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Letter 23 (11-11-08) PSALM 118.8 THE MIDDLE OF THE BIBLE

November 11, 2008

Letter 23 (11-11-08) PSALM 118.8 THE MIDDLE OF THE BIBLE

This fact is wrong follow the links below for the correct middle of the bible

http://www.biblebelievers.com/believers-org/kjv-stats.html

http://www.fivedoves.com/rapture/2009/Obama_Ge11_Re2221.html

Sorry about the mistake

Nando


Paul N. F. (11 Nov 2008)
TRUST IN THE LORD GOD

IN THIS LETTER (FIVEDOVES.COM) PAUL N.F. HAS USED THE PSALM 118.8. THIS PSALM IS THE MIDDLE OF THE BIBLE (for the verses). PSALM 117 IS THE SHORTEST CHAPTER AND PSALM 119 IS THE LONGEST. PASTOR J.R. CHURCH GAVE THIS INFO IN HIS BOOK PROPHECY IN THE PSALMS.

YOU CAN WATCH HIS PROGRAM IN prophecyinthenews.com IT IS AN EXCELLENT SITE.

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November 11, 2008 at 9:11 pm

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(NOV11, 2008) A WARNING TO AMERICA

DIMITRI DUDUMAN IS A ROMANIAN THAT SUFFERED ENCARCERATION AND GREAT TORTURE ON THE HANDS OF THE ROMANIAN POLICE.  HE WAS MIRACULOSLY DELIVERED BY THE POWER OF AN ANGELIC MESSANGER OF GOD.  I KNEW OF HIS STORY MANY YEARS BACK AND TODAY ONE OF THE DOVES POSTERS PLACED THIS VIDEO FOR READERS TO WATCH.  IT IS A SOBERING MESSAGE AND ALTHOUGH ITS VERACITY HAS TO BE SCRUTINIZED IT HAS A GOOGD CHANCE OF BEING A TRUE ANGELIC REVELATION.

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November 11, 2008 at 4:28 pm

(NOV10, 2008) Obama and our coming constitutional crisis

THE FOLLOWING ARTICLE WAS POSTED BY FIVE.DOVES.COM TODAY

Obama and our coming

constitutional crisis

Posted: November 08, 2008
By Ellis Washington
WND
1:00 am Eastern

© 2008

I was in the delivery room in [Mombosa,] Kenya, when he was born Aug. 4, 1961.

~ Obama’s paternal grandmother

Nothing is more important than enforcing the Constitution.
~ Philip Berg, petitioner – Philip J. Berg v. Barack Obama, et al. (2008)

As President-elect Barack Obama ascends to the presidency of the United States, there still remains a looming cloud above his head like the sword of Damocles. If and when that sword will fall plunging America into a constitutional crisis depends on a number of desperate and remarkable variables.

Before I get into these variables, let’s examine what the Constitution says. What are the requirements to become president? Section 1 of Article II of the U.S. Constitution states that a president must:

  • be a natural born citizen of the United States;
  • be at least 35 years old;
  • have lived in the U.S. for at least 14 years.

The inevitable constitutional crisis regarding Obama, of course, revolves around his inability (or unwillingness) to produce an authentic Hawaiian birth certificate with the raised certificate stamp that the Federal Elections Commission can independently verify.
I know there are those who say Obama has produced an authentic birth certificate and posted it on his website, but experts and amateurs alike quickly found numerous errors in that document and deemed it a forgery (and a bad one at that).

Philip J. Berg, a Democratic operative and former deputy attorney general of Pennsylvania, has assumed the tragic role of Prometheus, ascended Mount Olympus, the abode of Zeus, and has launched a one-man campaign to force Obama to verify his U.S. citizenship by suing the senator, the Democratic National Committee and the Federal Election Commission, to verify that indeed he is worthy to be president of the United States by producing a real birth certificate.

