are interesting and possible.

The article was posted by Taylor ( http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/dec2009/dec.htm )with the title Rapture High Alert Week of December 11,2009. Good post Taylor

Nando

http://docs.google.com/View?id=dccrtmkg_44fbd95jg3

RAPTURE OF THE CHURCH

FALL 2009

WHAT IF IT IS REALLY 2012 RIGHT NOW? …Joseph Blackmon

Joseph Blackmon (19 Nov 2009)
“”WHAT IF IT IS REALLY “2012″; RIGHT NOW?”"

Dec 6, 2009 Recent World Events Indicate Impending Market Chaos

twelvebooks — Sun, 06 Dec 2009 15:35:18 +0000

http://neithercorp.us/npress/?p=199

Recent World Events Indicate Impending Market Chaos

By Giordano Bruno

Neithercorp Press – 12/1/2009

Erik Slapp (5 Dec 2009) “Obama’s School Czar MUST READ – Warning Explicit Reading!”

twelvebooks — Sun, 06 Dec 2009 14:00:24 +0000

http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/dec2009/eriks125-1.htm

Erik Slapp (5 Dec 2009)
“Obama’s School Czar MUST READ – Warning Explicit Reading!“

http://rightsoup.com/obamas-safe-schools-czar-promoting-porn-in-the-classroom/

This stuff is just plain sickening and it will be hitting shelves at all public schools very very soon!

If you can take it look at just a few of the following stories in a few books chosen out of 100’s of books.

Books can be read at bottom of article

Mama’s Boy, Preacher’s Son – Pages 90, 91 + 92
(Kevin Jennings recounts his early sexual experiences with a boy named Mike.)

The Full Spectrum – Pages 227 + 228

Queer 13 – Page 17

Revolutionary Voices – Pages 171, 172 + 176

Reflections of a Rock Lobster – Page 13

Dec 4, 2009 The Rapture what ? who ? when ?

twelvebooks — Fri, 04 Dec 2009 20:25:02 +0000

In the past days the site www.fivedoves.com has seen several discussions about the people involved in the Rapture and the timing of this event. Today the following article was posted by Mr. Heckle. It is a good study about the Rapture, the whom, the when and all the things past, present and future concerning the Rapture.

There are three articles, all are related, good Rapture-Resurrection studies.

Nando

Kevin Heckle (4 Dec 2009)
“To: Barry Admundsen RE: Your Biblical Proof of Two Raptures”

To: Barry Admundsen

RE: Your Biblical Proof of Two Raptures

Barry,

While debate on the timing of the Rapture has been waged for hundreds of years, this paradigm in which you espouse TWO raptures is particularly disturbing. If you read my post of December 3, you would know how vehemently I believe that theory is tantamount to a doctrine of the devil. Not that I’m calling you of the devil, as your position in Christ is between you and the Lord. However, when we as Christians see something advertised openly as truth that is so much in contrast with the true Gospel, it is compulsory that we rebuke the lie. I will not apologize or ‘go easy’ for defending the Gospel. We should not be mediocre defenders, especially in these times. I applaud Rick Hedrick for first calling out this misnomer of a split-rapture that runs counter to the Gospel as I also explained in my post yesterday.

http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/dec2009/kevinh123.htm

In your response to Rick Hedrick you were ‘happy to oblige’ his challenge to produce a Scriptural basis. http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/dec2009/barrya123.htm

You cited I Corinthians 15, particularly verse 23: But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ’s at his coming.

The context of this passage is; Paul explaining the resurrection of the dead, as verse 12 reports that some didn’t believe in the resurrection. In verses 13-17, Paul explains that if there were no resurrection, Christ could not have risen. If Christ did not rise from the dead, then our faith is vain and we are still in our sins. Verse 18 then concludes that those believers in Christ which have died (fallen asleep) are perished and would also be without hope. In verse 19 Paul explains that if we have hope only in a Christ, NOT resurrected, we are men MOST miserable. Verse 20 proclaims though that CHRIST BECAME THE FIRSTFRUITS OF THOSE WHO HAD SLEPT. But now is Christ risen from the dead, and become the firstfruits of them that slept.

Verses 21-22 explain that everyone dies. Sin entered into the world by the first man (ADAM) and therefore death. By a man (CHRIST), also came the first resurrection from the dead.

