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April 30, 2011 Who was not invited to the royal wedding?

It is interesting to note that one very powerful person was not invited to Friday’s royal wedding or the one to come at the Rapture.

The Antichrist!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Nando

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Written by twelvebooks

April 30, 2011 at 5:11 pm

April 30, 2011 A royal wedding invitation to the bride

Ola today you wrote about the royal wedding being a sign to the world and specially to the church of the Rapture.

I agree with your conclusion and have so expressed to my wife. Yesterday, the day of the wedding the phone rang at my house at 5.45 AM. It was my mother in law to wake my wife up so that she could see the wedding. With a lot of interruptions she became mesmerized by this wedding all day long. Late at night 8.45 AM I cooked dinner so that she could remain seeing the replay of the wedding, but I could not understand her fixation with this event. She is always complaining about the time I devote to this blog so I felt I must be experiencing what she experiences with me.

This morning I woke up early and I started to think that I am also concentrating an inordinate amount of time to the Royal Wedding and what she started doing yesterday I have been doing for more than 25 years without stop.

Yes my Royal Wedding involves the King’s children also. God the Father and the Holy Spirit started the birth of their son the Lord of Lords and king of kings Jesus Christ that will be married to His Bride the church, kingly sons and daughters of the Ruler of the Universe.

The wedding has been planned and the date chosen since before the creation of the Universe. The invitation was send through the word of God the King through His prophets and His Son the groom and written in the pages of the Holy Bible.

The angels are preparing the vestments and all the table and supper for the celebration. It will be a spring wedding just as the wedding yesterday. The exact day only the Father of the groom knows, but the bride will hear the shout and the trumpet will sound to summon the bride.

The transportation will not be horses or a Rolls Royce car, but angels or a powerful traction force that will lift us up. The vestments are all pure white as an adorned bride is and they will be given in the translation to meet the groom.

The wedding is called the Rapture the groom is called Lord of Lords and King of Kings Jesus Christ.

The bride will wear one or more crowns and will be given also a new name one chosen by the groom.

O how wonderful an analogy to what happened in this earthly wedding and how close we are to it.

I told my wife that I am guilty of spending a great amount of time in a Royal Wedding as she has done and sat to view with her more of this ceremony finding similitude to the Rapture in the ceremony.

God bless you all of the bride.

Nando

http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/apr2011/ola430-2.htm

Ola Ilori (30 Apr 2011)
THE ROYAL WEDDING WAS A MESSAGE TO THE WORLD!


Hi Doves,

On the 29th of April 2011, through the marriage ceremony of William and Kate, Jesus Christ was indeed glorified! 

2 Billion people heared the very essence of the gospel message –

 

And that is, faith expressed, through the marriage of two people, signifying the Marriage between Christ and His Church. 

I really believe the whole World has been given a 21 Day notice, through this royal couple, of the Marriage that is going to take place, between the Lord and His Bride, on the 20th of May 2011.

 

Note carefully the words of introduction given by Reverend Dr John Hall, the Dean Westminster.

 


 The Dean gives

 

THE WELCOME AND INTRODUCTION

 

Dearly beloved, we are gathered here in the sight of God, and in the face of this congregation,

to join together this man and this woman in Holy Matrimony; which is an honourable estate,

instituted of God himself, signifying unto us the mystical union that is betwixt Christ and his

Church; which holy estate Christ adorned and beautified with his presence, and first miracle

that he wrought, in Cana of Galilee, and is commended in Holy Writ to be honourable among

all men; and therefore is not by any to be enterprised, nor taken in hand, unadvisedly, lightly, or

wantonly; but reverently, discreetly, soberly, and in the fear of God, duly considering the causes

for which Matrimony was ordained.

First, It was ordained for the increase of mankind according to the will of God, and that children

might be brought up in the fear and nurture of the Lord, and to the praise of his holy name.

Secondly, It was ordained in order that the natural instincts and affections, implanted by God,

should be hallowed and directed aright; that those who are called of God to this holy estate,

should continue therein in pureness of living.

Thirdly, It was ordained for the mutual society, help, and comfort, that the one ought to have of

the other, both in prosperity and adversity.

Into which holy estate these two persons present come now to be joined.

Therefore if any man can shew any just cause why they may not lawfully be joined together, let

him now speak, or else hereafter for ever hold his peace.

Ola Ilori (23 Apr 2011)
THE ROYAL WEDDING IS A MESSAGE TO THE WORLD


Hi Doves,
I believe the Royal wedding is giving a message to the World, that the Marriage of the Lamb is about to take place!
The Royal Wedding will take place between William and Kate on the 29th of April 2011.
It is estimated that over 2 Billion people will watch it from around the World.
21 Days later, on the 20th of May 2011,[the 16th of Nisan],
I believe the Lord will call up His Bride, into Heaven, were the true Royal Wedding will be held!
Then, over 5 Billion people will watch millions ascend up into heaven to the Wedding, they all were invited to, but chose not to attend.
Ola.

Written by twelvebooks

April 30, 2011 at 4:44 pm

Nicole (30 Apr 2011) “The “Birth” of the Antichrist”

Nicole you wrote a very good article today. I have made some of your links active so that it is easy to get to them.

