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Robert Rose (27 Sep 2010) “Peace Talks Hi-Jacked?”

The news on the article below is very disturbing for Israel.

The leaders of Israel must fell that every time that they enter into negotiations with the Palestinians a double cross is for sure to follow.

That Fatah and Hamas and Syria are holding secret talks behind the backs of the peace parties is a killer for the process of securing a lasting peace.

It would be naive or malicious to think that Israel will let any party to this negotiations railroad them into a position of weakness or vulnerability in the security negotiations.

For the rest of the parties involved it is not a matter of live and death because Israel is not the evil they tend to pin them with, but the Palestinians have evil in their hearts concerning Israel.

I can not see how anything in this process of negotiations could be of any benefit to the Israelis.

May our Lord protect His people in a forceful and conclusive way in the coming conflict with their enemies.

Nando

http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/sep2010/robertr927-2.htm

Robert Rose (27 Sep 2010)
Peace Talks Hi-Jacked?


Here’s the site:

http://www.debka.com/article/9044/

Direct Israel-Palestinian talks break down after Abbas secretly engages Hamas

Palestinian leader flew out of New York Saturday night, Sept. 25 standing by his ultimatum that for Jerusalem to announce continuation of the temporary freeze on building in West Bank settlements after it expires Sunday night – or else no more direct talks.

US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton abandoned her efforts to achieve a compromise Saturday after learning that Abbas had hardened his line and opted for secret diplomacy with Hamas terrorist planners in Damascus. Israeli Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu refrained from stating his intentions regarding West Bank construction. He stated from the outset of the US peace initiative that Palestinian pre-conditions for direct talks were unacceptable. The Americans backed off pressure to change his mind after discovering Abbas’ double game.
On Saturday, debkafile reported:

Deep in the gloom behind frantic US efforts to rescue the Israeli-Palestinian peace talks from collapsing when Israel’s 10-month construction freeze runs out Sunday, Sept. 26, debkafile’s counter-terror sources report a new stumbling block has appeared on the diplomatic track.

In New York, US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton pressed Abbas Friday, Sept. 24, not to walk out of the talks with Israel after only two sessions. Israel’s Defense Minister Ehud Barak, who delayed his return home, and negotiator Yitzhak Molcho met with US and Palestinian officials to join the effort. They all appeared to be struggling for a compromise on the settlement construction issue that would keep Abbas talking, without compromising the government’s position at home.

In fact, they found themselves grappling with a new impediment: This week, Abbas sent a high-ranking delegation of his own Fatah party to Damascus for secret talks with top Hamas leaders, thereby swinging the critical focus of the Israel-Palestinian peace talks to a new internal Palestinian track led by the radical Hamas and Syria, the foremost opponents of the US-sponsored peace talks with Israel. Abbas was apparently supported in this shift by Egypt.
The Fatah delegation consisted of Azzam al Ahmad, Gen. Nasser Yusuf and Sahar Basiso, head of Fatah General Intelligence, sat down with Hamas’ leader Khaled Meshaal, head of its politburo Mussa Abu Marzouk and Izzat Rishak, intelligence chief.
The delegation’s composition was an added complication and hindrance to diplomatic progress.

Rishak personally orchestrated the first attacks on the West Bank on Aug. 30 and Sept. 1, in which four Israelis were murdered and two injured. debkafile’s counter-terror sources report that these were the opening shots of a major Hamas terror campaign, designed to peak with the most devastating terrorist strike yet, which Rishak is in charge of planning. He is using the same perpetrators. ¬†They are still at large because Hamas imported unknown terrorist talent from Syria whose faces are unknown to the Shin Bet. However, a furious hunt is on to catch them in time.

Israeli defense sources reacted angrily to the news of the Fatah-Hamas get-together. While slapping down an ultimatum for partnering Israel in peace talks, Mahmoud Abbas, they said, was furtively engaged in give-and-take in the Syrian capital with Hamas terrorists who he knows to be the warpath.
Clinton’s diplomatic skills have suddenly been doubly taxed: She must contrive an acceptable formula for the settlement construction imbroglio and so keep the direct Palestinian-Israeli talks running, while at the same time squashing the new Palestinian-Hamas-Syrian track surreptitiously initiated by Mahmoud Abbas. A possible alternative might be one which the Obama administration has begun exploring of late, according to debkafile’s Washington sources, and that is to cut Syrian and Hamas negotiators into the direct Israel-Palestinian track.