You underlined the next words in verse 23 as proof of two raptures: But every man in his own order: Why not 10 or 20 different raptures? as there are surely more than two tiers of Christians in that view. The actual intent of these words have nothing to do with two raptures, rather first Christ (the FIRSTFRUITS) was resurrected, and afterward they that are HIS at HIS COMING shall be resurrected. ‘They that are His’ include ALL those in the faith at the time of the harvest. Verse 20 explains WHO is the FIRSTFRUITS, in the context of this passage, and it is JESUS alone. He rose first as the FIRSTFRUITS. We rise (in order) second. To equate yourself in the context of this passage with the ‘firstfruits’ is to equate yourself with Christ. He was the first risen INCORRUPTIBLE and we who are SAVED will be either RESURRECTED incorruptible or CHANGED incorruptible according to whether or not our body is sleeping at that moment, in the ‘twinkling of an eye’.

Verse 24: ‘Then cometh the end’

Hebrews 9:27 And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment:

You cited these verses 39-42 of I Corinthians 15.

39. All flesh is not the same flesh: but there is one kind of flesh of men, another flesh of beasts, another of fishes, and another of birds.

40. There are also celestial bodies, and bodies terrestrial: but the glory of the celestial is one, and the glory of the terrestrial is another.

41. There is one glory of the sun, and another glory of the moon, and another glory of the stars: for one star differeth from another star in glory.

42. So also is the resurrection of the dead.

However, you omitted the last part of verse 42 AS IF the first part of the verse concluded a rank and file system of believers in the resurrection. The second half of the verse is the conclusion, which is further elaborated upon in the verses 43-50, which is this:

Vs. 43-45 So also is the resurrection of the dead. It is sown in corruption; it is raised in incorruption: It is sown in dishonour; it is raised in glory: it is sown in weakness; it is raised in power: It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body. And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam (second man Jesus) was made a quickening spirit.

There are two types of BODIES: the corruptible (natural, flesh and blood) and the incorruptible (a spiritual body). Paul explains in verse 51, the mystery regarding those believers who are still living in their corruptible body at the time of the last trump which will be CHANGED into their incorruptible bodies during that which we call the RAPTURE (first those asleep shall rise incorruptible).

As for your Harvest analogy, Jesus uses one also in Matthew 13:36-43

Then Jesus sent the multitude away, and went into the house: and his disciples came unto him, saying, Declare unto us the parable of the tares of the field. He answered and said unto them, He that soweth the good seed is the Son of man; The field is the world; the good seed are the children of the kingdom; but the tares are the children of the wicked one; The enemy that sowed them is the devil; the harvest is the end of the world; and the reapers are the angels. As therefore the tares are gathered and burned in the fire; so shall it be in the end of this world. The Son of man shall send forth his angels, and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that offend, and them which do iniquity; And shall cast them into a furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth. Then shall the righteous shine forth as the sun in the kingdom of their Father. Who hath ears to hear, let him hear.

The ONLY differentiation between peoples that Jesus makes is those that are the WHEAT (the children of the Kingdom) and the TARES (the children of the devil).

ALL HAVE SINNED. ALL MEANS ALL. ALL the born again (children of the kingdom) are made incorruptible ONLY BY CHRIST’S WORK.

Matthew 13:30 Let both grow together until the harvest: and in the time of harvest I will say to the reapers, Gather ye together first the tares, and bind them in bundles to burn them: but gather the wheat into my barn.

We who are the wheat (children of the kingdom) will be gathered into HIS barn while the tares are burned.

Those tares, which Jesus NEVER KNEW grown by the seeds sewn by the devil, suffer ALL the Tribulation judgments and destruction isolated (bundled) here on earth. The wheat, those who grew out of the good seed sewn by Jesus (Children of the KING and His KINGDOM) are gathered into His BARN!!!!!

How miserable and hopeless would us second rate Christians be IF there were a SPLIT rapture of the Saved. There is no second rate salvation, thus no second rate rapture. It is an idea counter to the Gospel, counter to the Word of God. ALL CHILDREN OF THE KING HAVE A FIRST CLASS TICKET!