Here are some of the unanswered issues hanging over the head of President-elect Barack Obama and the question of his American citizenship cited in an earlier article by WND news editor Drew Zahn:

  • The allegation that Obama was born in Kenya to parents unable to automatically grant him American citizenship;
  • The allegation that Obama was made a citizen of Indonesia as a child and that he retained foreign citizenship into adulthood without recording an oath of allegiance to regain any theoretical American citizenship;
  • The allegation that Obama’s birth certificate was a forgery and that he may not be an eligible, natural-born citizen;
  • The allegation that Obama was not born an American citizen; lost any hypothetical American citizenship he had as a child; that Obama may not now be an American citizen and even if he is, may hold dual citizenships with other countries. If any, much less all, of these allegations are true, the suit claims, Obama cannot constitutionally serve as president.
  • The allegations that “Obama’s grandmother on his father’s side, half brother and half sister claim Obama was born in Kenya,” the suit states.”Reports reflect Obama’s mother went to Kenya during her pregnancy; however, she was prevented from boarding a flight from Kenya to Hawaii at her late stage of pregnancy, which apparently was a normal restriction to avoid births during a flight. Stanley Ann Dunham (Obama) gave birth to Obama in Kenya, after which she flew to Hawaii and registered Obama’s birth.”
  • The claim could not be verified by WND inquiries to Hawaiian hospitals, since state law bars the hospitals from releasing medical records to the public;

Even if Obama produced authenticated proof of his birth in Hawaii, however, the suit claims that the U.S. Nationality Act of 1940 provided that minors lose their American citizenship when their parents expatriate. Since Obama’s mother married an Indonesian citizen and moved to Indonesia, the suit claims, she forfeited both her and Barack’s American citizenship.

Unfortunately, just 10 days before the election, a court of appeals judge threw out Berg’s lawsuit challenging the veracity of Obama’s U.S. citizenship status on technical grounds. Judge R. Barclay Surrick, a Jimmy Carter-appointed judge, amazingly (and with a tinge of irony), stated his opinion in part:

In a 34-page memorandum that accompanied the court order, the Hon. R. Barclay Surrick concludes that ordinary citizens can’t sue to ensure that a presidential candidate actually meets the constitutional requirements of the office.

Surrick defers to Congress, saying that the legislature could determine “that citizens, voters, or party members should police the Constitution’s eligibility requirements for the Presidency,” but that it would take new laws to grant individual citizens that ability.
“Until that time,” Surrick says, “voters do not have standing to bring the sort of challenge that Plaintiff attempts to bring.”

Judge Surrick, quoting from Hollander, concludes, “The alleged harm to voters stemming from a presidential candidate’s failure to satisfy the eligibility requirements of the Natural Born Citizen Clause is not concrete or particularized enough to constitute an injury.”
Surrick also quotes Lujan v. Defenders of Wildlife, which stated, in part, “The Supreme Court has consistently held that a plaintiff raising only a generally available grievance about government – claiming only harm to his and every citizen’s interest in proper application of the Constitution and laws, and seeking relief that no more directly and tangibly benefits him than it does the public at large – does not state an Article III case or controversy.”

Constitutionally speaking, Judge Surrick’s reasoning is completely illogical and a total dereliction of his duty as a judge to substantively address this most vital constitutional controversy. Instead, in a gutless manner, Surrick dismissed Berg’s complaint 10 days before the elections on a technicality of standing, which to any rational person begs the question: If Philip J. Berg as an American citizen, a respected Democratic operative and former attorney general of Pennsylvania doesn’t have the “standing” to bring this type of lawsuit against Obama, then who in America does have standing? The good judge in all 34 pages of legal mumbo jumbo didn’t bother to answer this pivotal question.

That Berg’s complaint is not “concrete or particularized enough to constitute an injury” is an amazing admission by any person that went to law school and even more so given the fact that Surrick is a respected appellate judge!

I am somewhat hopeful that Berg will successfully appeal Surrick’s outrageous decision to 3rd Circuit Court of Appeals and then to the United States Supreme Court if necessary, even if technically he doesn’t have standing to hold Obama accountable to the Constitution. Why? Because this is America, and out of 300 million people, someone should give a damn enough about this republic to make sure the person who holds the highest elected office in the land holds it legitimately based on the black letter text of Article II, Section 1 of the U.S. Constitution.

