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March 5, 2012 The Tripartite Man and the concept of Salvation

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A few years back I became aware of the tripartite nature of men. At the time I learned that we are made up of body, soul and spirit and were formed in the image of God who is also a Trinity, God the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit. At that time I also learned that the spirit was eternal versus the soul and body which were subject to death and carnal. I had learned also of the carnal versus the spiritual natures of men and that it was through the spirit that one came to be saved and that a war was present all of our lives between the spiritual and the carnal.

In her post Arlene gives a link to a book with an introduction and eight chapters called Salvation of the Soul, Saving of the Life by Arlen L. Chitwood.

I have just read the chapter one and was so enriched as to the depth of this work that I am posting it for all of you to have and read before I finish the other seven chapters

Thanks Arlene for your post.

Nando

http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/march2012/arlene35-1.htm

Arlene (5 March 2012)
For John and all the Doves…


Hi Y’all….Whew!  I’ve had a busy few hours, and I hadn’t intended to post anything else, but this couldn’t wait.  First, I’ll ask what seems like a fairly simple question to everyone.  Personally, I DID NOT know the answer, and I’m truly ashamed that I didn’t.  It’s my own fault because I didn’t research it, but, then, I didn’t even realize it was a question that needed to be asked.  Anyway…..here’s the question:

What is the difference between “spirit” and “soul” salvation?  There is a HUGE difference….and knowing what these differences are means how we will spend eternity….as a “son” or not.  I kinda think this might be important….and since I didn’t know, and I haven’t heard anyone mention this, maybe y’all need to know about this.  I sure hope you can open the link….it has study chapters which we all need to know.

http://bibleone.net/SOS.htm

Piece taken from introduction: (I kinda cut it up so it would fit)

Many Christians take Scriptures dealing with the salvation to be
revealed and seek to apply them to the salvation that we presently
possess.  And misapplying Scripture in this manner, these individuals
arrive at the erroneous conclusion that it is possible for a saved
person to be lost, which not only casts reproach upon the sufficiency
of the finished work of Christ at Calvary, but also does violence to
numerous portions of the Word of God.

Then, on the other hand, there are those Christians who recognize that
the loss of one’s eternal salvation is not possible, but still fail to
understand distinctions be! tween the salvation of the spirit and the
salvation of the soul.  Most from this group take many of these same
verses and seek to either apply them to the nation of Israel or to
unregenerate individuals, whether Jew or Gentile.  And applications of
this nature not only remove the Spirit’s exhortations and warnings to
redeemed individuals, but erroneous interpretations in one area of
Scripture will often, for the sake of consistency, lead to erroneous
interpretations in other areas.

Well, that’s it for now….maybe I’m the only one who didn’t know this, but I’m sure glad I found out now!!

YsiC,

Arlene

Nando

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March 5, 2012 at 4:11 pm

Feb 5, 2012 Fay (4 Feb 2012) “Know your Enemy”The many faces it takes

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The following link is something to save and study with care and dedication.

Nando

http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/feb2012/fay24.htm

Fay (4 Feb 2012)
“Know your Enemy”


Hi John,
This link takes the viewer through a detailed walk of the powers of evil that dominate our world. It’s thoroughly researched and beautifully put together. The link takes you to the introduction ( part one) There are 77 episodes ( 11 hours) but they come in episodes of 8 to 14 minutes. This is brilliantly put together. This is information that we’ve all gathered in snippets over the years – put together in a logical and comprehensible form.
To access the next episodes, the links are in the right hand side of the you tube page. To say that I was glued – riveted – is an understatement. This is golden research. The series is put together by young Scottish guys – called The Fuel Project. The series is called Know Your Enemy.
Fay

Nando

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Oct 2, 2011 Pilgrims celebrated Thanksgiving on Nov 11, 1621 a 390 year prophetic fulfillment this year?

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Yesterday I received an e-mail from Mr. Michael Wellman about the next Thanksgiving.

The letter points to a coming fulfillment of a prophecy of 390 years. The Pilgrims date of Thanksgiving was Nov 11 of 1621 with the date on the Julian calendar.

This is another fulfillment of prophecy for the coming 11/11/11 which from the article of yesterday by Mr. Wellman is the date for the feast of Tabernacles (7 month of Tishri) or seven years to the second coming of Jesus and the start of the Apocalypse for this year.

Thanks for sharing these very important facts with us Michael.

