Posts Tagged ‘Pentecost’
May 19, 2012 AMAZING!! Even the New World Order is anticipating Pentecost, 2012!!
Rapture in Pentecost of 2012 is a strong possibility based on a number of factors. The letter sent to me by e-mail covers the occultplans for action after the Rapture and it is therefore relevant.
Nando
The post below is a real eye-opener, and is written by Mathman. The diabolical, and extremely evil New World Order elite have a Day of Sudden Destruction planned for this world. The Lord has planned a way of Escape from this Sudden Destruction. It is called the Rapture of the Bride of Christ. There is a very, very distinct possibility that both are pointing directly to to the same day of Pentecost, May 26–27, 2012!!!!!!! Are we about to enter our Final Week???
AMAZING!! EVEN THE NEW WORLD ORDER IS ANTICIPATING
PENTECOST, MAY 26–27, 2012
There are three Illuminati movies that have come out recently that gloat about the NWO’s diabolical plans for mankind. However, what most people don’t realize is that these movies also strongly hint at the timeline for their diabolical plans, which, in turn, has since been further revealed by specific actual world events that relate to the NWO’s timeline.
But the most exciting part about this is the fact that this timeline “just happens” to overlap with the Biblical timeline, which in turn points so strongly to the exact same date, Pentecost 2012 (May 26 / 27), as a strong watch date for our departure!! The Biblical timeline is outlined in the following past article for those who may not have seen it:
http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/may2012/mathman51.htm
The three movies I am specifically referring to are (1) “Knowing” (2) “2012”, and (3) “Extremely Loud & Incredibly Close”.
Now before I go on with this analysis, the overall question that you may be wondering about is, “Why would the NWO care about Pentecost?”
Quite simply, the NWO is ULTIMATELY controlled by Satan himself. In return, Satan wants to be “as god” himself, replacing the Trinity with his brand of evilness. Satan is also known as the great imposter, always trying to replace and impersonate Jesus as much as he possibly can. With this in mind, here are a few Q&As to help answer this VERY important question:
Question 1: When did the Church officially begin?
Answer 1: After Jesus was resurrected, appeared to the disciples and then ascended.
Question 2: How long after?
Answer 2: Jesus told His disciples to wait for a “Gift” to arrive before preaching the Word to the world. That “Gift” was the Holy Spirit.
Question 3: When did the Holy Spirit arrive, officially starting the Church?
Answer 3: The Book of Acts is VERY specific – Pentecost!!
Question 4: Given Satan loves to mimic Jesus, therefore when would be the most logical time for Satan to start his unholy “church”?
Answer 4: Pentecost is the obvious answer.
This important background then leads us to the first of the three movies listed:
“KNOWING”
PLOT: In the fall of 1959, for a time capsule, students draw pictures of life as they imagine it will be in 50 years. Lucinda, an odd child who hears voices, swiftly writes a long string of numbers. In 2009, the capsule is opened; student Caleb Koestler gets Lucinda’s “drawing” and his father John, an astrophysicist and grieving widower, takes a look. He discovers dates of disasters over the past 50 years, along with the number of people who died in each. Three dates remain, all coming soon, the last one to destroy all but a few. John investigates, learns of Lucinda, and looks for her family. John fears for his son, who’s started to hear voices and who is visited by a silent stranger who shows him a vision of the coming fire and destruction that will destroy the earth’s inhabitants.
ENDING: The earth is destroyed and only a few select are taken by aliens and planted on a pristine planet to repopulate it with the chosen humans.
SECRET NWO MESSAGES: The earth is overpopulated and needs to be cleansed, whereby the NWO also believe in a “Rapture” type event occurring as a sign to the elect – THEM. The NWO, as in the movie, know that it will take fire and destruction to achieve their goal of softening people to a One World Government ruled by – THEM.
TIMING CLUE: The dialogue in the movie specifically mentions PENTECOST in the same conversation that “Sudden Destruction” via fire is mentioned!! In comparison, name a single Hollywood movie, other than this one, that has EVER mentioned Pentecost in it??? Here is the applicable dialogue (verbatim):
- John (Nicolas Cage): I need to tell you something. That sermon you preached every year at Pentecost, about the gifts of the Spirit, one was the gift of prophecy.
- Reverend (John’s Dad): 1 Corinthians 12. Yes, I remember it. The church should respect the prophet.
- John: I have a prophecy. It’s about to be proven accurate. I need you to respect it and receive it as the truth. This heat we’re experiencing isn’t going to get better. It’s going to get worse, much worse. I need you to get Mom and Grace and any supplies you can, and get below ground tonight. Just get as deep as you can and as fast as you can.
- Reverend: I’m sorry, John, but I’m afraid I’m not going anywhere tonight or any night. I appreciate your concern, but if it’s my time, it’s my time. I’m ready whenever the good Lord calls me. Are you? (The phone then goes dead – the father is later again shown just as he is about to be incinerated!!)
So now we have clues as to the day (“Pentecost”) and the method of Sudden Destruction (“Fire & Destruction”). How about the year? This leads us to our second of three movies:
“2012”
PLOT: Dr. Adrian Helmsley, part of a worldwide geophysical team investigating the effect on the earth of radiation from unprecedented solar storms, learns that the earth’s core is heating up. He warns U.S. President Thomas Wilson that the crust of the earth is becoming unstable and that without proper preparations for saving a fraction of the world’s population, the entire race is doomed. Meanwhile, writer Jackson Curtis stumbles on the same information. While the world’s leaders race to have the Chinese secretly build “arks” for them in the Himalayas in order to escape the impending cataclysm, Curtis struggles to find a way to save his family. Meanwhile, volcanic eruptions and earthquakes of unprecedented strength wreak havoc around the world.
ENDING: The earth is destroyed by worldwide catastrophes and only the elite survive by escaping on massive “arks”.
KEY TAGLINE: “How would the governments of our planet prepare 6 billion people for the end of the world…? They wouldn’t.”
SECONDARY TAGLINES: “We Were Warned.” “Who will be left behind?” “The end is just the beginning.” “First, the Mayan calendar predicted it…Now, science has confirmed it…but we never imagined it could really happen.” “Mankind’s earliest civilization warned us this day would come…” “Find out the truth. Search: 2012” “How will you survive? Search: 2012”
SECRET NWO MESSAGES: The earth is overpopulated and needs to be cleansed, with only the elites prospering. However, the most subtle and diabolical message comes from the Key Tagline as quoted above. First, please note that the population of the world is actually 7 billion, not 6 billion, as outlined in the Key Tagline. Second, please note that 1 billion or less is what the NWO wants the world’s population to be RAPIDLY reduced to ASAP. NOW, notice that the tagline SPECIFALLY AND PURPOSELY used the number 6 billion!! In other words, 6 billion are to be terminated, leaving just their desired 1 billion remaining alive!! An oversight? I think not!!
TIMING CLUE: The title of this movie, “2012”, says it all!! Combine it with the clues from the movie “Knowing” and you have “Fire & Destruction for the world coming on Pentecost 2012”!! What makes this so incredibly compelling is that this “just happens” to be the VERY SAME DAY Ron and I have carefully outlined as a high watch date in our 2008 – 2015 BIBLICAL TIMELINE!!
Now you may be saying yourself, “but haven’t you and Ron foolishly gone down this road before, trying to match the Biblical Timeline with the NWO’s Timeline”?
The answer to both of these questions is YES AND NO!! We noticed, and reported extensively, on a similar conjunction as Pentecost 2012, but for the date January 28th not too long ago. So convincing was the evidence that Ron even went “all in” for the very first and only time in his long ministry of watching.
