Aug 4, 2011 Is Elenin seen in Revelation and where?
The influence of the celestial body called Elenin is becoming more and more aparent as the time approaches for its orbit to start affecting our planet.
In the Christian forum fivedoves.com people have posted comments and articles that talk about the two sides of this argument, the first side is that this will be an insignificant event barely noticed by those that are looking to it through amateur telescopes or binoculars, the other position is that it will bring catastrophic events upon the earth.
The first position is best explained by the following article posted today in fivedoves.com and it lists its sources.
Lewis Brackett (4 Aug 2011)
“Elenin is not the end of the world“
Lots of hype on the net about this one 🙂
but I looked it up in Astronomy magazine chatroom.. they sent me to:
seems that in August Elenin will only be visible from the southern hemisphere.
Its closest approach is about a month later…….It will have a brightness of about 5.9 magnitude, which will be a dim star to the unaided eye. the comet will have a diameter of 6 point 3 minutes of arc…… easily visible with a pair of binoculars, a quite nice featureless blob 🙂 in a small telescope……..
6 minutes of arc is 1/10th of a degree….. hardly causing chaos in the streets 🙂
not like the 70AD and 1910
comet which was a flaming sword across the sky……….
The other position is explained in this blog thoroughly in days past and in the following article by Erick. I think it is very good.
Erick (4 Aug 2011)
“ELENIN on Swiss Currency”
Dear Doves,I know that there is so much out there regarding ELENIN but I have just felt for several days that this information was too good to not share. I apologize if this has already been shared, but I have not seen it on 5 Doves yet if it has already been.There are some who would have us to believe that ELENIN is a non-issue. Why all the fuss? However, we must ask ourselves first what God is saying to the world and the church through this wonder. Second, what level of importance do the Elitists give to ELENIN? NASA is revealing very little if anything. But, NASA is part of the problem, not part of the solution.Do you remember in the recent past when different stages of the 911 events were encoded on US currency? Who put that there? The answer: the Elitists who were communicating amongst themselves regarding their plans that they fulfilled on 911.Now, once again, the Elitists have been communicating amongst themselves right out in the open using a leading global currency: Swiss currency . Arguably, Swiss currency is the elite currency of the world. Switzerland is where the world’s most powerful and wealthiest countries and citizens bank both openly or in secret. Putting a message on Swiss currency would be the ultimate place to hide a warning to the Elite, reaching them wherever they are all over the world.Go here to see Swiss currency photos with explanations of the ELENIN Warning date of 9/26/2011:(Fair use for education and discussion purposes only)Just to refresh our minds, who are the Elite? They are the wicked followers of Satan hiding in the shadows as leaders of various global businesses, media, governments, and key positions of global power acting with one mind and having only one goal: a New World Order out of Chaos that enslaves the world, murders 2/3’s of the earth’s population, and plots the murder of all Jews and Christians.So ask yourself, if ELENIN really is just a non-event, why are the Elitists going to such length to hide the information from the common person? Why are they busy building underground bunkers all over the world to hide in? Why is NASA involved in either a disinformation campaign, or a silence campaign? Why is the US Government massively moving military equipment, repositioning troops at home, and on and on? Conspiracy? If the shoe fitsâ€¦.then yes, conspiracy. Information is power as the saying goes. And the Elitists will withhold all information that is of any consequence because it will give away their advantage to carry out their Luciferian goals undetected while the rest of us are caught up in the cares of this world (jobs, bills, sports, entertainment, food, luxuries,etc), too busy to notice anything is amiss.Instead, let us Finish Well as Bob Glenn posted here 8/3/2011(I love this, Bob. Thanks): www.fivedoves.com/letters/aug2011/bobg83.htmThis September â€“ November promises to be prophetically earth changing. We all feel it, and so do they. They, the