Nando

Thanksgiving 
I went with them to the house of God, with the voice of joy and praise, with a multitude that kept a pilgrim feast Psalm 42:1-4.
Enter into his gates with thanksgiving, and into his courts with praise: be thankful unto him, and bless his name. Psalm 100:4
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There are only two contemporary accounts of the 1621 Thanksgiving: This is Edward Winslow’s account, which he wrote in a letter dated December 12, 1621. The complete letter was first published in 1622.
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Our corn [i.e. wheat] did prove well, and God be praised, we had a good increase of Indian corn, and our barley indifferent good, but our peas not worth the gathering, for we feared they were too late sown. They came up very well, and blossomed, but the sun parched them in the blossom. Our harvest being gotten in, our governor sent four men on fowling, that so we might after a special manner rejoice together after we had gathered the fruit of our labors. They four in one day killed as much fowl as, with a little help beside, served the company almost a week. At which time, amongst other recreations, we exercised our arms, many of the Indians coming amongst us, and among the rest their greatest king Massasoit, with some ninety men, whom for three days we entertained and feasted, and they went out and killed five deer, which they brought to the plantation and bestowed on our governor, and upon the captain and others. And although it be not always so plentiful as it was at this time with us, yet by the goodness of God, we are so far from want that we often wish you partakers of our plenty.
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But the Pilgrims’ first Thanksgiving began at some unknown date between September 21 and November 9. The date of Thanksgiving was probably set by Lincoln to somewhat correlate with the anchoring of the Mayflower at Cape Cod, which occurred on November 21, 1620 (by our modern Gregorian calendar–it was November 11 to the Pilgrims who used the Julian calendar).
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The 390th anniversary is coming up
The Ezekiel chapter 4 prophecy deals with prophetic periods of 390 years and 40 years.
It is important to correctly perceive the literal meaning of this prophecy and to grasp the existence of the concealed end-time warning. The 390 year period ended with the destruction of Jerusalem!
Blessings
Mike

Nando

F.M. Riley (6 Sep 2011) “Farce??” Elenin, Planet X the Rapture And the Tribulation

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This study was posted yesterday in fivedoves and I missed it. Today another dove made mention to it and I went looking for it.

Yes Pastor Riley Elenin and Nibiru (Planet X) will be visiting the earth neighborhood in the near future and their passing by will cause great destruction and yes they were written in the Bible  and they will cause the upheavals listed in Revelation with the opening of the Sixth seal.

Nando

http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/sep2011/fmriley96.htm

F.M. Riley (6 Sep 2011)
Farce??


Farce..??  Nonsense..?? Foolishness..??

By Pastor F. M. Riley

                                                                                                                                                            September 2, 2011

The Question

 

     Just yesterday many of God’s people on the Internet were rejoicing because they were finally able to see Comet Elenin and Planet X for themselves by photographing the Sun with their own cell phone cameras.  Their own photographs confirmed that these two heavenly bodies are already in the solar system or are swiftly approaching the solar system and therefore approaching the earth, exactly as Revelation 8:6-12 predicts.  Anyone with the mental capacity to read, can read these Scriptures for themselves and understand that the earth is to be visited by four judgments coming out of the heavens during the first half of the Tribulation.  Read it for yourself!

     But today some of the same people are downcast, disappointed, discouraged, and defeated because someone writing on “Five Doves” website decided that the images which are being seen in the photos taken on cell phone cameras are neither Elenin nor Planet X, but rather are merely reflections on the lense of the cell phones being used to take the photos.

     What a switch between the elation of yesterday and the defeat of today!  A good example of the “fickle” fallen nature of mankind.  Men and women, including even true believers, are often “blown about” with every wind of change in their situation, Ephesians 4:14.  Feasting on the Manna from Heaven and praising the Lord for His goodness and mercy one day, and dragging themselves through the valley of despair the next day crying out, “Where is God?”  This “fickleness” in human nature makes one wonder why God is so merciful and patient  and longsuffering with us.    

     Folks, whether some want to hear it or not, such inconsistency in the lives of those who claim to be “Christians” is a shameful disgrace to the cause of Christ.  Those who don’t like my saying so, have my permission to write and apologize to me.  Is this stated clearly enough? 

     The real question is not whether the photos taken by cell phone cameras actually show Elenin and Planet X, but rather whether the inspired Word of God predicts such judgments coming on the earth or not.  Does it or doesn’t it?  Well…??

    

Why the Doubts..??

 

     The fact is, there is considerable doubt that the “doubters and skeptics” who have labeled the coming of Elenin and Planet X AS A FARCE AND NONSENSE AND FOOLISHNESS even know what they are talking about.  I have personally heard from several different people TODAY who have taken photos at different places, at different times, at different angles, under different conditions, and who have carefully checked to see that there was no reflective glare on their cameras when they were taking the photos, yet their photos still showed Elenin or Planet X or both of the heavenly bodies near the Sun.  Obviously some of the skeptics and doubters are eager to discredit the whole subject, for it doesn’t “fit” what they want to believe. 