While it turns out we were right about January 28th being an EXTREMELY key NWO date, it turned out our interpretation of what was to occur on that date was incorrect (the Rapture). It was instead the final of six specific warnings from the NWO.
In other words, instead of the Rapture date being January 28th, it appears that January 28th was the beginning of our final 120-day period of Divine Judgment. The final call to board the ark (alluding to the 120 years Noah was given to build the ark in the first place).
Now watch this!! From January 28th to Pentecost 2012 (May 26/27) is EXACTLY 120 days!! Combine this fact with the fact that a MASSIVE NWO-related event (actually events) happened on that exact same date, January 28th, and one sits up and notices. Indeed, events occurred on January 28th that were so huge that they gave us specific clues as to just how close the NWO are to bringing in the NWO’s so-longed-for One World Government.
These January 28th events were the final of six warnings and will be outlined later in this post. However, first we need to tie this in to the specific clues given to us in the third and final movie. A movie that confirms, with little doubt, that the NWO ALSO viewed these January 28th events as their final “warning” AND ALSO STARTED OFF THERE 120-day countdown to Pentecost 2012 (May 26 / 27) as well. The movie:
“EXTREMELY LOUD & INCREDIBLY CLOSE”
PLOT: The entire movie revolves around the aftermath of the 9/11 attacks. In turn, these 9/11 attacks shifted the world’s view to facilitate the willingness of so many people who would now give up their freedom in exchange for security. This shift in attitude has proven to be THE PERFECT breeding ground for the rise of One World Government. This movie’s plot begins in the setting of this post-9/11 world, a dark and sinister movie. Specifically, a troubled young boy, Oskar, is trying to cope with the loss of his father in the 9/11 attacks. Oskar starts lashing out at his mother and the world. A year after his father’s death, Oskar discovers a mysterious key in his father’s belongings and embarks on a scavenger hunt to find the matching lock. A scavenger hunt that he did many times before with his father when he was still alive! On this journey, Oskar unlocks MANY SECRETS. However, will Oskar ever find the lock that fits the mysterious key, a lock that hides the biggest secret of them all?
MESSAGES ON THE ANSWERING MACHINE: Before the father dies, he phones home and leaves a total of six messages. In turn, these 6 messages are equal to 3 + 3, or 33, an extremely important number to the Illuminati. Indeed, Level 33 is the maximum level one can obtain as a Free Mason, a satanic Masonic club, and a secret organization whose symbols are imbedded in the very street patterns of Washington DC!!
THE ONLY MATHEMATICAL EQUATION: Oskar is working on an equation in the movie. Indeed, it is the only mathematical formula shown in the entire movie. The equation: “2880 hours / 24 hours per day = 120 days”. THIS IS A KEY CLUE AS TO THE NWO’S TIMING!!
SECRET NWO MESSAGES: There are almost too many secret NWO messages in this movie to count and was the entire subject of a past post of mine. Basically, this Illuminati film implicitly implies that the events of 9/11 contained MANY secrets regarding the NWO’s future plans for mankind, plans to soon be hatched by the NWO. However it is the timing clues that left the biggest impression on me. More specifically, the six messages from his father, with the sixth and final message concluding with the “Sudden Destruction” of the Tower, occurring shortly after it was finished.
TIMING CLUES: Based on these clues, this movie hints that the NWO will put out six separate warnings, to a slumbering world and then, after 120 days from the sixth and final warning, they will unleash the Sudden Destruction of fire. From this destruction, the NWO will implement the NWO Church, also known as the One World Government. One of their biggest goals – the giving of the “unholy spirit”, the Mark of the Beast!! As the NWO has often been quoted as saying, “out of the ashes of civilization shall arise the One World Government”!! This fits perfectly.
THE SIX WARNINGS
The question now becomes, WHAT were the six messages, or “NWO Warnings” and when was the last warning given that would have started off the final 120 day countdown to Sudden Destruction? As mentioned previously, it turns out that, instead of the Rapture itself, January 28th was instead the sixth AND final specific warning from the NWO, PERHAPS starting their final 120-day countdown to Pentecost (May 26 / 27) AND Sudden Destruction?!?!
In other words, instead of the Rapture date being January 28th, it instead appears to be the beginning of our final 120-day countdown period of Divine Judgment from God AND the final 120-day countdown to One World Government implementation by the NWO.
To reiterate, the PRECISE number of days from January 28th to Pentecost 2012 (May 26/27) is EXACTLY 120 days!!
Now, time to describe the six warnings that lead to the MASSIVE NWO-related events that happened on January 28th!! Events so incredibly huge that it gave us specific clues as to just how close the NWO are to bringing in One World Government. The very same One World Government that the NWO has bragged often about that would come from the very same “Fire & Destruction” they so blatantly laid out as being in humankind’s future, as per the movie “Knowing”.
In order, the six warnings given by the NWO are outlined as follows:
WARNING 1 – November 8 / 9, 2010: A mysterious missile was fired off of the coast of California at sunset and was witnessed by millions. As it was sunset, the missile trail glowed spectacularly and menacingly on the horizon until nightfall came. Fortunately, this missile was fired AWAY from the mainland and landed harmlessly somewhere in the Pacific Ocean. This event was caught by a traffic helicopter’s TV camera and is still on the internet for all to witness!! The Pentagon had absolutely no explanation for what had just occurred (and still don’t)!!
WARNING 2 – November 9, 2011: First off, notice that 11/9 is the reverse of 9/11. On this day, the U.S. government launched their very first test of the National Emergency Warning System. Strangely, at the end of it, they played a Lady Gaga song. In turn, Lady Gaga is one of the Illuminati’s favorite mouthpieces.
WARNING 3 – November 29, 2011: 11/29, where 29 = 2 + 9 = 11, is yet another reverse of 9/11. On this day, the U.S. government launched their second test of the National Emergency Warning System. Again strangely, at the end of it, they played a Katy Perry song, another one of the Illuminati’s favorite mouthpieces along with Lady Gaga, Madonna and Nicki Minaj (the demon “Roman”).
WARNING 4 – December 19, 2011: In a nationally televised NFL game, the lights mysteriously went out in the entire Candlestick Park Stadium TWICE!! It is very telling that authorities still can’t explain what happened to cause this blackout!! This is significant, as this occurred during Hanukkah, wherein the blackout at “Candlestick” Park most likely represented the blowing out of the middle candle, the “Jesus Candle”, to the crafty NWO. Again, yet another subtle but significant clue from the Illuminati, the NWO hallmark!!
WARNING 5 – January 8, 2012: The Defcon Nuclear Alert Status for the U.S.A. was upgraded to higher status 4. This was highly unusual, as these types of changes usually ONLY occur on the first or last day of a given month.
WARNING 6, THE FINAL WARNING – January 28, 2012: This is the most important and final warning. I will devote a whole section on this. However, it is first important to note the timing of the above six warnings.
Each one of the last five (of six) warnings took place at exact 3-week inclusive intervals. 2 to 3 = 3 weeks, 3 to 4 = 3 weeks, 4 to 5 = 3 weeks and 5 to 6 = 3 weeks, four 3 week inclusive periods in total. In turn, this is equal to 3333, a favorite number of the diabolical Illuminati!!
WARNING 6, THE SIXTH AND FINAL WARNING!!
