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May 8, 2012 The Harbinger: Jonathan Cahn Responds To T.A McMahon By Jonathan Cahn (My Opinion)

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The book the Harbinger by Jonathan Cahn is a book that I have enjoyed reading enormously.  Whatever the criticism about its style the comparison to Israel and a myriad of perceived defects the Truth remains in what the author wanted to accomplish by it, and that is that the prophecy was repeated by leaders of the USA in the exact words and with the same intent as it was done in Israel millennial ago.

Below is Jonathan’s reply to a critic and to be able to understand the importance of the book you must read it!

I will write more about the book and about some of the judgments I think came after 9/11 as part of the Harbingers to America and the world.

Nando

http://www.raptureready.com/soap/cahn.html

The Harbinger: Jonathan Cahn Responds To T.A McMahon

By Jonathan Cahn


I have been blessed by the service provided by various discernment ministries such as that of T.A. McMahon.  But in reading McMahon’s: The Harbinger-A Matter of Critical Discernment, I am reminded of the downside – the dangers that such ministries easily fall into:  namely, the tendency to attack that which is of the Lord just as readily and just as erroneously as others accept that which is not, the tendency to come against anything that appears to be outside one’s theological box, and the error of thinking that one is doing God and His kingdom a favor by enthusiastically firing rounds of ammunition at His own troops.

Beside the Point, But…

I’m glad T.A. McMahon finds The Harbinger to be a “clarion call” “sincere” and “one with which all Christians might agree.”   As for the comments regarding style, dialogue, wanting more development of characters, more drama, etc., I guess I should feel honored to get an artistic review from  him, but the purpose of The Harbinger is not entertainment, but to give warning.  Nor does it strive after any genre but has been generally seen as being of its own unique nature.  As narratives are used throughout the Bible to convey truth, The Harbinger’s narrative is similarly and simply, a vessel to convey the mysteries and the warning.  McMahon is entitled to his preferences in style, but one only has to look at Amazon.com and beyond to see that most readers in America strongly disagree and describe The Harbinger in such terms as “riveting,” “spellbinding,” and have been unable to put it down, many, and in many reviews, have called it the best book they ever read outside of the Bible.  As far as its story or narrative part is concerned, hardly a week has gone by where I haven’t received an offer that it be made into a motion picture.  But all this, of course, is very much beside the point and the message which will now be addressed.

The Larger Picture

What would be missed if one only read McMahon’s article is that The Harbinger has not only become a national bestseller, it has also been endorsed, praised, and hailed by born again believers across America, from every background from Evangelical, Baptist, Charismatic, etc. including pastors, Bible teachers, seminary professors, Bible scholars, experts in biblical hermeneutics.  If The Harbinger were really as McMahon believes, it would not be so strongly endorsed and hailed by so many solid Bible expositors with expertise in biblical hermeneutics, which has to be admitted, is much greater and deeper than his own.  His objections, I would suggest, arise out of a very major fundamental error, misperception, and confusion about what The Harbinger is actually saying.

Central Confusion #1: What The Harbinger Does and Does Not Say

The central criticisms in the review is that  1)The Harbinger presents as definitive fact that the United States as a nation in covenant with God and 2) That everything else in the book depends on this assertion.   The short and simple answer is:  The Harbinger never declares that America is in covenant with God   It does note that America’s founders did believe this, did consecrate it to God, and did establish the nation after the pattern of ancient Israel.  This becomes of note in view of America’s following in the same pattern of Israel’s apostasy and, now, in the appearing of the signs and warnings of its judgment as revealed in The Harbinger – Thus God can use that pattern to speak to such a nation.  But even if The Harbinger had asserted the idea as fact, which it does not, none of the mysteries or revelations within the book are dependent on any such premise.   Thus this central charge is groundless.

Central Confusion #2:  What The Harbinger Explicitly Does Say

 

The review’s other criticisms concern the Scriptures and biblical signs of judgment revealed in the book.  The one set of criticisms argues that things like Isaiah 9:10 and the Shemitah were about and for ancient Israel and not America.   The problem is this: The Harbinger says the very same thing.  This is one of the review’s fundamental misunderstandings.  The Harbinger never says that Isaiah was prophesying of America, or that the Shemitah was for America, etc. etc.  What it does say is very different – namely that this ancient pattern of judgment is now recurring in America, and in a stunningly precise way – and that God is able to use such patterns and signs to warn America, a nation in rapid moral spiritual apostasy and in danger of judgment.  In fact the distinction is very clearly stated in the book in the very same chapter (The Oracle) wherein the Scripture first appears:

“So what does all this have to do with America?”

