Twelve Books – Rapture, Antichrist, False Prophet, End Time Signs, Bible Prophecy, Nando

End Times Bible Prophecy News and Articles

Archive for December 2nd, 2011

Harvey Troyer (2 Dec 2011) “Re: Clay Cantrell’ Post November 30, 2011—re Nando and his Observations—Clay I believe that God may have Revealed to me a Major Answer to your Puzzle”

This is another reply to my comments to Caly Cantrll.


Harvey Troyer (2 Dec 2011)
“Re: Clay Cantrell’ Post November 30, 2011—re Nando and his Observations—Clay I believe that God may have Revealed to me a Major Answer to your Puzzle”


December 1, 2011


Dear John Tng and all Faithful Doves:

Subj:  Re: Clay Cantrell’ Post November 30, 2011—re Nando and his Observations—Clay I believe that God may have Revealed to me a Major Answer to your Puzzle

Note: Please read the post with spiritual discernment.  While I believe that this is an excellent possibility for “the real Rapture date”,  we will not know for sure until it actually arrives; but, we certainly do not have long to wait.

Clay, in your response to Nando you say: I’ve been posting on this site for almost 14 years now, thanks to John Tng, and I am as clueless today as to why God selected me to do this work as I was when it started.  I have no accomplished background in numbers.  You also said that the Lord’s own exact words to you were to “Post all you know”.  “That was it.  That was the directive.”

Clay, fourteen years going strictly on faith according to the Lord’s directive puts you in mighty good company.  Please read Galatians Chapters 1 and 2 in the King James Version.  Now notice Galatians 2:1-2(KJV) 1) Then fourteen years after I went up again to Jerusalem with Barnabas, and took Titus with me also.  2) And I went up by revelation, and communicated unto them that gospel which I preach among the Gentiles, but privately to them which were of reputation, lest by any means I should run, or had run, in vain.

Clay, you also said that “I boil down as best I can what I think the Lord is saying about numbers, dreams or visions to as simple a form as I know how to do.”  Then you said “a cursory read of this information will not get the reader very far when it comes to the numbers side, and this material is not for everyone.  …the reader will see that there are really just a very few numbers I look for and post on.  Maybe 20.  The single most important number is 527, Jared’s are when Enoch is ‘taken’.”

Clay, when I read that last line this morning I started seeing something most important and amazing about what the Lord has been showing you with numbers and your vivid dream/visions.  Jared was the father of Enoch and he lived to be 962 old.  But, he was 527 years old when his son Enoch was “Raptured”.  I was certain that this is about revealing a great secret regarding our imminent Rapture of the Bride of Christ.

I believe that the Lord showed me to calculate the numerical value of your most important number “527” as follows:

“527” = (5 + 2 + 7) = 14

Then, since your original vision came on December 5, 1997 I saw that if you add “14” to 1997 you get 2011.

1997 + 14 years = 2011

Clay, you hit a Grand Slam Home Run when you said at the end of your post: “If the numbers material proves too much for a reader, then concentrate on the posts of the supernatural things, the dreams and visions like this one.”


As I read your post (above URL LINK) about Elizabeth Taylor’s death and the Rapture dream that you had a year earlier on 3-23-10, and that now a year later (3-23-11) Elizabeth Taylor dies on this exact date confirming your Rapture dream up to the white rooms of heaven—I realized that this was also a major Rapture clue.  [Also, you had strange dream of 3.17.11 about the woman who looked like and was dressed up like Elizabeth Taylor; but, she was not her.  That was just more confirmation pointing to “3-23-11” as being the Rapture date to focus on.] 

Also, you discovered that you had posted the March 23, 2010 date of your Rapture dream/vision incorrectly on Five Doves as August 23, 2010 (see URL LINK BELOW)That was supposed to happen; because, it was not time quite yet.  This fact also helped me to confirm that the date to focus on is 3-23-11.


Update re Ascensions

early on August 23rd, 2010 I had this remarkable dream or incident –

Sooo….now let’s calculate the numerical value of 3.23.11

(3 + 2 + 3 + 1 + 1) + “10”

Since we calculated the year to be 2011 (see above), I believe that “10” is the Rapture day and “December” is obviously the month, since you started your strange, grand, ongoing 14-year revelation from the Lord trek on December 5th, 1997.