The subjects of your article are three fold and I agree with them. First Barrack Hussein Obama is the Antichrist as you have stated. The release of this document is seen by different people in different ways as you so aptly mentioned. In today’s Miami Herald on the opinion page there were ten letters to the editor total and six were about the birth-certificate all of them making fun or calling those who support the people asking for a release racist or other derogatory statement. One letter was making fun of Pat Robertson statement of God’s wrath? on the tornadoes that swept the USA. I will try to include them at the end.

Second I want to point out that yes we are very close to the end as you also mentioned.

And third the royal wedding in England is a prelude of another Royal Wedding (ours) that I intent to write more about.

Nando

http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/apr2011/nicole430-2.htm

Nicole (30 Apr 2011)
The “Birth” of the Antichrist


The release of the birth certificate now is strategic.   If you were looking at this from one perspective and liked Obama, you would think he did this because he was tired of being hounded and finally said, enough is enough from a surface level.   Now if you wanted to go a level deeper, you would start to think that this man is trying to run for office in 2012 and secure his footing in the race.  I am sure Obama’s followers think at the first level, and the conservative politicians who want him removed from office think at this second level.

But here is yet a deeper level to convince you of the times that we are living in which the watchers think at.

1) Jesus died 4/3 33AD and rose the morning of 4/6 33AD.   This year in 2011 it has been 1978 years since His resurrection.

2) This year we celebrated the resurrection of our Lord Jesus on the world recognized day of Easter on 4/24/2011.  Obama did not speak out to the nation or world to wish them a happy Easter, and we see a picture of lightening striking the White House that day.   I only found this article, so I believe it to be a true statement.

Remember Matthew 24:27 For as lightning that comes from the east is visible even in the west, so will be the coming of the Son of Man.

And Job 36:32 He fills his hands with lightning and commands it to strike its mark.

FAIR USE FOR EDUCATIONAL OR DISCUSSION PURPOSES
http://conservativebyte.com/2011/04/lightning-striking-at-white-house-on-easter-night/

3) Right after we celebrated the recognized holiday of Jesus resurrection, Obama releases his OWN birth certificate.  It is like he was waiting until after Easter to do this.   Exactly 1978 years after our Lord Jesus Christ arose, he waits until after Easter and it is like he is saying that IT IS HIS TIME.

4) By reviewing the post of Lewis Bracket and how the part of the hospital listed on Obama’s birth certificate, the name did not come into existence until 1978, I verified the information on Wikipedia and he is correct.   1978, there’s that number again.

5) The week RIGHT after Easter there is a wedding of Prince William and Kate on Hitler’s anniversary, the same week Obama gives out his birth certificate.   Which I believe it is a fake.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Se5zvGF6u9g
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6zsQ-v7kD5Q&NR=1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ls8wMf-pMhY&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5v2HhZ-L-MU&feature=related

Notice how Dr. David Owuor had a mighty vision on 11/1/2006 of the blessed eternal wedding rings that Jesus will marry the Bride with and Prince William will not wear a wedding ring.   http://www.repentandpreparetheway.org/rapture%20of%20the%20church.php

Also notice my vision that the Lord sent us, the watchers, a beautiful white wedding bouquet in the sky (looks EXACTLY like Maria Von Trapp’s bouquet in the movie The Sound of Music…notice she gets married RIGHT BEFORE THE RISE OF HITLER and Maria was a Godly woman).

MY DREAMS:
http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/march2011/nicole331-2.htm

I had two dreams the night of 3/29/2011…possibly wee hours of the morning PST 3/30/2011.

Dream 1:   I dreamed that I was standing outside with a large group of watchers from all the various internet rapture websites.   Now this was not a group of Christian websites, ONLY the serious rapture websites.   I am not even talking about the Christian websites that have a rapture area on their index of topics.  I am talking about websites that have the word RAPTURE in them or their MAIN BOARD being the rapture.     The group was quite large that was standing with me and I could see that they were from all over the world.   I saw every race, color, ethnicity, man and woman, various ages, different walks of people like living in the country, city, etc.    I saw the Lord showing me in this dream that He considers all the websites who are watching for the rapture to be one group of watchers.   However, He showed me that there will be a great separation on the day of the Rapture even in this group.   I was perplexed about it how someone on a watcher forum could possibly be left behind, but here is what the Lord showed me, that people dropping in on forums to make comments may just want to be in on the hype….or those that have been watching may not have true faith.

In this dream when I was with everyone outside, I saw a weird cloud in the sky.   At first it seemed very trivial.   But I heard a small voice telling me to say something and I had to be quiet to hear.   I pointed up in the sky, and I said doesn’t that cloud look weird?   The cloud seemed to be morphing into some kind of object.   The serious Philadelphians started seeing this cloud morph into some sort of object and they all started pointing.   I could see that the serious watchers wanted to be very careful one way or the other before they commented.   They seemed to tread lightly as if going through a field of land mines.   Whether or not they thought it silly to be watching a cloud, they did not say but kept their eyes on it for a while wanting it so bad to be a sign, something wonderful from the Lord.    The other half of the group started making comments one by one.   I heard comments such as It’s JUST A CLOUD and YOU READ TOO MUCH INTO THINGS and I DON’T SEE HOW THIS CLOUD RELATES TO ANYTHING and BEING A SIGN SEEKER IS NOT BEING A WATCHER.   The Philadelphians did not pay any attention to the comments at all and kept their eyes on the cloud JUST IN CASE.   And guess what?   It started morphing into a Bridal bouquet and it was pure white and the bouquet came down from the sky to the faithful watchers.   The other part of the group were left behind.