“The prophecy, in its context, concerned ancient Israel.

   But now, as a sign, it concerns America.”

This is light years removed from the first assertion.  And all its resulting and dependent arguments (Isaiah is not speaking of America, the Shemitah applies to Israel, etc) entirely miss the point.  Thus, this second fundamental assertion is as groundless as the first.

Ancient Assyrians in Lower Manhattan

The article’s other set of criticisms falls along the lines of taking issue with the harbingers or warning signs, themselves, on the basis that there are differences with their manifestation and the original text.  By such logic, taken to its conclusion, one could only accept the validity of the connections revealed in The Harbinger if, on 9/11, America were attacked by ancient Assyrians, if the Twin Towers were made Middle Eastern clay brick, and if American leaders responded to the attack speaking perfect ancient Hebrew.

The problem here follows the previous confusion – The Harbinger is not presenting these signs as being the contextual fulfillments of prophecy, but as signs of warning and judgment.  The hermeneutics of Isaiah in context to ancient Israel are consistently upheld. Thus the issues raised and measures employed in McMahon’s article are, in the first case, misunderstood, and in the second, misapplied.  The question is not whether what is happening in America comprises the contextual fulfillment of prophecy, but rather whether God can use and is, in fact, using the same biblical patterns and progressions of judgment and the same biblical signs of warning as given to ancient Israel to now warn America.

If one wants to attempt to dissect or deconstruct them, just as anti-missionaries do with the claims of Jesus as Messiah, and as critics of the Bible do with Scripture, one may attempt to do so as McMahon attempts to do with The Harbinger (i.e. 9/11 wasn’t as bad as the first Assyrian attack, should it be singular or plural, etc.) – my job though is to sound the warning.  But while it’s been brought – some clarifications: The figure of the tower is neither essential nor required by the message, but simply stands as a symbol for the nation’s campaign to rebuild stronger than before the attack (a reality not in dispute and which matches the ancient case).  And, yes, the tree that was planted at the corner of Ground Zero does actually and absolutely constitute a Hebrew Erez, and it’s the exact same word used in the ancient scripture.  It should also be noted that the message doesn’t depend on any one manifestation of signs.  It is rather that all the harbingers cited, and the progression, have in one form or another manifested.  Even the article, with all its criticism, concedes, by default, that the similarities exist.

Washington, Solomon, & Caiaphas

McMahon charges that to see a connection between Washington and Solomon and to speak of the prayers offered up on America’s inaugural day as a consecration is near blasphemy on the grounds of Washington’s non-Christian connections.  This again misses the point.  When the Gospel records that a prophetic word came through the mouth of Caiaphas, it wasn’t about Caiaphas, but about the word spoken.  Neither is it about Washington – but about what took place on America’s seminal day.  The fact remains that on America’s first day as a fully-formed nation, its first government gathered in prayer to consecrate its future to God – and did so on a most significant ground of earth.

Attacking The Publisher

As to the criticisms of the book’s publisher (Frontline, CharismaMedia), I don’t believe this has any place, much less, significance in such a review – except to illustrate one of the dangers present in some discernment ministries, namely that of guilt by association combined with broad-stroke deligitimization.  The fact is, The Harbinger could have been published by any number of publishers, and most publishers put out a wide variety of books which some or many will find objectionable.  But it was the Lord who brought The Harbinger to Frontline of CharismaMedia.  What is disparaged in a few strokes of the computer keys is a Christian publishing house made up of men and women who though, no more perfect than the critic, love the Lord and seek to fulfill His purposes with sincerity of heart.  (The Harbinger was actually brought to Frontline in an extremely dramatic, far more than natural, and “out of the box” way – something I’d be more than happy to share at any time).

