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This was posted by Ron Reese in fivedoves and sent to me by e-mail.


Having recently posted a High Rapture Alert for the days of Oct. 19–27th, I have been reluctant to post another High Rapture Alert so soon following that.  However, there is so much potential for the next 10 days, Oct. 5–14th, to be the time of the Sudden Destruction, and, therefore the Rapture, that I really have no choice.  So much has been written during the past few weeks, and especially the past few days, on, that I am not going into all of the details.  I encourage all of you on my mailing list who do not read Five Doves, to read today’s postings, almost all of which revolve around all that is pointing to the next ten days.  It is truly amazing the potential of what MAY be about to happen.  At least read these two links below posted today, Nov. 5th, to get some idea of why so many watchers are extremely excited about the potential for the next ten days.

I MAY have found the Biblical connection to the next ten days, also, which nobody else has posted on.  I recently received a letter from fellow Biblical watchman, Jim Harman, whom I have known for many years, and who I shared a display table in the 1990’s with, at the International Bible Prophecy Conference, sponsored by God’s News Behind the News.  Jim has authored several excellent books on Bible Prophecy, which can be found on his website, listed below.
The bottom line of this recent POSSIBLE discovery is that we could have the wrong date for the 17th of Chesvan, the day that the Great Flood came, in Noah’s time, and probably the day that Noah entered the Ark, typifying the Rapture.  Our calendar put the 17th day of the 2nd month at Oct. 25–27th, when instead it could POSSIBLY be Nov. 8th, give or take a day or two.  I believe that the Lord has shown me that Noah is one of the keys to the timing of the Rapture/Sudden Destruction.
This makes this letter below so exciting, because so much else seems to be also pointing to this same time frame.  Please read Jim’s email to me below:


