Twelve Books – Rapture, Antichrist, False Prophet, End Time Signs, Bible Prophecy, Nando

End Times Bible Prophecy News and Articles

Posts Tagged ‘United States in Bible prophecy

Dec 5, 2014 Do not harm the oil or the wine and the Shemitah 2014-2015

with 22 comments

It has always been a mystery to me what God said about the oil and the wine in Rev 6-6 that follows. 5When the Lamb opened the third seal, I heard the third living creature say, “Come!” I looked, and there before me was a black horse! Its rider was holding a pair of scales in his hand. 6Then I heard what sounded like a voice among the four living creatures, saying, “Two poundsa of wheat for a day’s wages,b and six poundsc of barley for a day’s wages,d and do not damage the oil and the wine!”.

In the last few days or weeks we have seen the price of a barrel of oil collapse to the mid $60’s and it keeps falling down. This effect is the direct cause of an over supply of oil coming into the market as the USA shale oil is increasing production with the direct result of independence from oil of antagonistic nations to the USA.

There can be several ramifications beyond the economic realm as nations like Russia, Iran, Venezuela and the Arab gulf nations experience a depression of their economies that could lead to instability and even war.

It is well to notice a Biblical law of God called the year of the Shemitah which goes from September 2014 to September 2015 and that causes economies to collapse and brings the downfall of nations. Prior posts here explain this law which can be seen acting this year as well as in 2001 and 2008 in the economies of the world as that of the USA.


OPEC Shale Spat Won’t Cut U.S. Output as Profit Seen at $25 Oil

Joe Carroll 7 hrs ago
© Bloomberg

OPEC’s price war against the American shale industry will erode drilling budgets, shrink profits and even bankrupt some companies. It won’t do the one thing cartel leader Saudi Arabia wants: reduce U.S. production.

In the three geologic formations that account for 88 percent of U.S. shale oil output — North Dakota’s Bakken and the Eagle Ford and Permian in Texas — explorers can drill new wells profitably in some areas even if crude falls to $25 a barrel, according to a team of analysts led by Manuj Nikhanj at ITG Investment Research Inc. That’s less than half yesterday’s $67.38 closing price for U.S. crude.

The basins most vulnerable to the ravages of a price war are those with lower-producing wells such as the Eaglebine in east Texas and Denver-Julesburg in Colorado. Their higher costs and middling output mean explorers operating there require average prices of $75 to $84 a barrel to make new drilling worthwhile.

While a map of winning and losing shale regions can be drawn from Canada to Louisiana, the bottom line is that the most prolific fields will keep production churning where it counts the most. Oil companies can be counted on to more aggressively concentrate on these “lower risk fields that are a lot cheaper to drill and faster to cash,” said Troy Eckard, chief executive officer at Eckard Global LLC, a Dallas-based investor in more than 260 Bakken shale wells.

Market Tailspin

Oil markets have been in a tailspin since June as weakening growth in global demand met surging production in North America to deflate prices 28 percent. In refusing to cut output when its 12 member countries met on Nov. 27, the Organization of Petroleum Exporting Countries is trying to force the U.S. shale industry to bear the brunt of a market rebalancing by pressuring it to pullback on drilling.

“We are entering a period of extreme volatility in oil because the Central Bank of Oil just resigned its position,” Paul Sankey, an analyst at Wolfe Research LLC and former International Energy Agency researcher, said in a note to clients. OPEC’s inaction in the face of tumbling prices means “the notoriously boom-bust” U.S. energy industry becomes “the price setter for global oil prices.”

Oil futures in New York fell as much as 60 cents to $66.78 a barrel today.

The question becomes what kind of staying power the shale producers can muster, and whether OPEC — particularly its weaker members who already favor a production cut — can hold out as long.

Bullseye Focus

It would take a 50 percent reduction in capital budgets across the industry to halt enough drilling activity for shale output to begin declining, Mark Hanson, an analyst at Morningstar in Chicago, said in an interview. That probably won’t happen unless crude prices continue dropping and stay deflated for an extended period, he said.

“When prices collapse, you concentrate on your best stuff,” Hanson said. Companies will “focus on the bullseye.”

U.S. producers have had years to hone techniques that lower costs and increase output, making major cutbacks less likely than ever. Although the average profitability threshholds in the Big 3 shale zones are about $65 a barrel, some wells can make money at $25, ITG’s Nikhanj said.

And shale is not the whole U.S. story. While it represents the fastest growing new source of oil, 54 percent of U.S. domestic output comes from places such as Alaska and the deep waters of the Gulf of Mexico, as well as older wells in the continental states that have been pumping crude through ups and downs for decades.

Cash Squeeze

Shale explorers have seen their market value fall by more than $150 billion since June as investors worried about disappearing cash flow and whether companies that borrowed heavily to amass drilling acreage, hire crews and lease rigs can survive lower oil prices.

Some drillers have relied on debt to buy drilling rights and rent rigs, doubling energy bonds’ share of the high-yield market to 17 percent since 2008, according to an Oct. 14 report by Citigroup Inc. The $90 billion of debt issued by junk-rated energy producers in the past three years has fallen 13 percent since the crude rout began in June.

Because the amount that drillers can borrow from bank lenders is tied to the value of their reserves, falling prices increase the risk they’ll face a cash squeeze, according to an Oct. 9 report by Spencer Cutter, an analyst at Bloomberg Intelligence in Skillman, New Jersey.

The extra yield investors demand to hold the bonds of energy companies instead of comparable U.S. Treasury securities has more than doubled since June, Bloomberg data show.

‘Nice Cleansing’

Minor shakeouts are a regular occurrence in the oil business when bull runs end. “Low prices are really doing us a favor,” Eckard said. “This will get rid of all the weak players, all the fat, and we’re going to have a nice cleansing in the industry.”

In the meantime, shale explorers are charging ahead with plans to boost production in 2015, albeit with tightened belts and a narrower focus on the richest oil fields in their portfolios. All told, U.S. oil output climbed 7.5 percent since the price rout began on June 20, reaching a record 9.1 million barrels a day in the week ended Nov. 28, according to data compiled by Bloomberg.

In the midst of free-falling crude prices, shale specialist EOG Resources Inc. last month lifted its full-year production growth target to 16.5 percent from an earlier forecast of 14 percent. To ensure ample cash for drilling, the Houston-based company already has locked in prices above $90 a barrel for about 10 percent of its 2015 crude output.

Resilient Producers

Shale producers won’t shut oil wells in response to the market’s collapse because most still are profitable, and even those that aren’t need to provide cash flow for debt service and other corporate expenses.

For an example of how resilient U.S. shale production is in the face of lower prices, one need only look to Continental Resources Corp: the creation of billionaire wildcatter Harold Hamm spent about $5.50 to produce each barrel of crude from its Bakken wells after they’re drilled; in the company’s Great Plains discovery known as the South Central Oklahoma Oil Play, or SCOOP, the cost was 99 cents. Those figures reflect full-year 2013 costs published in the 10-K report Continental filed with the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission and are the most recent available.

Continental, the biggest holder of drilling rights in the Bakken, last month said 2015 output will grow between 23 percent and 29 percent even after shelving plans to allocate more money to exploration.

350 Wells

The Oklahoma City-based company plans to spend $4.6 billion next year — unchanged from 2014 levels — to drill 350 new wells across North Dakota and Oklahoma. That budget is 12 percent less than the $5.2 billion Continental had previously signaled it would spend in 2015.

In North Dakota’s Bakken, where the 1.2 million barrels of daily output exceeds that of Indonesia or Oman, drillers will soon begin shifting rigs from high-cost, low-profit fields in the northern counties of Burke and Divide to richer geologic formations known as the Nesson Anticline and the West Williston Basin, said Gabriele Sorbara, an analyst at Topeka Capital Markets in New York.

The Nesson Anticline and West Williston are homes to fields with names like Sanish and Parshall that have “the best wells” in the entire Bakken, Sorbara said. In addition to Continental and EOG, drillers in the region include Oasis Petroleum Inc. and Hess Corp.

–With assistance from Isaac Arnsdorf, Nabila Ahmed and Sridhar Natarajan in New York.

To contact the reporter on this story: Joe Carroll in Chicago at To contact the editors responsible for this story: Susan Warren at Robin Saponar


The article below is directly related to the one above. Is all this related to the year of the Shemitah that occurs every seven years?

