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(Nov 18, 2008) Where’s the birth certificate Mr. Obama?

between the lines Joseph Farah

Where’s the birth certificate?

Posted: November 17, 2008
1:00 am Eastern

© 2008 

Incredibly, we are just nine weeks away from inaugurating the next president of the United States and millions of Americans still have citizenship eligibility questions that have never been addressed by Barack Obama and his entourage.

All that Barack Obama would have to do to put this issue to rest is to release his complete birth certificate, revealing where he was born and who were his parents.

It seems a simple thing.

Personally, I doubt the Democratic Party would be so stupid as to run an ineligible candidate for president of the United States. I doubt Hillary Clinton would have accepted defeat at the hands of a candidate ineligible for the job.

So it would seem Obama is simply thumbing his nose at the Constitution and the concerns of millions of American people. After all, he has made it clear the Constitution doesn’t mean what it says anyway. It’s all a matter of opinion.

Maybe his intransigence on this seemingly ridiculous matter is just his way of showing he will, as president, consider himself above the Constitution. I don’t know any other way to interpret his behavior, do you?

Until last week, no one in the Obama camp would even comment on the controversy surrounding his complete birth certificate, which has never been released publicly. That changed after much hounding by WND staffers who managed to get one official Obama representative to proclaim – anonymously, I might add – that seven lawsuits filed by citizens trying to secure the birth certificate are “pure garbage.”

Obama’s record of non-cooperation and secrecy has now resulted in conspiracy theories that will plague him throughout his administration if he doesn’t address them now with utter transparence. Do I expect him to do so? No, I don’t.

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He not only thinks those lawsuits are “garbage,” evidently that’s also what he thinks of the people who truly believe the Constitution means what it says and those who believe there ought to be some controlling legal authority determining Obama’s eligibility for the highest office in the land before he is sworn in Jan. 20.

Count me among those who really want to see that birth certificate now.

Imagine the level of secrecy we can expect from an Obama administration that guards his birth certificate with such tenacity.

I’m calling on Barack Obama today to release the entire birth certificate. And just so there is no mistake about what I am calling for, I want the part of the birth certificate that shows which hospital he was born in and who his parents were. That is the only way to establish if he is truly a natural-born citizen. Further, I am asking as a journalist and pundit that if there is any government agency or government official anywhere on the planet who has inspected the birth certificate and can provide those details to the American people, the time to do so is now.

I’m also calling on all my colleagues, from coast to coast and around the world, not to let this matter drop. Apparently it is a point of real sensitivity with Obama people. Good. Let’s rub it in. Let’s demand he produce the birth certificate at every turn – at every press conference, at every appearance, on every talk show.

Could anything be more important than enforcing the requirements of our Constitution?

This is hardly a laughing matter. The longer this soap opera drags on, the more suspicions it will raise – the less credibility our electoral system will have, the more many people will believe the whole political system is rigged.

Whom does that benefit?

I honestly can’t imagine.

What possible motivation could Obama have for not producing this simple, innocuous document that every citizen must produce to get a passport, driver’s license or Social Security card?

Are you curious?

So am I.

Where’s the birth certificate, Sen. Obama?

I agree with Joseph statements

Written by twelvebooks

November 18, 2008 at 8:32 pm

(Nov 18, 2008)Dec. 20–Battle of Gog and Magog–WWIII–Sudden Destruction and the Rapture???”

Ron Reese (17 Nov 2008)
Dec. 20–Battle of Gog and Magog–WWIII–Sudden Destruction and the Rapture???