      Who cares whether the photos really show Elenin and Planet X?  I don’t!  Whether the photos do or do not won’t change what God’s Holy Inspired Word has to say about the matter.  What God’s Word has to say is what really counts!  Isn’t it?  Don’t hem or haw or stutter or stammer.  Just answer the question!  Either you believe what God’s Word actually and literally has to say, or you ought to “take down your sign” and quit claiming to be something or someone that you really are not.  We all know what most folks call such “pretenders” so I don’t have to even say the word.   Now “is you is, or is you ain’t” a real true believer?  Well…??

      Dear readers, I have been seriously watching and studying the approach of Planet X in the light

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of God’s Word for the past 11 years.  I have a six inch thick file on the subject in my file cabinet right now.  I didn’t have to ever see a photo of Planet X [or Comet Elenin] to KNOW that Planet X is real, and especially to know that such heavenly bodies are predicted in God’s Word to come flying past the earth REAL SOON.  God’s Word says so, whether some want to believe it or not!  The inspired prophecies of the Word have been predicting this truth for centuries, but NOW is the “appointed time” for those prophecies to be fulfilled.  How do I know?  I’m so glad you asked…..

 

 The Lord Himself told us they were coming…..

 

     In setting forth The Parable of the Fig Tree, the Lord Himself stated, “Heaven and earth shall pass away, but My words shall not pass away,” Matthew 24:35.  This statement of the Lord is commonly overlooked or ignored, because it is such a simple statement in our English Bible that nearly everyone who reads it assumes that they understand what is being said.   The last time I checked 1 Thessalonians 5:21 and 2 Timothy 2:15 were both still in the Bible.  One of the lessons the Lord has graciously taught me over these past 57 years in His ministry, is to never assume anything where God’s Word is concerned.  Dumb assumptions result in equally dumb theories that do nothing but spread confusion and deception in the ranks of Christianity.  Are you listening? 

     Do our readers really know and understand what the Lord actually and literally said when He made this statement, or do our readers just assume that they know what the Lord said?  Let’s take a serious look at the Lord’s statement and see what He really said. 

     The English words “pass away” in this Scripture are translated from the Greek word, “pareleusomai.”  This Greek word occurs 31 times in the New Testament, and it literally means, “to go past; to pass by; to go past one; to be led by; to be carried past.”  See Thayer’s Greek Lexicon, page 488, Strong’s No. 3928.  In other words, what Christ was literally saying is that at some point in the future the “heaven” would come flying past the “earth,” both the heavens and the earth being unstable in contrast to the permanence of His Word which is established forever, Psalm 119:89.  So in this passage of Scripture the Lord Himself predicted that at some point in the future one or more heavenly bodies would come flying past the earth.  Hello! 

     The Lord also knew that Psalm 102:25-26 clearly predicts that the present order or arrangement of the solar system revolving around the Sun will “perish” and the heavens will be “changed.”  In order to fulfill this prophecy a “change” has to occur in the entire solar system.  It doesn’t require a lot of intelligence to come to this logical conclusion.   So what is the Lord going to use to bring about this “change” in the present order and arrangement of the solar system?  I don’t know!  However, I suspect that such a “change” could be brought about by one or more large heavenly bodies with powerful electro-magnetic and gravitational fields entering into the solar system and literally forcing the planets in the solar system to move out of their present orbits, or perhaps even causing some of them to self destruct.   Well glory to God!  It sure appears that when  the Lord Jesus gave His prophecies, He had in mind events which are on the horizon RIGHT NOW

     Our precious Lord, in Luke 21:11, in the exact context of speaking about the events which would precede and signal His coming again for His people, explicitly stated, “And great earthquakes shall be in divers [diverse; different] places, and famines, and pestilences; and fearful sights and great signs shall be from heaven.” 

     The Lord continued this line of thought in the same chapter a few verses later when He explicitly stated, “And there shall be signs in the sun, and in the moon, and in the stars; and upon the earth distress of nations, with perplexity; the sea and the waves roaring; Men’s hearts failing them for fear, and for looking after those things which are coming on the earth: for the powers of heaven shall be shaken,” Luke 21:25-26.

      Today it is a well known established truth that disturbances which occur in the solar system have a direct effect upon the earth.   For instance, we now know that it is the gravitational pull of

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the Moon which causes the tidal actions in the seas and oceans of the earth.  Let anything interfere with the gravitational force of the Moon upon the earth and the tides in the seas and oceans will increase accordingly.   The solar flares from the Sun are the cause of the so-called “northern lights.”  Depending on how strong the electro-magnetic energy is in the solar flares from the Sun, the solar flares can interfere with communications, electrical grid systems, the climate and weather systems on the earth, and even effect the tectonic plates of the earth causing earthquakes.   Anyone today who has even casually  observed the movements of the heavens then knows that there is a direct connection between what occurs in the heavens in the solar system and what occurs on the earth.   To deny this connection is “ignorance gone to seed.” 