This means that the direct Israel-Palestinian direct talks, which Barack Obama called the crux of his Middle East policy during his speech to the UN last Thursday, have been virtually hijacked. Washington is struggling to maintain a grip on a process which Abbas has handed over to Damascus and Hamas.
Hillary Clinton when she meets Syrian Foreign Minister Walid Mouallem Monday, Sept. 27, is likely to test the possibility of an agreement on this issue.
Hence, in New York, Assistant US Secretary of State for Near Eastern Affairs Jeff Feltman told reporters that his government would like to see Israel and Syria settle their differences as part of a comprehensive peace, which “has to include a Syria-Israel track.”

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September 27, 2010 at 7:01 pm

Robert Rose (27 Sep 2010) “Israel orders MASSIVE AMOUNTS OF FUEL… READYING FOR WAR”

This news is very important due to the shelf live of the jet fuel.

Israel would not spend this money which would become useless in a short period of time if they were not sure of their 100% need of it in this time frame. Thank you for the post Robert Rose

Nando

http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/sep2010/robertr927-1.htm

Robert Rose (27 Sep 2010)
Israel orders MASSIVE AMOUNTS OF FUEL… READYING FOR WAR


Found this on a website:

Three weeks ago the US Defence Security Cooperation Agency (DSCA) published a notice, as it is legally required to do, announcing that Israel has ordered massive quantities of various fuels suitable for military use, and in the case of the order for JP-8 jet fuel, suitable only for military use.

The massive order is valued at some $2 billion and, as well as the 284 million gallons (1.075 billion litres) of JP-8 jet fuel, the order also includes 60 million gallons (227 million litres) of unleaded gasoline and 100 million gallons (378 million litres) of diesel fuel.

Conclusion: They are preparing for something.

You don’t buy 2 billion $ worth of gas for nothing.

The shelf life of JP-8 is about 6-8 months…

So war it is within that timeframe.

That’s quite a bit of fuel for a military the size of Israel.

Source:

http://lataan.blogspot.com/2010/08/israel-orders-massive-military-fuel.html

Written by twelvebooks

September 27, 2010 at 4:23 pm

Sept 25,2010 To F.M. Riley concerning two very important things in your article.

To F.M. Riley concerning two very important things in your article.

You started your backward count of 2550 days staring on Sept 30, 2017. In your calculations you used 360 days in a year that Jesus is supposed to turn back the days of the year. This part I believe is correct, but the September 30 2017 date you got from a projection of years based on 365+ years. If the end of the apocalypse is in Yom Kippur the beginning must be in Yom Kippur of 2010 minus your added 30 days.

The same argument used above can be used with the dates of the solar and lunar eclipses found by Mark Biltz. He looked on a calendar that uses the 365 days+ to compute the corresponding Jewish date with the eclipses, so if God changed the yearly time prior to those dates, they would be a different date in the past.

http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/sep2010/fmriley924.htm

http://world.std.com/~reinhold/jewishholidays.txt

5777
Mon.  3 October 2016  	Rosh HaShanah*
Wed. 12 October 2016  	Yom Kippur*
Mon. 17 October 2016  	Sukkot*
Mon. 24 October 2016  	Shemini Atzeret*
Tue. 25 October 2016  	Simhat Torah*
Sun. 25 December 2016  	Chanukah
Sat. 11 February 2017  	Tu Bishvat
Sun. 12 March 2017  	Purim
Tue. 11 April 2017  	Pesach*
Sun. 23 April 2017  	Yom HaSho'ah
Mon.  1 May 2017  	Yom HaAtzma'ut
Sun. 14 May 2017  	Lag B'Omer
Wed. 31 May 2017  	Shavuot*
Tue.  1 August 2017  	Tisha B'Av

5778
Thu. 21 September 2017  	Rosh HaShanah*
Sat. 30 September 2017  	Yom Kippur*
Thu.  5 October 2017  	Sukkot*
Thu. 12 October 2017  	Shemini Atzeret*
Fri. 13 October 2017  	Simhat Torah*
Wed. 13 December 2017  	Chanukah

I may be wrong in all this thinking but it is not logical what we are doing.
Doves and readers we need more thoughts on this matter.
Nando

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September 27, 2010 at 3:02 am