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Feb 15, 2012 The destruction of the USA on this week as per Jeremiah 51?

In the past few days Mr. Reese has posted several articles about what he is seeing as warnings from those who are planing a NWO New World Order.

The sequence that is shown by him in his other previous articles is a three week series where the sixth time is due Friday the 17 of February, the day after tomorrow.

His articles must be read as a warning for a possible blind attack to the USA. The world is going wild with many enemies bent on the destruction of America, so the case he points out is a valid possibility.


RED ALERT!!! This is going to be MUCH worse than I thought!!

Wednesday, February 15, 2012 10:46 AM
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The post below was written by Mathman, and is a real eye-opener, as to the possible MAGNITUDE OF THE SUDDEN DESTRUCTION, COMING UPON THE UNITED STATES.  This post is not for the weak at heart.

Ron Reese

     Red Alert:  This is going to be MUCH worse than I thought!!

I must admit that, up until about two years ago, my view of the Final Seven Years had been incredibly naive.  I wasn’t naïve about the last half of the seven years for I KNEW it would be the worst of times.  However, I was definitely naïve about the first 3.5 years.  In my mind, this is how I thought the first 3.5 years would go:

                     Rapture of the True Church AT THE BEGINNING of the Final Seven Years

                     Due to the Rapture, those left behind are understandably confused and distraught about the missing

                     A supposedly great man of (at least initially) peace would soon arise, who would later be revealed to be the Anti-Christ

                     For at least the first year, if not two or three years, after the Rapture, the world would generally carry on as if nothing happened

                     Yes, even the memories of the Rapture would begin to fade and life would carry on after a year or so, such is human nature

                     Perhaps there would even relative prosperity as the Anti-Christ used this time to build up the world’s loyalty to him

                     For those who saw the truth about the Anti-Christ, they would have the Two Witnesses around to confirm that bad times were going to come at some point and to stay true

                     Oh sure, the U.S.A. would continue to falter, but in a controlled and slow fashion (or perhaps even remain somewhat strong in order to be used to support the Anti-Christ’s regime)

                     As the U.S.A. slowly declined, the European nations would slowly rise in power in order to facilitate the Anti-Christ’s reign and growing influence on world affairs

                     Sure, it would be fairly rough on new believers, and there would even be persecution from time-to-time, but it would be gradual, and only TRULY ramping up AFTER the final 3.5 years began

In hindsight, when I now look at the above, I can only shake my head and tell myself that I was utterly and completely WRONG, WRONG, WRONG, WRONG, WRONG!!!!!!!!!!!  (Did I say wrong?)

The only thing that was right about my initial viewpoint was that the Rapture of the True Church will come BEFORE ANY persecution by the Anti-Christ occurs AND BEFORE ANY of God’s wrath begins to make life hell on earth.  For we are NOT assigned to wrath!!

So what is my current opinion on just how much time will elapse between the Rapture and all hell breaking out on earth?  TRY…

NONE, NIL, ZIPPO, NADA!!  (actually, milliseconds to seconds at most)

Yes, Sudden Destruction will come IMMEDIATELY after we are Raptured.  Not only that, but we are now only around 8 weeks away from Obama’s crowning as the leader of the world on April 11, 2012 (AND THEREFORE the TERRIBLE 1260 DAYS of Persecution and beheadings that will follow shortly thereafter).

Not only that, but there will also be a lot of further destruction that will occur between the Rapture / Sudden Destruction and April 11, 2012, including most likely the battle of Ezekiel 38 / 39.  After all, everything is already in place for this battle.  The lines are drawn and the people in their proper places.  All we need now is a spark to set the Middle East on fire.

Indeed, we will be Raptured JUST MOMENTS before the first nuclear missile detonates over the first major U.S. city.  So exactly how devastating will this Sudden Destruction be for the U.S.A.?

This brings us to the very purpose of this post.  That is, to illustrate just how terrible this Sudden Destruction will actually be.  INCREDIBLY, after further study and prayer, I have determined that this Sudden Destruction will actually be MUCH worse than any previous scenario I had ever imagined or wrote about in the past!!

In order to illustrate JUST HOW INCREDIBLY BAD the Sudden Destruction will be, I will be leaning HEAVILY on Jeremiah 51.  To do this, I will perform the following steps:

                     First, I will illustrate why Jeremiah 51 could not be a prophecy for ancient Babylon

                     Second, I will illustrate why Jeremiah 51 most likely is a prophecy SPECIFICALLY for the U.S.A.

