June 18, 2012 Could the Rapture be tomorrow June 19?
Jan Herscu posted a comment in my blog that is worth careful scrutiny as it speculates that the Rapture could occur tomorrow June 19 Tuesday as to the fact that when the 22 degrees tilt of the earth is removed we should in effect turn back 22 days which would place us in Pentecost.
This is something that I quite do not understand, but maybe some other dove more familiar width the biblical astronomical signs give more light into the matter.
Any way tomorrow seems like a good day to go! I will place here my replies and the comments before this one today.
Submitted on 2012/06/16 at 6:31 pm
Additional speculative thoughts to ponder:
Interestingly, 22-23 days past SHAVUOT 2012 (May 27) is TUESDAY, June 19. Those 22-23 days will MINUS 7 yrs from now at the Return making the RAPTURE as having occurred on SHAVUOT 2012 after all (in hindsight). Thus, in this sense, the RAPTURE is on SHAVUOT 2012 after all, and my former letter detailing Shavuot should be reviewed.
Also, SUCCOTH, 2018 (2001 when the -17 uncounted yrs are subtracted) plus 6 months exactly (180 days) is NISAN 17, 2019 because Tishrei 15 plus 180 days is Nisan 17 (on Jewish calendar). Succoth, the 7th Feast (Jesus’ b-day) is to be the yearly Millennial celebration anyway (Zech 14); but 6 mths must be added to Succoth 2018 for the Millennium to begin on Nisan 17 as commanded by God to Noah as the beginning of days.
All three 1260′s, 1290, 1335, 2300, 7 mths burying, 2520, 2550….etc. are all clear in every respect with a Rapture date of Tuesday, June 19.
NOTE the events of NISAN 17: end of flood, crossing of Red Sea, Entrance into Canaan, Haman hanged, Jesus’ Resurrection and 1st day of the Millennium.
Submitted on 2012/06/16 at 12:46 pm | In reply to Jan Herscu.
Jan thanks again for taking the time to speculate these dates based on biblical facts. The facts remain that there are to many factors that have to be considered to take into account in God’s perfect plan and to be certain that our speculations are correct, but it gives us some target dates to look forward to with anticipation and joy.
The part of the earth going back to Nissan 17, 2019 is hard for me to follow as well as many of your deliberations concerning the Jewish months, but I can not form an intelligent opinion without a proper understanding of the subject. so a lot of your calculations I take without a 100% assurance of correctness. This does not imply that you are wrong , but it does mean that I do not have the knowledge required.
Submitted on 2012/06/16 at 12:38 pm | In reply to Jan Herscu.
Jan your answer is very good and gives us some further things to consider.
The earth travels around the sun in an elliptical orbit and it takes the earth:
period 365.256363004 days
avg_speed 29.78 kilometres per second (18.50 mi/s)
107,200 kilometres per hour (66,600 mph)
which means that to revert back to 360 days a year the earth must increase its speed of 66,600mph(notice the 666) to travel the same distance (940 million km)(584,087,800 miles) faster or the length of the orbit must be shorter to keep the present speed constant.
It is possible that by removing the tilt of the earth its speed may increase and become a non-varying constant at 360 days and the effect of the seasons disappear. At 360 days with the same orbit the speed will be 67,602.75 mph.
The question is what will cause this tilt to appear on the start of the seven years of Revelation?
Submitted on 2012/06/15 at 6:25 pm
22-day tilt loss/straight earth explanation:
The earth is on a 22-degree tilt; That is why the earth enters each Mazzarot sign on the 22nd of each month. When the earth is straight, each month will be the 1st day of the Mazzarot sign and the 1st day of the month (i.e. April 1 will be Taurus 1, etc.).
The specific sun’s RAY that is shining on San Francisco now will be shining on a point 22 degrees previous when the earth straightens….a ‘seasonal change’ of 22 days; but the sun’s position doesn’t change….just that of the earth (Isa 13:13, 24:1,19,20).
The earth was straight before the flood (360-day year) because the Bible speaks of the 5 months as 150 days (Noah story).