I was disappointed that we are still here and I got out an old copy of The Blessed Hope that I did back in 1991.  The following is a quote from page 60:
“The date of November 13, 1992 could be the correct date for the Rapture – provided 1992 is the correct year and provided the Jewish months are the correct means of counting time.
Another possibility was brought out in a book called: THE LONG DAY OF JOSHUA.  The authors contend that the correct way to reckon time is from the fall equinox of each year.  They state this would have been on September 21 at the time of Noah which would mean the flood came 47 days (30+17) later on November 7.  If this is the correct methodology to use, what would be the 17th day of the second month in 1992?
The fall equinox falls on September 22, in 1992.  Moving forward 47 days from this point gives us November 8, as the 17th day of the second month.  If time should be counted from the fall equinox, then the Rapture could occur on November 8, 1992″
I asked Cindy to help me find the book: The Long Day of Joshua, but she reminded me that one of the members of our ministy loaned us their copy of the book so we don’t have the book to look it up again.  This year the fall equinox also fell on September 22, so November 8th, 2010, could be the time.
Thanks for all your recent e-mails. I am hoping it could still take place this fall.
God bless,
Jim Harman
For those of you who did not read the two posts that are linked above, it is imperative that you do so.  There is so very much potential for the next ten days to be the time of the Sudden Destruction/Rapture, that it cannot be emphasized enough.  The two main pointers are Obama, the Antichrist, fleeing the country with 3000 people, and the Web bot projections.  There are many other signs that you can read about on the Five Doves website, but I am only concentrating on these two.
Before I discuss these two possible MAJOR pointers, I must tell you that those who are using the 2010–2017 timeline are especially hopeful, as by their own admission, the Final 7 Years MUST begin no later than Nov. 8, 2010.  I remain totally convinced that the correct Biblical timeline for the Final 7 Years is Oct. 29, 2008, to Feast of Atonement, Sept. 23, 2015.  This makes the midpoint, or the start of the 1260-day Great Tribulation, Apr. 11, 2012.  All three of these dates have been marked specifically in the Heavens, just like Jesus promised.  No such claims can be made by the proponents of the 2010–2017, or 2007–2014 timelines.  To those of you who are proponents of the 2010–2017 time frame, if nothing happens in the next few days, I sincerely hope that many of you will give serious consideration to the correct Biblical time line of the Fall of 2008 to the Fall of 2015, being the Final 7 Years.
There remains only one more MAIN date to be discovered.  That, of course, is the date of the Rapture, the date that most all of us are anxiously awaiting.  After 37 years of studying end-times Bible Prophecy, my position on the Rapture, has evolved to the point where I am totally convinced that the time of the Rapture will be at the time of the Sudden Destruction.  It may, or may not, occur on a Feast Day.  I have thoroughly documented (, my position on why I believe, per Genesis 45, that we have every reason to expect the Rapture/Sudden Destruction to take place in the Fall of 2010.
In my opinion, there are two MAIN time frames left this Fall  when the Rapture/SD could take place.  As Grant Jeffrey has stated, the date of the 24th of Kislev, Hanukkah Eve, per Haggai 2, should be the time of World War III, Ezekiel 38 and 39. This year that translates to Dec. 1–3rd.  The other starts today, from Nov. 5–14th.  Perhaps the Sudden Destruction on the United States, possibly during this time when Obama is fleeing the country, is the opening shot of World War III, which could culminate several days later around Dec. 1st.
There has been so much already written about Obama’s 10-day trip, which starts today, Nov. 5th, costing up to TWO BILLION DOLLARS, that I am only going to discuss it briefly, and encourage those on my mailing list to go to and read especially today’s posts of Nov. 5th, and the previous few days.  The big question, as Glenn Beck keeps asking over and over again, is “Why???”  Why is Obama risking his life to do this?  Why right after the elections???  Why has this trip been postponed two or three times???  Why is it necessary to take 3000 people with him???  Why, when our country is in such economic straits, is he spending up to TWO BILLION DOLLARS of our hard-earned tax money to make such an outlandish trip???  Is it just a coincidence that Hillary Clinton is out of the country during this same time???
Rush Limbaugh is asking the question, “Is Obama coming back?”, as he wonders if this is a government in exile, as much of Obama’s top brass, and the country’s business leaders are going with him.   Many have wondered about the spiritual, or occultic, implications of this trip to India, highly Hindu, and Indonesia, the most populous Islamic country in the world.  On the other hand, why is Vice President Joe Biden being left behind, to meet with top U.S. Jewish leaders and Israeli leaders, including Benjamin Netanyahu, in New Orleans.
With Joseph undeniably being the most complete type of Jesus in the entire Word of God, with many of the details of Joseph’s life amazingly, and by divine design, paralleling the life of Jesus, we simply CANNOT IGNORE THE EXTREMELY SIGNIFICANT 7-YEAR FAMINE WEEK.  There can be no doubt this is a parallel of the Final 7 Years, which began on Oct. 29, 2008.  As of late Oct. of 2010, TWO YEARS HAVE NOW EXPIRED.
Gen. 45: 6–7 says, “For these TWO YEARS hath the famine been in the land:  and yet there are FIVE YEARS, in the which there shall neither be earing nor harvest.  And God sent me before you…TO SAVE YOUR LIVES BY A GREAT DELIVERANCE.”  It cannot be emphasized enough that we should have every reason to expect A GREAT DELIVERANCE, THE RAPTURE, TO TAKE PLACE TWO YEARS INTO THE FINAL 7 YEARS.  WE ARE THERE!!!  IT IS NOW EARLY NOVEMBER, 2010, AND WE ARE THERE!!!
The questions now are exactly when will our Great Deliverance take place, and what are we being delivered from?  On my website, you can read my post, “Simultaneous Rapture and Sudden Destruction”, which is totally supported from the Word of God.  The New World Order elite have openly and boldly proclaimed their plans for a “Planned Sudden Destruction”.  Out of chaos, or Sudden Destruction, shall come the New World Order is their motto.  Obama, who has been chosen, and annointed, to be the leader of the NWO, also has been planted in the U.S., to destroy our country.
Now this week he is fleeing the country for ten days.  Many people, and I repeat MANY, are questioning “WHY???”  His explanation is that he wants to see the Festival of Lights, and this explanation is readily accepted by the media to justify all of the hoopla and extravagence, and expense, and secretiveness, surrounding this highly suspicious flight from the country.  I suggest to you that it is very possible that Obama could be fleeing the country to avoid the NWO elite’s “Planned Sudden Destruction”, for our country.
These NWO elite are well on their way to having their dream fulfilled.  The world’s only superpower, the United States, is the one obstacle still standing in their way.  They have been elaborately scheming for a New World Order for many decades.   It is the last domino yet to fall.  From several end-time Bible Prophecy authors, such as Thomas Horn, author of “Apollyn Rising–2012”, we have learned of their scheming plans to establish a one-world government in the year 2012.  A “Planned Sudden Destruction”, of the United States, in late 2010, would seem to fall right in line, right on schedule, as it will give them over a year to organize, and structure, and set up the Mark of the Beast system, so that everything will be in place by April 11, 2012, the day that Obama is scheduled, per Revelation 13, to recover from the mortal head wound, and begin his 1260-day reign as the Antichrist.
He will probably come to power as the World President, or World Dictator, some time in 2011, as the Word says that he is given power to “CONTINUE”, for 42 months.  It is amazing the percentage of EVIL KINGS in the Old Testament that reigned for TWO YEARS ONLY.  Look it up for yourselves.  I believe it is a sign that the Lord is giving to us that the ULTIMATE EVIL KING, BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA, THE ANTICHRIST, will only rule as King, or President, of the U.S. for TWO YEARS.
For that to become reality, something really, really big HAS to happen very shortly.
That something really, really big MAY be ready to take place in the very near future.  I suggest to you that the October surprise that never materialized, MAY have been scheduled for November right along.  I do not pretend to know what this “Planned Sudden Destruction” may be, or from what source, other than to say that the New World Order elite, and Obama, are well aware of it.
