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Nov 16, 2014 Pastor Bob follow the Money Trail Nando’s Thoughts

November 16, 2014

Pastor Bob follow the Money Trail Nando’s Thoughts

First of all it is joyful to hear from you with this well thought reply to Jovial’s articles rebutting your information.

Your vast knowledge and references read is a product of your many years of study and dedication and even your listing of these books to substantiate your points will not make believers of your well written articles in All Roads lead to Rome.

What makes your articles believable are the synchronicity they have with the Bible scenario of the events leading to and during the seven year Tribulation, of which we are at the door.

Back in early 1980 I was already versed in the prophetic scriptures about the end times and had concluded that the Antichrist must come from the USA and the False Prophet from the Vatican. I like many, thought that 40 years from the birth of Israel in 1948 would see the Messianic Kingdom start. So I said in the primaries (8 years before) that Carter definitively was not the AC so whoever won the primaries for the Republican Party must be the Antichrist. Reagan won the primaries and the election to become the President and for the next 8 years I was telling everybody that I came in contact with that he was the AC and that Pope John Paul II was the False Prophet. It turns out that I was wrong and right after all but the premises were off by 46 years. I know now that Obama is the Antichrist and the Jesuit Pope Francis seems to be the False Prophet.

These two facts would fit neatly in the web of deceit and manipulation that are referenced in your articles of the series you posted. It is through the guidance of the Holy Spirit that this is my conclusion today from all the info that I have also read. This without having to look and corroborate the references you gave that some I had also read.

May Jesus Christ, the Holy Spirit and God the Father guide and protect us in these very dangerous and difficult times as we anxiously await the Rapture of the Church in the near future.

Please follow All Roads lead to Rome 1 to 15 on starting in Letters August 24, 2014 for Part 1.

As a last comment I do not think that Jovial is a Jesuit plant and that what he expressed was his believe of what the truth is. The problem is that what is going on is so convoluted and occult that it is hard to comprehend. But Jesus knows and He will let the light shine on the darkness. The Bible should be our anchor to compare for the truth.


Pastor Bob (16 Nov 2014)
“”Follow the Money Trail””

All Doves:

I repeat a previous statement, there is no better slave than the one who thinks he is free! If you had been listening to Attorney Karen Hudes the past year or two, a former senior counsel at the World Bank, and whistle-blower, I might not have had to do my 15-segment on “All Roads Lead to Rome.” Her video posts and news interviews have stated a lot of what I have shared in my basic posts. She does have a web site and posts periodically from what I heard. I have viewed her interviews on various business and news sites on the alternative media of the Internet. She knows how to follow the money to Rome (i.e. the Vatican) and she states such.

In my 15-part segment on “All Roads Lead to Rome” I provided ample documentation, source information, document references to back up what I have previously shared. The bibliography is more than substantial by any standard. One of the books that I listed even tells how the Vatican franchised out its usury business in or about 1823 to the House of Rothschild’s. The RCC was conflicted over the issue of Usury because the Bible condemned Usury, and so by franchising the Vatican’s “money lending at interest” (Usury) business to the Rothschild’s so they [the church] could appear ‘clean’ in the public eyes on the issue by letting the Jewish banking houses take the blame as compensation for their part of their cut of the business. Rome hides behind a curtain of secrecy. They kept the common man from reading the Bible for over 1,200 years, and even chained the Bible to the pulpit of their churches, at least until they could change the Greek Text to write their own versions. Codex Vaticanus does not even contain the book of Revelation according to Vatican sources.

What most people do not seem to understand is that the Vatican always operate under a veil of secrecy. They control world events from behind a curtain of secrecy. From a document that I refer readers to, below, confirms they don’t operate under the guise of short term ‘5-year, or even twenty-year plans’, but rather generational plans of 100-years and more. The pope does not broadcast its agenda through its trolls. The Vatican is like an octopus with its tentacles reaching far and wide. Such was the case with Jesuit “liberation” theology in South and Central America during the 1970’s, and 1980’s. The Jesuits were big time players in the overthrow of governments with bringing about socialism to the peasants.