Elitists, are preparing. Preparing to impose the NWO out of the chaos that is coming.We as Watchmen should be preparing too, if we are not. But I know that we are. Because I truly believe (imho) that THIS is THE TIME, (sometime beginning in Sept-Nov, 2011) of the beginning of the 7 years of the Tribulation. The time when our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ will appear suddenly for His precious Bride and take us home to be forever with Him.The signs are all there. The nations are raging for imposed peace (Israel / Palistinians) and safety (giving away freedoms because of global terrorism), global apostasy, global financial meltdown to usher in the Mark, famines, earthquakes, the seas raging, nations perplexed (no one knows what to do to stop the world heading toward Armageddon at breakneck speed) nation rising against nation, and signs in the heavens (sun, moon, constellations, comets, brown dwarf stars, etc), knowledge increasing due to computers (knowledge doubling every 2 years now approximately), people going from here to there ( modern transportation covering large distances rapidly).All the above signs have been increasing in frequency and intensity. However, THEY WILL ALL BE HAPPENING SIMULTANEOUSLY WITH AN INTENSITY THAT (to me) APPEARS TO BE OF IMPENDING DIVINE JUDGEMENT unlike any other time or event we have yet experienced (IMHO), and all occurring during key major feast days in SEPT-NOV.Consider this from Steve Edel posted on 5 Dove 8/3/11: (Thank you Steve) http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/aug2011/stevene83.htmThe following is a post from LISALEENIE on the RITA website: (thanks Lisaleenie)1. If the Second Coming of Christ will take place on Yom Kippur in 2018 (September 19, 2018) and count back 2550 days (which includes the 1,260 days to the middle of the tribulation and the last 1,290 days that is mentioned in Daniel 12:11 after the Abomination of Desolation), you come up with the date of September 26th, 2011!! Not only is that date within the 63rd anniversary of Israel becoming a nation, but it is the first day of the projected 3 days of darkness that Elenin is expected to cause!!Now just picture this: First the rapture, then the 3 days of darkness immediately afterwards, then meteors falling on earth as the tribulation begins. Then Rosh Hashana begins 3 days later. Wouldn’t that be something?I read on another site, but could not relocate it, ELE = Elevin NIN= Nine. Or to put it another way: 11-9Two meanings, the 1st I have seen here on 5 Doves and elsewhere: 911, or, Sept 9 2011: the date ELENIN is closest to our Sun.The second, 11-9 = Nov 9th, 2011 the day the Earth 1st encounters the debris field of ELENIN.We have watched for so long. We have fought the good fight. We have run the race. We will continue to do so until we are with our eternal reward: Jesus!I can’t wait to see Him face to face, fall at His feet, and worship Him. And I can’t wait to meet you all too!Let’s hope our departure is so very soon this year. Every piece of the puzzle is together this SEPT-NOV 2011. Can there be any clearer sign of the season? We shall soon see in the few days ahead.All is in God’s Hands. Nothing is out of His control. PTL! We are forever safe in Him.Watching Expectantly,Erick.___________________In the past years in my studies and readings of the book of Revelation I never gave much thought to the statements referring to earthquakes, the sun or the moon and the stars, but now I am taking a look back again to see if Elenin or Nibiru are the ones that will be causing these prophecies to be fulfilled.In the book of Revelation the first instance that the name earthquake is mentioned is in the fallowing chapter and verses.
12 I watched as he opened the sixth seal. There was a great earthquake. The sun turned black like sackcloth made of goat hair, the whole moon turned blood red, 13 and the stars in the sky fell to earth, as figs drop from a fig tree when shaken by a strong wind. 14 The heavens receded like a scroll being rolled up, and every mountain and island was removed from its place.
15 Then the kings of the earth, the princes, the generals, the rich, the mighty, and everyone else, both slave and free, hid in caves and among the rocks of the mountains. 16 They called to the mountains and the rocks, “Fall on us and hide us from the face of him who sits on the throne and from the wrath of the Lamb! 17 For the great day of their wrath has come, and who can withstand it?”