This brings us to the other MAJOR pointer for the time period of Nov. 5–14th, of the Web bot.  I have never researched the Web bot.  I have read much from other sources that has been sent to my email account, or been posted on Five Doves.  It is not really known how scientific the Web bot website is.  It is NOT a Christian website.  We CANNOT rely on the Web bot to make predictions, concerning Bible Prophecy.  I do not know the formula the Web bot uses to make their forecasts, or predictions.
There are two reasons that I, and many other Biblical watchmen, are currently looking at the Web bot, for POSSIBLE forecasts.  The first reason is that they have been right on other forecasts, or predictions, most notably the infamous date of
09–11–01, and the massive terrorist attacks.  I do not know that they got the exact date right, but they did predict this within a few days.  Supposedly, Hurricane Katrina was also an event that they forecast correctly.  And there have been others.  The Web bot has also missed on occasion.
The other reason we are giving this consideration is because of the timing and the magnitude of what they are predicting.  Their latest projection is from Nov. 5th through Nov. 14th of this year, the EXACT ten-day time frame of Obama’s mysterious and question-raising trip out of the country, taking 3000 people with him.
I have been saying for well over one year now, that the next MAJOR event on God’s calendar is the opening of the 2nd Seal, which is WAR, with a GREAT SWORD.  Revelation 6:4 says, “And there went out another horse that was red:  and POWER WAS GIVEN TO HIM TO HIM THAT SAT THEREON TO TAKE PEACE FROM THE EARTH, AND THAT THEY SHOULD KILL ONE ANOTHER:  AND THERE WAS GIVEN UNTO HIM A GREAT SWORD.”
The Great Sword that is being mentioned is almost assuredly nuclear weapons.
Are Obama and the 3000 people fleeing a planned nuclear Sudden Destruction upon the United States.  Has Obama given the Russians, or Iranians, or Chinese, or North Koreans, or Muslim terrorists, the go-ahead to devastate, or even destroy, our country with weapons of mass destruction???????????  If this seems too extreme for some of you, please consider the following:
1.  Most Biblical Prophecy scholars see World War III, with Ezekiel 38 and 39, Russia and Iran’s massivie invasion of Israel, taking place VERY soon.  This is difficult to comprehend, with the U.S. being the world’s only superpower.  Something MAJOR must happen for Russia and Iran to be bold enough to make this Biblical thrust southward to Israel.
2.  I believe that 1st Seal has been opened with Obama’s rapid emergence to power in the U.S.   His “Conquering” has been done, with a bow with no arrows, according to Rev. 6:2.  He has been conquering the U.S. from within, and MAY be now poised to destroy it, whether completely, or partially, remains to be seen.  Next up, after the 1st Seal is the 2nd Seal, which we just read about, with WAR AND THE GREAT SWORD.
3.  If the U.S. is mentioned at all in end-times Bible Prophecy, it is only suggested as possibly mystery Babylon, which is destroyed in one hour.  Is the world about to witness this massive destruction???
4.  Obama, being the Biblical Antichrist, and being planted here to destroy the U.S., under the direction of the New World Order elite, with his anti-American views, his anti-Christian views, his pro-Muslim agenda, his NWO agenda, would certainly have no qualms about facilitating this Planned Sudden Destruction of the United States.  Those of you who have a better opinion of this evil man, need to read Revelation 13, to see what is about to take place with this wicked, arrogant, narcissistic tyrant, who is soon to become the World’s Evil Dictator.  I will pray that the Lord will give you spiritual discernment, and that you be not deceived like most of the rest of the world.
Revelation 13:7–8 says, “And it was given unto him TO MAKE WAR WITH THE SAINTS, AND TO OVERCOME THEM:  AND POWER WAS GIVEN HIM OVER ALL
kindreds, and tongues, and nations.  And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him…”
5.  According to Revelation 6, the results of the opening of the 1st four Seal Judgments is that one-fourth of the world will have perished, most of them directly, or indirectly, as a result of World War III.  This will be as a result of the nuclear destruction, and resulting diseases and worldwide famine.  One-fourth of the population of the world is over one and a half billion people.  So, the above projections from the Web bot may be vastly understated, if anything.
6.  Luke 17: 28–30 says, “As it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold, they planted, they builded; BUT THE SAME DAY that Lot went out of Sodom it rained fire and brimstone from heaven, and destroyed them ALL. EVEN THUS SHALL IT BE IN THE DAY THE SON OF MAN IS REVEALED.
These verses tell us about the SIMUNTANEOUS RAPTURE AND SUDDEN DESTRUCTION.  These verses tell us that ALL in the targeted areas were destroyed.  Are we awaiting the complete destruction of the United States?  Or are we awaiting the complete destruction of New York City?  Are one of these two entities Mystery Babylon?  Or are we awaiting massive terrorist attacks in several major U.S. cities?
One other possible scenario comes to mind.  Joe Biden, our V.P., is meeting with Jewish leaders from Israel and the U.S., including Netanyahu.  Some have suggested that the Bible Codes are indicating an assasination of Netanyahu, which will ignite World War III, and the Rapture.  If this is true, and it is risky trying to predict the future from the Bible Codes, IS THIS THE TIME???  Why are they meeting in New Orleans, and not Washington D.C., or New York City?  Is it because these other cities are targeted for disaster?  Is there a Planned Sudden Destruction, in the form of a massive tsunami, as a result of the recent Gulf Oil Catastrophe?  This could easily wipe out everyone in New Orleans.  Not a prediction, just thinking out loud of a possible alternative to World War III.
Not many people, even Bible Prophecy watchmen, understand the SNARE OR TRAP, that is currently being set by the New World Order elite, and Obama.  From my perspective, there has NEVER been a more appropriate time for this TRAP to spring than in the next few days.  The question needs to be asked once again, “Why, why, why, is Obama fleeing the country, risking his life, with 3000 other people, right after the elections???”  This possible Biblical scenario, pre-planned Sudden Destruction, opening of the 2nd Seal, fulfillment of Ezekiel 38 and 39 soon after, will undoubtedly be of such tremendous magnitude for Obama to immediately suspend the results of the U.S. elections indefinitely, allowing what is left of the United States, to continue on the destructive path, that Obama and the NWO elite have planned for it.
I just heard on Fox News today that the stock market just hit its highest mark for the entire year of 2010.  Over 99% of the church world, at least in the U.S., today is not looking for any Sudden Destruction to hit, either.  I cannot find a church anywhere near where I live that is warning their people about the closeness of the coming Sudden Destruction and the Judgments in the Book of Revelation.  Nope, it is business as usual, just as prophesied in Luke 17, right up until the time of Sudden Destruction.  Our churches are filled with backslidden, worldly, compromising, worldly, unwatchful, and lukewarm Christians, who are very content in their spiritual state.  We can only warn them.  We can only pray for them.  It is my sincere prayer than no one reading this email falls into any of the above categories.
Someone very dear to me once recorded a tape, with all Rapture songs.  One of the songs was played over and over again on the late Dr. Charles Taylor’s, of California, radio program.  The title of that fast-moving popular gospel song is “The Party’s Over”.  One line is worthy of repeating over and over again, as this is what a true Biblical watchman does:
If only the unsaved and worldly, lukewarm Christians would understand, and receive the annointed words of that great song.  Any day now it may be too late.  THE GREAT DELIVERANCE, THE RAPTURE, OF GENESIS 45, APPEARS READY TO TAKE PLACE.  THE ALL-ENCOMPASSING SNARE IS BEING SET AND THOSE WHOM THE LORD FINDS WORTHY, ARE THE ONLY ONES WHO WILL ESCAPE THIS TRAP, OF LUKE 21, WHICH IS THE SUDDEN DESTRUCTION OF 1ST THESSALONIANS 5.
Right after the verse about the snare, or trap, comes this verse in Luke 21:36, where Jesus warns ALL end-times Christians, “WATCH, ye therefore, and pray always, that YOU MAY BE ACCOUNTED WORTHY TO ESCAPE ALL THESE THINGS THAT SHALL COME TO PASS, AND TO STAND BEFORE THE SON OF MAN (JESUS).
I know I speak for many thousands, when I say thank you, John, for all of your years of dedicated service to this wonderful ministry of Five Doves, and to the Lord.  I know firsthand what a large ministry like this can involve, and because of our human frailities and limitations, how easy it can become to experience burnout and weariness and fatigue and frustration.  You have held up very well, John.  May the Lord continue to give you strength and guidance and patience from now until the day of our blessed Lord’s Soon Return. It should not be long now, John, not long at all.
Ron Reese