     Notice that the Lord Himself explicitly stated, “for the powers of heaven shall be shaken,” Luke 21:26.  The English word “shaken” is translated from the Greek word, “saleuo.”  This Greek word literally means, “to shake up; agitate; to cause to totter; to shake thoroughly; to shake down; to overthrow; to cast down from one’s state; to move; to disturb; to stir up.”  See Thayer’s Greek Lexicon, page 567, Strong’s No. 4531.  See also Hebrews 12:25-29 and Haggai 2:6-7.  Yet in spite of the prospect of such prophesied events staring humanity in the face RIGHT NOW, some stubbornly refuse to believe these events explicitly predicted by the Lord Jesus Himself are either coming or even going to happen.    

     But they will!   I remind our readers that the entire Book of Revelation was given to John as a vision by the Lord Jesus Christ Himself, Revelation 1:1; 1:8; 1:17-20.  In Revelation 8:7-12 the first four judgments under the sounding of the trumpets are poured out upon the earth as each of the angels sound their trumpets.  Each one of these four judgments are brought about by something from out of the heavens falling upon, passing by, or otherwise effecting the earth.  Notice also that each of the judgments follows one behind the other, exactly as we presently see Planet X following Elenin and the Lord only knows what is following Planet X.  Is this all just coincidence?  I don’t think the Lord Jesus Christ was lying when He gave us these prophecies!  Do you?       

     

     The Apostle Peter verified the Lord’s prediction by explicitly saying, “But the day of the Lord  [the Tribulation] will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up,” 2 Peter 3:10. 

     This inspired Apostle used the exact same Greek word [pareleusomai…”pass away”] that the Lord used in Matthew 24:35.  In other words, the Apostle Peter clearly states that the Tribulation will begin when one or more heavenly bodies come flying past the earth making “a great noise” as they pass.   This will likely occur when the entire earth is plunged into three days and nights of total darkness, thereby fulfilling Christ coming to resurrect and rapture His New Covenant believers to glory “as a thief in the night.” 

     By the way, I did receive an email from a fellow telling me that it would be “impossible” for people on the earth to hear a planet or other heavenly body passing by the earth through space for, according to him, “space is a vacuum which cannot transmit sound.”  Whoo boy!  Then I suppose the ancient Sumerians were just bald faced liars when they recorded how the inhabitants of the earth trembled in stark terror as they watched and HEARD Planet X passing by the earth some 3,630 years ago.   If I could buy some of these proud hearted “know-it-alls” for what they are really worth, and sell them for what they think they are worth, I would never have to be concerned with funds for the Lord’s work again.  God have mercy on such “willing ignorance.”  I wonder if this fellow has ever read Isaiah 24:18 and 29:6, and if so does he believe them?

 

     The Prophet Isaiah also verified the Lord’s prediction in his inspired writings.  See Isaiah 13:1-22 in which Isaiah explicitly states that “the day of the Lord…..shall come as a destruction from the Almighty,” 13:6.  In the chapter Isaiah describes in detail the judgments that the Lord will bring

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upon the earth during the Tribulation.  In 13:3-5 the Lord says that He has commanded His  “sanctified ones,” and that He has called them from the end of heavenas “the weapons of His indignation.”  Now isn’t this a “coincidence”?  Or is it?  Is it possible that the Lord is referring to bringing Planet X and other heavenly bodies into our solar system from the blackness of deep outer space to use in bringing judgment upon the wicked of this earth?  Read 13:10 and think about it!  Whatever the Lord is bringing “from the end of heaven” is most certainly going to cause great earthquakes and destruction upon  the earth and even move the earth itself out of its present orbit,

13:13-14.  I would also suggest that our readers carefully study Isaiah 24, where the prophet again clearly connected chaos in the heavens with terrible judgments being brought upon the earth.

 

     Folks, it is obvious that these visitors from out of the heavens are coming, whether some want to believe it or not.   Wicked unbelief will not stop these clearly predicted events from happening.   

     Yes, I am well aware that Elenin and Planet X are not mentioned by name anywhere in the Bible.  Does that mean that they don’t exist just because they are not named in the Bible?  Does that mean that the Lord God is not going to use them to fulfill the prophecies of His Word just because He didn’t call them by name?  Many hundreds of things that we see and use every day are not mentioned by name in the Bible.  Does that mean they don’t exist?   How about you?   Is your name recorded in the Bible?  If it isn’t, does that mean you don’t exist?  Silliness gone to seed! 

      The inspired Word explicitly states that the Lord “…..worketh all things after the counsel of His own will,” Ephesians 1:11.   Does this then mean that the arrival of Comet Elenin and Planet X into the solar system right at this particular time in human history is not included in the “all things?”   Well…??  Get serious about believing God’s Word or take down your sign! 