Dream 2:  I dreamed that after the Rapture there was a large group in Heaven waiting for the wedding to the Lord Jesus.   All of a sudden there was this experience (which I think only symbolic) in which the BEST characteristics in each of us sort of “came off” of us…..characteristics in us that Jesus had worked so hard for during our life on earth.   And when the “parts” of us came off, they all started floating and then they all came together and formed a woman.   Now it was not a real woman, it was like a hologram and it was the Bride.   She was the MOST BEAUTIFUL woman I had ever, ever, ever seen.   She had a smiling face and she had on pure white.   She was so very happy!

WATCH!   REPENT!

It is almost finished!
PICTURE: FAIR USE FOR EDUCATIONAL OR DISCUSSION PURPOSES

6) Shortly after Easter we find an article that in Egypt there is an uncovery of antiquities of an approximately 42 foot statue of a Pharoah.   Remember when Obama went to Egypt and saw a picture or something of King Tut and he said, wow he looks like me?

Remember Revelation 13:15 He was given power to give breath to the image of the first beast, so that it could speak and cause all who refused to worship the image to be killed.

FAIR USE FOR EDUCATION OR DISCUSSION PURPOSES
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110426/ap_on_re_mi_ea/ml_egypt_antiquities

7) We see in the study of the Heavens that the antichrist is rising between December 21, 2010 and December 10, 2011.   What a strategic time to give out his birth certificate.
http://christian2018.files.wordpress.com/2010/05/signs_2010v10.pdf

GUYS THEY ARE SAYING IT IS TIME!

NOTICE HOW DR. DAVID OWOUR IN THE SAME WEEK AS ALL THIS IS HAPPENING SAYING THE RAPTURE IS IMMINENT AND HAS A VISION!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
http://gatewaytoheaven.ning.com/video/vision-of-imminent-rapture?xg_source=msg_mes_network

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http://www.miamiherald.com/2011/04/29/2193248/birth-certificate-flap-not-the.html

The readers’ forum

Birth-certificate flap not the real issue

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Releasing President Obama’s birth certificate has an unseen toll. Perhaps the most enduring effect of this racist controversy will be the sense of disconnection and powerlessness that this never-ending campaign will have on many of us.

Republicans have pushed through more legislation to erode our civil rights, seeking to weaken voting laws; enacting laws to allow racial profiling and race discrimination. The job situation has not improved measurably; women’s rights (especially pertaining to abortion) are being challenged again; two wars going on — and the Republicans waste our resources on an issue that was dead a long time ago and clearly racially motivated.

What’s more, they will now look for other ways to continue this. These days, I’m not embarrassed by being an American; I’m embarrassed that I have to share America with these people.

Marcelo Salup, Coral Gables

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Don’t you just love people who ask you to show proof of who you are? Case in point: The president’s birth certificate.

Ninety percent of the time those questions come from people who are truly trying to hide things; people who say that they want less government intrusion, then try to take away women’s rights. They tell us that they want us to have to pray, even if that wasn’t on our agenda that day. They hide the fact that they really are going after things like our Medicare. If you think I could vote for people like that, you must be crazy.

Barry Levy, Miami

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To the shame of every decent American, the president of the United States was compelled by the lunatic fringe to release his long-form birth certificate. For the first time in our nation’s history, our president, like a suspect criminal, has been asked to “show me your papers.”

Obvious racism, anyone?

What is next? Certificates of only trifling adultery from family-values politicians? Minor-hypocrisy affidavits from Republicans who pretend to hate deficits while giving tax breaks to oil companies and the super rich? I’m still waiting to see the birth certificate of that pitiful thing clinging to Donald Trump’s head.

Raul E. Hernandez, Miami

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Donald Trump is proud of himself — and well he should be — for instigating another meaningless media diversion from any pertinent foreign or domestic issues. Now that the president has produced this golden document, will the birthers please go away?

As for Trump, he was surprisingly as proud as a peacock, looking like Geraldo Rivera when he opened Al Capone’s safe.

Trump is in the lead for the GOP ticket for 2012. But he is nothing more than an overpaid circus barker. With serious problems to address, is this all the Republicans have to offer?

Bob Litman, Miami

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Donald Trump is beginning to sound more like Donald Duck. His ranting may be his ruse to gain a lot of publicity, but in the process he has lost the respect of a lot of people.

Anthony Liotti,

Sunny Isles Beach

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Donald Trump alludes to a possible taint in President Obama’s scholastic record because of affirmative action. However, Trump born to a multimillionaire father, was the beneficiary of a sort of “affirmative action” that Obama could never have dreamed of. Yet Obama rose to be president of the United States, a position to which Trump can only aspire.

Herb Wolfson, Bal Harbour

Read more: http://www.miamiherald.com/2011/04/29/2193248/birth-certificate-flap-not-the.html#ixzz1L1wCC14J

The last letter I mentioned was not online so I am copying it. It appeared under a photo of a destroyed business with the Tuscaloosa sign in the floor.

Gods Wrath?

Remember how Pat Robertson a nd other evangelicals blamed liberals, gays and feminists for the 9/11 attacks, saying it was God’s punishment for something or other?

Well, what do the same people say about the tornados in the Southeast– God’s punishment for voting Republican, perhaps?

Garry Boggs (29 Apr 2011) “Obama’s Birthcertificate Is A Scam”

A lot has been said about this. The video presents compelling reasons to doubt the authenticity of this document.