Perhaps our Lord, praise his holy majestic name, prepared me ahead of time to make this discovery.  Consider this, everyone knows that Harvey Troyer is the crazy man that believes that America is End-time Babylon and will be totally destroyed by Nuclear War in the Sudden Destruction which is to happen the same day at the Rapture.  So your dreams do not seem that strange to me.

Clay, your dream(s) way back in the week of December 5, 1997 (I believe you said that you had five more dreams after the first one on 12-5-97 that same week) you saw Los Angeles and many other cities in total nuclear ruin and in ashes (nuclear winter).  That definitely got my attention!  Have you ever read any of my posts, articles or publications on the destruction of America the Babylon?  God showed me way back in 1975 that America is the End-time Babylon; and, where it is written and prophesied in the Bible.

Also, I was given a short Rapture dream/vision on June 14th, 2011. That’s America’s Flag Day.  You can read about my experience when I saw the beautiful pristine white ivory palace in the heavenlies and I saw the Raptured Saints arriving in their glorious white garments.  Read about my dream by clicking on the URL LINK BELOW.


Clay and all, take a look at my post on April 28, 2011 and see why I notice the name “Elizabeth” with very special anticipation of the Rapture.  I expect to see my daughter “Elizabeth” for the first time ever as soon as I arrive in that blessed place.  I couldn’t make this up if I tried.  See how Jesus controls everything for His amazing purposes and glory!  Please click on the following URL Link.


So to summarize, I believe that December 10, 2011 is an extremely high Rapture watch day.  In addition to the above evidence, please consider the following facts:

1.   Pearl Harbor Day is December 7, 2011 and this year is the “70th anniversary”.  [Many of us believe that 70 years is the length of the final generation according to Psalms 90:10]

2.  Armistice Day is December 11, 2011 commemorating the end of World War I, when the Allies of WW I signed an Armistice with Germany on November 11, 1918 at 11 AM on the 11th day of the 11th month!  We just experienced 11/11/11!  Wow!  [Remember the Fig Tree Sign, May 14th, 1948 + 70 Years = 2018.  If we subtract 7 years from 2018 it points to 2011.]  There’s little excuse for anyone to not realize how critical the year 2011 really is regarding the Rapture whether you want to call it Pre-Trib or Pre-Wrath.  It’s rapidly converging toward pointing to Pre-Wrath; and, the timeline that Ron Reese has been showing to us.  I believe that God planned it this way so that He would fool the Devil and his followers and they will have to deal with the shortened time period, which will take them totally by surprise, as well as, the unprepared Christians who miss the Rapture.

3. World War II ended on August 15th, 1945.  This was called V-J Day, which meant “victory over Japan”.  Now ask yourself, what Jewish Festival Day fell on August 15th, 2011?  It was Tu ‘B Av and I hope that most of you watchers know by now that Tu ‘B Av was pregnant with multiple “Biblical Types” of the Rapture and was an extremely high Rapture watch day!

4.  Don’t forget that November 29, 2011 was a highly marked day for signs pointing to the Rapture; and, it is exactly seven (7) days before Clay Cantrell’s start day of December 5th.

5. December 10, 2011 @ 8:38 AM in Austin, Texas where I live is the next Full Moon.  [Will Desert Storm War III start here to fulfill Isaiah 21:1-10 as I have posted previously? A strike on Iran is a likely trigger to start WW III.]

6.  December 10, 2011 is the date of next Total Lunar Eclipse.  Check the following URL Links.







7.  Dr David Owuor has a daytime meeting (conference) scheduled for December 10, 2011 in Kigali, Rwanda.  [Actually, Dr Owuor’s Rwanda Conference is scheduled for 3 days (December 8th, 9th and 10, 2011)]  These dates are Thursday (day 5), Friday (day 6) and Saturday (day 7) in the pattern of Charity’s Dream.  Surely all of you know by now that Dr Owuor has been shown by the Lord in a vision exactly where he will be in a meeting when the Rapture suddenly takes place!


This seems like a good place to stop for now.  I hope that this is very exciting news for you as we are surely very close to the finish line for us watchers, which will be the our Blessed Hope—the Rapture/Sudden Destruction.



 Maranatha! (Come Quickly Lord Jesus!)


Harvey Troyer (YBIC)
Emmaus Road Ministries




Written by twelvebooks

December 2, 2011 at 4:50 pm