Warning 6, the sixth and final NWO warning, actually came in the form of TWO separate events (or, more specifically, meetings, in this case). These events are outlined as follows:
The Alfalfa Club
The Alfalfa Club met on January 28th in Washington. This was a closed (no press allowed) affair with no one but high level members of the Illuminati invited. It was confirmed, in notes on this meeting, that Kissinger, Rockefeller, Bush, Buffet, etc., ALL NWO Heavy Hitters at the highest levels of this organization, were all in attendance that night. President Obama was the keynote speaker on this Saturday night, which took place at the posh Washington Hilton. Shortly after Obama left the party at 9:30pm EST, The NWO broke precedent and released a portion of Obama’s keynote speech that he had made at this affair. SUCH A RELEASE TO THE PUBLIC FROM AN ALFALFA CLUB MEETING IS COMPLETELY UNPRECEDENTED!! Indeed, such release of a speech from the Alfalfa Club has never happened before in its 99 year history!! January 28th proved to be the exception to the rule. AGAIN – SUBTLE YET DIRECT!!
In one portion of this released speech, Obama announced that one of his main goals for 2012 was to “get out of Washington and spend more time with “ordinary” folks like the ones were at the Alfalfa Club”. This was, once again, another direct, but subtle, hint to the slumbering world that there will soon be a need for the elite men and women of the Alfalfa Club to have to hide temporarily in safety. To put it another way, President Obama was subtly, but directly, indicating that it would soon be time for him and the elites to “escape to safety” from the Sudden Destruction they have planned for the U.S. (and perhaps other parts of the world) in order to bring in One World Government.
By the way, the 2012 meeting of the Alfalfa Club ALSO “just happens” to be the Alfalfa Club’s 99th anniversary!! 99 is an EXTREMELY significant Occultic number!! 99 equals 9 x 11, wherein 9 & 11 alludes to a NEW 9/11 that the NWO will soon usher in. In addition, 99 also equals 3 x 33, wherein 3’s are EXTREMELY important to the NWO. Indeed, 33 is the highest level one can attain in the Free Masons – a satanic organization that the elite love to participate in.
Side Note: The Alfalfa Club was formed for one purpose and one purpose only. This Satanic Elitist Club ONLY meets on the last Saturday of every January to have a drink together and continue to plan the fate of the entire world (at least, in there minds). THAT IS THE ALFALFA CLUB’S ONLY PURPOSE!! This is the ONLY reason this club exists!! TO HOLD THIS ANNUAL EVENT!! No other reason. So why is it called the Alfalfa Club, you may ask? It is called the Alfalfa Club because Alfalfa plants are notorious for requiring a lot of water. In other words, the Alfalfa plant “never needs an excuse for a drink”. Neither do the elite attendees from the NWO that attend this annual event. This is the slogan that underlies these annual meetings. Yes, indeed, the Alfalfa Club is a clever name. Clever – just like the NWO! Just take a second and imagine the private conservation at this meeting: “Mr. Kissinger, would you care for some mass death and mayhem with that Martini?” His response: “Absolutely! And if you could add some lightly-chilled world-wide martial law and population control shortly thereafter, that would be well appreciated!”
The World Economic Forum
Amazingly, this was not the only warning that the world received on January 28th of the soon-to-be-instituted New World Order’s One World Government! On this very night, the “lesser lights” of the elite, but still really influential in their own right, also met on this very same day of January 28th. These 2500 “second-tier” elite were all gathered in Davos, Switzerland at the very same time as the “first-tier” elite were meeting at the Alfalfa Club meeting described above.
However, instead of Washington DC, these people were enjoying the scenery of the world famous Alps. Safe and snug in the mountains, they were helping implement the “first-tier” elite’s world plans. Some performed this task knowingly, others unknowingly, many completely oblivious, and others “in the loop”.
Need further proof that this was another warning from the NWO? Check out the OFFICIAL theme of this Forum!! “THE GREAT TRANSFORMATION”!!!!
That’s right – THE GREAT TRANSFORMATION was the OFFICIAL THEME!! Fellow Doves, could the purpose of this complimentary meeting to the Alfalfa Club be any more obvious to us watchers?? The definition of transformation is “to change in an instant”. The NWO are (and not subtly this time) outright telling us that they will soon be bringing in a great and instant change to an unsuspecting and sleeping world. Is this not the very definition of GREAT TRANSFORMATION that this meeting was officially themed as?
THE FINAL 120-DAY COUNTDOWN FROM THE FINAL & SIXTH WARNING
As previously outlined above, the movie, “Extremely Loud & Incredibly Close” specifically outlined that it would take the main character EXACTLY 2880 hours to complete his quest and UNLOCK THE FINAL SECRET, USING THE KEY TO THE HIDDEN LOCK. In turn, 2880 hours is EXACTLY 120 days!! In turn, the time period from the Sixth & Final Warning on January 28th to Pentecost (May 26 / 27) is ALSO EXACTLY 120 days!! Just coincidence? We will certainly soon find out (or NOT!! If correct, we will instead be WAY too busy flying on Jesus Air, just prior to any such event being allowed by the Lord to occur)!!
IMPORTANT FINAL NOTE: I FULLY realize that prophecy centers around Israel, NOT the U.S.A. However, the U.S.A. is the military power that has kept Israel’s enemies at bay all of these years. In other words, as in a chess match, one would rarely attack the White King (Israel) before eliminating the White Queen (U.S.A.). In other words, what happens to the U.S.A. has extremely tangible implications for Israel. America being reduced in power is long overdue, or so MANY believe, including me.
Especially given America’s new status as the country with “the first gay president” in office, we all know that judgment is long overdue (the 50 million aborted American babies would also agree with me on this). Not only that, but Obama’s love for all things Islam has even allowed Israel’s enemies to be even more boisterous, on their calling for Israel’s destruction!! These are all EXTREME abominations in the Lord’s eyes!
Bottom line? BE EXCITED, MY BROTHERS AND SISTERS IN CHRIST, OUR REDEMPTION DRAWS EXTREMELY NEAR!! EVERY DAY IS ONE DAY CLOSER TO THE RAPTURE!! AMAZING!! EVEN THE NEW WORLD ORDER IS ANTICIPATING PENTECOST, MAY 26–27, 2012!!!!!!!
ARE WE NOW ENTERING OUR FINAL WEEK???
As always, to God be ALL the glory!!! He is at the door!! Maranatha!!
YbiC, MathMan
Nando
May 4, 2012 The astronomical bookends to Pentecost
Thanks to Mathman we can see the signs in the heavens that will occur before and after the date of May 27 Pentecost.
http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/may2012/mathman54-3.htm
MathMan (4 May 2012)
“Spectacular Astronomical Signs Embrace Pentecost 2012“
Dear Doves,
Check out the spectacular astronomical signs that will embrace Pentecost 2012 (links courtesy of Beast Watch News):
Annular Solar Eclipse (the “Wedding Ring” Eclipse) occurs on May 20th, 7 days BEFORE Pentecost 2012:
FROM BELOW ARTICLE: “Over the next several weeks, skywatchers will thrill to a couple of astronomical wonders playing out in daytime skies: a solar eclipse on May 20 — and then, on June 5, a “micro-eclipse” of the sun that involves the planet Venus. It’ll take about three and a half hours for the moon’s shadow to race across Earth’s surface, from 6:06 to 9:39 p.m. ET.”
NOTICE that the shadow will touch the earth for EXACTLY 3 hours and 33 minutes!! PERHAPS this a warning from God pointing to the soon-to-rise NWO, given that 33 is the NWO’s favorite number. Also, 3 hours = 180 minutes = (6 + 6 + 6) x 10, or 666.