As you can see before the sixth seal is opened the first five seals have to be opened. These are the four horses of the Apocalypse and the killing these bring is for a fourth of humanity. So if the warning on the Swiss money refers to 9/26/11 these two months till then must see a lot of bad things happening here on earth. See the other seals below.
1 I watched as the Lamb opened the first of the seven seals. Then I heard one of the four living creatures say in a voice like thunder, “Come!” 2 I looked, and there before me was a white horse! Its rider held a bow, and he was given a crown, and he rode out as a conqueror bent on conquest.
3 When the Lamb opened the second seal, I heard the second living creature say, “Come!” 4 Then another horse came out, a fiery red one. Its rider was given power to take peace from the earth and to make people kill each other. To him was given a large sword.
5 When the Lamb opened the third seal, I heard the third living creature say, “Come!” I looked, and there before me was a black horse! Its rider was holding a pair of scales in his hand. 6 Then I heard what sounded like a voice among the four living creatures, saying, “Two pounds of wheat for a day’s wages, and six pounds of barley for a day’s wages, and do not damage the oil and the wine!”
7 When the Lamb opened the fourth seal, I heard the voice of the fourth living creature say, “Come!” 8 I looked, and there before me was a pale horse! Its rider was named Death, and Hades was following close behind him. They were given power over a fourth of the earth to kill by sword, famine and plague, and by the wild beasts of the earth.
9 When he opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of those who had been slain because of the word of God and the testimony they had maintained. 10 They called out in a loud voice, “How long, Sovereign Lord, holy and true, until you judge the inhabitants of the earth and avenge our blood?” 11 Then each of them was given a white robe, and they were told to wait a little longer, until the full number of their fellow servants, their brothers and sisters, were killed just as they had been.
After the seventh seal angels pour out judgments that seem to originate from the effects of Elenin. At this point if enough time has taken place the effects of Nibiru a much bigger celestial body may cause the events listed below and continue causing them till the end of the seven years are finished.
The Seventh Seal and the Golden Censer
1 When he opened the seventh seal, there was silence in heaven for about half an hour.
2 And I saw the seven angels who stand before God, and seven trumpets were given to them.
3 Another angel, who had a golden censer, came and stood at the altar. He was given much incense to offer, with the prayers of all God’s people, on the golden altar in front of the throne. 4 The smoke of the incense, together with the prayers of God’s people, went up before God from the angel’s hand. 5 Then the angel took the censer, filled it with fire from the altar, and hurled it on the earth; and there came peals of thunder, rumblings, flashes of lightning and an earthquake.
6 Then the seven angels who had the seven trumpets prepared to sound them.
7 The first angel sounded his trumpet, and there came hail and fire mixed with blood, and it was hurled down on the earth. A third of the earth was burned up, a third of the trees were burned up, and all the green grass was burned up.
8 The second angel sounded his trumpet, and something like a huge mountain, all ablaze, was thrown into the sea. A third of the sea turned into blood, 9 a third of the living creatures in the sea died, and a third of the ships were destroyed.
10 The third angel sounded his trumpet, and a great star, blazing like a torch, fell from the sky on a third of the rivers and on the springs of water— 11 the name of the star is Wormwood. A third of the waters turned bitter, and many people died from the waters that had become bitter.
12 The fourth angel sounded his trumpet, and a third of the sun was struck, a third of the moon, and a third of the stars, so that a third of them turned dark. A third of the day was without light, and also a third of the night.
13 As I watched, I heard an eagle that was flying in midair call out in a loud voice: “Woe! Woe! Woe to the inhabitants of the earth, because of the trumpet blasts about to be sounded by the other three angels!”
Well the time is at hand and we shall soon see how all this plays out.
This link will take you to a astronomical paper dealing with Elenin and Nibiru. The article is full of pictures, data and graphics that explain in very detailed way what is coming. start scrolling down the pages. It is long.