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Why the USA is the Kingdom of the Antichrist! Dec 27, 2012

Many years back, more than 30 I was already studying the Bible prophecies. At the time it became apparent that the world at the time of the Tribulations would go into wars defined in geopolitical areas and all revolving around Israel and in particular Jerusalem.

It was always understood by me that Satan was going to manipulate the political systems of the world to position his elect the Antichrist in a position of power and authority. In my reasoning at the time I saw that the two most powerful nations at that time were the USA and the Soviet Union and with the prophetical biblical background that I had acquired it was my conclusion that if we were in or near the end times approaching the Apocalypse the Antichrist was being positioned to take control of the biggest military system in the world.

The role of Russia was easy to see as the Red Horse of the second seal and the Gog of the Ezekiel 38 prophecy. In Ezekiel Gog is defeated by God in the mountains of Israel and it shows the Nation of Israel burying the dead for seven months and living seven years from the spoils of war. This led to my conclusion that this Nation was not the one that the Antichrist was coming from.

A prophetic dilemma was presented in that the prophet Daniel implied that the Antichrist would come from the people that destroyed the Temple and these were the Romans. It became clear to me that the USA was made up of mostly descendants from the Kingdoms of Europe and as such the people were descendants of the Roman empire.

I concluded then and I still do that the Antichrist will come from the USA and we come to the present time where Barack Hussein Obama is the reelected president of the most powerful Nation in the world. It is the most powerful militarily, economically, scientific and industrial Nation of all the world. The article below covers only the military part, but it is enough to prove the point.

The article by Mr. Tom Franks is very good and it shows in one place all the factors that make the US military the most powerful in the world. One thing that is missing from the article is the atomic power that is available to this country.

Nando

http://www.ploughshares.org/world-nuclear-stockpile-report?gclid=CPLDt7aJu7QCFQeynQodBnoAew

World Nuclear Stockpile Report

The exact number of nuclear weapons in global arsenals is not known. With little exception, each of the nine countries with nuclear weapons guards these numbers as closely held national secrets. What is known, however, is that more than a decade and a half after the Cold War ended, the world’s combined stockpile of nuclear warheads remain at unacceptably high levels.

World Nuclear Stockpile Infographic

http://bos.sagepub.com/content/68/3/84.full.pdf

Nando

http://www.raptureready.com/soap/frank1.html

Focus on the United States of America

By Tom Frank


The role of the United States in Bible prophecy is something I wish the Bible would have clarified in further detail. Like most of the world, the United States is not specifically mentioned in the Bible. This very fact makes things very difficult for students and teachers alike as they attempt to pinpoint where this country will be at the End of this Age. Sure, it is easy to see how this country will be part of a one world system, but to be honest; I would love to see the amount of detail found in Ezekiel 38-39 for example.

Several months ago I began looking deeper in an attempt to discover this mystery and I found nothing but speculation by ministers and experts alike. Some of what I found made a ton of sense, as various individuals tied in the United States to several prophecies. For example, here a few of the more interesting ones I came across.

·         The United States is the messengers and ambassadors or a tall and smooth skinned people located in Isaiah 18:2.

·         The United States is the great eagle that is found in Revelation 12:14.

·         The United States is the Mystery Babylon found in Jeremiah 50 and Revelation 17-18.

·         The United States is the villages or young lions located in Ezekiel 38:13.

·         The United States is the sword that can be found in Ezekiel 38:21.

·         The United States is the coastlands that are mentioned in Ezekiel 39:6.

·         The United States is the eagles wings found in Daniel 7:4.

As you can see, there is a ton of guesses out there and as a result of this; I decided to take a different approach to this topic and its one that centers on the might of the US Military.

At the forefront of military power, the United States of America is leading the way. Here are some figures based on 2011 numbers that I obtained from IISS (International Institute for Strategic Studies). As a disclaimer, I want to announce that I am all for having a powerful national defense, but some of these statistics are alarming when viewed through the lenses of scripture.

·         The United States accounted for 45.7% of all money spent on the military on the planet Earth.