What Did Not Appear In McMahon’s Article

Arguments may often obscure more than they reveal.  Not that a reviewer can cover everything, but the reader of such a review would have little or no idea of the central facts contained in The Harbinger.  These include the fact that the very Scripture that binds together all these harbingers, the verse that foreshadows national judgment, and the vow that was proclaimed by Israel after its first warning of judgment was actually proclaimed in America on the very day after 9/11, by the Senate Majority leader on Capitol Hill – word for word.

Nor would the reader begin to have an idea of the magnitude of what’s involved in The Mystery of the Shemitah.  I do appreciate that McMahon notes: “Granted, the author does raise an intriguing date phenomenon” – But the reality behind this allusion is far greater than what is suggested – including the fact that the greatest financial collapse in American history happened to take place on the one day given in the Bible on which a nation’s financial accounts were wiped away – not just once – but twice – and seven Hebrew years apart, the exact time period ordained in the Bible for this to transpire – down to the exact biblical day.   The work of one analyst who did a statistical study of the chances of just these two occurrences, and using the most conservative of criteria, it to come out to, at the very least, one in a million, three hundred and sixty one thousand, eight hundred and eighty-nine.

These, of course, are only examples and a small part of the revelations contained within The Harbinger, more than enough to warrant any reader’s attention.  What The Harbinger presents are of the most critical nature concerning a nation and those within that nation – that the reader would a great disservice to himself or herself to depend on what people say about it but must read and decide for him or herself.

The Final Question

McMahon is certainly entitled to his opinions, but I believe his approach and stance with regard to The Harbinger represents a low point in his ministry, and will only have the effect of sowing confusion, misperceptions, and division in the body with regard to the sounding of a critical alarm.  At the same time, I have no doubt that the message of The Harbinger will continue to go forth and continue to produce what is now, in fact, actually bringing forth – repentance, salvation, and revival.

Thus a final question:

What if God were to sound warning to America of judgment? What might such a warning sound like?

Believers, pastors, ministers, Bible expositors, and Christian leaders across this land believe it would sound identical to The Harbinger – and that the warning is, in fact,  is sounding.

Let the one who has ears to hear – hear.

Nando

May 8, 2012 The coming war in the Middle East is brewing beneath the surface!

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Today’s Miami Herald published two articles that are very much related in their contextual message that being the rise of the Muslim Brotherhood and peace with Israel.

It has been my contention since the Arab spring started that the outcome of these revolutions would inevitably lead to war with Israel and the prophetic fulfillment of the book of Revelation and other prophetic writings of the old testament.

In her excellent article Frida Ghitis presents an analysis of what lurks beneath the surface of a piece of paper for peace between Egypt and Israel and Jordan and Israel.

Nando

http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/06/07/2838077/israels-peace-of-paper-with-its.html

MIDEAST

Israel’s ‘peace of paper’ with its neighbors

BY FRIDA GHITIS

fjghitis@gmail.com

We have always known that the rare examples of peace between Arabs and Israelis were built on a fragile foundation. Now cracks in that foundation have started becoming more visible, and they are making ominous sounds as they grow.

It’s a reminder that the future of peace will require a different kind of engineering.

I am referring to the first peace treaty signed by Israel and an Arab state, Egypt, and the only other one, establishing peace between Israel and Jordan.

Each of these treaties, and the ensuing relationship between Israel and the only two Arab states with which it was at peace, depended on relationships with one man, the man in charge. Peace never included the population at large. There has never existed peace between the Israeli and the Egyptian people, but between Israel and the Egyptian dictator — just one man, whose rule always looked like it would end in disaster.

By necessity, the treaties were signed on the Arab side by unelected rulers. Egypt’s Anwar Sadat blazed the trail of peace in the 1970s, and Jordan’s King Hussein followed in 1994. The treaties held up well in the sense that no fighting war erupted. But animosity against Israel never let up.

There was peace above ground. But bubbling under the surface, in the streets, the people of Jordan and Egypt — particularly Egypt — held nothing but bitter contempt for Israeli Jews.

The Egyptian writer Mona Eltahawy explained it best when she said Israel had become “the opium of the Arabs,” a way for failed Arab leaders to intoxicate their own people, making them blame Israel for all their problems.

The opium has stopped working, and throughout the region Arabs blame their unelected dictators for the mismanagement, poverty and corruption that plagues their countries. But the hatred of Israel remains.

That simmering anger, that distorted image forged in the intoxicating cloud could eventually destroy the superficial peace that has survived until now.