The tilted earth causes the EXTREMES of seasons with snow on both the poles, etc. With a straight earth, the entire earth will again be a temperate climate as at pre-flood. We know that the whole earth once was a temperate climate because of the trees, seeds, etc found far beneath the ice in the arctic.
You do know that at the end of the trib there will be no rain, no wind and great HEAT causing mega-evaporation forming the protective ‘canopy’ above the earth again…..thus no more pole ice. Know that a great fear of mankind is a worldwide flood/melting of the pole caps; but this will never happen because the water will evaporate upwards instead of flooding the earth…….J.H.
Submitted on 2012/06/15 at 6:15 pm | In reply to twelvebooks.
Well, so much for Saturday, the 16th.
Here’s the next date to speculate if you’re still into figuring.
God told Noah that NISAN 17 was to be the “beginning of days.” Well, now the earth backs up to NISAN 17 (Apr 22, 2019) at the Return. Remember that Nisan 17 was the END of the flood.
The biggest SIGN in the sky was, of course, the orb (UFO) over the Temple Mount Jan 29, 2011 (Rev 11/angelic measuring of Temple Mt). That was the beginning of the 1-yr warning (Jerem 51:46).
ONE SOLAR YEAR later was Jan 29, 2012, end of the 1-yr warning.
Jan 29, 2012, plus 142 days is TUESDAY, June 19, 2012, presumed Rapture. 142 is 120 plus 22 (22-degree earth tilt that will minus when earth straightens). Of course the 120 is the “4 mths to Harvest” span AND a match of the 120 yrs bldg of the ark (“…….as it was in the days of Noah, so shall it be…….etc.”). Also TUESDAY is a 3rd day, the traditional ancient Groom Arrival/Wedding Day. (Hosea 6:2-3, one meaning).
The FAST DAY of AV 9, 2012 (July 28) is still the presumed VICTORY in the mts of Israel following the Northern Invasion of Israel (Ezek 38-39). If the 7 mths of burying/bldg 3rd Temple begins the next day, Av 10, then add exactly 210 days to Purim, 2013 (Feb 24). Then Purim plus exactly 2300 days (Dan 8:13-14) to Temple Entrance Day, June 13, 2019 (Isa 63, from Petra via Bozrah) 30 days past the Return. The Return is TUESDAY May 14, 2019, Israel Statehood Anniv day and 30 days later is June 13 (which is w/out the minus 22 considered).
The Return at May 14 minus the 22-day tilt loss is NISAN 17 (Apr 22), exactly when the commanded Millennial
beginning of days” should begin.
The Return, if the Mazzarot is considered, is TAURUS 22 (“anger of bull, double 11/double judgment”). Also, the end of the trib, as per the above scenario, is Leo 8.
Mid trib (nothing so significant to notice other than Hanukkah) is Kislev 19, SAGIT 10, Dec 1, 2015. That is the day the a.c. stops dy sacrifices, sets self in Temple as ‘god,’ is killed and satanically ‘rises’ 3 days later on Kislev 22 when he kills Elijah and Moses who rise 3 days later on KISLEV 25 (Hanukkah), Dec 7.
The fact that the earth now backs up to NISAN 17 holds enormous hope of the above scenario to materialize, as far as I am concerned.
So consider the above if you still have hope of the Rapture occurring in 2012. Take care……..J.H.
Submitted on 2012/06/11 at 10:06 pm | In reply to Jan Herscu.
Jan thank you for your article I find it very good and possible.
I also believe that the reverting to a year of 360 days must involve changes in the relative position of the earth to the sun. Your thoughts in the matter are focused in the tilt of the earth and I do not follow how this will revert to 360 days. I believe that the tilt is for the seasons mainly but the earth orbit around the sun being elliptical implies also a variation of the distance to the sun that could cause differences in temperature. I thought that what had to change is the length of the elliptical orbit by it being shorter, but it does not matter what way the Lord will make it.
I hope that your speculative thoughts are correct and that we only have two more days till the Rapture.
Very good observation on the number 12 as twelvebooks is the name of this blog also.
I will forward your speculation timeline to http://www.fivedoves.com so the doves can see it.