·         The United States spent 8.2 times more than China,and 14.03 times more than Russia.

·         The United States spent 739 Billion dollars, which is more than the next 9 countries behind it, combined (487 billion).

So now that weknow how much the United States is spending on the military as compared to the rest of the world, where on earth is this money going? According to 2011 data that is publically available:

·         The United States has more than 1000 bases worldwide.

·         The United States has a base in 150 countries throughout the globe.

·         The United States has around 1.5 million military personnel in foreign lands.

·         The United States has a military base on every single continent on Earth with the exception of Antarctica.

These numbers are quite shocking and for good reason, there hasn’t been a nation in the history of this planet that has managed this feat. Oh, and by the way, these numbers do not include the massive amount of “lily pad” bases scattered everywhere that remain classified. For those that do not know, a “lily pad” base is a small launch point for Special Operations that are launched under classified actions. Going further, here is a global ranking on the US Military in specific categories based on data from 2011.

·         Total active manpower – 1,477,896 (2nd in the word)

·         Total reserve manpower – 1,458,500 (4th in the world)

·         Total aircraft – 18,234 (1st in the world: 3 times more than #2)

·         Total helicopters – 6,417 (1st in the world: 7 times more than #2)

·         Total tanks – 9,573 (2nd in the world)

·         Total infantry vehicles – 26,653 (1st in the world)

·         Total towed artillery – 2,163 (5th in the world)

·         Total self-propelled guns – 950 (8th in the world)

·         Total rocket artillery – 1,430 (4th in the world)

·         Total logistical vehicles – 267,247 (1st in the world: 4 times more than #2)

·         Total aircraft carriers – 11 (1st in the world: more than the rest of the world combined)

·         Total submarines – 75 (1st in the world)

·         Total destroyers – 59 (1st in the world: 2 times more than #2)

·         Total frigates – 30 (3rd in the world)

·         Total nuclear weapons – 2,150 active warheads (1st in the world)

Now while the US military is not leading the way in all categories, it is however significantly more powerful in offensive projection due to naval and air power. This means that the US military can go to any place in the world and sustain the conflict.

With the United States and its ability to anywhere on the globe bring destruction down an adversary, what are some of the weapons they are going to be using? Here is a list of some of the weapons that are not only the most destructive on the planet, they possess a technological advantage that other weapons systems deployed by other nations.

·         The F-22A Raptor – A 5th Generation air superiority fighter that utilizes stealth, speed, maneuverability and advanced avionics that will provide the US an advantage over all other nations in air combat for the next few decades. There are approximately 196 aircraft in inventory with each one costing around $150 million per plane. Much of these airplanes abilities are classified.

·         The GBU-57 Massive Ordinance Penetrator – A 30,000 pound bomb that is capable of penetrating through 200 feet of concrete before detonating thus making it near impossible to hide from this weapon. There are 20 bombs in US inventory with program costing $314 million. The weapon is designed to be dropped by the B-2 Spirit stealth bomber.

·         The XM25 “Punisher” – A 25 mm grenade launcher that affords the US warfighter the ability to engage targets that are behind cover by air bursting the projectile over the enemy. The weapon system was deployed in Afghanistan in 2011 and approximately 41 are in service. In 2013, the US Military will begin production of 12,500 rifles at $25,000 each.

Some of you might be thinking that given the state of the world’s economy and specifically the United States financial issues, the drive for military dominance would end. However, there are no plans to do so, and in a rare speech made from the Pentagon, President Obama declared that – “Our military will be leaner, but the world must know the United States is going to maintain our military superiority”.

Two years ago, on April 10th, 2010, then Secretary of Defense Robert Gates declared that United States possessed a capability known as Prompt Global Strike. But before I explain what this system is, let us take a look at what the Bible has to say about how this world will be at the End of this Age.

·         I Thessalonians 5:3 (NIV) – While people are saying, “Peace and safety,” destruction will come on them suddenly, as labor pains on a pregnant woman, and they will not escape.

So let me ask everyone this question – Where is this destruction going to come from?