Jovial replied that America never filed bankruptcy. That is a bald face lie! Furthermore, that is typical Jesuit disinformation. Jesus warned us well in advance about being deceived. America did file bankruptcy in 1933 and is still in bankruptcy, and Congressman James Traficant did not lie in his speech as Jovial wants you to believe. This is why today, ALL American flags in court rooms, federal, state, local government buildings have American flags with a 2-1/2-inch gold-thread fringe. They are symbolic of being under Martial Law, Admiralty Rule, c/o Executive Order #10834, dated August 21, 1959 issued by President Dwight D. Eisenhower.

We [the USA] have been under a state of declared National Emergency Law, since June 5th, 1933. This is the date President Franklin D. Roosevelt declared the USA bankrupt. Do not allow yourself to be deceived, fooled, tricked into believing otherwise by Jesuit Jovial. He obviously has chosen to ignore history, treaties, Presidential Executive Orders, and knows nothing about military regulations pertaining to “Colors & Standards”, as carried by the US Army. I suggest the reader and especially Jesuit Jovial go to – and read ‘Get That Gold Fringe Off My Flag!’ There are many articles on the Internet concerning the USA’s bankruptcy as well as still being under bankruptcy receivership. Jesuit Jovial is counting on the fact that few readers will ever bother to check out the evidence. If you believe the US government does not deceive or lies, then you have not been enlightened of how our government has treated the indigenous Indians of this country.

Every year, the President, whoever is in office at the time, signs and re-affirms “The War Powers Act of 1862”. While this act is reconfirmed every year by the sitting president, it is the law of the land, despite the fact that it is held in temporary suspension and not enforced per se. It’s official, it’s on the books, and could be executed into existence in a heart beat. The USA has been in a perpetual “state of war” under the War Powers Act of 1862. What the War Powers Act does not define, stipulate or state as to just who is the enemy?

I corresponded often with the late congressman James Traficant during his incarceration and following his release from federal prison. I can’t divulge the content of our correspondence but James Traficant, himself a Roman Catholic, but rest assured he did not trust either the Israeli’s or the Vatican. Virtually, most of the American public was and still is oblivious to what James Traficant’s address was telling the public. People are more interested in being kept warm, fed, and entertained than to know how they are being robbed and led to slaughter.

My apology to Bob Anderson, I thought I had listed ‘The Creature From Jekyll Island’ by G. Edward Griffith. It definitely deserves to be on my bibliography along with Eustace Mullins book on the ‘Secrets of the Federal Reserve’. At one time I had read each and everyone of the books I listed on my bibliography list. Four years ago, I donated most of my personal library, approximately 6,200 volumes to a Bible college in Pennsylvania. I retained fewer than two hundred books that I simply could not part with at the time. My wife has been instructed to give them to the same school at my demise.

My bibliography is more than a good start for the genuine ‘Truth Seeker’ wanting to know the truth about who rules America. There are dozens of titles that should be on that list but I could not recall all of them since I had given them away. I only spent fifty years researching and studying these three major subjects: 1. The Bible, 2. Roman Catholicism & Jesuits, and 3. Freemasonry. Jesuit Jovial knows well that the real truth of history is not in the text books, but rather in the private papers, personal memos, letters, diaries, journals, correspondence, even old newspapers of those that made and directed history. I majored in history in college, and graduate school. A point of history here should be noted – there have been over 6,000 books written about the Jesuits, and virtually all of them have been removed from the library shelves of the world. Rome never excommunicated Adolf Hitler, as a Roman Catholic in good standing with Rome, this in spite of his having been responsible for the deaths of countless millions. Perhaps Jesuit Jovial would care to explain to us why Hitler remained in good standing with the Roman Catholic Church? Why did the RCC not excommunicate Hitler?

Several weeks ago I had decided not to post any longer, and to devote my time to other matters. I’m really not interested in playing the Hegelian Dialectic games with Jesuit Jovial so I thought I should retire from posting.