Submitted on 2012/06/11 at 6:48 pm
Here are the latest speculative thoughts if interested:
Jesus said (as he wept over Jerusalem/one of three times): “You will not see me again until you say, “Blessed is He Who comes in the Name of the Lord.” Nisan 10 has to be repeated to become a day of Kingly triumph.
The great HOSANNA call (as above) was the praise shouted by the crowds on NISAN 10 (Palm Sunday/Triumphal Entry, Jesus on donkey) 4 days before the crucifixion. At the end of the trib when the protected Jewish Remnant of Petra CALL JESUS BACK, it will be likely be NISAN 10, 2019, Apr 15 (‘same day’ as May 8, 2019 when the 23-day loss is considered). Their shout for Jesus to return will be, “BLESSED IS HE WHO COMES in the NAME of the LORD.”
A RETURN date of Wed, May 8, 2019 (Iyyar 3, Taurus 17) backs up 23 days to NISAN 10. Nisan 10, 2019 is Apr 15 and still Taurus 17. May 8 and Apr 15 will be as the ‘SAME DAY’ (23-day difference). The earth will then be straight (Isa 13:13, 24:1,19,20), a 360-day year.
Jesus’ Entrance on a DONKEY was in PEACE & SUBMISSION (Nisan 10); but when Jesus Returns (Rev 19), He will be riding a white HORSE. His Entrance from Heaven back to earth upon a HORSE is in CONQUEST and KINGSHIP.
The May 8th Return reverting back to NISAN 10 (losing the 23-degree tilt) are BOTH the ‘SAME DAY.” That day (‘the Day of the Lord’) is also TAURUS 17 (‘bull’ Deut 33:17 – Christ returns in ANGER).
In the Millennium NISAN 17 will be TAURUS 17 (& April 17) as both calendars & the Mazzarot cycle are synchronized. God told Noah that NISAN 17 (end of flood) shall be the ‘beginning of days.’ Nisan 17 was also the anniv of Jesus’ Resurrection, the most important day in human history (as well as anniv of crossing of Red Sea, Entrance in Canaan to taste Firstfruits, Haman hanged).
As for the pre-Rapture spans, the 1-yr warning still began on Jan 29, 2011, the UFO over the Temple Mt (Rev 11, angelic measuring of the Temple), ending at January 24, 2012 (360 days later/one perfect YEAR, Jerem 51:46). Jan 24 plus exactly 4 Jewish mths/118 days (“…to Harvest”) is Iyyar 28 (‘Yom Yerushalaim’/anniv of reclamation of Temple Mt June 7, 1967) plus another 23 days is Wed, June 13, 2012, the possible Rapture date.
The 2520 days trib span would be WED, June 13, 2012 to WED, May 8, 2019 (the Return/Zech 14:4, Rev 19). The Jews’ supernatural 1260 days of Protection in Petra would span Nov 25, 2015 (Wed) to May 8, 2019 (Wed).
The END of the TRIB with all the above considered (75 days past the RETURN) is LEO 1, 2019. Leo is the 12th Mazzarot sign, LION of JUDAH, Jesus in charge of the earth at trib end with the 45-day judgment of the Nations completed. 12 is the number of perfect gov’t (e.g. 12 disciples, 12 tribes, 12 hrs day, 12 hrs night, 12 mths, 12 x 12 =144, 120 age of Moses at death, 120 Jubilees for fallen man, 120 trumpeters preceded army, 120 in upper room, 120 yrs bldg ark..etc).
As for the 2300 days of Temple Desecration (Dan 8:13-14), they likely span Feb 19, Adar 9, 2013 to the day Jesus enters the Temple with the Petra Jewish Remnant 30 days after the Return, June 8, 2019 (Isaiah 63).
Feb 19, 2013 is exactly 7 Jewish months (burying bodies/bldg 3rd Temple) past Av 9, 2012, the likely DIVINE VICTORY in the mts of Israel following the Ezek 38-39 Northern Invasion of Israel. Av 9 is the primary FAST DAY that is to be TURNED to JOY (Zech 8). Av 9, 2012 (July 28) is 45 days past Wed, June 13, 2012. This is the likely day that Elijah and Moses will arrive for their 1260-day ministry, ending at their murder when the a.c. ‘rises, Nov 25, 2015. When the a.c. satanically ‘rises,’ he will finally have the power to destroy the 2 witnesses.
