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Oct 2, 2013 Pope Francis interview on La Repubblica with atheist editor

I just posted Obama’s thinking about the Pope and when I opened my mail I had this link that was sent to me about Pope Francis.

All the statements that the Pope has made until this moment are geared to make him a vos populi or beloved with the multitudes. There is no doubt in my mind that he is a magnet for controversial statements that endear him with the world.

A lot of discernment must be used to see his real message and to understand his erroneous theological and gospel teachings.

His leanings are about Liberation Theology pronouncements, his view of sin in my opinion is not gospel based and salvation comes from faith in Jesus Christ as our redeemer in the cross who died for our sins and our believe in His resurrection. Loving and caring for the poor on itself will not save anybody as works are not sufficient for salvation. Atheist who do not believe in Jesus Christ are not saved as well as those who in rebellion live unrepentant in sin.

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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/10/01/pope-francis-interview_n_4023659.html?utm_hp_ref=religion

Pope Francis La Repubblica Interview Rocks Church!

Religion News Service  |  By David Gibson Posted: 10/01/2013 12:01 pm EDT  |  Updated: 10/02/2013 5:25 pm EDT

(RNS) Pope Francis has done it again: Just two weeks after the publication of a lengthy, detailed interview in which he expounded on his new vision for the church he has given another interview, this time with the atheist editor of an Italian daily.

Francis had recently written an open letter to Eugenio Scalfari of La Repubblica, and then called the editor up out of the blue — as is his habit. The exchange, Scalfari wrote, went like this:

“Hello, this is Pope Francis.”

“Hello Your Holiness,” I say and then: “I am shocked. I did not expect you to call me.”

“Why so surprised? You wrote me a letter asking to meet me in person. I had the same wish, so I’m calling to fix an appointment. Let me look at my diary: I can’t do Wednesday, nor Monday, would Tuesday suit you?”

“That’s fine,” I answer.

“The time is a little awkward, three in the afternoon, is that OK? Otherwise it’ll have to be another day.”

“Your Holiness, the time is fine.”

“So we agree: Tuesday 24 at 3 o’clock. At Santa Marta. You have to come into the door at the Sant’Uffizio.”

Here are some highlights of their conversation:

On the church and politics:

“I believe that Catholics involved in politics carry the values of their religion within them, but have the mature awareness and expertise to implement them. The Church will never go beyond its task of expressing and disseminating its values, at least as long as I’m here.”

On his plans to reform the church:

“I’m not Francis of Assisi and I do not have his strength and his holiness. But I am the Bishop of Rome and Pope of the Catholic world. The first thing I decided was to appoint a group of eight cardinals to be my advisers. Not courtiers but wise people who share my own feelings. This is the beginning of a Church with an organization that is not just top-down but also horizontal.”

On the Roman Curia, the Vatican bureaucracy:

“It sees and looks after the interests of the Vatican, which are still, for the most part, temporal interests. This Vatican-centric view neglects the world around us. I do not share this view and I’ll do everything I can to change it. The Church is or should go back to being a community of God’s people, and priests, pastors and bishops, who have the care of souls, are at the service of the people of God.”

On the obstacles he faces:

“The real trouble is that those most affected by (narcissism) — which is actually a kind of mental disorder — are people who have a lot of power. Often bosses are narcissists. … Heads of the Church have often been narcissists, flattered and thrilled by their courtiers. The court is the leprosy of the papacy.”

On careerist priests:

“It also happens to me that when I meet a clericalist, I suddenly become anti-clerical. Clericalism should not have anything to do with Christianity.”

On the greatest challenges for the church:

“The most serious of the evils that afflict the world these days are youth unemployment and the loneliness of the old. The old need care and companionship; the young need work and hope but have neither one nor the other, and the problem is they don’t even look for them any more. They have been crushed by the present. You tell me: Can you live crushed under the weight of the present? Without a memory of the past and without the desire to look ahead to the future by building something, a future, a family? Can you go on like this? This, to me, is the most urgent problem that the Church is facing.”

On converting others:

“Proselytism is solemn nonsense, it makes no sense. We need to get to know each other, listen to each other and improve our knowledge of the world around us. Sometimes after a meeting I want to arrange another one because new ideas are born and I discover new needs. This is important: to get to know people, listen, expand the circle of ideas. The world is crisscrossed by roads that come closer together and move apart, but the important thing is that they lead towards the Good.”

“I believe … that our goal is not to proselytize but to listen to needs, desires and disappointments, despair, hope. We must restore hope to young people, help the old, be open to the future, spread love. Be poor among the poor. We need to include the excluded and preach peace. … I have the humility and ambition to want to do something.”