In Christ, (BY HIS GRACE)

Kevin Heckle

This other article is a letter to Kevin

http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/dec2009/rickh124.htm

Rick Hedrick (4 Dec 2008)
“Simple Gospel, simple Rapture……..“

First, John Tng is correct in saying that understanding the Rapture is not essential to ones spiritual welfare, whereas responding to the Gospel message is. We certainly cannot get to Heaven without understanding and believing the Gospel message. Although it is a very simple message, as is the Rapture message, it has been misunderstood by many. The case of the thief on the cross next to Jesus shows just how simple and basic are God’s requirements for our salvation. All the guy had to do was admit that he deserved his punishment, but Jesus didn’t. After proclaiming this, he asked Jesus to remember him when He (Jesus) came into His Kingdom. That was it! That’s all it took for Jesus to say “Today thou shalt be with me in Paradise.” How much simpler can it be?? And the well known verse of John 3:16 also states just how simple the Gospel message is. Its beauty and glory are in the very simplicity of it!! Yet there are those who insist on complicating it by not only adding a list of further requirements other than just believing, but who are determined to also add the contradictory notion that it is possible to lose one’s salvation.

The message of the Rapture, likewise, is a very simple message. All who become saved following the resurrection of Jesus will be taken with Him to Heaven when He returns for His Bride prior to the commencement of the 70th week of God’s redemptive plan for Israel. God’s plan for His Church is very simple, in contrast to His plan for Israel. And the contrast is intentional. The Old Testament Law is very complicated, and Israel’s redemption is very complicated. But in contrast, God’s grace to the New Testament believer is very simple and their redemption is very simple. Is it not logical that Satan would want the Christian to doubt that God’s grace to the believer could be so simple and unconditional. Doesn’t it make sense that he would want the Christian to believe that salvation, and God’s plan for His Church, is complicated? He knows that this would make some not even want to be a Christian, and others to feel the need to take over where God’s grace allegedly falls short. He knows that it is to his benefit when believers are convinced that God’s grace and His promises to believers are not unconditional. It misdirects the believers faith. He would much rather the Christian have faith in their own abilities and attempts to please God rather than in God’s ability to keep His promises to them in spite of their short-comings. Satan loves it when the believer doubts both the unconditionality of God’s grace, and their own worth in God’s eyes. It goes against the grain of the whole Gospel concept to believe that: 1) salvation can be lost, and 2) that a believer may not make it as Christ comes to Rapture His Bride.

I appreciate the comments of those who are in agreement on this. And I respect the rights of those who believe otherwise to do so. Some very good observations were made in response to my previous post, and I rejoice in knowing that others are able to see the beauty in the simplicity and absoluteness of God’s grace to the believer. My intention is not to convey that one’s salvation is dependant upon understanding the truth about the Rapture. Rather, my intention is to convey that one’s understanding of the Rapture is based on one’s understanding of the Gospel message. Its all part of the same Gift to those who believe. The Gift begins with salvation, continues with the Rapture, and is eternally refreshed forever after. And all one has to do is believe!! We can either taint it all with self-imposed and deceptive complications, or we can humbly admit that we are in need of the fullness of God’s grace, that we can offer nothing of our own merit as a means of influencing God. To the believer who does good works He promised rewards upon entering Heaven. But to the believer per se, He promised eternal salvation, which includes the guarantee of going to Heaven when Christ comes for his Bride.

To Barry Amundsen, I appreciate your attempt to demonstrate where Paul allegedly speaks of two Raptures. What you actually did was explain your interpretation of passages in which you have imposed the theory of two Raptures. You are confusing Rapture with resurrection. The points you are making have to do with resurrection, and it is true that there will be more than one resurrection. But there is only one Rapture. The Rapture includes one of the resurrections, but it is more than just a resurrection. The Rapture is when Christ comes for His Bride. This includes both living and dead Christians. The part of the Bride who is dead will be resurrected, and the part of the Bride who is living will be transformed. There are resurrections of the dead prior to the Rapture, and there will be resurrections after the Rapture. But as for living humans being transformed into glorified bodies without experiencing death first, this happens once and only once. (Of course there are the cases of Elijah and Enoch, but I believe God has special plans for them. I believe that they will be the 2 witnesses because the two witnesses die and are resurrected. They didn’t actually skip death, their death was just postponed until the Tribulation period. Moses, who some believe will be one of the witnesses, has already died once. How can he die again in the Tribulation?) If you care to, please comment on what else I said in my post, in particular the last 2 paragraphs.