Unless and until Obama’s citizenship question is definitively put to rest, then the proverbial sword of Damocles will continue to dangle precariously over his head and America will face 50 lawsuits from all 50 states demanding that President Barack Obama prove that he is an authentic American citizen according to the U.S. Constitution.

ANOTHER POSTING TODAY

Frank R Molver (10 Nov 2008)
Supreme court ruling soon on Obama’s eligibility for presidency


http://theneinblog.blogspot.com/2008/11/supreme-court-to-determine-legality-of.html

09 NOVEMBER 2008: Supreme Court Of The United States (SCOTUS) Justice David Souter has agreed that a review of the federal lawsuit filed by attorney Phil Berg against Barack Hussein Obama II, et al., which was subsequently dismissed for lack of standing is warranted. SCOTUS Docket No. 08-570 contains the details.


A review of that docket and the Rule 10 of the Supreme Court makes abundantly clear that Justice Souter’s granting of a review on the Writ of Certiorari is not a right entitled to citizen Phil Berg, but rather is a matter of judcial discretion based upon a compelling reasons. That compelling reason is the Constitutional requirement that “No person except a natural born citizen … shall be eligible to the office of President…”


What this means is that on or before 1 DECEMBER 2008 Barack Hussein Obama II must respond to the writ of certiorari, and since the Berg v Obama case hinged primarily on the question of Obama’s place of birth, it is almost inconceivable that Barack Obama will thumb his nose at the Justices of the Supreme Court and he is absolutely compelled to provide a vault copy his original birth certificate.


Another very salient fact to consider at this time is that, despite all of the pronouncements of the print and broadcast media, Barack Obama is not yet the President-elect of the United States. Barack Obama can only become the President-elect after the Electoral College convenes on 15 DECEMBER 2008 in their respective state capitals around the nation and casts their votes to elect the President and the Vice President. As you can see this election day occurs two weeks after the required response to the Supreme Court granted Writ of Certiorari.


The bottom line is this: the presidential election of 2008 remains an ongoing process, the outcome of which remains undetermined, and all talk about a potential Constitutional crisis in the United States are at least 36 days premature.

15 comments:

ArmyMan said…
Ok, now let me see if my line of thinking is correct. If Obama does not provide proof, he is in contempt of court? If he does provide proof and he is NOT a natural born citizen, who becomes President? McCain/Palin? Biden? Are there any charges that can be placed on Obama for violating the law or is it because he is only the President-Elect and not the President?

And my last pondering question is if in the wildest, far fetched possibility Obama is not lying (I know, hard to beleive) BUT if he is a natural citizen, is there enough electoral college votes to still keep him out of office or is that process on the 15th just a mute point?

I know, lots of questions but I am still researching these questions and not having much luck.

Anonymous said…
Harvard Ph.d. comments on Obama Birth Certificate issue

OBAMA MUST STAND UP NOW OR STEP DOWN

By Dr. Edwin Vieira, Jr., Ph.D., J.D.
October 29, 2008

NewsWithViews.com

America is facing potentially the gravest constitutional crisis in her history. Barack Obama must either stand up in a public forum and prove, with conclusive documentary evidence, that he is “a natural born Citizen” of the United States who has not renounced his American citizenship—or he must step down as the Democratic Party’s candidate for President of the United States—preferably before the election is held, and in any event before the Electoral College meets.

To see full article see: http://www.ronpaulwarroom.com/?p=16283

Edwin Vieira, Jr., holds four degrees from Harvard: A.B. (Harvard College), A.M. and Ph.D. (Harvard Graduate School of Arts and Sciences), and J.D. (Harvard Law School).
For more than thirty years he has practiced law, with emphasis on constitutional issues. In the Supreme Court of the United States he successfully argued

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Plaintiffs In This Suit Against Obama Include A Former Presidential Candidate, A Pastor, And The Chairman Of One Of The Third Parties

Obama Birth Certificate Update
Posted on November 7, 2008
I’ve been told that another challenge to Barack Obama’s eligibility to be president was either filed yesterday or will be filed today. While I cannot get into any details, the plaintiffs in this suit include a former presidential candidate, a pastor, and the chairman of one of the third parties.
The suit will focus on the constitutional requirement that a presidential candidate must be a natural born citizen, and that Obama fails to qualify since the evidence indicates he was born in Kenya, not Hawaii as he has claimed.
http://thevalleytruth.wordpress.com/2008/11/07/obama-birth-certificate-update/