On the essence of his belief:

“I believe in God, not in a Catholic God; there is no Catholic God. There is God and I believe in Jesus Christ, his incarnation. Jesus is my teacher and my pastor, but God, the Father, Abba, is the light and the Creator. This is my Being.”

“Each of us has a vision of good and of evil. We have to encourage people to move towards what they think is Good. … Everyone has his own idea of good and evil and must choose to follow the good and fight evil as he conceives them. That would be enough to make the world a better place.”

On attaining salvation:

“Agape, the love of each one of us for the other, from the closest to the furthest, is in fact the only way that Jesus has given us to find the way of salvation and of the Beatitudes.”

On his favorite saints:

“You’re asking me for a ranking, but classifications are for sports or things like that. I could tell you the name of the best footballers in Argentina. But the saints … I’m not trying to avoid your question, because you didn’t ask me for ranking of their cultural and religious importance but who is closest to my soul. So I’d say: Augustine and Francis.”

On the moment of his election as pope:

“Before I accepted I asked if I could spend a few minutes in the room next to the one with the balcony overlooking the square. My head was completely empty and I was seized by a great anxiety. To make it go away and relax I closed my eyes and made every thought disappear, even the thought of refusing to accept the position, as the liturgical procedure allows. I closed my eyes and I no longer had any anxiety or emotion. At a certain point I was filled with a great light. It lasted a moment, but to me it seemed very long. Then the light faded, I got up suddenly and walked into the room where the cardinals were waiting and the table on which was the act of acceptance. I signed it, the Cardinal Camerlengo countersigned it and then on the balcony there was the ‘Habemus Papam.’”

As the interview ends and Francis escorts Scalfari out, they agree to meet again and the pope adds:

“We will also discuss the role of women in the Church. Remember that the Church is feminine.”

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The Antichrist first thoughts about the False Prophet? Oct 2, 2013

This is the first indication of the union that will exist between the 666 and the False Prophet both seen in detail in Rev 13.

Until this article the union was only in the Bible and yet future, but it was easy to reason as the Pope has given declarations on homosexuality and salvation that were bound to snare the attention of the man of sin.

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http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/10/02/20789935-president-obama-is-a-fan-of-pope-francis?lite&ocid=msnhp&pos=3

President Obama is a fan of Pope Francis

President Obama tells cnbc’s John Harwood that he’s “hugely impressed” with Pope Francis’s “incredible” humility and empathy.

POTUS digs the pontiff.

President Barack Obama said Wednesday that he is “hugely impressed” with Pope Francis’ humble style.

In an interview with CNBC, Obama was asked what he thought about the Roman Catholic leader’s recent comments that the church has become too focused on issues like gay rights and abortions.

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Pope Francis, seen here in St. Peter’s Square, gets high marks from President Obama.

“I tell you, I have been hugely impressed with the pope’s pronouncements. Not because of any particular issue,” said Obama, who is Protestant.

“First of all, he seems somebody who lives out the teachings of Christ,” he added. “Incredible humility, an incredible sense of empathy to the least of these, the poor.

“He’s also someone who is first and foremost thinking about how to embrace people as opposed to push them away,” Obama continued. “For any religious leader, that’s a quality I admire.”

Obama has not met Francis, who succeeded Pope Benedict XVI in March and has been praised for his down-to-earth, non-judgmental approach.

In an interview with an Italian newspaper this week, Benedict condemned a “Vatican-centric view” of the church and said its leaders have too often been narcissists, “flattered and sickeningly excited by their courtiers.”

An interview with Jesuit journals published two weeks ago quoted him as saying the church needed to find a “new balance” and branch out beyond the hot-button issues of abortion, contraception and homosexuality.

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Netanyahu (speech at UN) a leader sent by God for the prophetic times we are in Oct 2, 2013

Throughout the Bible we see how God has raised a person to fill the shoes of leadership at the time it is needed. This man He has chosen has the character, intelligence and leadership qualities to lead the nation of Israel at this very perilous and prophetic time of the end.

There may be other leaders waiting in the wings, but it sure looks that Netanyahu will be the leader to ride the seven year Apocalypse that is coming. In his speech he makes mention of the prophet Amos and does not restrain from seeking God’s Word for the moment at hand to guide him in his actions. This is a man to God’s heart.

By choosing to read an end time prophecy he demonstrated his belief that Israel is back in the land to fulfill the promises of God to his ancestors which he also named in the speech.

He also reasserted the scriptures by stating that Israel was back in their land and will never be driven out.

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The following link takes you to the comments by Mr. Gary Stearman on the speech that Netanyahu gave at the UN on Oct 1, 2013

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