To Kevin Heckle, you are calling the raising of the saved dead a Rapture and the transformation of the living a Rapture. This is only one Rapture, as I explained above. It includes a resurrection of the dead believers and a transformation of the dead and the living believers.

Lewis Brackett (4 Dec 2009)
“Maryilyn, David -2 Raptures-2 pillars ?? imho, NO“

Maryilyn, David -2 Raptures-2 pillars ?? IMHO, NO …. By Lewis Brackett

Marilyn Said:

“”””I Thess 4:16,17 describes the First-Trump Rapture of the wise virgins, the Bride of Christ. These are caught up to Heaven in Rev. 4:1. They witness Christ being given the 7 sealed Title Deed of the Earth. Then they sing the NEW SONG in Rev. 5:9.

I Cor 15:51,52 describes the Last-Trump Rapture of the foolish virgins, the 144,000 Israelites and other Tribulation saints. Of these, only the 144,000 will be added to the Bride group.Its about Dispensationalism

I just rewrote this for brethren as my previous copy had disappeared in cyberspace Enjoy””””

Lewis Says:

Its about Dispensationalism

The will be 7 dispensations to complete GOD’s plan. 7 ways GOD dealt with and tested man. Man failed all 7 showing that man needs GOD’s grace and shows the universe that GOD is right, and Satan is wrong. GOD could have destroyed Satan at any time, but that would have only shown that GOD was the more powerful, not that GOD was right. The whole point to “project Earth” was to prove GOD right and to provide GOD a family who would choose to love him.

The first Dispensation was Innocence in the garden of Eden

The 2nd Conscience from the fall to the flood

The 3rd Human govt from the flood to Abraham

The 4th Promise from Abraham to Moses

The 5th Law from Moses to Pentecost

The 6th Grace; the church from Pentecost to the Rapture

Between the Rapture and the 2nd coming the world is back under the law for Daniels 70th week

The 7th Sight is from the 2nd coming until the new Heavens and new Earth

The Church the Bride is only believers from Pentecost to the rapture…….

The old testament believers are the guests at the wedding mentioned in Matthew ch 22. The 10 Virgins of Matthew 24 are old testament people

waiting at the door of the fathers house for the Groom, Jesus to return with His Bride the Church…… only the guests present when the groom returns were

allowed to enter the fathers house in the Hebrew marriage custom. Only those guests wearing a wedding garment were allowed to stay at the feast ………

You have 4 groups of people in eternity

The Old Testament believers

The Church which returns to the Earth in the New Jerusalem after the 1000 years

Rev 21:9-10

The Tribulation Saints who martyred and are promised to be resurrected and Return with Jesus And rule as His rod of Iron for 1000 years Rev 20:4-6

The Millennial Saints those believers that are still alive will repopulate the earth.

All others will be removed from the Earth to hell as in Matthew 24:40-41

The armies of heaven are always the angelic host. These come with Jesus at his 2nd coming

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The 70th week of Daniel is the final week or period of the law just as the first 69 weeks were……. once the church

leaves, salvation by grace through faith is over…… the Holy Spirit having been taken away when the church leaves never again indwells people as HE does today.

HE “comes upon” certain people for a period of time as HE did in the old testiment but then leaves them…….. Its about Dispensationalism

Edit/Delete Message

The church age is the great paranthesis in the period of the law………..

dispensation of promise ////// dispensation of Law (((( church age )))) dispensation of law…..2nd coming……///// dispensation of sight………

people don’t need faith to believe in Jesus in the dispensation of sight because HE is visibly reigning on the throne during the 1000 years reign……

People got “”saved”" by being righteous looking tword Jesus during the law….. it is said by some expositers that one has to be killed for your faith to be “saved” in the tribulation / Daniels 70th week…..i dont know about that…… but the surviving Righteous get to enter the 1000 year kingdom

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Rev 2:26 And he that overcometh, and keepeth my works unto the end, to him will I give power over the nations:

Rev 2:27 And he shall rule them with a rod of iron; as the vessels of a potter shall they be broken to shivers: even as I received of my Father.