BEAST WATCH NEWS: “Huh! Interesting! Ring of fire – NATO Summit – Ring of fire – NATO Summit… Anyone see a connection? I dunno… I’m just sayin’!… These NWO Edomite freaks just LOVE to make plans around the objects in the sky that they worship.”
http://cosmiclog.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/05/01/11489727-get-set-to-chase-a-solar-eclipse
FROM BELOW ARTICLE: “Next month’s micro-eclipse, more formally known as a transit of Venus, is even rarer. The planet’s tiny black disk will march across the sun over the course of several hours (roughly from 6 p.m. ET June 5 to 12:50 a.m. ET June 6). Most of the world will get in on at least part of the show, but the best viewing will be had once again from the Asia-Pacific region. This will be the last transit of Venus most of us will ever get a chance to see: The next one is due in the year 2117!!!!”
Venus crosses the Sun on June 6th, 7 days AFTER Pentecost 2012:
BEAST WATCH NEWS: “The next cycle will then take place either105.5 or 121.5 years later. The event is astoundingly rare because the planet usually passes above or below the sun from our viewpoint. This year’s transit is the second in a pair, with the previous one taking place in 2004, making it the last one we’ll ever see unless we discover the secret to immortality in the near future. Hmmm…. I wonder what “they” are planning for June 6th? Maybe nothing, maybe something…”
http://www.geekosystem.com/venus-transit/
http://www.tecca.com/news/2012/05/02/transit-of-venus-2012/
Perhaps the above are just a fluke occurrence, just happening to embrace Pentecost 2012. Or perhaps try the challenge I made to Randy in a separate post today and see if there is good reason for this occurrence “just happening” to embrace this particular Holy Day in this particular year.
Regardless, it is obvious that the number of days left for us on this decrepit planet shrink after every passing night. Everything around us is screaming at the fact the Lord is about to call us to home, whisked away in the chariots He made just for us!!
YbiC, MathMan
Nando
Nicole (24 Apr 2012) “Pentecost 2012 My Next Watch” Very good article!
Nicole has put together several videos and charts that are a must to see or read.
The importance of this years Pentecost Feast is again emphasized.
Nando
Nicole (24 Apr 2012)
“Pentecost 2012 My Next Watch“
I am not setting dates, but I did want to show you my findings about my next watch date of Pentecost 2012. I have already made my mind up to watch through the end of the blood moons. But these watches help me sustain through.
I found this chart by Luis Vega, and the “Swirls” on the chart almost look to me like the Norway Spiral, or that a “stargate” is opening for the Church to escape this Earth?
http://www.sonoma.edu/users/v/vegalu/eschatology_files/Pentecost.pdf
The Norway Spiral as the Sign of the Rapture & Eclipses and the Sign of the Rapture
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9XiGZk6A0-Y
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j34ROIQjoWI&feature=relmfu
Significant Crop Circle showing May 20th eclipse and Venus Transit tied to return of aliens
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sETtD5TX1Q8&feature=related
Charts by Luis Vega of the May 20th Eclipse and Venus Transit
http://www.sonoma.edu/users/v/vegalu/eschatology_files/Pleiades.pdf
http://www.sonoma.edu/users/v/vegalu/eschatology_files/Transit.pdf
Bible Study from Christsaves888 about watching for the rapture at Pentecost this year: Not Setting Dates but high watch
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YUn_rlw5Yd8&context=C4c64325ADvjVQa1PpcFMO5b1k9EI65HLHtxdXb3lNYKS0QTWWXik=
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gda4iwt_WX0&context=C4f3d00bADvjVQa1PpcFOMxonFl8Q6mpRpS8SVNEHCTimpncvSF_s=
What is really funny about his dream about the creatures chasing him to the water and he got on a boat named PENTECOST and they sat on the beach, reminds me of the movie Where the Wild Things Are the 2nd to the last scene of the movie…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kuiM_eqSoV0&context=C432d11bADvjVQa1PpcFOMxonFl8Q6mtoIlC1pk7e3KSxsQZcH9V8=
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pt-F93iwB_s&feature=related
Nando
Jim Bramlett (25 Apr 2012) “Ten-Day separation”
Nando
http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/apr2012/jim425-2.htm
Jim Bramlett (25 Apr 2012)
“Ten-Day separation“
SPECULATION:
Both Ascension Day May 17, 2012 and Pentecost May 27, 2012 point to the possible resurrection/rapture. Since they are two separate events, could not May 17 be the resurrection of the dead and May 27 be the rapture of those who remain?
Marilyn Agee is looking to May 17 as the rapture, while others are looking to May 27.
That is a ten-day separation. Could those be the ten days of Revelation 2:10? It makes sense that “those who remain” would be greatly persecuted after the resurrection.
I am intrigued with that Fibonacci curve/number as God’s signature seen throughout the universe.
See http://www.sonoma.edu/users/v/vegalu/eschatology_files/Pentecost.pdf
It makes sense that He would stamp the most important day in history with His signature.
Just sayin’.
Nando
Jim Bramlett (25 Apr 2012) “Pentecost”
VERY GOOD POST JIM
Nando
http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/apr2012/jim425-1.htm
Jim Bramlett (25 Apr 2012)
“Pentecost”
http://www.sonoma.edu/users/v/vegalu/eschatology_files/Pentecost.pdf
The Golden Ratio (Fibonacci) connection gets my attention. The Fibonacci curve is God’s signature!
Odd that this would come from an academic institution, the last place one would normally look. But God is always full of surprises.
Thanks, MathMan for the link.
Nando
March 29, 2012 Are Moses and Elijah Coming on Passover to Start The Seven Year Long Tribulation? Resurrection-Rapture in Easter?
Again we are reminded of the times we are in. In the e-mail I received today from a close friend we see the Bible Code and the Jewish Rabbi’s reaching the conclusion that their Messiah will be announced with the appearing of the prophet Elijah on Passover of 2012. In the article below the writer comments on this subject and states that with Elijah we shall also see the other witness Moses. He also states that the Resurrection and Rapture will occur in Easter which this year also corresponds to the Jewish Feast of First Fruits.
It has long been my opinion that the two witnesses will make their appearance on the first day of the seven year (2520 days) long Tribulation. In my opinion we are already well into the limit of time set by the Bible prophecies regarding the start of the Tribulations. Not to long to wait to see if this will play as told here.
Nando
From: rapturetj@comcast.net
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Subject: Fw: ALERT! ALERT! It’s about time to leave! / Tom Gaston
Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2012 16:42:15 -0500
IMPORTANT!
From Miriam:
A friend of mine who has contacts in Israel just told me that many rabbis and others there– strongly believe what Rabbi Matityahu Glazerson has been saying is true……. that the ” Redemption of Israel ” will finally come to Israel beginning this Pesach ,( Passover ) in 2012 .
Because the ” religious Jews ” know that God promised them Elijah just before the Day of the Lord begins, as in Malachi 4, and even Rabbinical Judaism expect him to show up during Pesach ( Passover )… THEY WILL NOT BE SURPRISED when they find out that Elijah and Moses have indeed come to Israel ( as the Body of Christ is secretly leaving Earth! ).
The Two Witnesses will again be preaching ” the Gospel of the Kingdom ” – which is composed of “the Law ( Moses ) and the Prophets ” ( Elijah )…. “Let THEM ( Israel ) hear THEM ” ( the Witnesses ), as in Luke 16:29 , 2 Kings, 17:13, Matt 22:40, Luke 16:16, Luke 24:44, Acts 24:14. The Tribulation opens back under the dispensation of the Law , extending through to the end of the Day of the Lord at the end of the Millennium .