Ending U.S. Oil Export Ban Argument Bolstered by Price Collapse

Zain Shauk, Dan Murtaugh and Laura Litvan 2 hrs ago
© متوفر بواسطة Bloomberg Dec. 5 (Bloomberg) — Collapsing crude prices have given oil producers a new argument for ending a 39-year-old U.S. ban on exports.

With U.S. output at a 31-year high and imports at the lowest level since 1995, producers seeking the best possible price for crude are straining at having to keep sales at home. Removing the ban could erase an imbalance between U.S. and foreign crude prices by expanding the market for shale oil.

A 38 percent decline in crude prices since June, “will weigh into the debate” and help make the case to lift the export ban, said Senator Lisa Murkowski, the Alaska Republican poised to take over as head of the Energy and Natural Resources Committee next year.

Lawmakers in Washington are set to hold a hearing next week on dropping the ban. Murkowski hasn’t decided yet whether she’ll introduce a bill to allow exports. Republicans, who are slated to take control of both houses of Congress next year, have yet to reach consensus on what to do.

The top House and Senate Republicans haven’t yet taken a position on the matter and some rank-and-file members, including Senator Susan Collins of Maine, say they are wary of action because of fears it may lead to higher gasoline and heating-oil prices.

President Barack Obama’s former top economic adviser Lawrence Summers called for ending the ban in September after the Brookings Institution, a Washington policy group, released an analysis showing that exports would lower gasoline prices. White House Press Secretary Josh Earnest declined to say yesterday whether lifting the ban was being discussed or considered by the administration.

Global Competition

The drop in prices exacerbates the pain of the export limit, said Erik Milito, upstream policy director for the American Petroleum Institute, a lobbying group that represents producers including Exxon Mobil Corp.

“This is a global competition for market share,” Milito said. “These other regions around the world want to raise the competitive pressure on U.S. energy and we’re asking our policymakers to at least put the U.S. on a level playing field.”

Since many U.S. refineries use heavier crude, instead of the light sweet variety that comes from shale formations, opening up the export market would give producers more customers. Refiners who benefit from the declining cost of crude they process have fought the idea of exports.

$2 Gasoline

“We support the current system regardless of the price and we are building more capacity to process domestic crude,” said Bill Day, a spokesman for Valero Energy Corp.

A decision by the Organization of Petroleum Exporting Countries last week to keep oil output unchanged has been viewed in the U.S. as an effort to depress prices and slow production growth from shale plays. West Texas Intermediate oil prices fell 10 percent the day after the OPEC decision was announced.

Led by declining crude, gasoline prices fell below $2 a gallon at a station in Oklahoma City this week.

The Government Accountability Office, Congress’s investigative arm, in an October report concluded that exports may lower pump prices by as much as 13 cents a gallon, even as they raise U.S. oil prices. That would happen because gasoline is pegged to Brent, a global benchmark price, rather than West Texas Intermediate, GAO said.

EIA Analysis

Many in Congress are awaiting an analysis from the Energy Information Administration, which collects and analyzes energy data, on the tie between U.S. gasoline prices and global oil markets.

“Should we let our foreign policy be driven by our need for foreign oil like we have for the past 40 years? I think not,” Tom O’Malley, chairman of refiner PBF Energy Inc., told reporters in Houston last month.

Limited crude exports, which include shipments to Canada, have surged to a near-record. The U.S. Commerce Department in June expanded its definition of what kind of oil products can qualify for foreign sale, allowing companies to send it out after minimal processing.

“The international energy markets clearly look very, very different from what they looked like in 1975,” U.S. Energy Secretary Ernest Moniz said at the Council on Foreign Relations in October. “It’s worth a re-examination.”

–With assistance from Angela Greiling Keane, Brian Wingfield and Jim Snyder in Washington.

To contact the reporters on this story: Zain Shauk in Houston at; Dan Murtaugh in Houston at; Laura Litvan in Washington at To contact the editors responsible for this story: David Marino at; Susan Warren at Tina Davis, Will Wade

Nando end

Nov 16, 2014 Pastor Bob follow the Money Trail Nando’s Thoughts

with 2 comments

November 16, 2014

Pastor Bob follow the Money Trail Nando’s Thoughts

First of all it is joyful to hear from you with this well thought reply to Jovial’s articles rebutting your information.

Your vast knowledge and references read is a product of your many years of study and dedication and even your listing of these books to substantiate your points will not make believers of your well written articles in All Roads lead to Rome.

What makes your articles believable are the synchronicity they have with the Bible scenario of the events leading to and during the seven year Tribulation, of which we are at the door.

Back in early 1980 I was already versed in the prophetic scriptures about the end times and had concluded that the Antichrist must come from the USA and the False Prophet from the Vatican. I like many, thought that 40 years from the birth of Israel in 1948 would see the Messianic Kingdom start. So I said in the primaries (8 years before) that Carter definitively was not the AC so whoever won the primaries for the Republican Party must be the Antichrist. Reagan won the primaries and the election to become the President and for the next 8 years I was telling everybody that I came in contact with that he was the AC and that Pope John Paul II was the False Prophet. It turns out that I was wrong and right after all but the premises were off by 46 years. I know now that Obama is the Antichrist and the Jesuit Pope Francis seems to be the False Prophet.

These two facts would fit neatly in the web of deceit and manipulation that are referenced in your articles of the series you posted. It is through the guidance of the Holy Spirit that this is my conclusion today from all the info that I have also read. This without having to look and corroborate the references you gave that some I had also read.

May Jesus Christ, the Holy Spirit and God the Father guide and protect us in these very dangerous and difficult times as we anxiously await the Rapture of the Church in the near future.

Please follow All Roads lead to Rome 1 to 15 on starting in Letters August 24, 2014 for Part 1.

As a last comment I do not think that Jovial is a Jesuit plant and that what he expressed was his believe of what the truth is. The problem is that what is going on is so convoluted and occult that it is hard to comprehend. But Jesus knows and He will let the light shine on the darkness. The Bible should be our anchor to compare for the truth.


Pastor Bob (16 Nov 2014)
“”Follow the Money Trail””

All Doves:

I repeat a previous statement, there is no better slave than the one who thinks he is free! If you had been listening to Attorney Karen Hudes the past year or two, a former senior counsel at the World Bank, and whistle-blower, I might not have had to do my 15-segment on “All Roads Lead to Rome.” Her video posts and news interviews have stated a lot of what I have shared in my basic posts. She does have a web site and posts periodically from what I heard. I have viewed her interviews on various business and news sites on the alternative media of the Internet. She knows how to follow the money to Rome (i.e. the Vatican) and she states such.

In my 15-part segment on “All Roads Lead to Rome” I provided ample documentation, source information, document references to back up what I have previously shared. The bibliography is more than substantial by any standard. One of the books that I listed even tells how the Vatican franchised out its usury business in or about 1823 to the House of Rothschild’s. The RCC was conflicted over the issue of Usury because the Bible condemned Usury, and so by franchising the Vatican’s “money lending at interest” (Usury) business to the Rothschild’s so they [the church] could appear ‘clean’ in the public eyes on the issue by letting the Jewish banking houses take the blame as compensation for their part of their cut of the business. Rome hides behind a curtain of secrecy. They kept the common man from reading the Bible for over 1,200 years, and even chained the Bible to the pulpit of their churches, at least until they could change the Greek Text to write their own versions. Codex Vaticanus does not even contain the book of Revelation according to Vatican sources.

What most people do not seem to understand is that the Vatican always operate under a veil of secrecy. They control world events from behind a curtain of secrecy. From a document that I refer readers to, below, confirms they don’t operate under the guise of short term ‘5-year, or even twenty-year plans’, but rather generational plans of 100-years and more. The pope does not broadcast its agenda through its trolls. The Vatican is like an octopus with its tentacles reaching far and wide. Such was the case with Jesuit “liberation” theology in South and Central America during the 1970’s, and 1980’s. The Jesuits were big time players in the overthrow of governments with bringing about socialism to the peasants.

Jovial replied that America never filed bankruptcy. That is a bald face lie! Furthermore, that is typical Jesuit disinformation. Jesus warned us well in advance about being deceived. America did file bankruptcy in 1933 and is still in bankruptcy, and Congressman James Traficant did not lie in his speech as Jovial wants you to believe. This is why today, ALL American flags in court rooms, federal, state, local government buildings have American flags with a 2-1/2-inch gold-thread fringe. They are symbolic of being under Martial Law, Admiralty Rule, c/o Executive Order #10834, dated August 21, 1959 issued by President Dwight D. Eisenhower.