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PA State Rep Authoring Legislation on Candidate Eligibility Based on Obama Citizenship Questions

This morning, Jeff reports via PolitickerPA.com that Pennsylvania State Representative Daryl Metcalfe (R-Butler County) is authoring a bill regarding Presidential eligibility:
http://www.therightsideoflife.com/?p=340

SeanOsborne said…
I definitely need to expound for everyone on the very profound implications of what I have written in this NEIN Blog entry.

First, look at and read carefully the words seen in the image. What is stated there is the function of the federal judiciary, particularly and pentultimately, the U.S. Supreme Court. There is no higher leagal authority in the U.S. Government.

Obama [or his lawyer(s)] MUST respond no later than 1 DEC to the SCOTUS-granted Writ of Certiorari.

VERY, VERY FEW writs of this type are ever granted by SCOTUS.

This writ was granted due to some very compelling reasons – the number one reason hinges on whether Obama is Constitutionally elibible to hold the office of POTUS.

Obama MUST respond NLT 01DEC08.

Obaama has two options in his response.

1. Tell the SCOTUS to take a flying leap by repeating his non-response to the federal court in PA or by asking for dismissal.

This is NOT a viable option for Obama to take. Remember your elementary, high school and college-level “Government 101” class education on the three co-equal branches of our government. Would Obama dare to tick-off deluxe the currently Conservative majority in the SCOTUS? He might, but, again, that course of action is highly inadvisable. I can conceive that should Obama flip the court the bird that the SCOTUS would then hold Obama in contempt and subpoena his vault birth certificate from the State of Hawai’i. Then the fight would really be on.

2. Comply and provide exactly what is requested of him in the Writ.

Obama is between a rock and a hard place IF there is no legal proof that he was born in Hawai’i. Evidence and legal proceedings to date strongly indicate that this is the fact of the matter.

Barack Obama IS NOT the President-elect. NOT YET. Obama does not become President-elect until the Electoral College electors cast their ballots on 15DEC08.

Which occurs first – Supreme Court proceedings, of the Electoal College voting?

The Electoral College electors in the various states do not have to vote for Obama. They can cast their votes for whomever they choose for both President and Vice President.

As I sstated the 2008 election process is not over- it is still very much an active process – with key Constitutional issues before the Supreme Court of the land.

So why is NO ONE in the MSM talking about this???

SeanOsborne said…
One final point on the granting of the Writ of Certiorari:

This issue is no longer a Berg vs. Obama legal issue. On the contrary, it is now and for all intents and purposes a SUPREME COURT OF THE UNITED STATES versus Barack Obama legal issue.

SeanOsborne said…
riverChief,

You’re exactly correct.

How can these briefings be ongoing when Obama is not yet officially the President-elect?

More to the point – since we can logically assume that the briefings being given to Obama are at least at the level of Top Secret – Special Compartmented Intelligence (TS-SCI), the Special Background Investigation REQUIRED PRIOR TO the granting of the appropriate need-to-know clearance level to Obama was conducted by whom? The FBI? The Defense Security Service (DSS)?

Obama’s historical racord of abundant, long-term associations with radicals, communists and other assorted anti-American personages should have disqualified him, virtually automatically, from gaining any level security clearance.

SeanOsborne said…
ArmyMan said…
…if the government is already giving Obama the grand tour of the facilities and security briefings, then our government again has already screwed up?

Yes, the government is in the process screwing up big-time.

Barack Obama is not the president-elect.

No one is the president-elect at this time.

And depending on the final outcome of Supreme Court docket 08-570 Barack Obama might never become the “president-elect” irregardless of what occured in the national vote on 4 NOV.

This is completely uncharted territory. What will happen if Obama is declared ineligible for the office? I don’t know.

However, I do know there’s a couple of weeks between 1 DEC when the response is due and 15 December when the EC votes for all kinds of unprededented things to happen, or conversely, not to happen.

Written by twelvebooks

November 11, 2008 at 3:10 am