Psa 2:7 I will declare the decree: the LORD hath said unto me, Thou [art] my Son; this day have I begotten thee.

Psa 2:8 Ask of me, and I shall give [thee] the heathen [for] thine inheritance, and the uttermost parts of the earth [for] thy possession.

Psa 2:9 Thou shalt break them with a rod of iron; thou shalt dash them in pieces like a potter’s vessel.

Even though the nations see Jesus they wont want HIM anymore than they wanted HIM the first time.

Rev 14….. The Angels are proclaiming the gospel (the good news) that Jesus is the Messiah and of the coming Kingdom of GOD….. while on earth Jesus preached HIS coming kingdom…..

Jesus would have set up HIS kingdom right then if they had accepted HIM.

All this is not just Lewis’s idea…… its what is taught in the conservative preachers schools…

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Since they are back under the law (with the Holy Spirit taken out of the way) salvation would have to be the Abrahamic standard….. Abraham believed GOD and HIS belief was counted as righteousness

2Th 2:6 And now ye know what with holdeth that he might be revealed in his time.

2Th 2:7 For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth [will let], until he be taken out of the way.

2Th 2:8 And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming:

Under the Law The righteous who feared GOD were saved and entered heaven (Abraham’s Bosom) Even in the perfect environment of the 1000 year reign with Jesus righteous rule, only a few will choose HIM……. the rest will follow Satan’s final rebellion……..

once again this is NOT just my idea…..

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Dec 4, 2009 the Temple Mount and the Pyramid of Giza in Egypt

twelvebooks — Fri, 04 Dec 2009 18:11:33 +0000

There are two very good books that in a way are related to each other in that the supernatural hand of God is explained in mathematical and geometrical manifestations of the passage of time and the prophetic visions of the future. As of today I am reading the book Temple at the Center of Time by David Flynn that shows a very outstanding relationship between the distance of certain cities to the center of the Temple and the historical date, time, that the city had a major happening with a biblical event related to Israel.

The other book and program is about the great Pyramid of Giza in Egypt and the internet link is:

http://www.vinesbranch.com/view/?pageID=9387

The Nephilim are a race of giants that existed in the world prior to the flood. These giants were the result of angels cohabiting or having sexual relations with the daughters of men in the antediluvian era.

If the reader wants more info into this theme go to www.prophecyinthenews.com and they have several programs that go into this subject.

Nando

Dec 4, 2009 Swine flu vacine is not safe to take

twelvebooks — Fri, 04 Dec 2009 17:24:50 +0000

Swine flu vaccine is not safe to take, read the article
Nando

http://www.vinesbranch.com/view/?pageID=375214

Steve Coerper (4 Dec 2009) “Potential For Fed To Hyperinflate”

twelvebooks — Fri, 04 Dec 2009 17:07:29 +0000

The economic article posted in here is a must see. It looks that the whole system of money is about to hyper-inflate.

Nando

http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/dec2009/stevec124.htm

Steve Coerper (4 Dec 2009)
“Potential For Fed To Hyperinflate“

http://www.theinternationalforecaster.com/International_Forecaster_Weekly/Potential_For_Fed_To_Hyperinflate

Erik Slapp (1 Dec 2009) “Won’t be long now for a new currency – Must Read Article!”

twelvebooks — Tue, 01 Dec 2009 22:30:07 +0000

Some articles have important information and because they are long I put the title and a link to the article for access. This economic article is very important and the link may disappear or be taken off, so I am putting the whole article here.

Nando

http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/dec2009/eriks121.htm

Erik Slapp (1 Dec 2009)
“Won’t be long now for a new currency – Must Read Article!“

http://www.nationalexpositor.com/News/1979.html

International Forecaster – The following information may be the most important we have ever published. One of our Intel sources, highly placed in banking circles, tells us that on 1/1/10 all banks that have received TARP funds have been informed by the Federal Reserve that they must further restrict any commercial lending. Loans have to be 75% collateralized, 50% of which has to be in cash, which is a compensating balance.

The Fed has to do one of two things: They either have to pull $1.5 trillion out of the system by June, which would collapse the economy, or face hyperinflation. This is why the Fed has instructed banks to inform them when and how much of the TARP funds they can return. At best they can expect $300 to $400 billion plus the $200 billion the Fed already has in hand.