We [the USA] have been under a state of declared National Emergency Law, since June 5th, 1933. This is the date President Franklin D. Roosevelt declared the USA bankrupt. Do not allow yourself to be deceived, fooled, tricked into believing otherwise by Jesuit Jovial. He obviously has chosen to ignore history, treaties, Presidential Executive Orders, and knows nothing about military regulations pertaining to “Colors & Standards”, as carried by the US Army. I suggest the reader and especially Jesuit Jovial go to – and read ‘Get That Gold Fringe Off My Flag!’ There are many articles on the Internet concerning the USA’s bankruptcy as well as still being under bankruptcy receivership. Jesuit Jovial is counting on the fact that few readers will ever bother to check out the evidence. If you believe the US government does not deceive or lies, then you have not been enlightened of how our government has treated the indigenous Indians of this country.

Every year, the President, whoever is in office at the time, signs and re-affirms “The War Powers Act of 1862″. While this act is reconfirmed every year by the sitting president, it is the law of the land, despite the fact that it is held in temporary suspension and not enforced per se. It’s official, it’s on the books, and could be executed into existence in a heart beat. The USA has been in a perpetual “state of war” under the War Powers Act of 1862. What the War Powers Act does not define, stipulate or state as to just who is the enemy?

I corresponded often with the late congressman James Traficant during his incarceration and following his release from federal prison. I can’t divulge the content of our correspondence but James Traficant, himself a Roman Catholic, but rest assured he did not trust either the Israeli’s or the Vatican. Virtually, most of the American public was and still is oblivious to what James Traficant’s address was telling the public. People are more interested in being kept warm, fed, and entertained than to know how they are being robbed and led to slaughter.

My apology to Bob Anderson, I thought I had listed ‘The Creature From Jekyll Island’ by G. Edward Griffith. It definitely deserves to be on my bibliography along with Eustace Mullins book on the ‘Secrets of the Federal Reserve’. At one time I had read each and everyone of the books I listed on my bibliography list. Four years ago, I donated most of my personal library, approximately 6,200 volumes to a Bible college in Pennsylvania. I retained fewer than two hundred books that I simply could not part with at the time. My wife has been instructed to give them to the same school at my demise.

My bibliography is more than a good start for the genuine ‘Truth Seeker’ wanting to know the truth about who rules America. There are dozens of titles that should be on that list but I could not recall all of them since I had given them away. I only spent fifty years researching and studying these three major subjects: 1. The Bible, 2. Roman Catholicism & Jesuits, and 3. Freemasonry. Jesuit Jovial knows well that the real truth of history is not in the text books, but rather in the private papers, personal memos, letters, diaries, journals, correspondence, even old newspapers of those that made and directed history. I majored in history in college, and graduate school. A point of history here should be noted – there have been over 6,000 books written about the Jesuits, and virtually all of them have been removed from the library shelves of the world. Rome never excommunicated Adolf Hitler, as a Roman Catholic in good standing with Rome, this in spite of his having been responsible for the deaths of countless millions. Perhaps Jesuit Jovial would care to explain to us why Hitler remained in good standing with the Roman Catholic Church? Why did the RCC not excommunicate Hitler?

Several weeks ago I had decided not to post any longer, and to devote my time to other matters. I’m really not interested in playing the Hegelian Dialectic games with Jesuit Jovial so I thought I should retire from posting.

However, in respect to Bob Anderson, Nando, John B, Charles Holler, and the defense of the truth, I had to post one more time. I’ll try to refrain from posting after this post.

The 15 posts on “All Roads Lead to Rome” can be easily verified, that is if you are a Berean and really care about knowing the truth. If you are a ‘Truth Seeker’, then there are a few documents that you should read or view for yourself on the Internet. There is also a 3-part video on the Internet that tells a great deal more about a lot of what I wrote and even confirms a great deal of what I wrote in some of my posts. Don’t just take Jesuit Jovial’s words or even mine for that matter, but simply weigh the evidence for yourself. There is so much more that you do not know.

1. Search out on the Internet a site titled: “Change is on the Horizon”

It is a three part video titled “The American Federal Empire” with a ‘You Tube’ address I.D. at the beginning of the link listing:

Part 1 is titled “Dawn of the Golden Age”
Part 2 is titled “The American Federal Empire”
Part 3 is titled “The Farmer Claims Program”

The narrator is James Rink. Each is about an hour long. Part 2 is the most pertinent to a number of things that I noted in my posts, and is a must view since it addresses much of what I noted in my postings. You could learn a lot if you watched all three segments, but Part 2 is most recommended, it deals with the 20th century and confirms what I said about our being secretly bonded and collateralized as guarantee for payment of the National Debt. I know it is hard for people to believe the truth, and that has been a key reason for its success over the past eighty years. Why would any corrupt government broadcast the real facts? You were not taught this part of history in school. The Internet of today is the most dangerous thing to Lucifer’s minions because it exposes the power-driven sociopaths and psychopaths of the world that want to enslave humanity.


2. Search out a site titled: “Judge Dale (ret.) and “The Great American Adventure”

This is a 5-part document (94 pages) that you have to read in its entirety. A fellow pastor forwarded the document to me back in early 2012.

In searching for this document, use the link that begins with – ‘anticorruption society files’ (preceded with (PDF’) in front). It will be found half way down on the first page listing of links. Some of the earlier preceding links have been deliberately obfuscated to appear confusing with by blocking various means of confusing the reader with links going nowhere. Judge Dale is a retired Federal Judge who became a whistle-blower.

Judge Dale (Ret.) is a pen name for his own safety. Leaking the information in his 94-page document was like an invitation to have a ‘bull’s eye’ placed on his back. This 94-page report confirms a lot of what I posted in my “All Roads Lead to Rome.” One of the interesting oddities that I learned from Judge Dale is that there is a “Judges” school for those appointed to the Federal Bench or are in the Judiciary branch of government.


3. Search out a document titled: “Project Vatican: Blueprint for the Restoration of the Global Kingdom of Jesus Christ.” It is an 11-page PDF document.

This document outlines the Roman Catholic Church’s master plan to restore its power and the restoration of the crossed “Keys” on the RCC Vatican’s Coat of Arms, which was officially lost with the October 31, 1517 beginning of the Reformation by Martin Luther, which severely decimated Rome’s temporal political power and exposed its religious spiritual corruption of the RCC. The “Two Crossed Keys” on the Vatican’s Coat of Arms represent the keys of power: gold and silver for religious power and temporal power.


4. Search out the book, ‘The Grand Design Exposed’ at – and discover for yourself the real Mystery Babylon. John Daniel’s book is on line in its full text. Read it and save a copy to your hard drive, should we lose the Internet some day soon. I do not expect that we will have a free Internet much longer. There are too many alternative news sites and sites that the government wants to shut down permanently.


Everything in the above four references either corroborates or validates my series of posts, or adds further information that corroborates my posts with info I did not know or have access to at the time of my post writings. This is FAR BIGGER than any of us can possibly know the whole story. Jesuit Jovial is a disinformation plant. I would suggest the reader save my 15 parts of “All Roads Lead to Rome” to your hard drive for future referral. It is becoming more and more questionable as to just how long we will have the freedom of the Internet. Already, the control of the Internet has been relinquished by the USA to ICANN, according to the Washington Post of a few weeks ago. ICANN now controls the issuing/terminating of web addresses. This is but the first step in chipping away at the Internet’s freedom of information. Obama’s comments last week about “net neutrality” was nothing more than propaganda, and it will not likely happen. Obama really wants to regulate the Internet as a ‘public utility’.

The four references above are just a few of hundreds that I could provide the reader to check out for themselves. I could refer to hundreds of sources that support my posting information. I selected these four specifically for their comprehensive nature as well as a source to open your eyes to what is taking place.

Believe it or not, we are owned by Rome. Why do you suppose our own government has never made public its Concordat between Washington, DC and Rome. Maybe you were unaware of this fact. This Treaty (Concordat) was made between the Vatican and the Reagan Administration State Department in 1983. The US State Department and other Washington sources continues to refuse all requests! What are they hiding??????? Perhaps Jesuit Jovial has an answer for this deception.