The presidential campaign in Egypt brought repeated instances of candidates seeking to connect with voters by showing them how deeply they share their hatred of Israel.

The two finalists who will face off on June 16 and 17 have given vague pledges to stand by the peace treaty. But the candidate of the Muslim Brotherhood, Mohammed Mursi, has talked about putting the treaty to a referendum. And a referendum, polls show, does not bode well for the treaty.

Polls show profound animosity towards Israel more than three decades after the two neighbors made “peace.” Anti-Israel sentiment extends across all political and age groups.

Mursi is on record calling the Israelis “vampires.” As the top vote-getter in the first round, he has been careful not to antagonize Washington and its generous aid package by engaging in new anti-Israel rants. But his surrogates have had no such compunction.

During a campaign rally, Mursi watched and assented while the Islamist preacher Safwat Higazi told the crowd in a soccer stadium that Egypt under Mursi will usher in a new Islamic caliphate whose capital will be in Jerusalem, where Israel’s capital now stands. As Higazi cried out, “Our capital shall not be in Cairo, Mecca or Medina,” thousands chanted in unison, “Millions of martyrs march toward Jerusalem.” Over the loudspeaker Mursi supporters heard the call to “Banish the sleep from the eyes of the Jews.” The runner-up, who will face against Mursi in the runoff, is Gen. Ahmed Shafiq, former President Hosni Mubarak’s last prime minister. Shafiq has warned that the Muslim Brotherhood and Mursi would start a new war with Israel. But when voters have doubted Shafiq’s worthiness, his favorite achievement to cite is that he shot down two Israeli fighter jets. There could hardly be anything more heroic in the eyes of Egyptians.

In Jordan, King Abdullah remains in power and peace with Israel is not up for discussion at the moment. But just a few days ago, a small group of Israeli tourists came under attack in Jordan because, well, because they were Israeli. A local newspaper, al-Arab al-Yawm quoted a Jordanian explaining, “Those who talk about peace between Israelis and Jordanians are delusional. The signed agreements are . . . meaningless.”

The message is clear. Peace requires bringing people, not just rulers, together. Real, lasting peace requires a willingness of two peoples to live side by side. It’s not enough to have a dictator sign a “peace of paper,” or even put his fighter jets under lock and key. Without popular support, in the long run peace cannot survive.

Read more here: http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/06/07/2838077/israels-peace-of-paper-with-its.html#storylink=cpy

Nando

http://www.salon.com/2012/06/07/egypts_political_future_tangled_in_legal_web/

Thursday, Jun 7, 2012 04:45 PM EDT

Egypt’s political future tangled in legal web

By , Associated Press

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CAIRO (AP) — Egypt’s newly elected parliament could be dissolved, the presidential election may have to be abandoned and the country’s new constitution has yet to be drafted.

Sixteen months after Hosni Mubarak was swept out of office by a popular uprising, Egypt’s political future is tangled in a thick web of court cases and bitter public squabbles. How everything is straightened out will be the difference between an end to military rule by July 1 as scheduled or a return to square one of a turbulent transition, a prospect that is certain to unleash a fresh wave of turmoil and bloodshed.

“Court decisions will raise a million questions. What we are seeing now is political messiness,” said Sobhi Saleh, a lawmaker from the Muslim Brotherhood, the fundamentalist group that stands to lose the most if parliament is dissolved and a Mubarak-era prime minister is confirmed as the one going head-to-head against its uninspiring candidate in a presidential runoff vote.

The vexing mix of politics and law comes less than two weeks ahead of the presidential vote between Mubarak’s last prime minister, Ahmed Shafiq, and the Brotherhood’s Mohammed Morsi on June 16-17. A winner will be declared June 21. Morsi and Shafiq were the top vote-getters in a field of 13 candidates from the first round of voting last month. Already, Egyptians living abroad have started voting in the runoff.

However a growing number of activists are embracing calls for cancelling the entire election, despairing of the prospect of either the Brotherhood or a diehard of the old regime ruling the country. Mohamed ElBaradei, the nation’s top reform leader, is one of them.

“Egyptians are not ready for elections when they are divided,” the Nobel Peace Laureate and former head of the U.N. nuclear watchdog told reporters on Tuesday. “Elections should be the final stage of democracy, which we don’t yet have.”