We believe the Fed will opt for letting the system run into hyperinflation. All signs tell us they cannot risk allowing the undertow of deflation to take over the economy. The system cannot stand such a withdrawal of funds. They also must depend on assistance from Congress in supplying a second stimulus plan. That would probably be $400 to $800 billion. A lack of such funding would send the economy and the stock market into a tailspin. Even with such funding the economy cannot expect any growth to speak of and at best a sideways movement for perhaps a year.

We have been told that the FDIC not only is $8.2 billion in the hole, but they have secretly borrowed an additional $80 billion from the Treasury. We have also been told that the FDIC is lying about the banks in trouble. The number in eminent danger are not 552, but a massive 2,035. The cost of bailing these banks out would be $800 billion to $1 trillion. That means 2,500 could be closed in 2010. Now get this, the FDIC is going to be collapsed before the end of 2010, which means no more deposit insurance. This follows the 9/18/09 end of government guarantees on money market funds. Both will force deposits into US government bonds and agency bonds in an attempt to save the system.

This will strip small and medium-sized banks and force them into shutting down or being absorbed. This means you have to get your money out of banks, especially CDs. We repeat get your cash values out of life insurance policies and annuities. They are invested 80% in stocks and 20% in bonds. Keep only enough money in banks for three months of operating expenses, six months for businesses.

Major and semi-major banks are being told to obtain secure storage for new currency-dollars. They expect official devaluation by the end of the year.

We do not know what the exchange rate will be, but as we have stated previously we expect three old dollars to be traded for one new dollar. The alternative is gold and silver coins and shares. For those with substantial sums that do not want to be in gold and silver related assets completely you can use Canadian and Swiss Treasuries. If you need brokers for these investments we can supply them.

The Fed also expects a meltdown in the bond market, especially in municipals. Public services will be cut drastically leading to increased crime and social problems, not to mention the psychological trauma that our country will experience. Already 50% of homes in hard hit urban areas are under water, nationwide more than 25%. That means you have to be out of bonds as well, especially municipals.

As you can see, the Illuminist program is going to come quicker than we anticipated. That in part is because they have had to expedite their program, due to exposure in the IF, other publications and especially via talk ratio and the Internet. There is no doubt we have the elitists on the run.

We are reaching the masses. On TalkStreamLive.com we were on the Rumor Mill this past week and out of 50 talk radio programs we were 5th behind, Rush, Hannity, Dr. Laura and we were tied with Beck. On the Sovereign Economist on Wednesday night we were 5th behind Beck and Savage and ahead of Hannity. Both these programs are not well known and the Sovereign Economist is only about a month old. It shows you what you can do if you work hard enough at it.

The latest favorable events we are told are the seeds of recovery. The green-shoots of spring are to be harvested before winter sets in. We are skeptical of the strength and duration of such a recovery.

The underlying problems are still not being addressed. The US government and the Fed cannot bail out banking, Wall Street, insurance and government indefinitely via monetization. Impaired corporations, no matter what their size, have to be allowed to fail. Stimulus cannot be used indefinitely. Both have to be reigned in, because the longer this charade continues the worse the final outcome is going to be. As we predicted six year’s ago, Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac, Ginnie Mae and FHA are the wards of American taxpayers, as is AIG. All their financial conditions worsen every day. They have again been insuring subprime mortgages by the thousands and when they begin to reset next year, we will be back to 60% failure rates. Even government admits already they’ll see 20% failure rates. This, so that housing inventory can be cut from 11-1/2-months inventory to 7-months, again in order to bail out the lenders at the expense of taxpayers. Government and the Fed have no exit plans for these sinking ships, particularly Fannie, Freddie, Ginnie and FHA, never mind their meddling in the economy guaranteeing everything is sight. Benito Mussolini would be very proud of what they have done.

Then we have those on Wall Street, banking and corporate America who believe they are doing God’s work by looting the American public making outrageous profits by in part using taxpayer funds, and allotting themselves disgraceful bonuses as unemployment hovers at 22.2%. Haven’t these people heard of the French Revolution? Their arrogance has no bounds. The credit crisis hasn’t ended; the Fed has extended it by throwing money at problems. We have a mortgage market that is worse than it was a year ago, only kept from sinking by a tax credit 3% down. As a result now we have more than $1 trillion of new mortgage failures on the way.