Proving that it is a forgery will go a long way to unmask the man behind and I want to suggest that those people that are in the business of authenticating documents will dedicate time and effort to this and make it public as it is done in this video.

Regardless of the paper itself the information given can be investigated, find other people that were born in the same hospital at that time and the numbers and facts that their documents have, compare the seals used in those documents. Find out the witnesses that appear in the document. Was the hospital name at the time in existence and many other possible questions.

It is much easier to deal with data on a document than to deal with something that is not there as before.

Nando

http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/apr2011/garryb429.htm

Garry Boggs (29 Apr 2011)
“Obama’s Birthcertificate Is A Scam”


I believe you’re on the “need to know” list.

The media must believe all Americans are fools. It’s not only a fake, but a poorly done fake at that! Will it ever end? Here is another reason why we shouldn’t believe anything that comes out of Mr. “O’s” White House . . .

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2eOfYwYyS_

I just saw another post that addresses one of my comments and I want to post it here.

I would respectively ask Melisa Costa if she can scan her husbands document and post it so that it can be compared to the one of Obama.

Nando

http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/apr2011/melissac429.htm

Melissa Costa (29 Apr 2011)
Re: Obama Birth Certificate


With regard to the name change of the hospital in 1978.  That is false.  My husband was born there in 1964 and I just read his birth certificate.  It does indeed say Kapiolani Maternity and Gynecological Hospital.  Whoever wrote that article was at least wrong about the date when that name changed….if it ever did.

More interesting info, another video

Nando

http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/apr2011/suzi429.htm

Suzi (29 Apr 2011)
Obviously faked BC? Wow…what next?


The first thing I noticed was there was no ‘raised seal’. When I got copies of my girl’s birth certificates to get their passports, the ‘copy’ had an official seal and the paper is ‘watermarked’. It’s made so that anyone who copies it will not have an ‘official’ copy. *duh*

But then, I saw this vid by Alex Jones. I’m not a huge fan of this man, sometimes I think he is a shill just playing games to make money…along the same lines as Jesse Ventura and Glenn Beck, but even then, they do hit on real truths.

Check out this video. They are saying the birth certificate that was released is so obviously ‘fake’ that his HAS to be on purpose.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3g30VCl_cgk&feature=feedu

Readers after all this is read what is the purpose of this charade, do they think that it is to late for any one to do anything about it.

This may be one of the most obvious signs of how close we are to the Rapture and to their implementation of a full control of the world!

Nando

http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=292457



What is it about twin girls born day after Obama?


Posted: April 27, 2011
9:58 pm Eastern

© 2011 WorldNetDaily

Today, Barack Obama blinked – releasing birth records he has hired lawyers to prevent the public from seeing, even at the expense of allowing U.S. Army Lt. Col. Terrence Lakin to be court-martialed and sent to prison for having dared ask questions the White House until now has resolutely dismissed with ridicule and disdain.

A key problem for Obama is that birth certificates issued to twin girls born one day later at Kapi’olani hospital, the Nordykes, are the Rosetta Stone of deciphering both Obama’s previously released short-form Certification of Live Birth and the newly released purported copy of his long-form birth certificate.

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The problem since the short-form certificate was released during the 2008 presidential campaign has always been this:

  • As WND reported, the long-form birth certificates issued by Kapi’olani to the Nordyke twins have certificate numbers lower than the number given Obama, even though the president purportedly was born at the same hospital a day earlier than the Nordykes.
  • Note, Susan Nordyke, the first twin, was born at 2:12 p.m. Hawaii time Aug. 5, 1961, and was given certificate No. 151 – 61 – 10637, which was filed with the Hawaii registrar Aug. 11, 1961.
  • Gretchen Nordyke, the second twin, was born at 2:17 p.m. Hawaii time Aug. 5, 1961, and was given certificate No. 151 – 61 – 10638, which was also filed with the Hawaii registrar Aug. 11, 1961.
  • Yet, according to the Certification of Live Birth displayed by FactCheck.org during the 2008 presidential campaign – and now according to the long-form birth certificate the White House released today – Barack Obama was given a higher certificate number than the Nordykes.
  • Note, Obama was given certificate No. 151 – 1961 – 10641, even though he was born Aug. 4, 1961, the day before the Nordyke twins, and his birth was registered with the Hawaii Department of Health registrar three days earlier, Aug. 8, 1961.

In 1961, the birth certificate numbers were not assigned by the hospitals.

Instead, the numbers were stamped to the birth record by the Hawaii Department of Health at the main office in Honolulu.

This is the only place birth certificate numbers were assigned.

At the last step of the process, the documents were accepted by the registrar general, with the date of registration inserted in box No. 22 on the lower right hand corner of the long-form birth certificate.

The date the birth document was accepted by the registrar general was the date the birth certificate number was stamped on the birth record.

The birth certificate number was stamped on the form by a rubber stamp that automatically increased by one each time a birth certificate was stamped.

The question, therefore, is how was it possible that the Nordyke twins had their birth certificates accepted by the registrar general in Hawaii three days later than the registrar general accepted Obama’s birth certificate, when the twins’ numbers are lower than Obama’s number?

Here are the Nordyke twins birth certificates:

Eleanor Nordyke has speculated that her twins received an earlier birth certificate number because, although she gave birth later than Ann Dunham, she entered Kapi’olani earlier.

Yet, in 1961, birth certificate numbers were not assigned by the hospital, and the date the mother checked into the medical facility was irrelevant to how birth certificate numbers were assigned.