We should all have known all along – as believers – that there is NO other season , no other Feast , no other day and no other time for the Day of the Lord to open except during the 7 day feast of Pesach – during the Feast of Firstfruits , when ” the single sheaf of the firstfruits of barley is presented to the Father, at which time the ” Bride’s fruits ” will be examined and rewarded at the morning sacrifice at the Bema of Christ !
Pesach ( Passover ) is the Only time national Israel is in expectation to see the arrival of Elijah!
Miriam
( Note: from Tom G. )……. Below is a link to a youtube video with Rabbi Glazerson in Israel who has found a Bible Code relating to this coming Passover season in 2012 . The Bible Code shows that Israel’s ” redemption ” will finally come and begin during Passover season this year.
IMPORTANT : Something you all need to remember here about the Jewish rabbis and the Jewish people at large in Israel. They don’t believe in ” Yeshua ” yet so when they say or talk about the ” messiah ” coming this year durin Passover they are actually talking about the ” second advent ” ( in context ) and they are NOT taling about the Rapture of the Church which they do not believe in.
Bible Code for….. Passover 2012
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6bHIc5W9AFw&feature=results_main&playnext=1&list=PL923E69CE91A8D1DA
Addendum below : from Tom Gaston
( Check out the amazing Hebrew gematria phrase below which I found today dealing with the ” Church , Resurrection , First fruits , and an Earthquake ).
I believe that there is going to be an Earthquake at the time of the resurrection / Rapture . I also believe that this is how God is going to ” take out ” Israel’s enemies and their ” infrustructure ” and immoblize them at the opening of the ” Day of the Lord .” The ” Day of the Lord ” comes as ” sudden destruction ” upon Israel and the world (1 Thess. 5:3 ).
Iran has buried most of all their Nuclear facilities ” under ground ” right where they are suppose to be as far as I am concerned. All God has to do now in order to STOP Iran’s nuclear program is just SHAKE THE HELL OUT OF THE EARTH in Iran ( Which is very earthquake active anyway ) and their whole nuclear program would be stopped, shut down, and destroyed in an instant by the Hand of God as the collapse of the earth and the violent shaking during such an Earthquake would most definitely destroy those facilities under ground. That’s all God has to do to shut’em down!
Also, I believe that Damascus at that time could very well be leveled by an Earthquake , which could possibly fulfill the Isaiah 17:1,2 prophecy concerning the ” destruction of Damascus .” All God has to do is just violently shake the earth at the time of the resurrection / Rapture / opening of the Day of the Lord / and this whole threat against Israel in Psalm 83 will have been stopped by the hand of God in a ” blink of an eye ” at the time of our departure. This could certainly fulfill the Isaiah 17:1 prophecy which states that the ancient city of Damascus will become a ” ruinous heap .” The Bible does NOT say how Damascus will be destroyed? but an earthquake is most definitely one likely way God may do it? Such an Earthquake would destroy buildings, communication systems, military facilities……etc…etc.
Isaiah 17:1 ….The burden of Damascus . Behold, Damascus is taken away from being a city, and it shall be a ruinous heap .
Because I believe that there is going to be a an ” earthquake ” at the time of the resurrection / Rapture , which God could very well use to bring about confusion and destruction in order to stop this all out attack on the nation of Israel. I therefore decided to see if I could find a Hebrew gematria phrase with the term ” Earthquake ” which would point to First fruits in the year 2012 .
And to my surprise I did find one!
The Church, First fruits resurrection and the earthquake / Hay = 5 / Kaph = 20 Nun = 50 Sameck = 60 Yod = 10 Yod = 10 Hay = 5 / Beth = 2 Kaph = 20 Vav = 6 Resh = 200 Yod = 10 Mem {final letter} = 600 / Tau = 400 Cheth = 8 Yod = 10 Yod = 10 Hay = 5 / Vav = 6 / Hay = 5 / Resh = 200 Ayin = 70 Shin = 300 / total = 2012
Matthew 28:1 – 3 …………”Now after the sabbath , as it began to ” dawn ” toward the first day of the week , Mary Magdalene and the other Mary came to look at the grave………..And behold, a ” severe earthquake ” had occurred, for an angel of the Lord descended from heaven and came and rolled away the stone and sat upon it…….And his appearance was like lightning, and his garment as white as snow;”
Notice the chapter and verse of the gospel of John below.
John 20:12 ………….”And she beheld two angels in white sitting, one at the head , ( He is the Beginning – the Aleph / Alpha ) and one at the feet ( He is the END – the Tau / Omega ), where the body of Jesus ” Had ” ( past tense ) been lying.”
Now lets make an interesting observation here.
Christ is the ” Head ” of the Church and the ” Church ” represents His feet which carry the gospel message of the ” good news ” of His gospel which is the death, burial, and resurrection .
Romans 10:15 …….How will they preach unless they are sent ? Just as it is written, “ HOW BEAUTIFUL ARE THE FEET OF THOSE WHO BRING GOOD NEWS OF GOOD THINGS !”
Ephesians 1:22 ……And He put all things in subjection under His feet , and gave Him as head over all things to the church .
Colossians 1:18 …….He is also head of the body , the church ; and He is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead , so that He Himself will come to have first place in everything.
I Can hardly wait for Easter / First fruits to get here as it could very well be the time of our departure this year folks?
In Christ, Tom Gaston
Rapturetj@comcast.net
Nando
CF (28 July 2011) “The Number Three and Three Solar Eclipses”
As I stated since last month the Lord Jesus communicated with me that the Apocalypse would start in the month of July in this year.
The following article points to dates in the last day of this month or the first date of the next for significant signs given in the sun. The time of Pentecost and Tu’B’ Av is also coming.
Nando
http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/july2011/cf728.htm
CF (28 July 2011)
“The Number Three and Three Solar Eclipses“
Dear Doves,
Here is a re-cap on the signs in the sky that may be pointing to our soon departure!
The three solar eclipses that fell on Tammuz 29 and Av 1 three years in a row, (2008, 2009, and 2010) seem to be a sign to those who are watching that God has begun to judge the nations and that something HUGE is about to happen. The number three in the Bible is very significant and points to the fulfillment of God’s divine purposes.
(The dates of the solar eclipses three years in a row are as follows:)
August 1, 2009 – Tammuz 29
July 22, 2008 – Av 1
July 11, 2010 – Tammuz 29
As if these three eclipses were not enough to get our attention, the Lord seems to have pointed His watching and waiting bride to Tammuz 29 and Av 1 AGAIN by showing us two more signs in the solar eclipses that happened this year on June 1, 2011 and July 1, 2011. God seems to be saying, “Look at this pattern: June 1, 2011 – solar eclipse, July 1, 2011 – solar eclipse, what is the next logical date in this pattern?”
The answer is August 1, 2011, which again falls on the eve of Tammuz 29 and Av 1. There seems to be no doubt that the signs in the sky are pointing to these two dates which fall on July 31 – August 1 in the USA (if you are going by Jerusalem time, the watch is one day earlier due to the time difference.)
Av 1 is the beginning of the intensified stage of mourning and will last for nine days. (Nine is 3 x 3 and may represent completeness.)
Here is a little bit about the meaning of Av 1:
“When Av begins, we diminish [our] rejoicing” (Talmud, Taanit 26b).
“On the 1st of Av, “The Three Weeks” mourning period over the destruction of the Holy Temple–which began 13 days earlier on Tammuz 17–enters an intensified stage. During “The Nine Days” from Av 1st to the Ninth of Av, a heightened degree of mourning is observed, including abstention from meat and wine, music, bathing for pleasure, and other joyous and enjoyable activities. (The particular mourning customs vary from community to community, so consult a competent Halachic authority for details).