     Mentioning “this particular time” reminds me that…….

 

The Lord Himself told us WHEN these things were coming…….

 

     Oh yes He did!  I’m not referring to the “day and hour,” so some of our readers don’t need to go

into hysterics.   What I am referring to us the fact that the Lord Jesus Christ Himself explicitly and

plainly stated in The Parable of the Fig Tree,

     Matthews Gospel…….“So likewise ye, when ye shall see all these things, KNOW that it is near, even at the doors.  Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled,” Matthew 24:33-34.

     Marks Gospel…….“So ye in like manner, when ye shall see these things come to pass, KNOW that it is nigh, even at the doors.  Verily I say unto you, that this generation shall not pass, till all these things be done,” Mark 13:29-30.

     Lukes Gospel…….”So likewise ye, when ye see these things come to pass, KNOW ye that the KINGDOM OF GOD is now nigh at hand.  Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass away, till all be fulfilled,” Luke 21:31-32. 

      Now how about a little serious Bible study?  The words translated as “all these things” in Matthew and “these things” in Mark and Luke literally mean all at the same time.”  In other words, the Lord Himself explicitly said that when the time would come when everything He had predicted to occur in these chapters [earthquakes; famines; pestilences; one ethnic group pitted against another ethnic group; nation against nation; wars and rumors of wars; signs from the heavens; etc] is occurring all in the same period of time then God’s people [true believers] could KNOW that the “KINGDOM OF GOD” is staring humanity in the face!  

     Oh yes it does mean this!  This is not just my “interpretation” or my “opinion.”  Look up the meaning of the Greek words for yourself in your own Concordance or Lexicon.   See Thayer’s Greek Lexicon, pages 491-493, Strong’s No. 3956.  Thayer’s says that the word “all” as used in these passages and the Greek tense in which the word occurs, specifically means “these things all taken

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together.”  But this is by no means the end of the matter…..

     The Lord Himself then reinforced the truth He stated about “all these things” by referring to  “This generation” in all three of these gospels.   No, He was not referring to the generation living at the time He was on earth giving the prophecy.  Again, look this expression up for yourself in your own Concordance or Lexicon.  Thayer’s Greek Lexicon, in referring to “this generation” as used in these passages, explicitly states, “the whole multitude of men living at the same time: used especially of the Jewish race living at one and the same period.”  See Thayer’s, page 112, Strong’s No. 1074. 

     In the context of The Parable of the Fig Tree the Lord Jesus Christ is referring to “the generation” that is living when the fig tree, typifying the nation of Israel [Jeremiah 24:5-7; Hosea 9:10], is re-planted in her land [re-established as a nation…1948] and then begins to put forth leaves [expands her territory…Six Day War, 1967], Matthew 24:32-34.  It is “this generation” which shall not die off or pass away until “the kingdom of God” [Luke 21:31-32…Millennial Kingdom] is established on the earth.   Praise the Lord!  Glory to God!  Hallelujah! 

     Beginning with the year that either one of these historical events occurred, 1948 or 1967, and counting forward, it then ought to be obvious that we believers living today are swiftly approaching the end of these time periods set forth by the Lord Himself.  Only seven years remain in either one of these two time periods.   What is the prophetical significance of this for our readers?

     In 1948 Israel was reestablished as a nation for the first time since 70 A.D.; 1878 years.   If we move forward using the time when Israel changes their own calendar each year, Rosh HaShanah, the 1st day of the 7th month on the Jewish calendar, then from Rosh HaShanah 1948 to Rosh HaShanah 2011 will complete exactly 63 years.   The 64th year will begin on Rosh HaShanah. 

     Folks, I firmly believe that the final seven years are the seven years of the Tribulation and are reserved for Israel, and for God’s judgment upon the Christ rejecting Gentile peoples of the world, Daniel 9:24-27.  63 + 7 = 70.  “70” is the Bible number for “the restoration of Israel.”  The Lord Jesus Christ was 30 years of age when He began His public ministry, Luke 3:23.  This left 40 years to be completed in a 70 year period before Israel was taken away from being a nation.  Now here at the end of this present age we are living today in another 70 year period which began with Israel’s restoration as a nation and will end in seven more years with the “the Israel of God” being restored to a right spiritual relationship with the Lord.   Glory to God!  Hallelujah!  Praise the Lord! 

     I would be negligent to our readers if I didn’t also point out that if the current cycle of events were to go one more year to Rosh HaShanah, 2012, this whole numerical pattern explicitly set forth in God’s Word  would be totally “fouled up.”  Think about it! 