Between 1985 and 2008, I made more than a dozen requests for a printed copy of the ‘Reagan Treaty (Concordat)’ between Washington, DC and the Vatican, and all my requests were denied. Beginning with President Reagan, all inauguration ceremonies were and have since been conducted with the ‘swearing in ceremonies’ facing the pagan Masonic Washington (pagan obelisk) Monument. His [Reagan’s] insistence that ‘Presidential oath ceremonies’ face the Federal Mall and the Washington Monument (pagan obelisk) merely hid the real reason for changing the venue formalities. St. Peter’s in Rome and Federal Mall in Washington, DC are “mirror images” of Mystery Babylon. Go to and read for yourself ‘The Grand Design Exposed’. This book was on my biography list. Rome is all about “SUN” worship and not “SON” worship. THIS BOOK SHOULD OPEN THE EYES OF THE DOVES! The Bible says a lot about “obelisks” and none of it is good!

You cannot obtain a copy of the Washington-Vatican Rome Treaty (Concordat), no matter how hard you try. Not under the Freedom of Information Act; not by personal written request to your congressman or senator! WHAT’S SO SECRET THAT IT HAS NEVER BEEN MADE PUBLIC? The State Department refuses all Freedom of Information Act requests. The fact is “ALL” other Treaties, made with all the other countries of the world are available to read, but NOT the Treaty (Concordat) between Washington, DC and the Vatican! Yes we are subjects of Rome. Of that fact, I have no doubt. One day, the noose will be closed so tight around the necks of America, and you will have to take the “Mark” of the Beast. As I stated previously, keep your King James Bible bookmarked to Revelation, chapters 13 and 17. In order that you know the six references to the “Mark” of the Beast, you will find them in: Rev. 13:17; 14:11; 15:2; 16:2; 19:20; 20:4.

Whether you choose to believe me or Jesuit Jovial is your privilege, but in case I am wrong, I hope and pray you will not have to face the decision to take or reject the “Mark of the Beast” or that you will have the will power to stand against the day you might have to face taking the “Mark” of the Beast. It has been interesting the past few months, especially so when considering the fact that everything that I have posted or shared about the Daniel 9:24-27 interpretation; the Cults; the King James Bible issue; the Textus Receptus; heretics Westcott and Hort; their “eclectic” ‘cut and paste’ version of the New Greek Text; All Roads Lead to Rome; the spurious Apocrypha and pseudepigraphal writings; ALL of these topics I posted on were attacked by Jesuit Jovial, yes, everyone. I expected to be pelted by Roman Catholic spears, but not to the degree of Jesuit Jovial. This is why I stated that his rebuttals were more than just coincidental. They are the words of a true Jesuit troll. The length of his rebuttals reflect a level of formal education that one expects from Jesuit excellence in theology and government. Only a Jesuit would be as capable of his ‘point-counterpoint battle for the minds and hearts of men and women at Five Doves. Hosea 4:6 and Revelation 20:8 are so so relevant for what is coming down the pike.

Keep looking up (Luke 21:28) and God be with you all,

Pastor Bob

Nando end +++

Nov 15, 2014 JD Faraq Nov 9 prophecy update

leave a comment »

Very insightful prophecy update.


Nando end

Nov 8, 2014 Obama will fulfill the roles of the Antichrist, the Mahdi for the Muslims and the Jewish Messiah for Israel

with one comment

The facts presented so well by Mike Curtiss show us Obama knowing his role by the actions he took prior to his nomination and election to the presidency.

The world is so far down the path of perdition that the shouts of watchmen in the wall are ignored and ridiculed. This blog has 55 posts under Obama Antichrist proof and most of this post information is already there, and 313 on Obama that can convince the most determined skeptic of the identity of BHO. But the sad part of all this is that the majority of the world does not care and will follow him all the way to the pit of hell and jump.

There are only about two years left for him to start the role for which he was predetermined, but his role will have to wait till the Lamb, Jesus Christ, opens the first seal on the scroll taken by Him from the one that sits on the throne in heaven (god the Father).


Mike Curtiss (2 Nov 2014)
The Rise of Apollo & the Destruction of ISIS

Hi Friends,

Matt 24:15

When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand:)

Remember that God’s ways are both perfect, and mysterious. I can not recall any prophecy of the Messiah and End Times which has transpired exactly as people have expected.
Yet, each time, the fulfillment is both perfect, and surprising.
So then should we not look for the Anti Christ?  Yes and No, I think we just have to keep our minds open, and put the puzzle together slowly.The mainstream eschatologists expect a European Antichrist (AC).  Well then, are there any other candidates?Many of us look for a Muslim AC from the Middle East. I believe that is much closer to the truth. Walid Shoebat and Joel Richardson explain why in God’s War on Terror. Not least is the fact that the Bible calls him the “Assyrian.” But the Bible also calls him “Pharaoh” and also associates him with Babylon. Accordingly, there is indeed an argument he will be from the Middle East, but these different names may mean something more generic. Rather, I believe he could easily be someone whom the Middle Easterners revere and follow, though he is not Middle Eastern; specifically, I mean a great Muslim.Remember the Muslim doctrine of takiya, or lying to gain leverage until the time of conquest over the infidel. This person will have to not only win the trust of the Jews, but the Temple issue is so difficult that Muslims must also believe he is their messiah, the Mahdi. Only he, I believe could be so powerful and compelling so as to convince them to allow the unallowable – a Jewish Temple on the Mount.