If the signing was possibly Sunday, June 10 (3 days before the Rapture), the mid trib (1260 later) is SUNDAY, Nov 22, 2015 (anti-christ stops dy sacrifices, sets self in 3rd Temple as ‘God,’ is killed) Sagittarius 1. Sagittarius is the sign of the great HERO-CONQUERER/JESUS (destroyer of Satan’s head/Scorpio)…..the sign Satan would likely covet as he proclaims himself ‘God.’
NISAN 10, 2019 (earth straight) is 6 mths past Tishrei 10, Yom Kippur, 2018 (5779). When all is considered (plus the 17 uncounted yrs figured in), Tishrei 10, 2018 will actually be Tishrei 10/Yom Kip 2001, the official beginning of the 121st Jubilee. However 6 mths must be added to validate the Ezek 45 Millennial start in NISAN, 2002 (seen as 2019).
Note too that the Pyramid timeline is 2011-2018, with 6 mths added to arrive at NISAN 10, 2019.
The day Jesus Enters the Temple (Isa 63) 30 days past the Return is June 8, 2019 and also May 15….’same day’ with the 23-day difference. May 15 is, of course, the 71st anniv of Israeli Statehood. May 15 of 1948 count began at Rosh of 1948, ending 70 yrs later at Rosh 2018…….but the 6-mth extension comes to 71 yrs; but the true span is seen as 70 yrs. Interestingly (but spec), May 15 is Gemini 15, middle of the sign of the ‘TWINS walking hand in hand’ (Jesus and the Remnant).
June 13, 2012, the possible Rapture date, is also GEMINI 24 (…..the’twins’, ‘Jesus walking w/ Church/888)…..spec.
So all is balanced concerning the following spans: 1260, 1260 (2520), 30 days mourning, 45 days judg of Nations, 2300 days Temple Desecration, 7 mths burying, Av 9 turned to Joy, 4 mths to Harvest, 23 days to minus, 1-yr warning, Nisan 10 King takes over earth/earth straight, Sagit 1 mid trib, Iyyar 28 Jerusalam day anniv and 2550 days from beginning of trib to Jesus’ Entrance into Temple matching the 2550 YRS 583 B.C./1st Temple Destruction to 1967…..etc…..all seemingly reasonably matched points in the scenario.
A review of the Millennial calendar and some of the modern Fig Tree Patterns (ending Rosh/Yom Kip, 2018):
Nis 1…….Apr 1…….Taur 1
Iyyar 1….May 1……Gem 1
Siv 1…….June 1…..Can 1
Tam 1…..July 1….,Leo 1
Av 1…….Aug 1…..Virg 1
Elul 1…..Sept 1…..Libr 1
Tish 1….Oct 1……Scor 1
Ches 1…Nov 1…..Sagi 1
Kis 1…..Dec 1…..Capr 1
Tev 1….Jan 1……Aqua 1
Shev 1…Feb 1…..Pisc 1
Adar 1….Mar 1….Aries 1
1898: 2nd Zionist Conference 1898 – 2018 (Christ’s Return) = 120 yrs.
1918: Balfour – 2018 = 100 yrs
1967-2018 = 50 FULL yrs
1898 – 1938 Holocaust = 40 yrs (testing)
1898 – 1948 Statehood = 50 yrs
1917 – 1967 = 50 yrs
1918 – 1938 = 20 yrs (military age & end of age of accountability/begin at age 12)
1918 Balfour Decl – 2018 = 100 yrs
1948 – 2018 = 70 yrs
1918 – 1948 = 30 yrs (30=maturity)
1897 (1st Zionist Conf) – 1967 = 70 yrs
1938 (Holocaust) – 2018 = 80 yrs
519 B.C. (Hag 2) + 2520 = 2001
1611 King James Bible + 400 yrs = 2011