Moreover, no records for Dunham having been a patient at Kapi’olani in 1961, or of Obama having been born at the hospital on Aug. 4, 1961, have been released by the hospital.

Now that President Obama has personally vouched for the authenticity of the birth certificate the White House released today, he can reasonably be asked to authorize Kapi’olani Medical Center to release any and all medical records the hospital may hold for his mother and Barack Obama Sr., his listed father.

The debate over Obama’s eligibility to be president has truly only just begun, with Obama’s status having changed overnight from a bemused observer to a full-contact participant.

Two weeks before the publication of my book “Where’s the Birth Certificate?” the effort to document Obama’s past has begun in earnest.

Fundamentally, the world changed for Barack Obama this morning, not just in increasing pressure for the release of the many hidden documents about his past, but in the inescapable reality that the White House must defend this newly released birth certificate as authentic.

Before today, Obama may have attempted to explain away problems with the short-form Certification of Live Birth as the work of his supporters.

Before today, the president largely remained above the fray. Now, he has fully engaged in the presentation and defense of his birth records and his status as a “natural born citizen” under Article 2, Section 1 of the Constitution.

Obama’s presidency now depends upon the White House being able to support the veracity of all the information contained in the birth document released yesterday morning.

In the final analysis, proof that the document is an authentic Obama birth record will await forensic examination.


Jerome R. Corsi, a Harvard Ph.D., has authored many books, including No. 1 N.Y. Times best-sellers “The Obama Nation” and “Unfit for Command.” Along with serving as WND’s senior staff reporter, Corsi is a senior managing director at Gilford Securities.

Gilford Securities, founded in 1979, is a full-service boutique investment firm headquartered in NYC providing financial services to institutional and retail clients, from investment banking and equity research to retirement planning and wealth management. The views, opinions, positions or strategies of the author are his alone, and do not necessarily reflect those of Gilford Securities. Gilford Securities makes no representations as to accuracy, completeness, currentness, suitability or validity of any information herein and will not be liable for any errors, omissions, or delays in this information or any losses, injuries, or damages arising from its display or use.

Read more: What is it about twin girls born day after Obama? http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=292457#ixzz1KxG3CTex

This article is also agreeing with you.
Nando
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Curt (30 Apr 2011)
“To: All Doves Re: BHO birth Certificate”

Please, please people – we really need to move past this issue. I have absolutely no doubt that Obama and his cohorts are having a hearty laugh at our expense. In fact, I wouldn’t be surprised if the Obama camp orchestrated this whole “birther” thing from the beginning in order to discredit his opponents.

A couple of things that need to be corrected:

– There is no raised seal or registrar’s signature. Answer – the “long form” is not an official document. The form that proves citizenship (and is required if you want to get a passport) is the so-called “short form”.

– Father is “African”. Some have said that this should be “Negro” or “Colored”. Answer – Obama’s father was African – he was born in Kenya. The terms “Negro” or “Colored” would refer to African-Americans, not African-Africans. In any case, this is a moot issue. Since this is not an official form, the hospital could put pretty much anything they wanted in this box.

– The name of the hospital was changed in 1978, and the BC has the wrong name. Answer – as others have already pointed out, this is false. The hospital’s official name was “Kapiolani Maternity and Gynecological Hospital” in 1961.

– The phrase “certificate of live birth” is unexpected. Answer – this is indeed what a birth certificate from Hawaii in the early 60s would say. See here (http://trueconservative101.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/hawaii-birth-certificate-1963.jpg) for an example from 1963. It is pretty much identical to Obama’s. Note that it, too, doesn’t have a raised seal.

– There are “layers” in the computer file. Answer – this is a result of the scanning process, specifically the Optical Character Recognition. During scanning, the computer software will sort the various elements into different layers. Text goes into one layer, signatures go into another, boxes and borders into yet another, etc. This is done to make it easier for computer programs to find the actual text without having to wade through the parts of the document that are not text. I happen to work in the field of digital imaging, and I see this very same phenomenon every day. The people who created the Youtube videos that “prove” the BC is a fake because it has layers have absolutely no idea what they are talking about.

– Obama waited two years to release his birth certificate. Answer – the Obama camp (along with all the other presidential candidates) submitted the official “short form” certificate to the Federal Election Commission way back in 2008. The “long form” is not an official document, and would be ignored by the FEC.

– Obama spent millions trying to hide his birth certificate. Answer – no he didn’t. I don’t know where this rumor started, but it isn’t factual. The State of Hawaii (along with nearly all other states) will not allow birth certificates to be released to just anyone. Usually, only the actual persons named on the certificate (parents and child) are allowed to see the certificate. There was no need to spend any money to hide the document. The only money that was actually spent was on lawyers hired to defend Obama against people demanding to see his BC. In other words, the only money he spent was involuntary – he had no choice but to represent himself in these trials – anything else would be regarded as contempt of court. And even then, the trials were all dismissed very early on, so the actual amount of cash spent was minimal.

– A “natural born citizen” requires both parents to be citizens. Answer – this is false. The only constitutional requirement is that the candidate be born in the USA. Several past US presidents have had only one parent as a citizen, or none. Andrew Jackson, for example, was born to Irish immigrant parents.

There are so many other good reasons to oppose the Obama administration. The birth certificate is a distraction, one that the Democrats and Obama are quite happy to promulgate. If we continue to raise non-issues like these, we will be playing directly into their hands.