     Now what did the Lord Himself tell us about this final generation?  He told us explicitly and plainly that “all these things” which He prophesied will come to pass or be fulfilled and “the kingdom of God” will be established on the earth within “this [final] generation.”  The Lord Himself clearly and explicitly stated in Matthew 24:35, Luke 21:11, 21:25-26, and Revelation 8:7-12 that this includes one or more heavenly bodies flying past the earth or even falling upon the earth, causing great destruction and death upon the earth.  Is this plain enough?

     The Lord also explicitly told us believers, “And when these things begin to come to pass, then look up, and lift up your heads; for your redemption draweth nigh,” Luke 21:28.  Compare Romans 8:23.    

In view of these Truths…….

 

    So if this whole subject of Elenin, Planet X, Nibiru, or any other heavenly body flying past or even falling upon the earth and causing great death and destruction is, in the opinion of some, just A FARCE, FOOLISHNESS, AND NONSENSE, then I have a suggestion for any and all of our readers who feel that way…….   Just tear these utterances of the Lord Himself out of your Bible, throw them in the trash, and tell God that you don’t believe this is ever going to happen and that the Lord just lied or was mistaken when He Himself predicted that they were going to happen.

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     Do I really expect some believers to do this?  No!  Not if they really are true believers! 

     Then why did I even bother to write this study?  I wrote this whole study to fulfill my obedience as a “man of God” to the inspired command given to Timothy and by example to every true Christian minister, to reprove, rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine.  For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine [teaching]; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;   And shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables,” 2 Timothy 4:2-4.

     Folks, I am sick to my stomach of those who profess to be true believers viciously attacking and demeaning other true believers because “They don’t see things like I see them!” or “What I believe is correct and everyone else is wrong!” or “The Lord told me, so I can’t possibly be wrong.”  God have mercy on such willful ignorance and wickedness

     Have true believers forgotten the Lord’s own explicit command?  

     “A new commandment I give unto you, That ye love one another; as I have loved you, that ye also love one another.  By this shall all men know that ye are My disciples, if ye have love one to another,” John 13:34-35.           

     Have true believers forgotten the inspired admonition of Paul?

     But speaking the truth in love, may grow up into Him in all things, which is the head, even Christ:  From whom the whole body fitly joined together and compacted by that which every joint supplieth, according to the effectual working in the measure of every part, maketh increase of the body unto the edifying of itself in love,” Ephesians 4:15-16.

     I am not for a minute suggesting that true believers compromise or “water down” the truth of God’s Word.  God forbid!  My prayer is that the Lord will raise up more true believers who will “earnestly contend for the faith,” Jude 3.  But I am saying that true believers are all members of the same family and brothers and sisters in Christ.  When we disagree, just as members of any family will disagree from time to time, is it necessary to cut one another down, to speak to one another and about one another and against one another viciously and meanly and hatefully?  

     This kind of language might [???] be okay when we believers are dealing with avowed enemies of the truth who hate us, hate our God and Savior, hate our Bible, and hate everything we stand for, and who  rail against us in the crudest and filthiest of language.  But those are not the people I have in mind!  I am talking about relations between God’s people; true believers.  

     Are some true believers unable to say what needs to be said or at least what they think needs to be said, to another true believer without getting ugly and mean about it?  Are true believers simply unable to discuss different viewpoints on the Scriptures without becoming mean, ugly, proud hearted, arrogant, disrespectful, and hostile towards a fellow believer?   Well…???

 

Conclusion

 

     By God’s grace I’ve set my point in this study before our readers, while also trying to get across the great truths of God’s end-time message, and I have done so whether some like what I’ve had to say or not.   May the Lord bless the truth of His Word and also carry this appeal home to the hearts of all of my fellow believers who read this message.  I close with God’s own precious word,

     We know that we have passed from death unto life, because we love the brethren…….Hereby perceive we the love of God, because He laid down His life for us: and we ought to lay down our lives for the brethren,” 1 John 3:14-16.

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     Fellow believers, please use this study as the Lord may lead you.  Please address all correspondence to:  Pastor F. M. Riley, 184 County Road 108, Harrisburg, Missouri 65256, or I can be contacted via email at:   fmrglbd5@yahoo.com 

Nando

Aug 17, 2011 The progression of religion in the world in map form ( Fay “Maps of War”)

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To understand the historical importance of religion and Christianity in the world it is important to see the movement of religion in graphic form.

The video in this post is an excellent historical pictorial representation of the effects of religion in the affairs of nations throughout history. The present conflict becomes well understood by seeing the progression of the maps locating the different major religions of the world.

One is true the others are Satan’s counterfeits.