This is another article with the same Simpsons U Tube video.


Deborah (5 Nov 2010)


Could this be why Obama and 3,000 people have vacated Wash DC? His entourage departs Nov 5th.  Hillary is already out of the country.   My guess is that the attack will be in Wash DC. <<<<<WATCH!!





Written by twelvebooks

November 5, 2010 at 6:41 pm

Steve Shackleton (5 Nov 2010) “Obama Trip”

More news about the Obama trip


Steve Shackleton (5 Nov 2010)
Obama Trip



Does the huge entourage of people (3,000) Planes (over 30) and naval ships (34 as reported by Drudge) raise your spiritual radar to condition red like it does mine? 800 rooms have been rented at a per day cost of 200 million dollars. This all stinks to me and I think something much bigger than a 10 day visit to India is in the works.

It is almost like a shifting of Obama’s base of operations. Most of the White house staff is in tow. It will be interesting to see how this all plays out.

Steve Shackleton


Written by twelvebooks

November 5, 2010 at 6:20 pm

Robert Rose (5 Nov 2010) “Update On OBAMA EXODUS and Soon to be Terror?”

Well it is important to understand what the message of this article is. It looks that all the important elements of our Nation have decided to leave the country in these times. Is a nuclear attack planned for the next few days, watch the video by the Simpsons it is very freaky.


Robert Rose (5 Nov 2010)
“Update On OBAMA EXODUS and Soon to be Terror?”


Obama just signed new Executive order about the line of succession within the DOJ!

What the heck is going on?

Oh, look who else will happen to be out of the country:

WASHINGTON, Nov. 4 (Xinhua) — U.S. Defense Secretary Robert Gates is to leave Washington Friday for trips to Australia and Malaysia, Pentagon Press Secretary Geoff Morrell told reporters Thursday.

Gates will join Secretary of State Hillary Clinton and their Australian hosts, Foreign Minister Stephen Smith and Defense Minister John Faulkner, in Melbourne for the 25th anniversary Australian-U.S. ministerial meetings (AUSMIN), announced Morrell.

Nov. 2-16: Hillary Clinton out of town to: Hawaii, Vietnam, China, Cambodia, Malaysia, Papua New Guinea, New Zealand, Australia and American Samoa.

Nov. 4-14 (?): President and entourage out of USA (I think Obama leaves Nov. 5)

Nov. 5: V series “Remember Remember the 5th of November” (Guy Hawks Day); Atlanta Federal Reserve holds meeting on Jekyll Island

Nov. 5-9: Vice President Biden hosts Israeli-Palestinian Peace Talks in New Orleans at the Jewish Federations General Assembly/International Lion of Judah Conference; also attending: Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, Israeli Opposition Leader Livni, and Israeli Defense Minister Ehud Barak

Nov. 5-14: Webbot “Tipping Point”

Nov. 6-14: Timewave Zero plunge til Feb. ’11

Nov. 6: Atlanta Federal Reserve holds meeting on Jekyll Island

Nov. 6: “Simpsons” show has hidden nuke message for this day

Nov. 7: “Terminator” movie says “Storm coming” on this day

Nov. 8: “Heroes” show says nuclear explosion on this day

Nov. 8: Hebrew “Mazzaroth” Cal. says actual Rosh Hoshanna

Nov. 11: Steve Quayle warns of possible Bank Holiday

Nov. 12: Movie “Skyline” released of mass alien abductions

Also here’s the itinerary for Obama’s trip:

This is what I know about the itinerary for Obama’s trip abroad in early November:

Nov. 6-10 India (New Dehli, Mumbai): longest stay in a foreign country since becoming President)

Nov. 11-12 South Korea (Seoul): G-20 Conference

Nov. 13-14 Japan (Yokohama): Asia-Pacific Economic Cooperation (APEC) Economic Leaders Summit

Nov. 15-18 Indonesia (Jakarta): The Association of Southeast Asian Nations (ASEAN)-Japan

Nov. 19-20 Spain (Lisbon): NATO & European Union meetings

Just keeping everyone “up to speed”.


Robert Rose

PS:  Is something on the horizon?  Nukes? Rapture? War?  We shall see, but always be ready to meet Jesus Christ.

Nov 5, 2010 Economic Collapse of the World Economy next week?

The importance of this article should be evident to you readers.

There are several important issues discussed here and it is a very good compilation of facts that was done by the author of the article Patty Hayes.


Patty Hayes (5 Nov 2010)


Compilation of EXTREME IMPORTANCE TO KNOWPatty Hayes


Emergency Request For Additional Verification From Those In The Banking World On Rumored Bank Shutdowns: QUESTION: When in U.S. History has a sitting President taken off on an overseas trip for an extended period of time, with 65 airplanes, 34 warships reportedly 3,000 people including his friends and cohorts, at the pinnacle of an economic and political upheaval. ANSWER: Never!

So what’s up? Yesterday I received a call that should alarm for even the most “comatose in La La Land”. A pastor known to the gentleman who called me had been called into a very prominent East Coast bank to tell the pastor by one of its top people at the bank that a bank holiday is coming as early as Nov 11.

The bank official has been friends with this pastor for a long time. The only thing that was said, was for the pastor to realize that once the banks reopened, that all withdrawals by checks would be limited to $500 per week – no matter what the balance in the account is. No period of Time for the length of the Banks closures were given. Coupled with information posted last year on this site from major Mid-west banking consortium it dovetails perfectly.

Ladies and Gentlemen, if you have been paying attention to France, Britain, Ireland and Greece, which at this point are the poster children for financial rioting, can you even begin to imagine the Ramifications of Financial Rioting In the U.S? The once hidden attack ,now in plain sight, against world finances, is in full scale operational mode in order to destroy by design, all national currencies and to bring on “A ONE WORLD CURRENCY AND GLOBAL GOVERNMENT”!