This other one is more to the point.
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Taylor (30 Apr 2011)
“O Birth Certificate”

Obama’s new long form document was produced entirely from an electronic data record and done up as a printout on an informational receipt form that summarized the information in the State database. The State Registrar affirms: “I certify this is a true copy or abstract of TXE record on file in the Hawaii State Department of Health”. This informs all that this document is based only on electronic sources of questionable origin. When and from where did this information get put into a database record on Obama’s birth? Since the Registrar has certified that only a digital record was used to create the form printout given to the President, this should imply that no original birth record could be located in the State Archives and it also shows that actually no hard copy record is known to exist in those archives.

It is a waste of energy to prove the latest birth document from Obama is a fake. The Hawaii State Registrar has already certified it came only from electronic sources; and, since no vital records are destroyed, it can be assumed that this latest information on Obama’s birth didn’t even come from a written document that no longer exists, which had been scanned into the database before getting lost. With only an electronic record to support the information presented, this new long form is worthless in proving Obama’s birth. This makes it pointless to analyze it for errors to prove it a fake, because it has no bearing on the Constitutional debate of Obama’s qualifications to serve in his office.

This worthless document was put out by the President to divide and distract America. Everyone has missed the point that this document could never prove or disprove Obama’s birth in Hawaii. It is an unofficial summarization of all data on Obama’s birth located in the State’s TXE record on Obama. It is even lacking the State Seal, which would signify it as an official copy. However, no original birth record exists on Obama in the Hawaii State Archives and no official copy of this record can be made. Otherwise, the Registrar would have surely delivered to Obama an official copy of his original birth records.

To certify that only an electronic record was used to produce the April 25, 2011, long form shows how truly nothing exists in the Hawaii State Archives on Obama’s birth. The Registrar found nothing of substance and he essentially certified delivering nothing of worth to the President. So, why are so many fighting so hard over a trivial document which means nothing?

April 29, 2011 Planet X, Nibiru or Elenin and its planetary orbit this year

Well a lot of things have been said about the planet, comet or whatever it is. It looks as if it comes this close to the earth its mass will have to interact with the planet and the effects to the tectonic plates of the earth may be increasing the probability of earthquake, volcanoes and hurricanes increasing in size and magnitude. The book of Revelations is full of places where the heavens are shaken and earthquakes abound in great number and size. Is Jesus calling to mind the effects of this crossing of a celestial object and its consequences to earth.

Nando

http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/apr2011/dru429.htm

Dru (29 Apr 2011)
Planet Elenin – Nibiru – Whatever You Want To Call It, It’s Coming!


Dear Doves …

According to Mike “Comet Elenin” couldn’t possibly be a comet …so please watch this video and decide for yourself:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SfOfBrNUOGA&feature=related

ysic,
Dru

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April 29, 2011 at 5:19 pm

April 27, 2011 A vision warning of war for May 21?

I do not know how to address this mans revelation. The times we are living on are prophetic to say the least, yesterday hundreds of tornadoes ripped through many states causing many deaths and severe destruction through a vast area of five states. This is already judgment on the USA.

Mr. Matthew Park claims to have been given a vision by his angel and you can read his description below.

I am posting it here with no pre-judgment of him or the message. If it is of the Lord Jesus next month will be around the corner and it can be verified or not. Read with discernment.

Mr David Wilkerson died in a car accident yesterday.

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April 27, 2011

Rev. David Wilkerson killed in Texas car crash

Pastor founded Times Square Church in New York City, made it his mission to bring religion to troubled area

  • This undated photo from World Challenge Inc. shows founder Rev. David Wilkerson, who died in a car accident on April 27. 2011.This undated photo from World Challenge Inc. shows founder Rev. David Wilkerson, who died in a car accident on April 27. 2011.  (World Challenge Inc.)

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(AP)TYLER, Texas – Rev. David Wilkerson, founding pastor of Times Square Church in New York City and author of the best-selling book, “The Cross and the Switchblade,” has died. He was 79.

Texas Department of Public Safety spokeswoman Tela Mange says Wilkerson died Wednesday in a car accident in East Texas. Mange says Wilkerson’s car smashed head-on into a tractor-trailer rig after veering into another lane.

Wilkerson’s World Challenge Inc. ministries confirmed on its website that he “went to be with Jesus.”

Wilkerson founded the non-denominational Protestant church in 1987 in an area of Manhattan that was then riddled with X-rated movie houses, strip clubs, prostitution and drugs.

Wilkerson also founded Teen Challenge, which uses a biblically-based recovery program for drug addicts.

His wife, Gwendolyn, was injured in the car accident.

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And today Matthew Park sends us this post. This is definitively a very strange and unusual posting. It would help if we knew more who Matthew is and why we should taking seriously.

Nando

http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/apr2011/ola428.htm

Ola Ilori (28 Apr 2011)
Re:Matthew Park


Hi Mark,
Your vision confirms to me that 2 to 3 hours, after the Rapture, on the 20th of May 2011, Nuclear missiles are going to be launched from somewhere around the World!
Gooner’s dream, which lines up perfectly with my studies, puts the Rapture within a 1 hour window between 0630 AM and 0730 AM, Los Angeles Time.
That would be 0230 PM to 0330 PM, London Time.  [Where I live]
And 0430 PM to 0530 PM, Jerusalem Time.
On the 20th of May 2011 the Sun will set in Jerusalem at 0732 PM
This means 2 to 3 hours, after the Rapture, World War 3 could break out!
“For when they say, “Peace and safety!” then sudden destruction comes upon them, as labour pains upon a pregnant woman.
And they shall not escape.
“But you, brethren, are not in darkness [that is overwhelmed by sleep inducing false doctrine], so that this Day should overtake you as a thief. “
“You are all sons of light [that is, sons of mentally responsive and perceptive true doctrine.]…Therefore let us not sleep, as others do…” (1Thess.5:3-6)
Gooner is not a prophet, he’s a teenager blessed with a dream, I believe is from the Lord.
Here’s his dream once again, including my responses.