Even the Mahdi though, in my view, can only do this by invoking takiya; i.e., letting the Muslims know he, within seven years, will destroy the Jews, then turn their Temple into a beautiful mosque. Is such a conversion of a Jewish building possible? Yes; all over Europe churches and old synagogues are becoming mosques, and from the beginning of Islam, this has been the case. Witness the beautiful central church in Constantinople, the Hagia Sophia. It became the Muslim central mosque when Constantinople became Istanbul after the Muslim Ottomans conquered it.
Well, who would the Jews in Israel trust then? The answer may lie in another place, where most of the Jewish population not living in Israel lives: the United States. As usual, the Jewish vote in the U.S. is nearly all for the Democratic Party candidate, who this time is Barack Hussein Obama (BHO).
They really like him. He is a luke warm “Christian” by profession, which makes the Jews comfortable, as many, if not most, do not care for evangelical Christians. Moreover he is a social liberal, who closely tracks with the prevailing liberal views among most Israelis. But where is the Muslim connection, and how could he be the AC?
The Muslim connection is that both his father and step father were Muslim. It seems quite possible BHO was not born in Hawaii, as claimed, but in Kenya, with his father’s Muslim family. The BHO people have refused to turn over his original birth certificate, which is currently the object of a federal law suit. Why not? Why not just produce it and make the embarrassing law suit go away? Perhaps because the Hawaiian certificate would be clearly a forgery. Now, once he is President, then he will be able to put that issue to bed one way or the other, considering he will be the most powerful man in the world.
Consider also that his roommates in college were Muslim, and he followed them to that Islamist hot bed of Pakistan, for a “vacation.” (And with whose money, since he was supposed to be so poor?) Until he went on vacation, he was “Barry.” After he came back, he was “Barack.”
Barack in Arabic means “blessed.” Barack Obama was originally named “Baraka.” It is not an African name. It’s an Arabic word meaning “blessed” and comes directly from the Koran. (Hussein is the name of Mohammed’s grandchild, and means “handsome or lovely one”, and Obama in Swahili – an Arabic derivative name from the days of slave traders populating the area – means “bent or crooked one.”)
President Obama Departs The White House En Route To Petersburg, Virginia
There is more. As a sitting senator, he campaigned vigorously for his second cousin, Odinga, in Kenya. Odinga is a radical Islamist, who has lead violent attacks against the Christian tribes in Kenya, after seizing power (he lost that election Obama participated in). Until this violent man of Obama’s clan came along, Kenya had been an island of tranquility in a sea of African violence. No more.
Obama’s money man and mentor in Chicago is a Muslim, and in his biography BHO said if things got ugly in America against Muslims, he would side with them. Again and again, we see that Obama is partial to Islam, though the media strains mightily to hide it. There is even contested evidence that he speaks Arabic.
Now then, could a Muslim be such a closet believer? Yes, such duplicity as this is a mainstream belief in Islam, so long as it is necessary and for Allah’s glory. Would not the chance of becoming the most powerful man in the world be a fine reason to hide his religion?
And so if you have a closet Muslim become President, what does he inherit vis-à-vis the Mideast? First, he inherits from President Bush a major troop presence in Iraq, and a stunningly massive “embassy” complex in Baghdad. The “embassy” tells me we have big, long range plans in this place, a place which any troop who has been there will tell you is an unappealing, sweltering h—hole. But as a base of Mideast power, for launching a “peacekeeping” corps into Palestine, and for controlling the Euphrates, the prophetic gate to Israel, it is excellent
But what about Israel? He would also inherit a very mature “peace process” and an Israel nearly desperate to finally stop the tension and warfare. This is especially true if the peace maker could prevail on those Muslim messiah-philes in Iran to be nice. The Israelis must worry constantly of Iranian nukes. Who, they ask, will teach the Muslims peace? How about a charismatic, liberal American President, who has the world at his feet, and for some unexplainable reason, had most all Muslim leaders acclaim him right after he had a closed-door meeting with them in Turkey?
Next there is the matter of the second Abomination which causes Desolation (AOD), which Jesus indicated would be the clear signal of who the AC will be. Recall in Revelation 2:13 that the provincial city of Pergamum is called the “seat, or throne, of Satan.” That phrase seems odd there, almost a non sequiter. But perhaps God was providing an acid test of the Anti Christ for us.
In the Greek, the phrase “where Satan’s seat is” literally means, “where a throne to Satan is.” Scholars identify this throne or ‘seat’ as the Great Altar of Zeus that existed in Pergamos at that time.
Pergamum was famous for its Temple to Zeus. Christian scholars of Greek mythology believe Zeus is an “analog”, or another name, for Satan. This temple was the foremost temple to Zeus in the former Greek empire, and built by the local king, Eumenes II. Eumenes was a mentor to none other than Antiochus IV Epiphanes; yes, the very Seleucid king who committed the first AOD by erecting a statue of Zeus in the Temple and slaying a pig on the alter in honor of . . . Zeus.
Antiochus was the son of the Seleucid king defeated by the Romans as their empire spread to the Mideast. He was a Parthian (Iranian), and ambitious. After his father’s defeat, being an opportunist, Antiochus went to Rome, seeking permission to take his father’s throne. The area he wanted to rule included Jerusalem. Yet the Roman Senate did not trust him, and said no.
But Antiochus Epiphanes IV was not so easily deterred, and went to Pergamum to bide his time. There he met Eumenes, who was building his soon-to-be famous Temple to Zeus. Eumenes became Antiochus’ sponsor, as Antiochus built his influence and power, until the Roman Senate relented and made him Seleucid king of the Syrian area. While in Pergamum Antiochus no doubt worshipped often at the Zeus temple. He was known for his zealous evangelism for Zeus worship, and who knows what spiritual infestation occurred there?
He was not only a worshiper of the Zeus cult, but a brutal man, who so enraged the Jews, that they rebelled. He defeated them temporarily, and during that time, committed the AOD.
Fast forward about 2000 years. The German archeologists are in Pergamum. They approach the Muslim Ottoman rulers with a proposal to buy this old pagan temple to Zeus, and move it to Berlin. As we know, Muslims are not fans of any culture but Islam, and quickly assented. Thus the German spirited (sorry) the entire temple to Berlin, where they built a massive museum in the 1880’s, restored the Temple and rebuilt it right in the museum. It became quite famous and an icon of Greek architecture, recognized by educated people around the world.
Fast forward again about 50 years. A young Austrian art aficionado named Adolph Hitlermust have been especially enamored of it. Or at least his first propaganda minister (when Hitler gained power), Albert Speer, was. Because he and Hitler determined to put on the most grandiose political theater in history, and the Temple played a central role. What followed were the infamous Nuremburg speeches, which were immortalized in the propaganda film “Triumph of the Will.”
Hitler speeches
Hitler gave a series of mesmerizing speeches to the assembled masses. It was a coming out party of a sort, where the world realized this was no ordinary politician. He seemed imbued with an almost hypnotic ability to say nothing in particular, but in a way which enraptured the youth. And he did it while speaking from a replica of Berlin’s most famous ancient museum piece: The Temple of Pergamum, aka The Temple of Zeus, aka The Throne of Satan.
Startlingly, Hitler was both a fanatical hater of Jews, and an ardent admirer of Islam. He felt Islam had a wonderful martial air to it, and rued the day that Charles Martel and General Sobieski, about 1000 years apart, twice stopped the Muslims from over running Europe. He felt the Arabs were clearly inferior to the Germanic peoples, and that, if the Germanic/Aryan people could have been marinated in Islam, they would have been much stronger, and so Islam would have been stronger.
By the way, Hitler’s special guest in Berlin throughout WWII was the Mufti of Jerusalem, who shared Hitler’s loathing of the Jews, and later nurtured a young Palestinian who came to call himself Yasser Arafat.
Fast forward about another 75 years. Another fascinating and charismatic young politician, who mesmerizes huge German crowds with rousing speeches, is in Berlin. His name isBarack Hussein Obama. Obama does something no American Presidential candidate has ever done, which is give major foreign policy speeches abroad. His largest, most triumphant speech is in Berlin where adoring youthful crowds, representing much of Europe, listen raptly as he says, well, nothing. But he does it so well.
So did BHO visit the Museum of the Temple of Pergamum in Berlin while he was there? Presumably he did. As his hosts showed off their city, surly they must have taken him to their famous museum. Did he see it? If so, did he receive any spiritual signals, or any power, or any anointing from the Throne of Satan, like perhaps Hitler and Antiochus before him? We do not know.
What we do know was that BHO, came back to nail down the Democratic nomination for President in Denver, Colorado. There he made a bold, or some said arrogant, decision to accept his party’s nomination in a massive football stadium, hoping to fill it with up with 100,000 fans. The numbers were unprecedented for an American political speech, except for him. This young rock star politician seemed able to conjure up crowds that size at will.
However, even his staunch supporters felt uneasy that the stage he demanded to speak from was rather un-American and pretentious. He wanted to give a speech from a replica of a Greek building! Jokes about him wearing a toga ensued, but he pressed on.
As photos of its construction were spread around the Internet, a Christian author and blogger named Joel Richardson gained some instant notoriety across the Internet by demonstrating that this building was a dead ringer for the Temple at Pergamum. The BHO people made some weak excuses that it represented the U.S. capitol and White House West Wing combined. But expert scholars agreed with Richardson; it was a replica of the Temple of Pergamum.
So, curiously, Obama chose to deliver his rousing political coming-out speech to the assembled, mostly youthful, masses from a replica of the Throne of Satan, just like Hitler had done many decades ago. Of course the oblivious U.S. media had no idea, and wrote Richardson off as a nut, as their hero – a man certain people across the United States were openly calling a messiah – hurtled toward his date with destiny.
Government representatives make an oath before taking public office, and witnesses in a court of law take an oath to “swear to tell the truth” before offering testimony.
These principles are deeply rooted in the Judeo-Christian faith as well as most other religions. Though there is no way of knowing what the Presidential Oath of Office deeply means to Obama or whether the blunder and redo of the swearing in ceremony was anything more than an accident, the unprecedented gaffe was suspicious to some as possibly representing important hidden meaning. Misgivings over it were additionally compounded when reflected against other curious activities and declarations by Barack Obama, which most of the media missed, downplayed, or simply refused to report on, that strongly connected his emergence with occult mythology identified in the Bible as both prophetic and demonic.An extraordinary example of this was when Obama gave his speech in Berlin, Germany, on July 24th, 2008, titled “The World that Stands as One.” More than a few students of occult history took notice of the symbolism and location of the event, even causing some who until then had rejected any “antichrist” labels hurled at Obama to reconsider their position. This included respected Catholic writer Michael O’Brien, best known for his apocalyptic novel Father Elijah. O’Brien had received numerous letters and emails from subscribers and visitors to his website wondering if Obama was the Antichrist.At first O’Brien wrote that this was not possible. Then a friend that had seen Obama’s speech in Berlin called him, talking about how mesmerizing the speech was and that an announcer over German radio had said: “We have just heard the next President of the United States… and the future President of the World.” By now Obama was conveying an unusual likeness to the Antichrist character of his novel. After watching the Berlin speech several times for himself, O’Brien sent out a newsletter in which he admitted that, while he still doubted Obama was the prophesied ruler of the end times, he had come to believe he was “a carrier of a deadly moral virus, indeed a kind of anti-apostle spreading concepts and agendas that are not only anti-Christ but anti-human as well.” O’Brien finally conceded Obama could be instrumental in ushering in the dreaded Great Tribulation period, and worse, that he was “of the spirit of Antichrist.”[1] After Obama’s term of office was underway, O’Brien pointed out the numerous foreign and domestic problems Obama was facing, including wars in Afghanistan and Iraq, the possibility of a new war with Iran, and issues related to the crumbling financial systems, saying these obstacles could overshadow Obama and lead to his defeat in the next presidential election. O’Brien then added in what was a clear reference to the coming of Antichrist, “Alternatively, he could become the ‘Great Facilitator,’ negotiator, peacemaker, working marvels throughout the world as he moves from one seemingly unsolvable problem to another.”[2]