Once again consider our mutual dependence upon electronic verification of every sales transaction, credit card purchase and bank deposits and or withdrawals. Whether most understand or comprehend, most wealth on financial statements and Balance sheets are numbers, computer entries and IOU’s of dubious quality. Think about the old adage –“Possession is Nine Tenths of the Law”. In other words, if it’s not in your hands it’s in some one else’s hands no matter how much you try and rationalize it away!

This is a defining moment–AMERICA IS BANKRUPT and the rest of the world is no longer willing to go along with Quantitative Easing, which means printing money out of thin air with nothing to back it up but global war! Every nation that has tried to print its way out of an insurmountable debt situation ends up embroiled in internal war and usually under the leadership of a dictator who is as willing to spill the blood of his countrymen, as fast as he prints more worthless currency! The reason you all have a sense of SOMETHING BIG getting ready to happen is the FACT that it is HAPPENING NOW. When all commerce ceases, no goods are on the store shelves and all transportation comes to a silent stop. Then will it be clear, even to those who finally get it, that the only ones who will be eating, other than those who have prepared, are the zombies, and none of us want to end up on their evening menu!….

Rome: 60 Years of the Human Rights Convention
Rome marked the 60th anniversary of the European Convention on Human Rights by organising an event in the historic Palazzo Barberini where the Convention has been signed by Ten founding member states of the Council of Europe: Belgium, Denmark, France, Ireland, Italy, Luxembourg, the Netherlands, Norway, Sweden, United Kingdom.


Bernanke: Federal Reserve caused Great Depression
Despite the varied theories espoused by many establishment economists, it was none other than the Federal Reserve that caused the Great Depression and the horrific suffering, deprivation and dislocation America and the world experienced in its wake. At least, that’s the clearly stated view of current Fed Chairman Ben Bernanke.

(Bernanke just bought up $600,000,000 of our USA debt)

Forbes article: Bernanke’s $600 Billion Helicopter – Commodities …

Nov 3, 2010 Only $600 billion of buying back our own debt announced today. That is why Baldwin ended his article entitled Bernanke’s $600 Billion…/forbes-article-bernanke600-billion-helicopter.htm

Oil rises above $85 after Fed bond buying decision (Bye Bye Dollar)

24 posts – 19 authors – Last post: 11 hours agoThe Govt buying its own debt. Financial incest. …. political theatre was going on, Ben Bernanke announced the monetization of another $600 billion of our debt. They are purposely collapsing our economy and the dollar.

Side note:  Glenn Beck is doing an extreme important to know program 11/05/2010 5pm est 2pm pst. about Bernanke and beginning with 11/03/2010 15 day countdown to the end of the financial fallout of our economy.  He states it is over by the 15th day.


Obama Rallies With Day After Election Upsets
During his press conference today, President Obama reassured the American people that he would focus on working with friends and foes across the aisle. Meanwhile, on a conference call with activists, the president signaled he’s looking to continue pursuing his liberal agenda, working hard to “deliver the change the American people want… We didn’t sign up for what was easy,” he said.INTERFAITH MOVEMENT, INTERNATIONAL

Christians, Muslims Gather to Build a Common Future
Christian and Muslim leaders are gathered in Geneva for a high-level interfaith dialogue on how to build strong and sustainable relationships between the two groups and how the religious communities can use their resources to transform their communities.

LOVING GOD AND NEIGHBOR…Letter in NY Times with the “Christian signatures”

“A COMMON WORD BETWEEN US AND YOU” bridging interfaith relationships.

Influential Theologian Troubled by Christian-Muslim Dialogue
“We don’t believe that Jesus Christ is our hero. We don’t believe that Jesus Christ is merely our prophet. He is Prophet and Priest and King,” Mohler said, according to the Southern Baptist Theological Seminary’s Towers news service. “He is the incarnate Son of God. He is the second person of the Trinity. He is the Lord over all.

By the way…this maybe coming to a church near you….unknowingly.


Per Jack Van Impe 11/03/2010.

Jack does a comparative religion program showing the differences in between the Christian faith and Islam. He shows what the beliefs are of Islam about Jesus that has now been whitewashed or PC’d here in the US even in our churches presentation of Islam.


Sandra Jean (4 Nov 2010) “4 MARKS OF A HELL-BOUND MAN (1,2,3,4 OF 4) by JOHN MAC ARTHUR”

These letters were submitted today by Sandra, they were done by John Mac Arthur a Bible scholar and one of the best teachers I have had the great pleasure to listen to for almost 30 years. thank you for these four letters about how to be saved.


Sandra Jean (4 Nov 2010)


4 Marks of a Hell-Bound Man

John 8:21-30

February 11, 1990   | 

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As I have been traveling across America this past week and ministering in a number of cities and encountering a number of people, I have been reminded again of the tragic reality that there is a world dying in sin. And as I was thinking about our brief meditation time this morning in preparation for the Lord’s table, my heart was drawn to John chapter 8. Would you open your Bible for a moment and look with me at one of the most tragic portions of Scripture reflecting the ministry of our Lord?

In John 8 Jesus says these tragic words in verse 21, “I go away and you shall seek Me and shall die in your sin. Where I’m going, you cannot come.” Then again in verse 24, “I said therefore to you that you shall die in your sins, for unless you believe that I am He, you shall die in your sins.” Three times Jesus makes that tragic condemnation…You shall die in your sin…you shall die in your sins…once in the singular, twice in the plural.

You’ve all heard the expression, “He has nobody to blame but himself.” You’ve probably used it, I have. And while that axiom is true in many ways in the natural world, it is also true in the supernatural and spiritual dimension as well. When anyone dies in their sins, they have no one to blame but themselves. If a person dies in sin, to perish in an eternity of punishment, there is no one to blame but himself. Back in the first chapter of this marvelous gospel as we were being introduced to its truth, the Holy Spirit recorded these words of Christ, “There was the true light which coming into the world enlightens every man. He was in the world and the world was made through Him and the world did not know Him.”