Posted on the internet in November 2010.

I had a dream of the rapture when I was a freshman-sophomore in high school, during the summer break. I’m now a senior and I still remember it to this day.

when I had this dream I was starting to get interested in bible prophecy, and I was immature in the rapture and related things, open to many kinds of doctrines and teachings about the end of times and the last days though I was leaning towards to the pre trib. (now i know its pre trib).

the dream started as me getting ready for school. it was early in the morning and I remember me washing my face at the sink that where I always do in real life.

I remember going to go dry my face with the white towel that I always use in real life like I always do.
I remember in the dream that every single part of the bathroom that I had seen was extremely accurate to what is there in real life. 
I remember the wood floor I remember where things are placed and how the bathtub is shaped EVERYTHING in my dream its the same in real life. now there was a window across from where I dry my face (as also in real life and it has binds and curtain just like my dream) and seeing out the window u can see a huge view of my city, the freeway and the hills.
I’m blown away how similar it looked to now considering I live in a semi suburban and rural area with a bunch of trees and bunch of stuff outside yet so accurate. then the moment I put the towel back down, while looking at the window, I looked at the freeway and suddenly a huge and super loud SHOUT was yelled across the whole place. soooo loud yet I remember my ears can handle it like it wouldnt go deaf or something. this part im not sure but it sounded like “GET UP HERE” in a really loud yell.
in my dream, it seemed this really woke me up cuz its really early in the morning and I’m always sleepy but when I heard this shout in my dream I became wide awake and I knew this was the rapture!
The same instant the shout was made, I saw on the freeway many car crashing and many sounds of cars colliding into each other. then I felt joy and knew it was finally it, and then in the dream i remember myself running to the room where the bathroom was connected, i remember i didnt feel no fear but joy.
Again the room looks EXACTLY 110% same as in real life and as of today. the TV, the wood floor, the coffee table, the couch right behind EVERYTHING to the very exact detail was the same in my dream. 

So then I ran to the coffee table next to it, fell on my knees and bowed and I remember saying “IM READY!” or something. but all the while after the shout and while I was running and then onto my knees, I remember a looooooooong trumpet sound, it was a sustained note, didnt sound like the trumpet I hear in school band but some sort of those trumpet I hear in those movies about ancient times or something… that too was super loud and super vivid. but during this, I didnt see my body.

During all this, the morning light was bright enough (6:30am is when I start getting ready for school) so that I didnt need to use the bathroom light.

In regular dreams, things should be distorted a little bit, I barely even remember any dream except this one.

so I remember during this part, the whole bathroom and the bedroom that is connected to it, the morning light stayed the same, it was as if in real life. the darkness and lightness of the room was completely accurate to what it looks like in real life when I get ready for school.

So I remember when I fell on my knees and the trumpet was still blowing a sustained note, couple seconds later I was immediately taken to what looked like clouds, like the earth’s atmosphere but I didn’t see a sky.

I saw myself bowing on my knees in complete worship and honor to this super infinitely bright light, so bright think of the sun but heck of a lot brighter but yet my eyes didnt sting or burn, it was so bright but the color was whiter than any kind of snow on earth yet it was a colorless white but intense, but I felt overwhelmed, on my knees bowing to this light, I’m thinking this is Jesus and the bema seat? (when I had this dream, I didnt know about the bema seat of judgement btw) then I remember some kind of things going in front of me, from this light but I dont remember what it was, looks like words? I dont know, but then after that (this light wasnt too long) 
I remember briefly passing through these gates, gates of white yet so clear and yellow. and I remember passing into heaven in my dream and immediately I felt overwhelming infinite joy and peace yet I was dancing like a little kid with 0 stress, I felt alive again, so overwhelming, NOTHING ON EARTH TO COMPARE, IT WAS SO GOOD, SO AMAZING. 

I cannot describe this feeling of joy and fullness with words. while this, I remember lush green pastures, wide huge fields, super bright sky yet it was golden in color but clear, no trace of shadow, I DO NOT REMEMBER any kind of black color or shadow or some sort, the grass was brighter than the lightest kind of green u can find on earth, yet the huge flowerbed that covered it all seemed to not get hurt when I step on it yet so unimaginable. I also remember seeing some tree off in a distance with a stream flowing between me and this green pasture and the tree, I don’t think it was the tree of life though. and I remember being reunited with some person up there in my dream. but then it was a time of oh my goodness….

then I was skipping like some kid in happiness, yeah I just can’t describe this, but before more happened, I abruptly woke up without warning, then it was August before school starts and after my church summer retreat (which was when I was have a severe mental attack of me going to hell and that I’m not a christian and that I should bow to satan that evil one which I was struggling with cuz my LORD was JESUS) and I remember my mom cooking breakfast…. lol

 
and yes there were people around me as well in my dream.