                     Third, I will illustrate how Jeremiah 51 paints a hellish picture of just how INCREDIBLY terrible, wide-ranging and sudden the destruction, that the U.S.A. will soon experience, will be!!

However, before I begin, I must stress that I am NOT the only one who feels strongly that Jeremiah 51 is actually about the future Sudden Destruction of the U.S.A.  If you look around the internet on this, you will see that many have written MUCH longer dispositions on why this could very well be the case.

While there are some respected scholars that feel, including Jack Kelley, that Jeremiah 51 describes the destruction of some currently obscure tourist town that is half built in Iraq that will “somehow” become a major city in the very near future, I couldn’t disagree more.  This is not only farfetched, but in contrast to the Scripture’s description.  An obscure tourist town simply cannot become a renowned city that all nations will make themselves drunk with before the end-times are complete.  But even more tellingly, verse 43 specifically references that “her cities will become desolate.  A single obscure city in Iraq cannot possibly have “cities”.  The two terms, cities “in” a city, are completely incompatible.

A more practical view is that Jeremiah 51 is most likely referring to the U.S.A.  It is the reason why so many others that have TRULY studied these verses in Jeremiah 51 realize that God would have most likely been speaking about the U.S.A.  When I am done this article, I am convinced that you will agree.

It is a tragic story, really.  At one time, the U.S.A. was the greatest light of Christianity in the world, with a Constitution founded on the very fundamental tenets of the Bible.

Flash forward to today.  Madonna has a satanic worship service as the half-time show for Super Bowl and there is no public outrage.  Not only that, but a preacher indicates that he and his wife really enjoyed the show.  1000s of babies are murdered in the womb every day and no public outrage.  The list could fill a book, but that is NOT the purpose of this post so I will stop now.

Yes, the slope of the U.S.A.’s deterioration has been gradual since the Constitution came into effect.  However, recently it has become incredibly steep, most notably since the 60s.  And now, the U.S.A. finds itself at the very bottom of the hill.  Not only that, but the U.S.A. has now foolishly left the main road and has found a pigsty to wallow in.  Due to the sin-filled nature of humanity as it is today (as in the Days of Noah), the U.S.A., as well as the rest of the world, is now at the brink of judgment.  The only thing holding judgment back is the Church and we will soon be Raptured.

Thank the Lord ALWAYS, we, His Bride, are not assigned to wrath!  We shall soon be Raptured JUST prior to the Sudden Destruction hitting.  Yes, JUST before, but, thank the LORD, before nonetheless!!  As such, it is more important now then ever that we all obey the following COMMANDMENT from Jesus with all of our hearts, minds and souls:

Luke 21:36:  “Watch ye therefore, and pray always, that ye may be accounted worthy to escape all these things that shall come to pass, and to stand before the Son of man.”

Jeremiah 51:  NOT a prophecy for the ancient Babylon

There are MANY reasons contained in Jeremiah 51 that this chapter cannot be speaking of ancient Babylon.  However, in order to keep this particular section REALLY brief, I am only going to concentrate on one single verse.

Verse 37 states the following:  And Babylon shall become heaps, a dwelling place for dragons, an astonishment, and an hissing, without an inhabitant.”


Ancient Babylon was defeated by the Medes and Persians through CAPTURE and OCCUPATION.  Ancient Babylon was never burned to the ground and never became “heaps”.  Since ancient Babylon no longer exists, ancient Babylon therefore cannot “become heaps” in the future either.  Not only that, but it says ancient Babylon would be “without an inhabitant”.  The land that the ancient Babylon occupied is now heavily populated.  Heavily populated and without an inhabitant are incompatible terms.  As such, this single verse alone proves God is DEFINITELY talking of a nation OTHER than ancient Babylon.

So who is God talking about?  This will be dealt with in the next section.  Well one thing is for sure.  It HAS to be a future nation as no nation has yet become a desolation without an inhabitant.

Jeremiah 51:  A prophecy SPECIFICALLY for the U.S.A.?

Jeremiah 51 outlines the following characteristics of the nation that God is referring to in these verses:

                     “the nations shall not flow together any more unto him”:  This means that MANY nations will be trading with this particular nation up to its destruction.  The U.S.A. is, by far, the biggest importer of goods in the entire world.  However, there are others that are big importers (China for one), so this only narrows the list down to the bigger importing nations.


