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Are the heavens anouncing the start of the Apocalypse? a study using Luis Vega charts Aug 29, 2013


There are two posts today in http://www.fivedoves.com that are very significant in the determination of the start of the day of the Lord or the seven year Tribulation called the Apocalypse.

The first is an excellent article by Mr. Luis Vega with a link to some charts he produced of the heavens and the link to the sign of the woman and the dragon shown in Rev :12. The other is by BG Ellis. The links to both are given below.

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Blood Moon Rising! Jesus Returning Soon? Carl Gallups explains

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c0YLHDXPAd4&feature=youtube_gdata_player

and the one for Luis Vega:

Luis Vega (29 Aug 2013)
Rev 12 Heavenly Sign: 2017 – the Coming Middle-East & Celestial Warshttp://www.fivedoves.com/letters/aug2013/luisv829.htm

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I will try to explain what I see in the post of Luis Vega and the video of Gallups.

First I must say that I believe that the 70th week of years of the prophet Daniel 9:27 and the span of time from Rev 6 to 19 are the same. I also believe that the seven seals, seven trumpets and seven bowls are in series and that none occur in parallel or in any combination that the readers imagination wants to put it. The word is precise and orderly and rev12 does not come at the same time or before rev7.

At Rev 11 we see the role of the two witnesses and it says that their testimony is 1260 days long and they are killed, remain dead 3 1/2 days and are resurrected, at Rev11:4 it says this ends the second woe or 6th trumpet.

http://biblehub.com/niv/revelation/11.htm

Next we see the 7th trumpet sound and the coming of the seven cups of wrath.

At this point with Rev12 the woman and the dragon are shown. The woman was pregnant and the dragon was ready to devour the child. On verse 6 the woman fled to the desert for 1260 days to be protected. Rev 13 is a continuation of the narrative and shows the dragon coming out of the sea and in Rev13:6,14 was given 3 1/2 Years to exercise its authority.

http://biblehub.com/niv/revelation/12.htm

From these two chapters we see the same period of time 3 1/2 years that are describing the same period one describes what will happen to Israel at the same time that the other describes the dragon doing his thing in the rest of the world. This is to me the great tribulation.

Going back from the description of the woman in the heavens a period of 1260 days we can determine the start of this seven year time period, or the beginning of the ministry of the two witnesses of Rev 11. The 3 1/2 days that they are dead could be a period between the two halves or as I am more inclined to think include in the last 3 1/2 years.

In Luis Vega’s article and charts he gives the most probable date for the sign of the virgin and dragon to appear as September 23, 2017. Going back 1260 days from that date (http://www.timeanddate.com/date/dateadded.html?m1=9&d1=23&y1=2017&type=add&ay=&am=&aw=&ad=1260) we get the date April 12, 2014 which is 3 days before the blood moon lunar eclipse that falls on Passover April 15, 2014, the first of the moon tetrads. It is important to understand also that at the start of the tribulation the years will revert back to 360 days in a year so the calendar dates will not coincide any more with the ones we have now but the position of the constellations will keep their order and each will align with 30 days.

The Rapture of the church in my opinion could occur at any time before the start of the Tribulations. It could well be today and the world would still have a few months to the Tribulation.

All the numbers are based on the date of the virgin of Rev 12 in the sky and as such it could be on a different year and the scenario be off.

Nando end

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