Consumption of meat and wine is permitted on Shabbat, or at a Seudat Mitzvah (obligatory festive meal celebrating the fulfillment of a mitzvah) such as a Bris (circumcision), or a “Siyum” celebrating the completion of a course of Torah study (i.e., a complete Talmudic tractate). The Lubavitcher Rebbe initiated the custom of conducting or participating in a Siyum on each of the Nine Days (even if one does not avail oneself of the dispensation to eat meat).
Citing the verse (Isaiah 1:27) “Zion shall be redeemed with mishpat [Torah] and its returnees with Tzedakah,” the Rebbe urged that we increase in Torah study (particularly the study of the laws of the Holy Temple and charity during this period.
http://www.chabad.org/calendar/view/day.asp?tdate=8/1/2011
The Number Three and the Three Solar Eclipses
Below is some information on the number three in the Bible.
“Another of the numbers where we can readily see God use it in a spiritual sense to signify something, is the number three. It is used of God to signify His Purpose or His Will! For example, when God sent the three messengers to Abraham to tell him that Sarah would conceive in her old age (Genesis 18), by the use of the number three we see in this an illustration that they came with God’s “purpose and will” to Abraham. i.e., it was by the will of God and for His own purposes that Sarah should conceive so that God would make a great nation of Abraham through it.
The same illustration is seen as God brought a thick darkness upon the land of Egypt (exodus 10:22-23) for three days. In this, God’s purpose and sovereign will of judgment is worked out. The number three illustrated that it was for God’s purposes that they were in darkness while all the Children of Israel had light!
We can see this in the three times in a year God commanded that the men of Israel were to appear before the Lord in Jerusalem (Ex. 23:14,17 Deu. 16:16). This illustrated the will and purpose of God in the feasts Laws, which all pointed to Christ!
In 2nd Samuel 21:1 the Lord sends famine in the land for three years, and says it was because of Saul and his bloody house. In other words, it was God’s will that this happen, and the purpose of God in doing this was to bring judgment because of Saul’s bloody House.
Another example is in 1st kings 17:21 as Elijah stretches forth his body over a dead child three times, and the child lives again. This signified that it was God’s will and for His own purpose that the child should yet live again, a type or spiritual “shadow” of things to come.
Again, as the Lord said His servant Isaiah walked naked and barefoot three years as a Sign (signification) and a wonder upon Egypt (Isaiah 20:3), once more indicating God’s will and purpose for Egypt.
Even when we look at the three men who were cast into the furnace of fire, and a fourth who was there like the Son of God (Daniel 3:24-25), we see that it was God’s will and purpose that these three men would not be harmed by the fire because of the presence of the Son of God. This was demonstrating that by the presence of Christ, the will and purpose of God that His people not be harmed in the fire, will be accomplished.
These are just a few of the examples, and we could go on and on about this. These places where the number three is found is numerical symbology which is putting forth spiritual truths, that we can learn from as we consider them. For in three, God works out His purpose and His will. As Jonah was in the belly of the fish three days and three nights, so it indicated it was for God’s purpose, and that His will would be worked out in this (Again, a type of Christ).
If I could use an earthly analogy of a Biblical principle, It’s somewhat like asking someone three times whether they really want to sell their house for a certain fee. After they say yes the third time, it’s established that this is their will and purpose or intention. That, of course, is a bad analogy, but one which makes the point. That is the way the number three is often used in scripture. It signifies the establishment of God’s will and His purpose. The three days and three nights Jonah spent in the fish established that God’s purpose and will would be worked out in that. In Acts, the Lord smote the Apostle Paul with blindness for three days:
Acts 9:9
Was the fact that he was blind “three” days just a number picked out of a hat, as if any number would do? No, the number was God breathed. He was Blinded three days not by coincidence, but “by divine fiat or decree”. It was God’s purpose for him to be blind and to neither eat nor drink for those “three” days because He was bringing Paul to the light! Why not four days? Why not two days? Because those are numbers God uses to signify other things, and He wanted to indicate by the number “three” that it was for His own good purpose and by His sovereign Will that Paul be blind. And that is what the number three signifies.
The exact same principle in Acts Chapter 10, when a voice from heaven told Peter to rise kill and eat the beasts of the earth that were on a sheet descending from heaven. And Peter says No, for I have never eaten anything that is common or unclean. Then the voice says, “what God has cleansed, don’t call it common”. And we read,
Acts 10:16
Why was this done “three” times, and then the sheet received up again into heaven? When we study scripture in context, we find that these passages were to indicate that the gospel was going out to the Gentiles as well as the Jews. And that is why it is meticulously pointed out by God that this was done three times and “then” received up again unto heaven. It is to signify this is the purpose and will of God that Salvation go to all the world. It’s not just any number, it’s the number that signifies God’s purpose and will that Salvation go to the Gentiles as well as the Jews. The “three” times it’s done, gives us this spiritual signification that it is established by God for His purpose.
Christ spoke a parable which was about a fig tree in a vineyard in Luke 13:6 (Symbolizing Israel) and the man of the vineyard came “three” years seeking fruit and found none, and so said cut it down, why cumbereth it the ground. Why didn’t God in this parable say cut it down after one year, or after two years? It was because the “three” years he came seeking fruit is symbolizing the purpose of God. He gave it “three” chances before he said cut it down. (Remember the analogy I made of three times asked makes it established?) The establishment of God’s purpose and will is seen in this number three.
One of the greatest places to see this numerical symbology is in that there is only one God, and yet there are three in the Godhead. The Father, The Son, and The Holy Spirit.
1st John 5:7
The purpose or will of God the one God, is worked out in these three. Read the Bible with wisdom and understanding. Because these things were put there for just that purpose. The purpose and will of God is worked out in the three of the Godhead.
When Paul sought God to remove the thorn in the flesh, but it was for God’s own purpose that Paul retain this thorn (it wasn’t God’s will to remove it) He illustrates this by the number three. Consider what we read in,
2nd Corinthians 12:8:
Here we see it again “three” times Paul besought the Lord! Why not once, or twice? Why didn’t God tell him after the first time or the second? Why did God wait for the third time? It’s because God deliberately wants to indicate in scripture by this number 3, that it is not His purpose, or His Will that this thorn be removed. He says to Paul after being asked the third time, “My Grace is sufficient for you.” In other words, My Grace is enough for you. i.e., After the third time asking, it was established as God’s will that this was not to be removed. Grace was enough for Paul. So again we see clearly that the number three here was an indication to us that it was not God’s will that this be removed.
There are just so many indications of the number three being used to symbolize the will and Purpose of God. None more “God Glorifying” than the atonement that the Lord made at the cross. The Atonement has the number “three” all around it and we can readily understand why. That’s because though Christ was Crucified, it was God’s will and for His purpose that Christ went to the Cross. For example, Jesus sat with the elders in the Temple three days being about His father’s work, there were three Crosses, there were three men crucified, there was writing in three different languages on the cross, Jesus prayed three times that if it was possible could this cup pass from me, three Apostles went into the garden to pray with Him, Peter denied Our lord three times, Pilate sought three times to let Jesus go, it was the “third” hour when they crucified Him, Jesus was in the heart of the earth “three” days and “three” nights, When Jesus was risen He asked Simon three times loveth thou Me, and on, and on. The number three is everywhere indicated in the atonement that Christ made for us because it was God’s will and purpose. Are these all just coincidental references? The scoffers will tell you that, but the Spirit tells another story. Christ had to go to the cross in order for us to be Saved. It is a Gift of God. It was His will. The number three being used this way is a coincidence like the sheep being used as an indication of a believer is a coincidence. No Possible Way! They were both put there by God to give us a great Spiritual, or symbolical picture that we can learn from. Unfortunately, there are many in our day who choose to remain spiritually ignorant in these things.