                     “My people, go ye out of the midst of her”:  This nation must contain Jews (and probably also now means Christians as well).  The U.S.A. has more Jews than any other nation other than Israel (New York in particular).  Again, this only narrows it down to nations with a significant Jewish (and perhaps Christian) population.  China now has many Christians, so even they cannot be excluded yet.


                     “Babylon hath been a golden cup in the LORD’S hand, that made all the earth drunken: the nations have drunken of her wine; therefore the nations are mad.”:  This nation USED to be a golden cup in the Lord’s hand.  What nation was founded on the very principles of God?  The U.S.A.  Including the previous verses listed above, it is becoming clearer that God is most likely talking about the U.S.A.  But the subsequent words are particularly telling.  This golden cup has since been used for decadence, and more so each and every year.  This abuse of Godly “utensils” has happened in the past and, soon after, the “writing was on the wall” for their destruction.  Now then, what nation has exported movie trash, pornography, loose living, immoral behavior, the list goes on and on, more than any other country in existence?  The U.S.A.  Indeed, no other nation has exported more trash than the U.S.A.  Just ask any person WITH DISCERNMENT that sat through Madonna’s recent satanic performance at half-time of the world-viewed Super Bowl what they thought of the performance.


                     “Thou art my battle axe and weapons of war: for with thee will I break in pieces the nations, and with thee will I destroy kingdoms”:  God will use this particular nation’s military to destroy dictatorships and evil empires.  Is there ANY other nation on earth that comes close to this description other than the U.S.A.?  To me, it appears that only the United States meets this awesome requirement.  It certainly discounts the current area that ancient Babylon had existed on, as well as China and Russia!!


                     “O thou that dwellest upon many waters, abundant in treasures”:  Including Alaska, the United States dwells on the Pacific Ocean, the Atlantic Ocean AND the Arctic Ocean.  It is a HUGE country.  While not as rich in oil as the Middle East (which God, in turn, has used to raise enemies of the U.S.A. in the Middle East), the treasures that abound in the United States are renowned.  In terms of natural resources and climate, again renowned.  While only one country, did you know that the U.S.A. represents almost 1/3rd of the world’s Gross Domestic Product (GDP), wherein GDP is THE primary measurement of relative wealth?

If you can name one other country in existence today that even comes remotely close to meeting the above requirements, other than the U.S.A., I would like to know which one you feel it is.  While some nations meet SOME of the above requirements, only the U.S.A. meets each and every one of the above requirements.  There is ABSOLUTELY NO STRETCHING required.  Indeed, the foot fits the shoe PERFECTLY.  Not only that, but no other foot fits the shoe.

Unfortunately, in this particular case, the U.S.A. does NOT want to be Cinderella!!

Jeremiah 51:  JUST HOW TERRIBLE??

As outlined above, I can’t see how Jeremiah 51 could be talking about any other nation than modern U.S.A.  No other nation, past or present, meets all of the requirements of this EXTREMELY descriptive chapter (or certainly none that I can think of).  It can’t be a future nation, such as a revived Roman Empire, because it indicates that the Medes and the north destroy it.  It will be God Himself that destroys the final armies of any new nation used to destroy other nations.  The mathematical logic of it all is simply overwhelming.

We also know that the only thing keeping One World Government from taking hold is the U.S.A.  Indeed, AND in order to fulfill Scripture, the U.S.A. AND the Church have to be taken away AT THE BEGINNING of the “worst of all days”.

In other words, there appears to be overwhelming evidence, both historical, Biblical and current events, pointing to the fact that the U.S.A. must SOON be taken out of the way so that One World Government can arise.

But just “how terrible” will this all be?  As indicated at the beginning of this article, I alluded to the fact that the end-times will be MUCH worse for the U.S.A. than I had originally anticipated.  Allow me to revisit Jeremiah 51 with you to illustrate just how terrible God indicates it will be.

For the purposes of this article, I have assumed that the method of Sudden Destruction will be from thermo-nuclear warheads.  Why?  This appears to be the only weapon currently in existence that entails the type of damage outlined in Chapter 51 of Jeremiah:

                     “destroying wind”:  A “destroying wind” will sweep the U.S.A.  The nuclear blast from a 50 to 60 MT weapon would generate shock wave winds ahead of the fire wall of over 600 miles per hour.  A “destroying wind” is an amazingly accurate description!!