Because it is true that any significant public political event requires both forethought and symbolic meaning, the location where Obama gave his Berlin speech in front of Berlin’s Victory Column contributed to O’Brien’s conclusions. The site was offensive to educated Germans as well as to Christians and Jews because of its ties to Adolf Hitler and the Nazis. It was nevertheless oddly appropriate, for it was upon this exact location that Hitler had planned to enthrone himself in the Welthauptstadt Germania—the new “World Capital” upon winning World War II.
During the 1930s, Hitler commissioned Albert Speer “the first architect of the Third Reich” to design the new capital. As part of the plans, the “Siegessäule” or Berlin Victory Column—a 226-foot monument topped by a golden winged figure representing Borussia, the female personification of Prussia, and Victoria, the cult goddess of military victory—was removed from its location in front of the Reichstag building in 1939 and relocated to its current location in the Tiergarten, a 495 acre park in the middle of Berlin where Obama gave his speech in front of the Nazi symbol.
Rainer Brüderle, deputy leader of the liberal political party Free Democrats in Germany complained to the newspaper Bild am Sonntag: “The Siegessäule in Berlin was moved to where it is now by Adolf Hitler. He saw it as a symbol of German superiority and of the victorious wars against Denmark, Austria and France.” This represented a serious question In Brüderle’s mind as to “whether Barack Obama was advised correctly in his choice of the Siegessäule as the site to hold a speech on his vision for a more cooperative world.” [3] Another German politician named Andreas Schockenhoff was equally disturbed, saying, “It is a problematic symbol.”[4]
Evidently it was not problematic for Obama, who stood in front of it and saluted the German audience in a way eerily similar to what Adolf Hitler used to do, followed by thousands returning the salute, which is against German law. When Obama ended his speech in front of the war goddess, he said, “With an eye toward the future, with resolve in our hearts, let us remember this history, and answer our destiny, and remake the world once again.” This is exactly what Hitler had promised to do and exactly where he had planned to memorialize it.
Of greater significance and not far from where Obama delivered his rousing speech, is the Great Altar of Zeus in the Pergamon Museum. According to several reports, Obama visited the Great Altar while in Berlin, which is especially important given what he did on returning to the United States. Before we examine Obama’s revealing actions, consider carefully what the Bible says about the Altar of Zeus in the letter to the church in Pergamos (Pergamum, Pergamon).
“And to the angel of the church in Pergamos write; These things saith he which hath the sharp sword with two edges; I know thy works, and where thou dwellest, even where Satan’s seat is: and thou holdest fast my name, and has not denied my faith, even in those days wherein Antipas was my faithful martyr, who was slain among you, where Satan dwelleth” (Rev. 2:12-13).
In the Greek, the phrase “where Satan’s seat is” literally means, “where a throne to Satan is.” Scholars identify this throne or ‘seat’ as the Great Altar of Zeus that existed in Pergamos at that time. So important was the worship of Zeus in ancient Pergamos that perpetual sacrifices were offered to him upon the towering and famous 40-foot high altar. Antipas, the first leader and martyr of the early Christian church is believed to have been slain on this altar, slowly roasting to death inside the statue of a bull, the symbol and companion of Zeus. The phrase in Revelation 2:13 “wherein Antipas was my faithful martyr, who was slain among you, where Satan dwelleth” is considered a citation of this event.
Denver Speech
Approximately two-thousand years after Revelation 2:13 was written, German archeologists removed the massive altar of Zeus from the ruins of Pergamos and took it to Berlin, where it was restored as the centerpiece of the Pergamon Museum. It is here that Hitler first adored it, later building an outdoor replica of it from which he gave a series of speeches that mesmerized many Germans.
“Fast forward about another 75 years,” says blogger El Gallo. “Another charismatic young politician mesmerizes huge German crowds with a rousing speech in Berlin. Barack Hussein Obama…. [and] did Barack Obama visit… the Great Altar of Zeus…? Presumably he did.”[5]
Whether Obama received inspiration from the throne of Satan while in Berlin or not, what he did next was astonishing. Upon returning to the United States, he immediately commissioned the construction of a Greek-columned stage from which hemade his acceptance speech for his party’s nomination. Because Greek temples such as those built to honor Zeus were thought to house the patron deity, the GOP ridiculed Obama, mocking him as playing Zeus of “Mount Olympus” and accusing his supporters of “kneeling” before the “Temple of Obama.” The New York Post ran an enlightening Convention Special supplement on August 28th, 2008 with the telling headline: ‘O’ MY GOD: DEMS ERECT OBAMA TEMPLE blazoned across the front cover. But it was not until blogger Joel Richardson pointed out how the design of Obama’s stage was a dead ringer for the Great Altar of Zeus [6] that Obama’s campaign managers tried to explain away the design as being a conglomeration representing the portico of the White House with the U.S. capital building. “But experts agreed with Richardson,” Gallo wrote, “it was a replica of the Great Altar of Pergamum.”[7]
Thus, incredibly, like Hitler, Obama had honored the goddess Victoria with his presence before ordering a replica of the biblical throne of Satan built, upon which he accepted his date with destiny.
A final troubling disclosure at the conclusion of this entry may cast light on why Obama seemed fascinated with such anti-Christian symbolism in the lead-up to his election victory. A Hadith (tradition) sacred to Shiite Islam from the 17th century contains a prophecy from Ali ibn Abi-Talib, which predicts that just before the return of the Mahdi (the end-times redeemer of Islam), a “tall black man will assume the reins of government in the West.” This leader will command “the strongest army on earth” and will bear “a clear sign” from the third imam, Hussein. The prophecy concludes that: “Shiites should have no doubt that he is with us.”
Does this Islamic prophecy identify Obama as the “promised warrior” who comes to help the savior of Shiite Muslims conquer the world? Amir Taheri asked this very question for Forbes Magazine in October, 2008, pointing out how “Obama’s first and second names—Barack Hussein—mean ‘the blessing of Hussein’ in Arabic and Persian” while his “family name, Obama, written in the Persian alphabet, reads O Ba Ma, which means ‘he is with us,’ the magic formula in Majlisi’s tradition.”[8]
[Editor’s note: This series is based on research contained in Tom Horn’s book: APOLLYON RISING 2012: The Final Mystery Of The Great Seal Revealed. Sign up to be notified when APOLLYON RISING 2012 is released and get$60.00 IN FREE GIFTS! Sign up here!]
Leap forward to 2009, and Barack Hussein Obama on June 4 gave an unprecedented speech to the Muslim world from Cairo, Egypt declaring that he is launching a new era between the United States and the Muslim world. For the first time, Obama was forthright about his Muslim heritage and stated that the United States—which he is on record as saying is “no longer a Christian nation”—is now “one of the largest Muslim countries in the world.” Newsweek editor Evan Thomas followed the president’s speech with a declaration reflected in the opinion of many, that “Obama is standing above the country, above the world, he is a sort of God.”

Nando end


Nov 2, 2014 Thanks to Jovial and pastor Bob for their con and pro articles on All Roads Lead to Rome

leave a comment »


Thanks to Jovial and pastor Bob for their con and pro articles on All Roads Lead to Rome

In this rebuttal to pastor Bob, Jovial breaks down one after the other facts posted by pastor Bob in his series all roads lead to Rome.

The two persons that are involved in this polemic are both Christians in my opinion and have voiced there opinions in very well written and articulated articles.
Verifying the claims by either is difficult unless you are highly skilled in a lot of subjects that bear into this discussion.

Jovial’s point about disinformation passed on by the true manipulators of the system is very valid and brings us to the fact that most of the info on the Pastor’s series is definitively not readily available to research.

In my opinion it is difficult to believe the main points presented by pastor Bob about the USA and the Vatican and Jovial’s reasoning is sound.