Nando

http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/aug2011/fay817.htm

Fay (17 Aug 2011)
Maps of War


Hi John and Doves,

A terrific clip showing the world’s religions. Very short and succinct.

http://www.mapsofwar.com/images/Religion.swf

Fay

Nando

Written by twelvebooks

August 17, 2011 at 6:22 pm

March 27, 2011 Ten Virgins Parable and the Raptures

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Thanks to Josua we have this wonderful link to the explanation of the parable of the ten virgins and the different Raptures of the church of Jesus Christ. It is a late hour and I must stop reading and post this article today. In this blog I had posted my ten virgins interpretation,but this link goes much deeper and with more detail. I would not miss it .

If all does not happen as it is related is because we are fallible humans, but it is a very good interpretation of these prophecies.

Nando

Josua (26 March 2011)
“To: Lewis, the 10 Virgins are not the church”


Dear Lewis

I really appreciate your approach in getting the parable of the 10
virgins right. I have been praying for about 1 year to really
understand the 10 virgins correctly and have never really 100% trusted
anything I ever read about it.

The main thing that always puzzled me was: what exactly is the oil?
Surely if it simply represents the holy spirit, the 5 wise virgins
wouldn't mind sharing it with the 5 foolish virgins, and also it could
not be possible buy it somewhere. So again and again I prayed and
begged God to reveal to me the true meaning of the oil and the whole
parable.

Just about 1 week ago, I found the following article, which I'd like
to warm-heartedly recommend to you (and everybody else in search for
the truth! ) as an alternative analysis and interpretation to yours:
http://www.ffruits.org/firstfruits02/thetenvirgins.html

Only after I read that article (as well as the following one:
http://www.ffruits.org/firstfruits02/ComingRapture.html) I was finally
satisfied. It confirmed so many of my own thoughts and perfectly
closed some itching gaps and most importantly led to inner peace and
boosted my intimacy with Jesus so much more!

Watch and pray!
Maranatha!!
YBIC, Josua

LETTER 11 (JUNE 30, 2008) WHAT I SAW SATURDAY AND SUNDAY ABOUT THE NUMBER 8

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June 30, 2008

WHAT I SAW SATURDAY AND SUNDAY ABOUT THE NUMBER 8

Saturday at 8 PM we went to the movies to see Mongol a rendition of the live of Genhis Khan whose military victories stopped in Italy just at the entrance of Rome.

Early in the morning I had been reading the article of John Tng (21 Apr 2008) The Year of the rapture and the Greek gematria of the name of Jesus which is 888. I read over it but did not study it, and its meaning of these concepts is new to me.

After the movie about 10.30 PM we were driving home and shortly after we left the theater there is a car license plate in front of mine with the # V88 8ER. I told my wife look at this plate it is the number of Jesus and the first letter is V, the first initial of my last name. She answered: Now you say another # for Jesus and not the 777 or the 77 which you always mention. I explained to her what I have read that morning and printed it out of my computer. I do not think she read it.

Sunday, at 7 PM we decided to visit my mother who had been sick. We stopped to get yogurt for her to replenish her flora killed by heavy antibiotics she is taking. I park in the only space beside the entrance and the car to my side had the license U77 0ER. I wrote it down and told my wife. A few minutes after another car in front of us had license platesV17 7RR. Again I showed my wife and asked her what she thought. After the visit we decided to go eat dinner. One block before the restaurant on the lane to the left of our car was the left turn lane, in this lane there were three cars with the license plates with the number 88 on it. AZU 88_, 488 ___, T88 ___. After dinner one block from home there is another car parked with the plates T88 ___. I saw a total of four 88 in a relative short trip.

This morning I read the letter from pastor Riley about the 888 and his believe that the rapture can occur on the month of August. I firmly believe this to be the case. If you read the beginning of this blog you will see how it happened. I believe that Pentecost can be after 50 days from the seven weeks as stated by Cindy Bush on her letter published June 21 on fivedoves.com

I sure hope this is the case and awaiting His coming at the Rapture as always

Yours in Jesus Christ

Nando

http://twelvebooks.wordpress.com/

Update:

Tonight, my son looked for the movie Mongol and found that it was rated by critics 88%. Again, the 88.

Written by twelvebooks

June 30, 2008 at 2:24 pm

Communication with God

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This letter will follow a different path than the first four. First I will explain in plain terms to those of you readers which do not know about or have heard of the events that are mentioned or linked here. The letters are a warning and they are about love, hope, knowledge, communication and for sure about the future. They are not about the writer, his ego, delusions, imaginings or self aggrandizement.

They are first of all a message from your Creator as the writer sees it. They are facts which have been witnessed by several of my family and many people apart from them.

First let us talk about their meaning. They imply to me that God who has been relatively silent in the affairs of men is about to shock the world into knowing and acknowledging Him for whom He is or forever perish by denying Him.

