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(October 27, 2009) Kevin Heckle’s article on 2nd Thessalonians 2 is the most logical interpretation.


(October 27, 2009) Kevin Heckle’s article on 2nd Thessalonians 2 is the most logical interpretation.

The Great Apostasy

1 Now, brethren, concerning the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and our gathering together to Him, we ask you, 2 not to be soon shaken in mind or troubled, either by spirit or by word or by letter, as if from us, as though the day of Christ[a] had come. 3 Let no one deceive you by any means; for that Day will not come unless the falling away comes first, and the man of sin[b] is revealed, the son of perdition, 4 who opposes and exalts himself above all that is called God or that is worshiped, so that he sits as God[c] in the temple of God, showing himself that he is God.

Let us recap what we have learned in this last year.  Mr Obama the elected president of the USA is the lawless one as proven well beyond anybodies mind by the five doves, J.R. Church, Van Impe and many other Christians dedicated to the study of the Word.

That there was an Apostasy in the most Christian nation in the World is more than evident, when the majority of the Nation disregarded what was proof at the time that Obama was lying when he professed to be a Christian, with his stand on partial birth abortion, and many other signs that indicated to any Bible good Christian the true identity of this man.  If good believers voted for him they were deceived badly by the enemy of Christ, Satan.  In a moral Nation Obama could not have been elected.

Here is the article and the link.

http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/oct2009/kevinh1027-2.htm

Kevin Heckle (27 Oct 2009)
Rapture Timing: M. Agee, Elaine B., J. Blackmon, Bruce Warner and Doves: II Thessalonians 2


Rapture Timing: M. Agee, Elaine B., J. Blackmon, Bruce Warner and Doves: II Thessalonians 2

I have carefully read each of your posts regarding this passage of Scripture in II Thessalonians 2:3 and the interpretation of apostasia (Strong’s G646) which interpreted in the KJV as ‘falling away’.  The Holy Spirit specifically inspired this single word apostasia (not a variation) to describe the event which would precede the COMFORT that the ‘day of Christ’ would bring the brethren.  Paul asks (‘we beseech you brethren’) the Church (at Thessalonica) to not be ‘soon shaken in mind’ or ‘troubled’ for the ‘day of Christ’ would come.  The prerequisite to the COMFORT would be the apostasia and the revealing of the ‘man of sin’.  The controversy seems to be around the interpretation of apostasia which only occurs TWO times in the Bible. I’m not talking about a variation or root word, but that specific word apostasia (G646).  It is not a flawed interpretation in the KJV as the ‘falling away’ correctly describes apostasia as a defection downwards from the highest truth which is the Gospel. Elaine B. accurately identified Acts 21:21 as the only other time in the Bible that apostasia is used.  However, it is describing a defection from the Law of Moses, which is the same intention of apostasia in II Thessalonians 2:3 describing a defection from the Gospel.  The implication of the apostasia here, is the defection from the Gospel that allows the ‘man of sin’ to come to power.

If apostasia in II Thessalonians 2 were intended to indicate rapture, why would Paul include the second sign (revealing the antichrist) to the church as it would, as a result of the first sign (rapture), not be here to see the second sign?  In conjecture, why would the first sign (rapture) indicate itself?  It’s like saying, ‘Be not troubled, the first sign of the rapture will be the rapture and the second sign will be the revealing of the antichrist, which you won’t be here to see because you’ll be raptured’.  Do you see how nonsensical that is?

The one New Testament story that most accurately describes a rapture of sorts is in Acts 8:39 where Philip baptizes the Eunuch and is then ‘caught away’ by the Spirit of the Lord as they come out of the water. He disappeared before the Eunuch’s eyes.  The word for rapture here is harpazo (G726) which is a more accurate description AND is the exact word used in 1st Thessalonians 4:17 ‘caught up’ together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord. Philip was found later in Azotus (G108), which means ‘stronghold’.  When the Lord raptures us away, we will forever be found in His ‘stronghold’.

The Book of Revelation is a letter from Jesus and John to the churches (see chapter 1).  There are many prophecies to the church concerning the identification of the AC, but one in particular is written to instruct ‘he who hath understanding’ found in Revelation 13:18.  Jesus and John give the Church the framework with which to identify the antichrist, ‘count the number of the beast’.  The book of Revelation is a letter to you and me, Christians.  Those who have understanding are being told by Jesus and John to count the number of the beast.   Why would Jesus and John instruct the church in the identification of the antichrist if the church will be absent (raptured) from the earth at his revealing?  Doesn’t the number, including the fulfillment of other prophecies, reveal the AC?  Wouldn’t that revealing be the final signal to get ourselves right as well as warn the lost before the Day of the Lord?

The Pharisees and scribes knew Scripture forwards and backwards, yet couldn’t identify Jesus as the Messiah.  They refused to believe it as He didn’t meet their preconceived notion of the Christ.  Here we are confronted with mounds of Scriptural evidence identifying the AC; yet want something more to prove it.  I too wish to focus on Jesus, following His instructions rightly discerning the signs of the times and heeding His warnings of the Book of Revelation.

I’m curious about your response.  Please post your feedback.

Kindest Regards,

Kevin Heckle

Nando

https://twelvebooks.wordpress.com

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October 27, 2009 at 11:13 pm

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  1. Wondering if you have had occasion to read a new article on Google with the title of “Pre-Trib Expert John Walvoord Melts Ice.” It discusses the claim that “apostasia” is the rapture. Very informative! Max

    Max

    December 30, 2009 at 4:40 am


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