Only two days before the election, the Supreme Constitutional Court will consider two cases that could potentially throw everything topsy-turvy once again.

In one, it is reviewing a lower court’s ruling that the law organizing parliamentary elections late last year was unconstitutional. If the court agrees, the current legislature — where the Brotherhood is the biggest party with nearly half the seats — would be disbanded and Egyptians would have to go back to the polls to choose a new one.

The other case is whether Shafiq can stay in the race or not. The court is to rule on the validity of a “political exclusion” law passed by parliament banning many former regime figures from running for office. If it backs the law, Shafiq would have to drop out and the presidential election might have to start all over again from scratch. Thousands of protesters in Cairo’s Tahrir Square every day this week demand the law be enacted to exclude Shafiq.

Egypt’s transition to democratic rule has been tempestuous since army generals, led by Mubarak’s defense minister for 20 years, took over from the ousted leader in February last year. The country has taken one bad hit after another: deadly protests, a sliding economy, crime surge and alleged rights abuses by the military.

Adding another layer to the uncertainties is the 84-year-old Mubarak’s sharply deteriorating health after his sentencing last week to life in prison along with his ex-security chief.

Security officials at Torah Prison, where Mubarak is held, said the former president was suffering from high blood pressure, breathing problems and depression. He had to be given oxygen throughout the night and until Thursday morning, said the officials, speaking on condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to speak to the media.

Mubarak had been held in military hospitals from the time of his arrest in April last year up until his sentencing.

The security officials said doctors treating Mubarak were debating whether to transfer him to a better equipped hospital outside the penal system, a move that would be seen by critics as another example of the generals showing favoritism to their former mentor.

One sign of political progress came Thursday when the generals and 22 political parties, including the Brotherhood’s, agreed on how to select the 100-member panel to draw up a new constitution, resolving a three-month deadlock on the issue.

On Tuesday, the military had threatened to issue its own blueprint for the panel unless an agreement was reached within 48-hours — a step that would have further inflamed accusations the generals are trying to dominate the process.

Earlier in the year, the parliament selected a panel that was overwhelmingly made up of Brotherhood members and other Islamists, who together make up 70 percent of the legislature. That prompted a walk-out by the few liberals and secular figures on the body, and a court ruling disbanded the panel.

Under Thursday’s agreement, Islamists will only take half of the panel’s seats, according to Mohammed Aboul Ghar, head of the liberal Egyptian Social Democratic Party. Just over a third of its members would come from parliament, while the rest would be legal experts and representatives of unions, ministries and religious institutions, including the Coptic Church.

Constitutional articles would only be accepted by a 67 percent supermajority vote, preventing Islamists from pushing though anything unilaterally.

Court rulings have since the ouster of Mubarak in February last year made significant contributions to the nation’s reshaping after 29 years of authoritarian rule. Along with the disbanding of the constitutional panel, courts dissolved Mubarak’s ruling party, reversed the privatization of several state-owned enterprises and convicted and sent to jail members of the coteries of businessmen linked to the regime and who supported Mubarak’s succession by his son Gamal.

The cases to be heard on June 14 by the Supreme Constitutional Court could even more heavily shake the transition.

According to leaks in the Egyptian media Thursday, a body of legal experts recommended to the court that it rule the law governing parliamentary elections was illegal — meaning a new election would have to be held. The issue lies in the argument that it was unfair for the law to allow parties to run candidates in the third of the seats set aside for independent candidates. The other two-thirds of the seats were earmarked for party lists.

The same expert body recommended to the court that it rule the “political exclusion” law unconstitutional, meaning Shafiq can still run for president.

The court is not required to follow the experts’ recommendations.

After parliament passed the law, the election commission referred it to the constitutional court, allowing Shafiq to stay in the race while the tribunal looked into it.

Legal expert Mohammed Hassanein Abdel-Al said another option for the court is to rule that the election commission acted improperly when it referred the law for a ruling, in which case Shafiq could be thrown out of the race.

“It is very hard to predict what the judge would do,” said Abdel-Al, who lectures on constitutional law at Cairo University. “There are no precedents related to the exclusion law.”

Nando

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June 8, 2012 at 4:12 pm

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