Our monetary base has more than doubled. Interest rates will probably stay where they are for 18 months or more and we even have a dollar carry trade. The 2009 fiscal budget deficit was $1.5 trillion and 2010 will be worse. Government is not cutting expenses. They are increasing expenses.

In addition making matters worse corruption is flourishing via the incestuous revolving door between Wall Street, the Treasury, in a multiplicity of other appointments and with the Fed. Is it any wonder 75% of Americans want the Fed audited and investigated. That said, the present set of circumstances cannot be allowed to go on indefinitely. We cannot keep insurance, Wall Street and banking on life support forever. Not when we finance two occupations and an ongoing war, never mind our unfunded liabilities of Medicare, Social Security, etc. most all of these problems are being financed by debt to be paid by our great, great grandchildren. We just created $12.7 trillion for bailouts and the Inspector General tells us we are presently on the hook for $23.7 trillion. What happens if all the recipients need another $20 trillion?

The situation is still dire and the solution is temporary and unworkable and Washington and New York are well aware of this. The game will play out over the next few years. In the meantime the dollar will move lower and inflation, gold and silver higher.

Economics is not complex; it is very simple. Professors and economists would like to have you believe it is complicated when in fact they make it opaque, so you cannot understand it. The same is true with banking. In normal times through the century’s bankers using the fractional banking system usually lent 8 times their assets, or deposits. It was only until recently that the privately owned Federal Reserve told banks within the system to lend 40 times assets or more in order to accommodate the system.

All this is to cover to confuse and hide the truth of fractional banking. Bankers’ indebt borrowers with money they made up out of thin air. Debt is enslavement by the bankers upon the people by buying almost everyone off. In the final analysis banking is a fraud unless money is interest free. The Fed, and all the other banks are a fraud.

The game as we know it today began in 1694 when the Rothschild’s formed the privately owned Bank of England and the production of bank notes began and circulated along with sterling silver coins. The end result has been that the bankers own the world. The system today is based on confidence and trust, something that has been worn thin. A reflection of the loss of trust and confidence is that 75% to 80% of Americans want HR1207 and S604 passed by Congress, so that the Fed can be audited and investigated. The public no longer trusts the Fed and the banks. As a result the con game may well be coming to an end. Fifty years ago we and a handful of other conservative warriors set out to inform the public of the giant scam that the Fed really was. It has been a long hard road. Gary Allen and Alan Stang are gone and of the originals all that are left are G. Edward Griffin, Stan Monteith, Anthony Hilder and us. During our lifetimes we now probably will see the end of the Fed. Because the people have finally been awakened. It was a long hard battle that may soon come to fruition.

The final step will be the termination of the Federal Reserve and its monopoly on financial theft. Unfortunately it will mean the demise of the only financial system we have known for 315 years. We do not know as yet what the new system will be like, but the con game is over and most of the world’s inhabitants are broke. The debt that is owed simply cannot be repaid. Japan, the US, the UK and Europe will be the first to go followed by most of the rest of the world.

You ask who will be the big winners? Gold and silver of course. Just as we have been telling you they would for 9-1/2 years, since gold was $252.00 and silver $3.80. Look at the gains for those who listened. And, we still have a long, long way to go to preserve our wealth. Over all those years the gold suppression cartel fought to hold down gold prices by selling gold, using derivatives and futures and in collaboration with good producers such as Barrick Gold and others. Hopefully HR3996 (HR-1207) will now pass unchanged and we can take a look at what the Fed and the Treasury were doing and who aided them.

What we are witnessing in the US and world economy is the result of the greed of central banks to make as much money as possible before they have to collapse the system to bring about World Government.

Zinc Dimes, Tungsten Gold and Lost Respect

twelvebooks — Mon, 30 Nov 2009 20:39:16 +0000

The article whose link is given here is about a big economic fraud perpetrated by the US Gvt and the banks of London with their falsified gold bullion’s. It turns out that the Chinese were given tungsten bars covered in gold to fake a true 100% GOLD bar.

It is a good economic analysis of very powerful power moves.

Nando

http://www.kitco.com/ind/willie/nov182009.html

Zinc Dimes, Tungsten Gold & Lost Respect

By Jim Willie CB