                     “And will send unto Babylon fanners, that shall fan her, and shall empty her land”:  The purpose of a fanner is to increase the size and intensity of a fire.  Another amazingly accurate description of thermo-nuclear warfare as this is a primary “symptom”.  The fire builds upon itself until it becomes a MASSIVE FIRE STORM!!  Notice that it says that the fanners “shall empty her land”.  This could only mean that the devastation will affect the ENTIRE affected nation.  Please note that I had originally anticipated that it would just be a half dozen or so coastal cities!!  Jeremiah 51 is telling me otherwise!!

                     “for this is the time of the LORD’S vengeance”:  Why is God allowing this to happen to the U.S.A.?  A quote that has been attributed to Billy Graham says it best:  “if God doesn’t deal with the U.S.A. soon, He will have to apologize to Sodom and Gomorrah”.  God is NOT AT ALL pleased with the decadence, sin and drug-crazed society that the U.S.A. has become (and is actually now proud of).

                     “prepare the ambushes”:  The end will come SWIFTLY and without WARNING!  These are the hallmarks of an effective ambush.  “Peace and Safety” and THEN SUDDEN DESTRUCTION!!  Perfect description, once again, and matches other Scripture perfectly!!

                     “will make thee a burnt mountain”:  This is the first reference to the destruction being by nuclear fire.  The fire is so hot that it turns sand into glass!!

                     “thou shalt be desolate for ever…a desolation without an inhabitant”:  No other weapon causes a place to be uninhabitable FOREVER other than a nuclear weapon, due to the radiation it causes.  This is why the Lord will make all things new again at the end of the end-times.  Only then will this land be reclaimed and be reused.

                     “The mighty men of Babylon have forborn to fight, they have remained in their holds: their might hath failed; they became as women: they have burned her dwellingplaces; her bars are broken.  One post shall run to meet another, and one messenger to meet another, to shew the king of Babylon that his city is taken at one end”:  Do you notice that the mighty men, the elite, as well the king, President Obama, survive the Nuclear Holocaust, remaining in their holds (most likely the underground Denver Airport city).  They must have survived, otherwise how could they hear the message of the Sudden Destruction of the U.S.A.  The only way they would have survived is if they would have known it was coming and had taken shelter.  The only way to know FOR SURE when something of this magnitude was about to occur is if it was a false flag attack.  Notice that it says “THEY” (the mighty men of Babylon = the elites) were the ones that “burned her dwellingplaces”!!  If not known in advance, the elite and the President would have been incinerated with everyone else.  But no, the elite and President Obama survives!!  As promised in his speech, President Obama would have “left the White House in order to spend more time outside of Washington DC with his elite buddies”.  This is JUST AS HE PROMISED TO AT THE JANUARY 28, 2012 ALFALFA CLUB MEETING (again, subtle, but direct)!!  Not only will President Obama survive, but will soon prosper (for a short time) and become the ruler of the world, the Anti-Christ.

                     “the reeds they have burned with fire, and the men of war are affrighted”:  Again, reference to destruction by fire.  Military men stationed outside of the U.S.A. will understandably be fearful of what is to happen next.  The military in other countries will be isolated, without orders and confused.  It is lack of leadership that frightens men of war the most.  Otherwise, they are hardened and trained to be without fear.

                     “And Babylon shall become heaps, a dwelling place for dragons, an astonishment, and an hissing, without an inhabitant.”:  Again, all signs of destruction by fire.  Only dragons find such an environment inviting.  Fire hisses.  Radioactive contamination means that the U.S.A. will remain uninhabitable.  Those who survive the initial blast (and there will be many) won’t survive for long.  Sadly, it will be an agonizing death without hope for rescue or comfort in their last hours of life.  If they were already saved, they would have been in the Rapture.  They better repent and accept Jesus soon as the next life (or death) will be MUCH WORSE!!

                     “how is Babylon become an astonishment among the nations!”:  The world will be absolutely shocked that the unsinkable Titanic has completely sunk!!

                     “Her cities are a desolation, a dry land, and a wilderness, a land wherein no man dwelleth, neither doth any son of man pass thereby.”:  This is cities as in plural.  It is not just Washington DC or New York.  This is an entire nation.  In terms of a desolation and a dry land, a nuclear weapon produces over 2 million degrees of heat for several minutes.  At this temperature, water (and everything else for that matter) instantly evaporates and becomes no more.  This type of warfare even makes wilderness instantly disappear, completely and without trace.  This is yet another perfect description of nuclear warfare as contained in the Bible.