However, in respect to Bob Anderson, Nando, John B, Charles Holler, and the defense of the truth, I had to post one more time. I’ll try to refrain from posting after this post.

The 15 posts on “All Roads Lead to Rome” can be easily verified, that is if you are a Berean and really care about knowing the truth. If you are a ‘Truth Seeker’, then there are a few documents that you should read or view for yourself on the Internet. There is also a 3-part video on the Internet that tells a great deal more about a lot of what I wrote and even confirms a great deal of what I wrote in some of my posts. Don’t just take Jesuit Jovial’s words or even mine for that matter, but simply weigh the evidence for yourself. There is so much more that you do not know.

1. Search out on the Internet a site titled: “Change is on the Horizon”

It is a three part video titled “The American Federal Empire” with a ‘You Tube’ address I.D. at the beginning of the link listing:

Part 1 is titled “Dawn of the Golden Age”
Part 2 is titled “The American Federal Empire”
Part 3 is titled “The Farmer Claims Program”

The narrator is James Rink. Each is about an hour long. Part 2 is the most pertinent to a number of things that I noted in my posts, and is a must view since it addresses much of what I noted in my postings. You could learn a lot if you watched all three segments, but Part 2 is most recommended, it deals with the 20th century and confirms what I said about our being secretly bonded and collateralized as guarantee for payment of the National Debt. I know it is hard for people to believe the truth, and that has been a key reason for its success over the past eighty years. Why would any corrupt government broadcast the real facts? You were not taught this part of history in school. The Internet of today is the most dangerous thing to Lucifer’s minions because it exposes the power-driven sociopaths and psychopaths of the world that want to enslave humanity.


2. Search out a site titled: “Judge Dale (ret.) and “The Great American Adventure”

This is a 5-part document (94 pages) that you have to read in its entirety. A fellow pastor forwarded the document to me back in early 2012.

In searching for this document, use the link that begins with – ‘anticorruption society files’ (preceded with (PDF’) in front). It will be found half way down on the first page listing of links. Some of the earlier preceding links have been deliberately obfuscated to appear confusing with by blocking various means of confusing the reader with links going nowhere. Judge Dale is a retired Federal Judge who became a whistle-blower.

Judge Dale (Ret.) is a pen name for his own safety. Leaking the information in his 94-page document was like an invitation to have a ‘bull’s eye’ placed on his back. This 94-page report confirms a lot of what I posted in my “All Roads Lead to Rome.” One of the interesting oddities that I learned from Judge Dale is that there is a “Judges” school for those appointed to the Federal Bench or are in the Judiciary branch of government.


3. Search out a document titled: “Project Vatican: Blueprint for the Restoration of the Global Kingdom of Jesus Christ.” It is an 11-page PDF document.

This document outlines the Roman Catholic Church’s master plan to restore its power and the restoration of the crossed “Keys” on the RCC Vatican’s Coat of Arms, which was officially lost with the October 31, 1517 beginning of the Reformation by Martin Luther, which severely decimated Rome’s temporal political power and exposed its religious spiritual corruption of the RCC. The “Two Crossed Keys” on the Vatican’s Coat of Arms represent the keys of power: gold and silver for religious power and temporal power.


4. Search out the book, ‘The Grand Design Exposed’ at – and discover for yourself the real Mystery Babylon. John Daniel’s book is on line in its full text. Read it and save a copy to your hard drive, should we lose the Internet some day soon. I do not expect that we will have a free Internet much longer. There are too many alternative news sites and sites that the government wants to shut down permanently.


Everything in the above four references either corroborates or validates my series of posts, or adds further information that corroborates my posts with info I did not know or have access to at the time of my post writings. This is FAR BIGGER than any of us can possibly know the whole story. Jesuit Jovial is a disinformation plant. I would suggest the reader save my 15 parts of “All Roads Lead to Rome” to your hard drive for future referral. It is becoming more and more questionable as to just how long we will have the freedom of the Internet. Already, the control of the Internet has been relinquished by the USA to ICANN, according to the Washington Post of a few weeks ago. ICANN now controls the issuing/terminating of web addresses. This is but the first step in chipping away at the Internet’s freedom of information. Obama’s comments last week about “net neutrality” was nothing more than propaganda, and it will not likely happen. Obama really wants to regulate the Internet as a ‘public utility’.