It’s not curious then that the number three is sometimes used in conjunction with the number two (which signifies the agreement of truth) when making statements about God’s purpose. Because His will and purpose go hand in hand with the truth. For example, in relationship to the Church. For the Church is the pillar of truth, and it is also doing God’s Will, and working to accomplish His purposes. Jesus says in:
Matthew 18:19-20
There we have the establishment of the truth (2), and the Purpose of God (3) in the definition of the Church. Where two or three are gathered in Christ’s name, there is the truth and the will of God being done, and Christ in their midst. That’s the two or three witnesses of God. That’s the Church with Christ in the midst (remember the two witnesses of revelation chapter 11?) There is the “definition” of the Church! Two or three witnesses gathered together in the name of Christ! The two is illustrating established truth, and the three illustrating the purpose and will of God.”
http://www.mountainretreatorg.net/bible/numbers.html
I am not sure what will happen in the next few days, but as watchers, I hope we are in for a wild and joyous ride!
High Watch Days for 2011: July 29, 30, 31, August 1.
“My soul waiteth for the Lord more than they that watch for the morning: I say, more than they that watch for the morning.” (Ps. 130:6)
Even so, Come, Lord Jesus!
CF
Nando
July 25, 2011 Rapture at the end of the month of July 2011?
I have enjoyed reading this article by Eliane B. which is probably the correct view of the plan for the church of Christ.
If this view is correct the first Rapture occurs before the seven year Tribulation starts and it could be on Pentecost of this year which is at the end of this month as the article states. The second Rapture if it happens before the seventh trumpet of Revelation must be at the end of the 1,260 days when the two witnesses are killed and are resurrected three days after.
At this point we must consider the remaining humans left on earth and see how they will be seen by Jesus. In Revelation 20:4 listed below we see another resurrection and this happens after Satan, the Antichrist and the False Prophet are dealt with so the seven years are over. Is this the third resurrection? A few verses after it states that this is the first resurrection.
http://niv.scripturetext.com/revelation/20-1.htm
4I saw thrones on which were seated those who had been given authority to judge. And I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded because of their testimony for Jesus and because of the word of God. They had not worshiped the beast or his image and had not received his mark on their foreheads or their hands. They came to life and reigned with Christ a thousand years. 5(The rest of the dead did not come to life until the thousand years were ended.) This is the first resurrection. 6Blessed and holy are those who have part in the first resurrection. The second death has no power over them, but they will be priests of God and of Christ and will reign with him for a thousand years.
We also must deal with the sheep and the goats listed on Matthew 25:31 to the end. Obviously the sheep did not follow the Antichrist, but are they believers in Christ or are they being judged on their works exclusively as the text seems to imply?
It is a complicated subject and I want to thank all those involved in this interchange of ideas for making their thoughts available to others.
Nando
http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/july2011/elianeb725-2.htm
Nando
Eliane B (25 July 2011)
“Why I think the Judgment Seat of Christ can’t happen before the last Tribulation Saint arrives in Heaven“
Dear Doves,
I believe that the Judgment Seat of Christ can only happen after the last saved person arrives in Heaven. So, in my opinion, that Judgment only takes place after the last Tribulation Saint arrives in Heaven, so that the entire Body of Christ is present in the Judgment Seat.
So even if one doesn’t believe that the Body of Christ is taken to Heaven (if not via death) by means of more than one Rapture (being the first one the Rapture of the ones who are ready at the time of the First Trump and the other one the Rapture of the surviving Tribulation Saints at the Last Trump), even if one prefers to believe that there is only one rapture, the Judgment Seat has to wait for the last Tribulation Saint alive on Earth to be translated to Heaven via death, which only happens many years after the First Rapture.
I think that 1 Thess 4:16-17 refers to the pretrib Rapture:
16 “For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the TRUMP OF GOD: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: 17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.”
Notice that the event being described above doesn’t mention the word “last trump”, but “Trump of God”.
1 Cor 15:51-52 refers to the last Rapture after the shortened Tribulation and just before the Wrath of God is poured on Earth.
51 “Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed, 52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the LAST TRUMP: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed. 53 For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality”
Marilyn Agee said in one of her posts: “The first trump is blown with the left horn of the ram Abraham sacrificed instead of Isaac (Gen 22:13). The last trump is blown with the right horn of the ram. The Rabbis blow the FIRST TRUMP, the left horn, on PENTECOST, and the LAST TRUMP, the right horn, on the FEAST OF TRUMPETS. It is easy to tell that the LAST-TRUMP RAPTURE will be on Trumpets (Joel 2:1-2), so why wouldn’t the FIRST-TRUMP RAPTURE come on Pentecost? “
I believe that the First Trump Rapture is on Pentecost (the correct date, whatever it is) and the Last Trump Rapture is on Rosh Hoshana / Feast of Trumpets / Yom Teruah. If I believed there was only one Rapture, the Feast of Trumpets would be the unquestionably the best candidate for the event.
The reasons I’m a proponent for Pentecost for the first and pretrib Rapture are:
- Pentecost has to do with the timing of the God espousing the Israelites at Sinai (when the Law was received by them)
- Pentecost is described I Scriptures as the First Trump
- Pentecost was the day the Church received the Holy Spirit and was “officially” baptized, althouth I think the Church was actually born when blood and water poured from the side of Jesus.
- Pentecost is the timing of the end of the barley AND wheat harvest (as described in Ruth 2:23) and this was the timing of the Kinsman Redeemer espousing her (a gentile bride, like the majority of the Church).
The reason the Feast of Trumpets is the best candidate for the last and pre-wrath Rapture are:
- Feast of Trumpets has to do with JUDGMENT
- Feast of Trumpets is Coronation day (Psalms 98:6)
- Feast of Trumpets is the Last Trump
- The last Trump is the last trumpet that sounds gathering the elect, the Tribulation Saints, “of those days” (Mt 24:29&31). This final rapture is described in 1 Cor 15:51-52.
- After this final rapture, death for the Body of Christ (now complete in Heaven, made up of the Bride and the Tribulation Saints) will be swallowed up forever in victory. The victory was already won at the cross, but will be enforced after the Last Trump Rapture.
1 Cor 15:53 can’t be referring to the pretrib Rapture because if it did, then no Tribulation Saint would be able to die after that Rapture, because the verse says that Death will be swallowed up in victory. So I believe that the entire Body of Christ must be united and complete in Heaven (which is possible only after the Last Tribulation saint arrives in Heaven either through death or through the Last Trump Rapture) for Death to be swallowed up in victory.
Again: Death is not swallowed up until the resurrection of the last believer! This is why I believe that 1 Cor 15 is not talking about the First Trump / Pretrib Rapture.
The scripture “But we shall ALL be changed” in 1 Cor 15 makes many serious Bible students infer that this verse proves that all believers are changed at the same time and therefore there must be only one rapture and one resurrection. But what the verse says is: “we shall ALL be changed”, not “we shall all be changed at the same time”.
What I understand it is saying is that at that point in time when the last rapture occurs, ALL at that point shall have been changed. The overcoming bride had already been changed, given their resurrected bodies previously at the pretrib rapture (First Trump) and now the Tribulation Saints are being changed and receiving the resurrected bodies at the end of the shortened Tribulation. Together, they make up the whole body of Christ who are ALL changed at this final rapture.