                     “My people, go ye out of the midst of her, and deliver ye every man his soul from the fierce anger of the LORD.”:  Is this a hidden Rapture verse?  I believe so!!  How else will the Lord’s people escape from such an all-encompassing nuclear storm?

                     “Therefore, behold, the days come, that I will do judgment upon the graven images of Babylon: and her whole land shall be confounded, and all her slain shall fall in the midst of her.  Then the heaven and the earth, and all that is therein, shall sing for Babylon: for the spoilers shall come unto her from the north, saith the LORD.”:  These verses indicate that the spoilers come from the north.  Other verses in Chapter 51 describe the Medes.  The Medes are believed to now be the Kurdish people around Iraq / Iran.  The north most likely means Russia as they are north of both the U.S.A. (above Canada) AND Israel.

QUESTIONS:  Could the Muslims / Russians be working AS A TEAM with the NWO to bring down the U.S.A.?  Could the payoff for the Muslims / Russians be the deliverance of Jerusalem / Israel?  Could the Nazi NWO be repeating the same kind of deal that was made in 1939 between Nazi Germany and the Russians for Poland, but this time the U.S.A.?  I really don’t know, but it seems a real possibility!!

Side Note:  On September 26, 2011, when confronted in the press conference by someone who directly accused him of being the Anti-Christ, Obama replied that he believed that Jesus is Lord.  Now let us step back for a second.  Satan is the craftiest of all military geniuses.  Satan also knows the Bible, probably better than you or me even without the Holy Spirit’s assistance.  After all, he has studied it for 1000s of years and probably has his demonic horde reading over our shoulder as we read what others write, including this (unless, of course, the Lord chooses to prevent it).  Therefore, is it not possible that the NWO made this deal with the Middle East / Russia knowing full well that God Himself would wipe them out in the Battle of Ezekiel 38 / 39?  Would this not be typical Satan, furthering his goals without risking anything he deems necessary for future conquests?  Again, I don’t know, but I thought that this was some more food for thought.

                     “high gates shall be burned with fire…the folk in the fire…(t)hen shalt thou say, O LORD, thou hast spoken against this place, to cut it off, that none shall remain in it, neither man nor beast, but that it shall be desolate for ever.”:  This hasn’t happened yet, so it must still happen in the future…AND SOON.  Once the Sudden Destruction comes, neither man nor beast shall remain.  The U.S.A. will be completely and utterly destroyed as a nation, from sea to shining sea.  This is scary!!  Very scary indeed!!


In my previous understanding, I had always thought that our end-times documents sitting in our drawers at home and at work (as they currently are) would be of future use (and they still may be).  I believed that, during the first 3.5 years of peace (which we now know will no longer be happening), those left behind would be able to rifle through our stuff and come across our end-times material for direction.

For those living in the United States (and I am guessing that the UK and Canada MAY also come under attack at the same time), I am no longer so sure that there will be any time left AT ALL for those left behind to know better.  Or they may be too injured to move!!

PERHAPS if they have heard us speaking on the Rapture / Mark in the past and survive, they will repent and accept Jesus as they take their last breathe.  This MAY be the only thing we can count on.  As such, we must do the best we can to get whoever we can ON TO THE ARK before its too late (i.e., after the Rapture).

The second best we can do is at least let them know what is coming and hope that they will FINALLY believe before they die.  For those that somehow survive and live another day, the third best we can do is to do our best to make sure they know that they mustn’t take the mark of the Beast.

Sadly, we now have perhaps as little as two more days to go (two months at the very most).  Regardless, time is rapidly running out.

Fellow brothers and sisters in Christ, if there is ANYONE you have been holding off telling what needs to be told of what is about to come, NOW is the time.  While I wouldn’t necessarily mention any specific timelines, I would still stress that they most likely have VERY little time.  Jesus saves, not a date!!

I know that the readers on Five Doves have already done WAY more than there fair share, but it is imperative that we make ONE LAST PUSH before it is too late.  We don’t even know if we will have the weekend to do it!!  Or, for that matter, even if we have the rest of today.

I am VERY sorry to be transmitting such a messenger of dire distress.  However, the possibility of Jeremiah 51 being an end-time message for the U.S.A. has just VERY recently come to my attention.  To be perfectly honest, I am still HORRIFIED by what I have personally concluded about this awesome chapter of judgment.  As for we who are in light and not in darkness…


As always, to God be ALL the glory!!!  He is at the door!!  Maranatha!!

YbiC, MathMan