The four references above are just a few of hundreds that I could provide the reader to check out for themselves. I could refer to hundreds of sources that support my posting information. I selected these four specifically for their comprehensive nature as well as a source to open your eyes to what is taking place.

Believe it or not, we are owned by Rome. Why do you suppose our own government has never made public its Concordat between Washington, DC and Rome. Maybe you were unaware of this fact. This Treaty (Concordat) was made between the Vatican and the Reagan Administration State Department in 1983. The US State Department and other Washington sources continues to refuse all requests! What are they hiding??????? Perhaps Jesuit Jovial has an answer for this deception.

Between 1985 and 2008, I made more than a dozen requests for a printed copy of the ‘Reagan Treaty (Concordat)’ between Washington, DC and the Vatican, and all my requests were denied. Beginning with President Reagan, all inauguration ceremonies were and have since been conducted with the ‘swearing in ceremonies’ facing the pagan Masonic Washington (pagan obelisk) Monument. His [Reagan’s] insistence that ‘Presidential oath ceremonies’ face the Federal Mall and the Washington Monument (pagan obelisk) merely hid the real reason for changing the venue formalities. St. Peter’s in Rome and Federal Mall in Washington, DC are “mirror images” of Mystery Babylon. Go to and read for yourself ‘The Grand Design Exposed’. This book was on my biography list. Rome is all about “SUN” worship and not “SON” worship. THIS BOOK SHOULD OPEN THE EYES OF THE DOVES! The Bible says a lot about “obelisks” and none of it is good!

You cannot obtain a copy of the Washington-Vatican Rome Treaty (Concordat), no matter how hard you try. Not under the Freedom of Information Act; not by personal written request to your congressman or senator! WHAT’S SO SECRET THAT IT HAS NEVER BEEN MADE PUBLIC? The State Department refuses all Freedom of Information Act requests. The fact is “ALL” other Treaties, made with all the other countries of the world are available to read, but NOT the Treaty (Concordat) between Washington, DC and the Vatican! Yes we are subjects of Rome. Of that fact, I have no doubt. One day, the noose will be closed so tight around the necks of America, and you will have to take the “Mark” of the Beast. As I stated previously, keep your King James Bible bookmarked to Revelation, chapters 13 and 17. In order that you know the six references to the “Mark” of the Beast, you will find them in: Rev. 13:17; 14:11; 15:2; 16:2; 19:20; 20:4.

Whether you choose to believe me or Jesuit Jovial is your privilege, but in case I am wrong, I hope and pray you will not have to face the decision to take or reject the “Mark of the Beast” or that you will have the will power to stand against the day you might have to face taking the “Mark” of the Beast. It has been interesting the past few months, especially so when considering the fact that everything that I have posted or shared about the Daniel 9:24-27 interpretation; the Cults; the King James Bible issue; the Textus Receptus; heretics Westcott and Hort; their “eclectic” ‘cut and paste’ version of the New Greek Text; All Roads Lead to Rome; the spurious Apocrypha and pseudepigraphal writings; ALL of these topics I posted on were attacked by Jesuit Jovial, yes, everyone. I expected to be pelted by Roman Catholic spears, but not to the degree of Jesuit Jovial. This is why I stated that his rebuttals were more than just coincidental. They are the words of a true Jesuit troll. The length of his rebuttals reflect a level of formal education that one expects from Jesuit excellence in theology and government. Only a Jesuit would be as capable of his ‘point-counterpoint battle for the minds and hearts of men and women at Five Doves. Hosea 4:6 and Revelation 20:8 are so so relevant for what is coming down the pike.

Keep looking up (Luke 21:28) and God be with you all,

Pastor Bob

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