In the part when I was on earth, its funny cuz everything is similar, no joke. to this day, it looks exactly as how my dream looked.

right now, its end of November or getting there and STANDARD TIME came in for Los Angeles. during Sept. and Oct. before we fell back 1 hour, the morning time where i get ready for school at 6:30 am, it was too dark to see anything without using the bathroom light but now after standard time, its bright enough and whats more, the tone or intensity of the morning light is like matching what i remember in the dream.

and since this is my senior year in high school, I’ll be off to college next year [2011].

That would mean I would no longer get ready for school in my bathroom in my house, I’ll be in the dorms. 
I also remember in my dream, when I was on my knees on the wood floor of the bedroom, that i faintly remember seeing doors on the wall next to me, I was like “huh?” cuz it was upstairs and it wouldn’t make sense for that. 

But now, 2 years after the dream, we got a balcony with a door, (for those wondering which bedroom, its my mom’s bedroom, yeah I get ready in her bathroom haha)

so this is crazy and considering all the things pointing to this Year [2010] or around, this is really making pay a whole lot more attention.

Now as of this date of posting, everything is set for my dream to take place, now i must watch for the shout. nobody can know for sure exactly when the rapture would take place but this is totally the year it seems.

maranatha.


15th December 2010.
Ola posted:

Gooner’s suppose to be graduating in June 2011.

And since the rapture is suppose to occur, according to his dream, before then, we have a window of at most 6 months!


10th January 2011.
Ola posted:
Gooner, could you please tell use when you’ll be returning for the next Semester?I’m watching two Dates for the Rapture:

These are the 29th of January 2011 [24th of Kislev] and

the 20th of May 2011 [16th of Nisan which is the correct Date of the Feast of Firstfruits for this Year]

What I want to know is that will you still be in School in Spring?, Or is this coming Friday, the 14th of January 2011, the end of High School?

Gooner’s reply:
no. its only 1st semester. the 2nd semester ends in June. yeah im staying, school is going to start a new semester next week.

http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/apr2011/matthewp427.htm

Matthew Park (27 Apr 2011)
I wish to share the following


Dear brother John,

I am not saying this might happen.  I am not saying I dreamt something and
it may mean something or something else.

I am saying this will happen on the 21th.  Call it prophesying or making
prediction but I want to make it clear that I am speaking with authority and
with certainty.  This was no dream.  I was given a vision by my angel last
night.

I am doing this so that people will understand that I speak the truth and I
do this to show our Father’s glory.

I share exactly what I heard and saw.  Nothing more.  Nothing less.

The vision began by by my angel speaking to me.  He said, “As the 20th
turns
(meaning 20th day of the month) and I saw the date 20th, & 21st on the next
page.

I saw a missile slowly emerge out of water then began picking up speed.  It
was a big one because I saw how it behaved.  It took some time for the
missile to pick up speed so it couldn’t be a small missile.

Then I saw a big war ship, possibly a carrier.  After it was struck, it
slowly began to turn to its side.  Have you ever seen a gold fish die?
Before its belly turns up, it turns to its side.  That’s what this huge
ship was doing.  Before I could finish watching this, my angel showed me
other events.  The sky had turned red.  Many other events were taking place
but since there were so many events taking place, my eyes could no longer
follow them.

This vision was given by the same angel who had whispered the date of May
21th few weeks ago.

The problem with my visions is that they are all very short.  I do not know
why this is so.  I cannot press my angels for more clarity or more
definition. Nor can I will a vision.  The longest vision I had was the word
“Judgment” repeatedly written in almost transparent gold.  Even this
vision
lasted no more than few seconds.

I have a vision of eagle.  My eyes are fast and I can catch things very
quickly and accurately.  Even so, these visions are so fast that it’s very
painful for me to extract details out of my visions.

So there you have it.

Brother John,

If my vision does not come to pass, I will never bother you again.  However,
if it is fulfilled as I have stated, will you continue to share what I have
to say to everyone?  I have a very important message to announce.  The Holy
Spirit told me that I am a trumpeter.  I feel obligated to continue sounding
the alarm.

I have to tell people about what Rev. David Wilkerson prophesied many years
ago and I need to further clarify it as the time is upon us now.  It
concerns Revelation 12.  What I say will anger many people.  Nevertheless,
if God commands you to do something, what can you do?  I humbly seek your
understanding and assistance as His servant.

Kyrie eleison,

Matthew Park

Written by twelvebooks

April 28, 2011 at 11:38 pm

Lewis Brackett (28 April 2011) “Obama birth certificate a fake”

Lewis Brackett (28 April 2011)
Obama birth certificate a fake


BREAKING: White House releases Obama’s birth certificate

Read this someplace else and it makes me wonder…, Kapiolani Maternity & Gynecological Hospital’s name didn’t come into existence until 1978. Before that time the hospital was called Kauikeolani Children’s Hospital. On Obama’s certificate it says he was born at Kapiolani Maternity & Gynecological Hospital. http://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/defa…-long-form.pdfThe name didn’t change to Kapiolani Maternity & Gynecological Hospital until Kauikeolani Children’s Hospital merged with Kapi‘olani Maternity Home in 1978. So how could his official long form birth certificate that was generated in 1961 have the name of the hospital that wasn’t created until 1978?”

http://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/defa…-long-form.pdf

Wouldn’t this be a huge discrepancy?

__________________
 
Lewis Brackett

http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/apr2011/lewisb428.htm

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April 28, 2011 at 6:26 pm