We must understand also how the things mentioned here bear on the end time’s scriptures of the book of Revelation. Chapter 13 mentions a beast coming out of the sea which is the system of the world controlled by Satan that gives its authority to the Antichrist. In chapter 17 of Rev. we see a prostitute woman sitting on a beast.

All these symbols are difficult to interpret and understand but both the beast and the prostitute are working their way to the crescendo that is shown in Revelation.

So without going into much deep thinking, if you are Satan who is the nation you choose that gets the role of the Rev 13 beast? Who commands all the most advance military system in the world? Who controls the financial empire of money (the dollar to put it simple)? Who has the most advanced and powerful military industrial complex with advance scientific knowledge through a university system where all nations send their students to learn?

Then who can be the second beast of Rev 13, and the harlot of Rev 17? It seems to imply a false religious system that is presently in the world. There could only be two possible candidates, the shell of false Christianity left after the Rapture and the Islamic world. Take your pick and you will be right regardless as both will be under Satan then.

My thanks go to Jovial and pastor Bob for the intention of educating the body of Christ in such a critical and profound matter as they see with their different perspectives and arguments.

I am sorry to hear that pastor Bob will not be posting or using the internet any more. Pastor Bob if there is anything that you know that should concern the rest of the doves or Christians all over the world please let us know. The obvious is that there is government snooping by the NSA and the rest of the world spy agencies, but these are the end times and such is expected.

Jovial (2 Nov 2014)
“Why All Roads do NOT lead to Rome “

At , “Pastor Bob” made a number of wild claims about how the Vatican or foreign countries or both are secretly in charge of the US Government. Of course, those two wild claims conflict with each other because if foreign creditors are secretly in charge, how could the Vatican be secretly in charge? It can’t be both. It has to be one or the other. Because many of the allegations are about what happens in secret, one could never prove or disprove them. But perhaps we can judge whether the sources really did their homework by the alleged facts that CAN be looked up.
One false claim made was “Jame (sic) Traifcant (sic) noted that the “figurehead” Secretary of the Treasury works for the IMF, and is not compensated.” and elsewhere he described the Secretary of the Treasury as “unpaid”. This is false. This was offered as evidence that the Dept of Treasury doesn’t really exist and/or is controlled by foreign agents. At it explains that the Secretary of the Treasury is paid $199,700 per year by the Federal Government. It lists the oath of office that the Sec of Treasury has to take, probably a response to internet fear mongering that he doesn’t take an oath. Not only does the Sec of Treasury take an oath, almost EVERY FEDERAL EMPLOYEE takes an oath. I worked for the Federal Courts as a Systems Administrator at one point in my life and I had to take an oath of office. Pastor Bob said, “No record can be found of any such administering the “Oath of Office” to Secretaries of the Treasury over the past twenty years. None whatsoever!”, yet the oath is listed right there on the internet for everyone to read!!!! At you can see a picture of Timothy Geithner taking the oath of office as Secretary of the Treasury in 2009!!!! Yet Pastor Bob tells us “No record can be found” of it. Try Google. You’ll find it fast, Bob. describes the membership of the IMF. Most countries appoint their respective ministers of finance to the governing board, and the USA is no exception. The USA has a voice just like other nations have a voice and the USA appoints the same role specific federal officer that most nations appoint. There is nothing unusual about the USA’s position or appointment. The IMF is a democratically run body made up of individual nations, each of which vote on policy. The USA is under no obligation to follow its orders the same as it is under no obligation to follow United Nations orders. In fact, the USA has the power to VETO ANYTHING ALL OTHER NATIONS on the IMF desire to do. The IMF operates with 204B SDRs as of Sept 4 , 2014 (see for proof) and the USA possesses 42B of those. Again, see since I do not make up wild claims. That means the USA has 20.6% of the vote on the IMF. The IMF requires a voting block of 85% agreement to do anything. They don’t desire to engage in controversial actions and want to avoid controversy. So the USA has enough voting power to deny the will of EVERY OTHER NATION ON THE PLANET!!!! Yet Pastor Bob tried to tell you the Sec of the Treasury is a mere puppet of this organization, bound to do whatever it tells him! Things could not be farther from the truth. If the USA has enough voting power to tell the rest of the world what to do by blocking any decision it does not like, the question is really whether the IMF is the puppet of the USA.
The Sec of Treasury IS INDEED paid by the USA for doing his job as Secretary. He is NOT paid for being on the IMF. That keeps his financial allegiance to the USA, not the IMF.
It was alleged “Federal Law 22 USC 286a(a) requires the President to appoint the US Governor of the IMF. This appointment is given to the Secretary of the Treasury. ” Well…again….someone did not understand what they read. Fed Law 22 USC286(a) can be found at, and it requires the President to appoint SEVERAL people to the IMF, not just one person. Those positions are;
• Person 1: “a governor of the Fund who shall also serve as a governor of the Bank”
• Person 2: “an executive director of the Fund and an executive director of the Bank”
• Person 3: “an alternate for the governor of the Fund”
• Person 4: “an alternate for the governor of the Bank”
There’s no requirement that the Sec of Treasury be one of these people. He cannot be all 4 people. It also says, “The Secretary of the Treasury shall instruct the United States executive director of the Fund to present to the Fund’s Executive Board a comprehensive set of proposals…”, so he cannot be person 2. Pastor Bob alleged “The Secretary of the Treasury is to abstain from from advising them in the discharge of their duties.”, but that statement of course contradicts the law I just quoted in the last sentence. WOW!!!! It is amazing how someone can claim that the law is 100% opposite of what it actually says!!!!!
And of course, the above info about 4 people being appointed was left out because it would have undone the logic behind why the Sec of the Treasury is a mere puppet of the IMF. When you read the whole thing, it because obvious why he cannot be.
It was also alleged that the Sec of Treasury serves on Interpol – the International Police organization. That is a rather wild statement. Why would a financial officer server on interpol? The Department of Justice would seem to appoint that member. I tried to fact check that wild claim, and all I could find was an article that a former UNDER-secretary of the Treasury was recently appointed head of Interpol. That does not mean that the top Sec of Treasury is an ex-officio member of interpol and I suspect that wild allegation came indirectly from someone misunderstanding that news story or something like that.
It was also alleged that the Treasury Department issues Social Security numbers! Well, anyone who has ever applied for one knows you send the application to the Department of Social Security, and you get it back from them. Why would anyone believe the Treasury Dept is in the loop at all? Apparently the level of absurdity to an accusation plays no role in whether it is put out there.
Pastor Bob also said, “Title 12, United States Code, Section 95(b) gives the Secretary of the Treasury complete power over you. ” No it does not. You can find Title 12 at and read it for yourself. It does nothing of the sort. Here’s what 95(b) says,
“The actions, regulations, rules, licenses, orders and proclamations heretofore or hereafter taken, promulgated, made, or issued by the President of the United States or the Secretary of the Treasury since March 4, 1933, pursuant to the authority conferred by section 95a of this title, are approved and confirmed.”
This is merely saying that the actions taken in respect to foreign exchange rates (which is what 95a covers) before the law were passed are recognized as valid even though they were no regulations about foreign exchange rates (again, the topic of 95a) when it was passed. That is all it is saying. Before reading something on the internet and passing it on as fact, it would be beneficial to actually READ the laws being cited rather than simply cite the same law someone else cited who did not understand what he was reading. Check the facts you hear before passing them on. We should not pass on rumors or wild unsubstantiated allegations. And just because someone cites a law does not mean they correctly understood the law they read. READ THE LAW BEFORE QUOTING IT AND CLAIMING TO KNOW WHAT IT SAYS!!!!!
So if all this information that was alleged at about what happens in public is wrong, how much credibility is there to all the other accusations about what happens behind the scenes that no one can prove or disprove? Probably not much. And there were SO MANY errors in that post – just one after another after another – that I probably have not addressed them all. But I have addressed several that are easy to look up the validity of via simply means – like Google – and that should have been looked up before passing the info along.
Pastor Bob was not the source of this info. He was simply passing on what he has read elsewhere, something he often does whether he credits the source or not. However, we should be more careful to check into facts before we pass them along. My guess is that the I11umati may be behind these false rumors. Why? Stop and think about it…..
If you think the Vatican is secretly in charge of the US Government, then you are not suspicious of the people who truly are secretly in charge. And if you research the accusations, you will quickly find that most of them can be easily proven wrong. By throwing easy to disprove accusations on the internet, it becomes easier to discredit ALL conspiracy theories (including those that are true) if 95% of the conspiracy theories out there are wrong. So if you are part of a secret conspiracy, the best way to hide that is not to deny truthful allegations, but to publish false allegations of other conspiracies that are easy to disprove, and thereby destroying the credibility of accurate theories.
That is why we should avoid passing on theories without checking into the facts. Not only do we destroy the credibility of legitimate theories when we do, but we destroy our own credibility as someone who does not check facts.
So my guess is that Pastor Bob was passing on false allegations invented by the I11uminati to misinform us and discredit stories that they are secretly in charge.