It fascinates me that the Holy Spirit has said that the true light, namely Christ, coming into the world enlightens every man. There is a sense in which every man who has ever lived on the face of the earth is responsible for some degree of the light. In Romans chapter 1 we are told that the creation reveals certain things about God, conscience reveals certain things about God. In chapter 2 of Romans Paul says, “Conscience actually excuses and accuses even the pagans.” And all of these Scriptures remind us that man has been given sufficient light which if lived up to will lead to further light and even the light of the knowledge of Christ. The tragedy is that man does not live up to the light. Man willfully refuses the light and as John 3 tells us, “Man loves darkness rather than light because his deeds are evil.”

As wonderful as it is for us to experience the love of Christ and the peace of Christ, the joy of salvation, to know the hope of eternal life, it is equally tragic that there are many who flatly blatantly overtly reject it. They refuse the light, choose the darkness because they love their sin. The amazing part of the passage we just noted, however, is that Jesus was not speaking to out and out wicked people. He was not speaking to the immoral riffraff of His society, He was speaking to the religious leaders. He was speaking to the experts in Old Testament revelation. He was telling the most religious people of all that they were going to die in their sins and never be able to come where He was going.

How did that happen? How is it that people die in their sins unforgiven? How does that happen? Unjustified, unconverted, unregenerated, unredeemed and bound for everlasting hell. Well, there are four attitudes that guarantee you will die in your sin, four attitudes. If you want to die in your sin then these four things will make that a reality.

MARK Number one, be self-righteous…be self-righteous. The first step to dying in your sin is to be completely content with the condition you’re in, to feel that you have no need of a savior, you have no severe sin problem, you’re a good person, you may even think you’re better than average. And certainly when God scores on the little sheet that He keeps, you’re going to have more good points than bad ones. Imagine yourself having attained some righteousness through religious activity and ceremony and believe that you have no serious sin problem, therefore no need to bow the knee in humble broken repentance before God and plead for the mercy of the Savior, and I guarantee you will die in your sin.

In verse 21 Jesus said, “I go away and you shall seek Me and die in your sin, where I’m going you cannot come.” He said we’re going to be separated. We’re going to be in different places. You’re never going to be where I am because you’re going to die in your sin…you’re going to die unforgiven, unconverted, unjustified, unprepared to meet God.

What He is saying is very simple. Coming toward the end of His ministry and the end of His life He is saying, “I’m going to return to My Father in heaven, I’m going back to the glory of the presence of God. You…you will vaguely look for a Messiah, you will hopelessly pursue a Messiah, but you have already rejected and blindly misunderstood the Messiah so you will seek and seek and never find and you will die some day but where I go you will never comes. There is no way unto God but through Me,” he said, “You reject Me and you will never be in the presence of God. The eternal home of the Father which is open to Me is closed to you.”

In John 7:36 He said, “You will seek Me and will not find Me and where I am you cannot come.” Jesus is announcing the doom of an unforgiven sinner. But what as I said is so interesting about this is that these were the religiously elite. These were the people who fancied themselves in the know, who thought that they really knew God. Now if you want to see how self-righteous they are, notice their response to Jesus’ statement, the response comes in verse 22. “Therefore the Jews,” and by the way that term when used by John generally means the leaders, the Pharisees and the scribes and in this case it does, the Jewish leaders were saying, listen to this, “Surely He will not kill Himself, will He? Since He says where I am going you cannot come.” What a strange response that is. What a difficult statement to understand, why would they say such a thing?

Well, first of all they knew He was talking about death when He said, “I go away and you shall seek Me, shall die in your sins, where I’m going you cannot come.” They knew He was talking about death, that was clear. But they mocked what He said by bringing up the issue of suicide. Let me tell you why. Orthodox Judaism views suicide as utterly unthinkable. In fact, the Jews believed for centuries that anyone who committed suicide was literally and eternally relegated to the darkest part of the eternal pit of punishment, that someone who committed suicide would go to the darkest part of eternity. Josephus said that and Josephus also said that the Jews believed that a person who committed suicide would be separated forever from the place of comfort and peace known as Abraham’s Bosom. So what these self- righteous Jews are saying is this, “Oh, so You’re going to a place where we can’t come, then You must be going to the darkest part of the pit because we’re on our way to heaven.” They reversed the whole thing. That’s how smugly confident they were in their own self-righteousness, that the sinless perfect spotless Son of the living God whose words they had heard, whose works they had seen, whose character had impressed them was to be jeered and mocked and blasphemed and treated sarcastically and assigned to the darkest pit when compared with what they deserved. What unbelievable and blasphemous self-righteousness. “Maybe He’s going to kill Himself,” they say, “so He will go to that black pit where we will never go since we are the righteous.” That is the amazing and tragic reality of religious self-righteousness. It lives under such boastful pride that it makes unimaginable assumptions and blasphemes even the Son of God.

And so, they stand there, already blinded to His works, deaf to His words and now stupidly they ignore the warning that they shall die in their sin with all the horror that that involves in an eternal hell and they turn it into a mocking joke about Jesus committing suicide. And again they turn their venom on the Son of God.

He was going to a place where they couldn’t come. But that place was heaven. That place was the Father’s presence. That place was the place of eternal glory. And they were going to another place, a place of condemnation, out of the presence of God known as hell. But they were so self-righteous, they didn’t think their sin was a problem and they didn’t think they needed a savior, they thought they were all right, they were religious, they were moral to some degree, that was sufficient. You want to guarantee that you’ll die in your sin, just live with that attitude and I’ll promise you, you’ll die in your sin. Believe you don’t have a sin problem, believe you don’t need a Savior and a redeemer. And they laughed at Jesus and they laughed until they died and then they cried in the hell they never thought they’d reach.

You see, the Jews had developed a system of salvation by human achievement and these were the epitome of the achievers. But as Luke 16:15 says, “That which is highly esteemed in the sight of men is an abomination to God.” And they being ignorant of God’s righteousness, Romans 10 says, went about to establish their own righteousness and they didn’t realize that by the deeds of the law shall no flesh be justified in His sight. The way of a fool, says Proverbs, is right in his own eyes. But they were wrong.