Hi Doves,
Now that Nov. 15, 2008, has passed, it is time to take a serious look at Dec. 20, 2008, as the possible time of the Rapture/Sudden Destruction.  Let us not forget Psalms 108.  Let’s not look ahead to 2009 just yet.  I will be posting soon on why I believe the Rapture and Sudden Destruction are going to happen on the SAME DAY.  So for now, this post will concentrate on the possible DAY of the year when The Battle of Gog and Magog–WWIII takes place.
If it is on Dec. 20, 2008, this would certainly qualify as the worldwide and nationwide crisis that so many seem to be seeing BEFORE the Bush administration ends and the Obama administration begins, that could extend the Presidency of Bush indefinitely.  Which again would, if WWIII happens this Dec., make us wonder if Obama will rule the world as President of the U.S., or President of the World, or both?  Most of you reading this post, know that I am totally convinced that Obama is the Antichrist and the Final 7 Years began on Oct. 29, 2008, with Obama confirming the covenant of Dan. 9:27 on that day, which was EXACTLY 2520 days from Feast of Atonement, Sept. 23, 2015.  Obama promised on Oct. 29, 2008, to not only change the U.S., but to also CHANGE THE WORLD!!!
Sept. 23, 2015, is the beginning of a Sabbatical cycle and a Jubilee cycle (according to J.R. Church and Bonnie Gaunt, both of whose research is tops in prophetic circles).  7 X 7 Jewish years from Dec. 6, 1967, brings us right to the EXACT same day, Sept. 23, 2015.  Then there are the eclipses also pointing us to that SAME DAY.  It SHOULD be next to impossible for anyone reading this to deny that the 70th week of Daniel started 2520 days, or 7 Jewish years, before the date of Sept. 23, 2015, Feast of Atonement ( the Feast Day that most Bible scholars have always pointed towards as the Feast Day for the literal 2nd Coming of Christ).  On the VERY DAY that he was supposed to, Oct. 29, 2008, Obama fulfilled Dan. 9:27, giving us the EXACT date of the beginning of the 70th Week of Daniel, and the indentity of the Antichrist.
Why Dec. 20 for the possible date of the Rapture and Sudden Destruction of Ezekiel 38 and 39–WWIII?  Grant Jeffrey is one the most respected prophetic scholars, speaker, and author of many well-researched prophecy books.  One of his most popular books was published in 1988, entitled, “Armageddon:  Appointment with Destiny”.  He has been teaching for years that we can know THE DAY of the year of the Battle of Gog and Magog (World War III).  He bases this teaching on Haggai, Chapter 2, which seems to be the same battle as the Battle of Gog and Magog in Ezekiel 38 and 39.  He does not tell us we can know the year, only the DAY of the year.
When the Lord mentions the SAME DAY not once, not twice, but  THREE TIMES in one chapter, it is highly probable that it is an extremely significant day.  In Haggai, Chapter 2, in verse 10, in verse 18, and in verse 20, he gives us the very SAME DAY.  Again, not the year, but the DAY of the year.  THE DAY of the year mentioned 3 TIMES in Haggai, Chapter 2, is the 24th day of Chisleu, which is on the eve of Hanukkah, which this year is Dec. 20, 2008.
I am now quoting from Grant Jeffrey’s book, “Armageddon:  Appointment with Destiny”, Chapter 7, the final 3 paragraphs in this chapter of this excellent book:
“Although Scripture does not indicate the exact year in which this invasion and defeat will occur, the prophet Haggai reveals that on the TWENTY-FOURTH DAY OF THE NINTH MONTH of the Jewish calendar (Chisleu), the day before Hanukkah, God will deliver Israel as He did twice before on this anniversary: (1) the defeat of the Syrian army and recapture of the Temple in 165 B.C. and (2) the capture of Jerusalem from the Turks in A.D. 1917.
The prophet Haggai declares:  “The Word of the Lord came unto Haggai in THE FOUR AND TWENTIETH DAY OF THE MONTH (CHISLEU), saying, Speak to Zerubbabell, governor of Judah, saying, I will shake the heavens and the earth; and the strength of the kingdoms of the heathen; and I will overthrow the chariots, and those that ride in them; and the horses and their riders shall come down, every one by the sword of his brother” (Haggai 2: 20-22)”
“This description and exact language is uncannily like that of Ezekiel 38 and 39, which describe Russia’s defeat.  The interesting point is that it names THE EXACT DAY of the year on which this will occur.  Since so many other prophecies have been so precisely fulfilled to the day, there is a strong likelihood that this event will also occur on its appointed day.  “Behold, it is come, and it is done, saith the Lord God; this is THE DAY whereof I have spoken” (Exekiel 39:8).  God’s appointment with Russia is set; it will be kept.”
Lest some of you be misunderstand because of the title of the book, Grant Jeffrey is not talking about the Battle of Armaggedon and the Battle of Gog and Magog being the same battle, as a few teach.  The next obvious question is, “Is 2008 the year of this Battle of Gog and Magog???”  It is my contention from my study of Scripture that this Battle of Gog and Magog–WWIII–Sudden Destruction is the likely time of the Rapture.  Is the Rapture/Sudden Destruction going to still happen in 2008???  The most likely date that we have left in 2008 is THE DAY of the year that is mentioned THREE TIMES in Haggai, Chapter 2, which is the day before Hanukkah.  This year that day is Dec. 20, 2008.  I do not know if this is the year for this battle to take place.  But if it is, BE READY FOR DEC. 20, 2008, THE POSSIBLE DATE FOR THE FULFILLMENT OF EZEKIEL 38 AND 39, THE BATTLE OF GOG AND MAGOG–WWIII–SUDDEN DESTRUCTION AND THE RAPTURE!!!
Ron Reese