Nando end

Nov 1, 2014 Pastor John Haller prophecy updates

leave a comment »

Thanks to KML for providing this link to Pastor John Haller’s prophecy update.

The update is a very thorough coverage of all the news that are related to prophecy in these days.



Another update.

Nando end

October 20, 2014 Putin threatens nuclear war

As the Apocalypse starts with the white horse the USA clashing with the red horse Russia it is pertinent to notice the following article about Putin threatening to unleash nuclear on its enemies over the Ukrainian conflict.

If you cry wolf many times your cries loose effect and the threat has to be delivered or the people will not take it seriously. In this case the article explains the conditions of instability in Russia that make this threat disturbing to say the least.


World War 3: Vladimir Putin Threatens US, Europe with Russia’s 5,000 Nuclear Warheads
By Zachary Stieber, Epoch Times | October 19, 2014
Last Updated: October 20, 2014 3:40 pm
Russian President Vladimir Putin speaks at a news conference after the ASEM summit of European and Asian leaders in Milan, Italy, Friday, Oct.17, 2014. Putin met with Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko and key Western leaders in an attempt to negotiate a full end to hostilities in Ukraine that could ease sanctions against Russia. (AP Photo/Vasily Maximov, Pool)

Russian President Vladimir Putin speaks at a news conference after the ASEM summit of European and Asian leaders in Milan, Italy, Friday, Oct.17, 2014. Putin met with Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko and key Western leaders in an attempt to negotiate a full end to hostilities in Ukraine that could ease sanctions against Russia. (AP Photo/Vasily Maximov, Pool)

More in Europe
European Central Bank (ECB) President Mario Draghi at the annual IMF/World Bank meetings in Washington on Oct. 11. During the summer, the ECB announced that it would impose an interest rate charge on euro deposits. (Nicholas Kamma/AFP/Getty Images)
ECB Policy Hurting Euro Depositors, Bond Yields
Ricardo Limon adjusts a display of streetartist Banky’s work during a media preview for a coming auction at Julien’s Auctions in Beverly Hills, California on June 17, 2014. (AFP/Getty Images)
‘Banksy Arrested in London, Identity Revealed as Paul Horner’ is Fake
From left, France’s Finance Minister Michel Sapin, German Finance Minister Wolfgang Schaeuble, France’s Economy Minister Emmanuel Macron and German Economy and Energy Minister Sigmar Gabriel pose for media prior to a news conference after a meeting at the finance ministry in Berlin, Monday, Oct. 20, 2014. (AP Photo/Markus Schreiber)
Germany, France Discuss Investment Strategies to Help EU Economy

Russia’s President Vladimir Putin has threatened the West with his country’s 5,000 nuclear warheads.

Putin has raised the specter of nuclear war for the third time in the past two months as he and Western countries such as the United States clash over the Ukraine conflict, which has been bringing to light other deep-seated animosity.

Putin made his latest comments while en route to the annual Asia-Europe Meeting in Milan, a summit of 50 nations.

“We hope that our partners will realize the recklessness of attempts to blackmail Russia, and will remember the risks that a spat between major nuclear powers means for strategic stability,” Putin told Serbian newspaper Politika.

“He’s again threatened the West with nuclear weapons,” John Besemeres, a Russia expert at the ANU, told the Sydney Morning Herald. “It seems like a mastubatory fantasy he can’t go without.”

The comments came as New Zealand’s Prime Minister John Key revealed he was bantering with Russian Prime Minister Dmitry Medvedev earlier this year when the latter brought up the issue of nuclear war.

“So we’re having this joke exchange and one point I said to him: ‘How long would it take a missile to get out from Moscow to NZ?’” Key recalled.

Medvedev briefly consulted an aide before turning back to the NZ leader. Key said: “He said, ‘Don’t worry, I’ll let you know before it happens.’”
Russian President Dmitry Medvedev, right, and New Zealand’s Prime Minister John Key, left, in a 2010 file photo. (AP Photo/Mikhail Klimentyev, Pool)

Russian President Dmitry Medvedev, right, and New Zealand’s Prime Minister John Key, left, in a 2010 file photo. (AP Photo/Mikhail Klimentyev, Pool)

And Putin has referenced the warheads two other times recently. In mid-August he told members of Russia’s Duma that he soon planned to “surprise the West with our new developments in offensive nuclear weapons about which we do not talk yet.”

And in September he told a group of youth: “I want to remind you that Russia is one of the leading nuclear powers … It’s best not to mess with us.”

Besemeres, the Russian expert, said that “Putin’s Russia is heading towards a police state internally and a rogue state externally. It’s a very worrying combination.”

Andrew O’Neil, a professor of international relations at Griffith University with insight into Russian nuclear policy, said that there’s one key area in Australia on Russia’s target list–the United States-Australian joint facilities that monitor satellites that fly over eastern Russia.

Dr. Helen Caldicott, an Australian physician who founded the International Physicians against Nuclear War, recently told reporters in Washington, D.C. that a war between Russia and the U.S. would automatically include nuclear weapons.
In this Oct. 1, 1999 file photo a Topol-M intercontinental ballistic missile is launched from the northern Plesetsk cosmodrome in Russia. (AP Photo/Str)

In this Oct. 1, 1999 file photo a Topol-M intercontinental ballistic missile is launched from the northern Plesetsk cosmodrome in Russia. (AP Photo/Str)

“There is no way a war between the United States and Russia could start and not go nuclear,” she said.

“The United States and Russia have enormous stockpiles of these weapons. Together they have 94 percent of all the 16,300 nuclear weapons in the world.”

“We are in a very fallible, very dangerous situation operated by mere mortals,” she warned. “The nuclear weapons, are sitting there, thousands of them. They are ready to be used.”

Russia surpassed the United States for the first time in number of nuclear warheads that are deployed, according to a recent report from the State Department.

Russia now has 1,643 warheads deployed on intercontinental ballistic missiles, submarine-launched ballistic missiles and heavy bombers. The United States has 1,642, said the fact sheet, reported the Washington Times.

“The warhead count for the Russians, based the Sept. 1 report required under the 2010 New Strategic Arms Reduction Treaty (START), shows an increase of 131 warheads since the last declaration on March 1,” it said.
In this photo taken June 24, 2014, 1st Lt. Andy Parthum of Centreville, Va., shows his work area in the underground control room where he and a co-worker work a 24-hour shift at an ICBM launch control facility near Minot, N.D. The crew is responsible for controlling and launching the 10 nuclear-tipped Minuteman 3 missiles located in remote launch sites under their command. Parthum spends his work day 60 feet below ground awaiting the order he hopes never arrives: to launch the most powerful weapon ever devised by man. He is a nuclear

In this photo taken June 24, 2014, 1st Lt. Andy Parthum of Centreville, Va., shows his work area in the underground control room where he and a co-worker work a 24-hour shift at an ICBM launch control facility near Minot, N.D. (AP Photo/Charlie Riedel)

“The U.S. reported a warhead increase of 57 during the same period. It is not clear why the warhead numbers increased.”

Sen. James Inhofe of Oklahoma, ranking Republican on the Senate Committee on Armed Services, wrote in an op-ed in Foreign Policy in reaction to the news that Russian deception in negotiating an arms reduction treaty while building up nuclear arms “poses a direct threat to the United States.”

He said that Russia violated a previous treaty while negotiating the most recent treaty, the START, with the Obama administration. “The White House was at best nave to Russian duplicity; at worst it was complicit,” he said.

Mark Schneider, a former Pentagon strategic weapons specialist, said that the build up confirmed vows by Russian officials to increase their deployed warheads.

“While so little information is released under New START that there is no way to say for sure, the Russian increases appears to reflect the arming of the two new Borey class ballistic missile submarines,” Schneider said.

“All U.S. numbers have declined since New START entry into force. The fact that this is happening reflects the ineffectiveness of the Obama administration’s approach to New START.”

Nando end


Get every new post delivered to your Inbox.

Join 160 other followers