It’s important to understand that the First Resurrection in Rev. 20:6 is illustrated in 1 Cor 15:22.26, when we see a discussion of resurrection in which a sequence of different phases or ranks of the resurrection of believers is pointed out, in addition to a reference to when the unbelievers are resurrected.
1 Cor 15:22 says: For in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all (the Bride and the Tribulation Saints) be made alive.
23 But every man in his own order (from the Greek ‘tagma’, “a series or sucession”, “rank”): Christ, the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ’s at his coming.
(note 1: the verb “coming” above can be also translated as “appearing”, in Greek.)
(note 2: there is no punctuation in the originals in Greek or Hebrew. The commas or lack of commas were added or omitted by translators)
The first resurrection happens in three different stages of phases at three different times. A few, that were part of Jesus’s sheaf (omer), were resurrected and changed with Jesus in the year of the crucifixion (probably 32 A.D.) and were taken to Heaven in their new changed bodies on the Feast of Firstruits (the 16th of Nisan, the day after the Sabbath, when the firstfruits of the barley harvest were being lifted up and waved by the Priest).
The bride, another type of the firstfruits (now from the end of the barley and wheat harvest), is raptured and resurrected before the Tribulation, probably on the Feast of Pentecost, when the Priest lifted up and waved two loaves of bread to the Father at the end of the barley AND wheat harvest. We have reasons to believe that the correct date for Pentecost is the 29th of Tammuz, which in 2011 will fall on July 31st/August 1st.
And the Tribulation Saints, those that are His at His appearing, are raptured and resurrected at the conclusion of the shortened Tribulation, before the Seventh Seal is opened and the Wrath of God is poured on Earth.
The Feast of Trumpets seems to be the day of the resurrection / rapture of the Tribulation Saints (the last phase of the first resurrection which is separated by “tagmas”, “order”, “ranks”), which are typified by the Days of Lot (Lot and his family were removed from Sodom by angels, instants before fire and brimstone fell on Sodom and Gomorra). On that very same day, the 7th and last Seal will be opened and the Wrath of God is poured on Earth. There is Judgment on Earth (the Wrath of God) and Judgment in Heaven (the Judgment Seat of Christ, which is not for condemnation of anyone, but for very important decisions regarding roles in the Kingdom, as well as rewards that Our Lord chooses to give). On that same day (Yom Teruah), Christ will be coronated King (probably the moment of half an hour of silence) and the Wedding Supper of the Lamb will be served to all believers that are present in Heaven. These seem to be the events on Yom Teruah, Feast of Trumpets.
This interpretation reconciles the fact that Yom Teruah is a Feast that involves Judgment, Coronation, Wedding (in this case, the Wedding Feast, not the wedding itself) and also a huge event happening on Earth that will unleash a renovation of the planet (in its anniversary).
In my view, the Judgment Seat can’t happen before all saints are united in Heaven as the complete Body of Christ.
I also think that the Second Coming happens a few months after the Wrath of God is poured on Earth.
Love in Christ,
Eliane
Nando
July 17, 2011 Another confirmation that the Apocalypse starts in the month of July (14 days remain).
July 14, 2011 Another confirmation that the Apocalypse starts in the month of July (14 days remain).
At 10:45 AM I left my house in my way to church and the streets were deserted. In the first red light there was a car with the license plate 667 JQI which was another confirmation and this was the first car I saw.
The number 66 is the corresponding number of the book of Revelation or the Apocalypse and 7 is for the month of July.
Please see the links below for the previous communications, the first and most emphatic one occurring on June 9, 2011.
http://twelvebooks.wordpress.com/2011/07/07/july-7-2011-two-more-confirmations-of-apocalypse-in-july/
Nando (Confirmations of June 9, 10 and 23)below
http://twelvebooks.wordpress.com/2011/06/23/june-23-2011-confirmation-that-the-apocalypse-starts-in-july-sixth-confirmation/
Nando
July 14, 2011 The Feast of Pentecost, the Rapture, the apocalypse and the two witnesses
The main theme of this post is the Feast of Pentecost and the Rapture of the Bride.
Very good dissertation by (Eliane B.) and analysis of the time at hand.
I firmly believe that the Book of Revelation and the beginning of the seven years of Tribulation will be this month of July 2011 so I am expecting the Rapture to occur this month also as well as the appearance of the two witnesses (Moses and Eliah).
Please refer to my testimony of the license plates linked here.
http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/july2011/elianeb714-1.htm
Eliane B (14 July 2011)
“Days that come and go; Feast Day x regular day for the Rapture of the Bride“
I recently read a verse that drew my attention. I think it shows more or less what our feelings are when nothing happens after a certain date we have expected:
“The harvest is past, the summer is ended, and we are not saved.” Jeremiah 8:20
Isn’t that verse interesting? Isn’t that how we feel when a certain date comes and goes and we’re still here? Isn’t it interesting that the verse says that summer (not spring) had ended and they were disappointed because the rescue they were expecting didn’t happen?
Some days ago, Robert Belanger said on Five Doves that the author of an article he was referencing in a link (see http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/july2011/robertb76-1.htm) said that “the Bible can be viewed as a book about a marriage contract, the marriage of Jesus and His Bride”. If this is assumption is correct, it would be plausible to say that the middle and tallest lamp of the Menorah represents one of the most important themes of the Bible: the marriage of the Son of God with the Bride.
Among other symbols (the days of the week, the planets), the middle lamp also represents the Feast of Pentecost, a hugely important festival, one of the three mandatory Feasts that the Jews observed in Jerusalem (the pilgrimage Feasts), one that divides the lampstand in two parts (before and after), one that is directly linked to the central support/basis of the Menorah and from which the oil to the other lamps is shared (in case they are shared like in the communicant vessels principle which I don’t know).
So I wanted to say is that this marriage is so special to the Father that I don’t think it would be omitted from the Feasts. I think this event is so extraordinarily important that it must be depicted by a central Feast, a Feast that is so obvious – but has been misunderstood both in regard to its final prophetic meaning (the going UP of the Bride and not the coming DOWN of the Spirit – although this is very significant too!) and in regard to the correct way of reckoning that date – that one could say it’s very well hidden even being in the center and in plain sight.
If the marriage of Jesus and His Bride is so important to our Father, He wouldn’t reserve a common day in His appointed times for it, but a Feast, in my opinion. I think it is a central Feast.
I think this assumption would justify the fact that Paul told the Thessalonians in 1 Thess 5:4 that true believers wouldn’t be surprised by the day, only unbelievers or maybe nominal Christians.
But ye, brethren, are not in darkness, that that day should overtake you as a thief.
So that day must have a very obvious picture in the Bible for Paul to have said that (the book of Ruth is one of the pictures). For nonbelievers, that day will come like a thief in the night. In my opinion, this picture has two meanings:
First meaning: unbelievers will not even be paying attention or expecting or even wanting the Rapture. They will be taken by surprise.
Second and most important meaning: that day will come like a thief to them because the Bride will be suddenly removed from their presence. In other words: the Bride is the very object of the theft. So she will not be surprised because she wants to be raptured, or at least she knows that she is going to be raptured someday and she is expecting her Bridegroom to come to fetch her for her new home and life, even if she doesn’t know the exact day.
If nothing happens between July 30th and August 1st, I will patiently wait for Pentecost (Tammuz 28 or 29) or any other date every year, but striving to be spiritually ready every day.
We must never forget that being spiritually ready is much more important than expecting a certain date.
I’d also like to say that I’m not saying that anything is necessarily going to happen in 2011. We don’t know the year.
Love from YSIC,
Eliane
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