Keeping this verse in mind, allow me to describe what Prompt Global Strike is. In short, this system provides the US Military the ability to strike anywhere on the globe in one hour. This system includes the use of ICBM’s, hypersonic cruise missiles and a kinetic weapon system launched from space. In 2011, a test was conducted of the system as a missile was launched from Hawaii and struck a target in the Atoll Islands some 3,700 miles away. The entire sequence occurred in less than 30 minutes.

I found this system very interesting because of what is found in Daniel 8. To those unfamiliar with this chapter, it predicts the arrival of the Anti-Christ and his destructive actions after he arrives.

·         Daniel 8:19 (NIV) – He said: “I am going to tell you what will happen later in the time of wrath, because the vision concerns the appointed time of the end.

I – Here we have Gabriel beginning to explain the vision Daniel had by informing him that what he has seen will transpire at the end or time wrath.

·         Daniel 8:23 (NIV) – “In the latter part of their reign, when rebels have become completely wicked, a stern-faced king, a master of intrigue, will arise.

I – The Anti-Christ arrives on scene

·         Daniel 8:24 (NIV) – He will become very strong, but not by his own power. He will cause astounding devastation and will succeed in whatever he does. He will destroy the mighty men and the holy people.

·         Daniel 8:25 (NIV) – He will cause deceit to prosper, and he will consider himself superior. When they feel secure, he will destroy many and take his stand against the Prince of princes. Yet he will be destroyed, but not by human power.

I – In these verses we can see that the Anti-Christ will be responsible for worldwide devastation, only to be destroyed by Jesus himself at the end of the Tribulation.

Some of you might be thinking that I am saying the United States of America will be the location in which the Anti-Christ comes out of.

I am not.

Daniel 12:4 states that no one will know the correct interpretation of the Book of Daniel until the end.

·         Daniel 12:4 (NIV) – But you, Daniel, close up and seal the words of the scroll until the time of the end. Many will go here and there to increase knowledge.”

So… what am I saying then?

Well, regardless of what your stance is on the Rapture and unless the United States is wiped off the face the Earth, the US Military will exist at the time of the Tribulation and could be a part of the cause that causes worldwide destruction.

Come Quickly Lord. Amen.

Nando

Comments on Mary Anna, Dr. Michael Brown on It’s Supernatural with Sid Roth – The Real Kosher Jesus (Dec 12, 2012)

This article is to those readers who do not know who Jesus is and why He is God and Savior of a fallen humanity.

The video linked here is of a debate on Sid Roth its supernatural show. Sid is a Jew who came to the knowledge that Jesus was the Messiah and his shows are a testimony of his faith. In this video he gives his personal testimony about his orthodox father’s conversion at his death bed a short time before he died.

The requirement of forgiveness of sins is explained as well as eternal salvation or condemnation. Also explained is the need for a substitute to take your place with the death sentence that every human being carries with them upon reaching the age of accountability.

What is this concept of a death sentence that I am mentioning? and where does it come from?

The origin of it is in the Bible and it is in the narrative of the book of Genesis. There we see the creation of men and the universe by God. Please read Genesis 2 & 3 before continuing.

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Genesis+2&version=NIV

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Genesis+3&version=NIV

God had created a perfect man and woman and the place He put them on was also perfect. Adam he originally formed from the material He made the earth with that He had declared good before. This material was eternal and perfect. The woman he took from a rib of the man and using Adams DNA He formed Eve. At this point everything was perfect as Paradise should be.

But, and there is always a but, God at some point in time (this concept of time is also for many pages of discussion) before had created spiritual beings without a physical body called angels and with them had instituted a celestial government under His rule and authority. One of the highest ranking angels He created, Lucifer or Satan rebelled against God and His rule and dragged one third of the angels to rebel with him. These angels are the demons, fallen angels and the progeny of them the Nephilin. This rebellion against the rule of God is what brought the death sentence to these angels.  The angels are immortal spirits and death does not mean to cease to exist it means eternal banishment from heaven and punishment in the Lake of Fire.