Jesus Christ is about to take all of His church from the earth so that their presence will no longer deter evil or all the manifestations of it. He will protect His people by taking them to the clouds. Before He takes the living He would have resurrected the dead in Christ into eternal live and will be in the clouds waiting for the rest of us.

After this event takes place a period of time called the tribulation which is 7 years of duration will accost the earth with a vengeance.

In this time an evil man will be indwelled by a fallen spirit called Satan and will control the world and every one in it. During this time those who come to believe in Jesus Christ as Lord and savior will save their souls but loose their lives temporarily. At the end of these seven years Jesus returns to earth to vanquish His enemies and start a kingdom of a thousand years. All these events are listed in the bible and if you the reader do not have one get it fast and start reading.

In the first letters I have mentioned how Jesus has communicated with me thru numbers and events thru the years and I am sure that many of you readers have had a prayer answered or an event happening that shows you that He listens and responds to seeking hearts. He responds with love, care, compassion and many other ways. For those who have never heard of Him He is willing to have
an intimate relationship with you as a father to a son or daughter.

Long ago the two first humans created had a daily conversation with the Creator of the entire Universe. After them He has spoken directly to other humans like Abraham, Moses, Joshua, Samuel, David, the prophets and many others in the Old Testament. Then He came to earth as Jesus Christ and He walked with men until His death. Afterwards by His own power He resurrected and appeared too many disciples, the last one being John which wrote the Book of Revelation. Most of the people He talked too were not expecting His Word and were surprised and astonished when it happened. I too am very surprised that what has happened to me and now happens to members of my family is a very effective way of communication with our God and Creator.

Now for the facts that occurred yesterday. At six in the afternoon I left my house to go to Office Depot. The first moving car that I see was about three blocks from home and his license plate at the front end of the car was MS777. At the store when I was leaving a car had the plates GXB8699, and on my return in a neighbors house two houses away there are two SUV , the first has a license 968 KTN the second X66 3EK. The probabilities for the 777 to be the first car I see are 1/1000 and this message from Jesus sets the tone for the trip. Alert message is coming. The G is God, the 8 is the day the 6 is the month the 99 is the end. The 968 KTN have the same #’s but the last one has 66 which is the last book of the Bible the book of Revelation.

Last night we saw a very good movie called Starting Out in the Evening. This movie is about a writer at the end of his live that hasn’t finished a novel he started 10 years ago and at the urgings of a female college student he sits to finish. The analogy is not lost and it is 6.30 AM and these words are flowing into my keyboard with great urgency because the time is at hand.

I hope to increase your faith by the testimony I have been giving and in the hope of doing this even more I am taking you on a journey to the beginning of it all. It was the month of October on a Sunday afternoon of the year 1977 days after daylight saving time for the fall. The sun was setting at 6 PM and I sat in my living room to read a book I had bought a year before. This book La Biblia de Jerusalem in Spanish was my first one bought. The afternoon was beautiful and I decided to open the front door of my apartment which was in the ground floor and the parking lot was five feet away. I sat down to read the Bible and pray and the sun started to appear full size at the door and irradiating the living room with light. At that moment a white dove came flying into the apartment and landed at the mat of the door, no more than seven feet away. This was the moment that transformed my life. The dove stood there not moving and I not moving looking at each other like two gunslingers in a western movie, not knowing who was going to flinch first. God why have you done this to me and what am I to do. I know that the Holy Spirit has been represented by a white dove and whether it was Him or a manifestation of Him a clear message was being sent. The dove stood there for the better part of three long minutes and not holding the anxiety any longer I stood to go to the kitchen to get a piece of bread to give the dove. A few seconds latter I looked back to the door and it was gone. Went out and did not see it fly away.

I sat down and meditated about what had just happened. I knew that I had been given a very important gift of faith and that the Lord wanted to emphasize the importance of prayer and reading the Word in the Bible. I made a commitment to do this for the rest of my life and so I have done.

If you think this story is ending that there is no more to come and that this is the climax of the events that is not so.

We keep going back a few years to 1974 and 75. At that time I used to paint in oil and The Lord was already working in my mind to prepare me for the events that were to follow.

The painting whose photo you see here was done in 1974 and if you look closely you will see a man reading a book in front of a sofa and there is a bird in the opened window with his face on it. There is also a fish in the tank that also has his face. And a painting of a woman which I used a picture of an actress as if this was the woman in his life. I called the painting awareness. The man becomes aware of two different realities by projecting himself into these two animals. The first is a prisoner with a monotonous existence the other is free to roam with all the implications of excitement and danger that freedom gives.

Well I was reading that book sitting on that sofa and with the door opened when the dove came in three years later. The next picture shows the sun behind the cross illuminating humanity, and with those that reject Him shown as a soldier and those who do shown as a kneeling woman.

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June 8, 2008 at 6:25 pm

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