Written by twelvebooks

November 18, 2008 at 7:44 pm

(Nov 18 , 2008) Obama as the antichrist anotherconfirmation.

For those of you who have never heard of lord matreiya is the New Age Movement christ.  Benjamin Creme one of its leader has been selling him to the world for some time.  This movement has its roots on Theosophists madame Blavasky’s secret doctrine.  Hitler and all his Nazy movement were heavy into these things.  See the book Peace Prosperity and the Coming Holocaust . (The New Age Movement in Prophecy) page 135 in particular, by Mr. Dave Hunt

Kelly Herman (18 Nov 2008)
Ron Reese/Donna Danna You are both right!

Ron and Donna,

I just want to let you both know that there are several other people you may not know about that have been given confirmation as to what Ron has been shown and Donna what you already know and have been shown.

When you received your confirmation about Obama being the A/C a friend of mine called that same day and said what she was shown, when I told her to hold on let me read you a posting from Ron Reese on five doves, we were both hit by what I would call a Holy Spirit bolt of lightning by the time we got done!

Donna you are also right about M*treiya! The two of you do not have the missing piece that was given to me on Friday. I had to wait on The Lord before he would let me post this.

**Actually Ron when you felt you were the only one shown about Obama and his role, you were not the only one, you just had not had a chance to hear from the rest of us 🙂 The Lord does not use anyone singularly!

Ron and Donna, You are both right! Here is the missing piece—Several other doves have also sensed and know about M*treiya.

I have studied the demonic world now for 4 years, The Lord gave me a mandate “KNOW THE ENEMY”and a hedge of protection that He has had to use more times than I can count.

M*treiya is a demonic entity and most powerful and ancient. He gets his power from “the dragon”(sat*n)
I know this because The Lord showed me on numerous occaisions that he cannot appear solid for more than 19+ minutes at a time. I believe share international has a link on his times.
This means his power is limited. For him to be the A/C —hold on Ron, I will get to your puzzle piece-again, for him, M*treiya to be the A/C –“he must use a three dimensional host” , a human being, but not just any human, one who has the proper bloodline. He will then use his host(Obama), but The Lord God will “lock” him into this three dimensional realm. He will lose the power to go back and forth dimensionally into the unseen realms.
This is where Obama comes in—He must be thrust on to the world scene for this to take place!  Obama will not stay President of the United States—he can’t! He is prepped for a role that will come together and fully manifest when M*treitya needs a three dimensional host. The Lord God Almighty is holding this back for now…but not for long!

The trace of this bloodline runs through Kenya and also covers Muhammed and…King David! He will be all things to all people, but he must be THRUST onto the world scene!

That is all I know right now.

Looking up and loving the learning process! Kelly Herman in Dall

Written by twelvebooks

November 18, 2008 at 7:40 pm

(NOV 18, 2008) Battle Hymn

Dear readers the following is a beautiful rendition of the Battle Hymn.  America is in trouble and regardless of political following we need to pull together to survive the onslought of evil that I see directed to our country in the future.

Mark Copfer (18 Nov 2008)
Battle Hymn

This was sent to me from a childhood friend from the old neighborhood….

Good morning everyone,

Please take a moment to watch this video. It was done by some elementary and high school students. It is about patriotism still in our schools. It will send chills down your spine. I watched it once then I watched it again, the second time I really listened to the words. It was awesome. It is only about 2 minutes long.

Have a blessed day

Written by twelvebooks

November 18, 2008 at 5:25 pm