So it’s very simple, if you want to die in your sin, just be self-righteous. Count on the religion of human achievement, count on crediting your good works and your good deeds.

During a campaign for evangelism in Melbourne, Australia, a Melbourne daily paper received this letter which it printed. “After hearing the evangelist on the air, viewing him on television, and seeing reports and letters concerning his mission, I am heartily sick of the type of religion that insists my soul and everyone else’s needs saving…whatever that means. I have never felt that I was lost nor do I feel that I daily wallow in the mire of sin, although repetitious preaching insists that I do. Give me a practical religion that teaches gentleness and tolerance, that acknowledges no barriers of color or creed, that remembers the aged and teaches children goodness and not sin. If in order to save my soul I must accept such a philosophy as I have recently heard preached, I prefer to remain forever damned.” That’s his choice, he would have nobody to blame but himself. If you prefer to remain forever damned, then be self- righteous and imagine you don’t have a sin problem, you don’t need a savior.

Look at verse 23, “And Jesus answered saying to them, You are from below, I am from above.” What He’s saying here is, “Wait a minute, I think you have the directions mixed. I am a citizen who belongs to the above kingdom, you are a citizen who belongs to the below kingdom. I think you have it reversed.” What a blow. They are saying, “Well, maybe He’s going to the pit because we’re going to heaven.” He says, “You’ve got it reversed, I belong to the above, you belong to the below.”

And the implication here is that you don’t have to wait to be a citizen of that kingdom, you’re already a citizen. In verse 44 He says, “You’re of your father, the devil. You’re children of the devil. You’re part already of the kingdom of darkness which in its final form is the eternal hell. But you already have your belonging place there. Your unbelief, your hypocrisy, your false religion, your willful ignorance, your unwillingness to come to the knowledge of Christ are right out of the pit and your represent that, you are under the rule…Ephesians 2 says…of the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that now works in the children of disobedience.” The whole world, says John the Apostle, lies in the lap of the wicked one, 1 John 5:19.  So, if you want to die in your sin, just imagine that you’re fit for heaven on your own, you don’t need a savior, and you will die in your sin.

second letter

Sandra Jean (4 Nov 2010)


Second point, how to die in your sin, secondly, be worldly…be worldly. Verse 23 again, “You are of this world, I am not of this world.” Here is another guarantee that a person will die in his sins. Simply be a part of this kosmos. Kosmos here, and we’ve discussed that many times in our church, but kosmos refers to the invisible spiritual system of evil that fights the kingdom of God…the invisible spiritual system of evil. It is the cares of the world and the deceitfulness of riches referred to in Matthew 13:22 which chokes out the seed.

We use the term in that way. We talk about the system with the term word. For example, we talk about the world of politics, or the world of education, or the world of sports, or whatever. And what we mean is the system that makes up those particulars. He says to them, “You are of this system.” In fact, in Luke 16:8 He says, “You are children of the system, children of the kosmos as you are children of the devil.” The world system is opposed to truth, it is opposed to righteousness, it is opposed to holiness, it is opposed to purity. In fact, Jesus gave Himself, Galatians 1:4 says, for our sins that He might deliver us from this present system of evil. The system is hostile to godliness, it is hostile to virtue. Look at the system. By materialism, humanism, sex, carnal ambition, pride, greed, self‑pleasure, self‑desire, it exists. Its opinions are wrong. Its aims are selfish. Its pleasures are sinful. Its influences are demoralizing. Its politics are corrupt. Its honors are empty. Its smiles are fake. Its love is false and fickle, and on and on and on and on.

And the world will self‑destruct. It is a passing world. Remember the words of the Apostle John, “Do not love the world or the system, nor the things in the system. If anyone loves the system, the love of the Father is not in him, for all that is in the system, the lust of the flesh, the lust of the eyes, and the boastful pride of life is not from the Father but is from the system, out from the system and the system, or the world, is passing away.” Three things characterize it, lust of the flesh, passion; lust of the eyes, covetousness; pride of life, boastful arrogance. That’s the system. And if you love the system, the love of the Father is not in you.

James gave us the same truth in different words. “You adulteresses, do you not know that friendship with the system is hostility toward God? Therefore, whoever wishes to be a friend of the system makes himself an enemy of God.” You can’t have both. These sinful selfish earthbound souls who live in the system controlled by the prince of this world, the prince of the system are separated from Jesus Christ by an infinite gulf.

The Christian, however, has been crucified to the system. He has died to the system. Oh, it’s still there but it’s not our life, it’s not our domain. We have been translated from the kingdom of darkness into the kingdom of His dear Son. Satan’s not our prince, Christ is our King. The old patterns are not those that drive us. Now the law of God is that in which we delight and obedience is our deepest heart desire. For a man to die in his sins, he need only be self‑righteous and be worldly.

Third letter

Sandra Jean (4 Nov 2010)


Thirdly, and here’s the crux, be unbelieving…be unbelieving. In verse 24, “I said therefore to you that you shall die in your sins for unless you believe that I am He, you shall die in your sins.” If you don’t put your faith in who I am, which embodies all of My person and work, you will die in your sin.

That’s the crux. Now the way of escape is open, the way of salvation is open. Believe in the Lord Jesus Christ and you will be saved, said Paul to the Philippian jailer. If you believe in your heart God has raised Him from the dead and confess with your mouth He is Lord, you will be saved. It’s available. Salvation is offered.

But the one who persists in unbelief, who will not believe that Jesus is God, who will not believe that He is God in human flesh come as a redeemer to pay the price of sin, that He rose from the dead for our justification, that He is sovereign Lord…the one who will not believe that, who will not embrace in faith all that He is and all that He has done will die in his sins. And when He says, “If you will not believe that I am He,” He is summing up the fullness of all that He is. God’s name, you remember, “I am that I am.” And to believe that Jesus is the great “I am” is to believe that He is all that He claimed to be. “I am,” He said, “the bread of life. I am the living water. I am the light of the world. I am the good shepherd. I am the vine. I am the resurrection and the life.” And if you believe that He is all that He claimed to be, and you place your faith in Him, you will escape death in its eternal consequence. But if you don’t believe, you’ll die in your sin.

In John chapter 3, you remember the last verse, verse 36, “He who believes in the Son has eternal life, but he who doesn’t obey the Son shall not see life but the wrath of God abides on him.” Just don’t believe and you’ll be damned forever.

To die in your sins, all you have to do is be self‑righteous, don’t think sin is a big problem and believe you’re already good enough, be worldly, get yourself totally engulfed in this system, be driven by the lust of the flesh, the lust of the eyes, the pride of life, serve your father, Satan, and then just refuse to believe that Christ is all that He said He was in a full expression of faith that embraces Him fully as one’s own redeemer, just don’t do that and you’ll die in your sin.

Fourth letter

Sandra Jean (4 Nov 2010)


Fourthly and lastly, be willfully ignorant…be willfully ignorant. It’s unimaginable what their response is to this conversation in verse 25 and so they were saying to Him, “Who are You?” That is an unbelievable question. You know, that is an unimaginable response when you stop to realize the ministry that Jesus has had up to this point…healing people, creating food to feed the mouths, as it were, of multitudes of people, walking on the water, creating wine at a wedding, incredible power. They had seen this, many of them first hand, they had heard His powerful words, words which had never been spoken by any man. And yet they say, “Who are You?” It reminds me of the blind man in chapter 9, they came to him and said, “Who is He that did this? Where is He from? And he said, You mean, you don’t know where He’s from and He made me see?” If he was living today he would say, “Come on, give me a break. You ought to know where He’s from. I was blind, He made me see. Take a wild guess.” Here they ask the same sneering question in different form, “Who are You…You, literally, You, who are You? Who do You think You are telling us these things, saying these things? What in the world gives You a right to assume that You’re going to go above and we’re going to go below? That we’re going to die in our sins and You’re going to go somewhere in the presence of God where we can’t come, who do You think You are? Who are you?”

This is just willful ignorance. It should have been patently obvious who He was. How else could it be explained that He was God, if not by what He did, what He said, what He was, and they had seen it all. And Jesus responds by saying, verse 25, “What have I been saying to you from the beginning? I’ve been telling you who I am, I’ve been telling you over and over who I am. It’s not a secret.” Early on He said the temple was My Father’s house. He said, “You destroy Me and three days I’ll rise again.” He said to Nicodemus that He was the Son of God. He said to the woman at the well that He was the promised one, the Savior. It was clear. The message had been given. He had said in that tremendous section in John chapter 5 that all judgment had given from the Father to Him, that He would literally raise the dead, just and unjust, to the resurrection of life and the resurrection of damnation. It was obvious who He was. He had said, “I am the light of the world, you follow Me, you’ll never walk in darkness.” He said, “I’m the water of life, you drink of Me and you’ll never thirst.” He said, “I’m the bread, you eat of Me you’ll never hunger.” He said, “You better eat My flesh, drink My blood or you’ll never know God and be saved.” He had said it all and He had verified it with a powerful display of miracles. And then stupidly they stand there and say, “Who are You?” And He says, “What have I been saying to you from the beginning?”

And then He says this in verse 26, “I have many things to speak and to judge concerning you, but He who sent Me is true and the things which I heard from Him, these I speak to the world.” He says, “I have more to say to you and what I have to say to you comes from God and God is true and God wants Me to speak these things. I have more to say and these are words of judgment. And they’re not His words alone, they’re the words of God who is the judge.” Back in verse 16 He said, “My judgment is true, I’m not alone in it.”

So, He’s saying to them, “Hey, I’ve said a lot to you and you ought to know who I am, and now since you’ve come to the point where you don’t know who I am, I have something more to say to you but what I have more to say to you is about judgment.” So you move fairly rapidly from chapter 8 verse 12 where He says, “I am the light of the world, he that followeth Me shall not walk in darkness,” there’s an invitation, now comes a condemnation. “I have more to say to you but it’s about judgment and I get it from God.” And to show you how ignorant they were, verse 27, they didn’t realize He had been speaking to them about the Father. They didn’t know who He was and they didn’t know who His Father was and they didn’t even know when He was talking about God. That’s how ignorant they were and ignorant because of willful rejection.

In verse 28 He said then to their ignorance, “When you lift up the Son of Man then you’ll know.” What does He have in mind there? His crucifixion. He says, “When I’m crucified, lifted up, then you’ll know that I am He and I do nothing on My own initiative but I speak the things as the Father taught Me. You’ll know I am the promised one. You’ll know I came from God. You’ll know God sent Me and speaks through Me. You’ll know it when I’m lifted up.”

How would they know it? Well if they had their eyes open, just standing there at the base of the cross and watching what He was doing would have revealed it enough. After all, the centurion said, “Truly, truly this was the Son of God.” How did he see it? He saw it in just what was happening on the cross. Add to that that the graves burst open and dead people came alive. Add to that that the veil of the temple was ripped from top to bottom and the access to God was thrown open. Add to that that in 70 A.D. 1.1 million Jews in Jerusalem were massacred and 72 A.D. 20 thousand were slain in Galilee, ten thousand Jewish throats were cut in Damascus in one day. Add to that fifty years later Hadrian destroyed 985 towns in Palestine and slew 580 thousand men and many more were killed in the concomitant events of that massacre.

Stop and look. Add to that that a church was born and Apostles went out in miraculous power preaching and healing, casting out demons and the church was growing and exploding and they filled Jerusalem with their doctrine and they turned the world upside down. He says lift Me up and you’ll know…you’ll know that I am He and I speak for God. The cross will be the point at which history will be so dramatically altered you’ll have to know if you’re not blind by your own desire. You’ll know.

And then Jesus adds again the most essential aspect of His claim, His relation to God in verse 29, “He who sent Me is with Me, He has not left Me alone, for I always do the things that are pleasing to Him.” He just sort of wants to make sure they realize again that He is no operating independent but He is equal to God.

How do you die in your sins? Be self‑righteous, be worldly, be

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