Back in the garden Adam and Eve were living great with no limits to their movements or actions except for one simple rule. Do not eat from a certain tree, that of the knowledge of good and evil. with the rule came the consequences that had to be paid for the disobedience of the rule. And that penalty was death. Keep in mind also that God sees all the future all the way to eternity. It is at this point that Satan is first introduced in the Bible and we must assume the same with Adam and Eve. Satan in his state of leader of the rebellion and knowing the consequences of it decided to enroll humans in his ranks to oppose God and destroy His plans and creation. When Adam and Eve disobeyed God, He confronted them as well as Satan as a Judge and Omnipotent ruler. He pronounced the sentence of guilty by asking them how they knew their were naked, then pronounced sentences to all of them and cursed creation introducing the law of entropy to the Universe, this law is the one that makes everything with matter decompose and break down to its most basic element, thus death came to the creation.

In His judgment He provided mercy for Adam and Eve , but not for Satan. This mercy was a way to avoid death and eternal separation and punishment from God. Somebody was going to be found that was able to pay with death the penalty that was imputed to Adam And Eve and all their descendants. That person was Jesus who was born without sin (He was God and human) and therefore was not excluded for paying for others.

I hope all this will help in understanding better the video below and I want to thank Mary Anna for her post.

Nando

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The Rapture on Oct 30, 2012? A possibility yes! a reader leaves a comment!

Thanks to Janet Herscu for the posts she send today in comments.

The possibilities that are being presented in these last days about the timing of the events for the Rapture and the start of the Tribulations are very exciting  to say the least.

The concepts involved are so complex that they lend themselves to a wide range of possibilities that are both based in science and the scriptures.

When you are hypothesizing about the causes of a shift in the earth axis, the resulting stresses on the earth mantle, the variations of the rotation of the earth and the changing of the times and seasons we are dealing with imponderables that are the sole purveyance of God.

If we are correct at seeing His divine hand at work it is because diligent human minds have labor hard and long in both the science and the scriptures that describe these events and have reached an educated conclusion.

Nando

The comment by JH:

We might as well get excited about the earth’s straightening. After all, it’s the Church’s future! So here is another article (not mine) on the same subject (straightening of the earth by 22-23 degrees with a resultant ‘loss’ of 22-23 days since the same rays shining on a certain spot on a tilted earth will be the SAME rays shining on a spot 22-23 degrees previous to that spot once the earth is straight…..thus a 22-23-day SEASONAL/CALENDAR change. This is why the 22 days between the 8th day SUCCOTH 2012 to Tues, Oct 30 deserve attention; because they are virtually ‘one and the same day when one subtracts the 22 days now and earth’s straightening will ‘eat’ those days up. Thus, the RAPTURE may be on the 8th day SUCCOTH (Shemini Atzeret) after all in this respect. It’s speculation, of course; but after Oct 30, I don’t see material worthy of further study.

A Bible Study by Jack Kelley

Jesus said to them (the Disciples), “I tell you the truth, at the renewal of all things, when the Son of Man sits on his glorious throne, you who have followed me will also sit on twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel. (Matt. 19:28)

He (Jesus) must remain in heaven until the time comes for God to restore everything, as he promised long ago through his holy prophets. (Acts 3:21)

He who was seated on the throne said, “I am making everything new.” Then He said, “It is done. I am the Alpha and the Omega, the Beginning and the End.” (Rev. 21:5-6)

The desert and the parched land will be glad; the wilderness will rejoice and blossom. Like the crocus, it will burst into bloom; it will rejoice greatly and shout for joy. The glory of Lebanon will be given to it, the splendor of Carmel and Sharon; they will see the glory of the LORD, the splendor of our God. (Isaiah 35:1-2)

The End times judgments will be devastating in the extreme, and the Lord warned that if He didn’t bring them to a close at the appointed time, not a single soul would survive (Matt. 24:22). But for the sake of the elect, He will bring them to a close and when He does the restoration will begin.

I believe one of the ancillary functions of the end times judgments will be to begin the process of returning Earth to the condition it was in just after the creation, as if the Great Tribulation is the demolition phase of the restoration. This is hinted at by phrases like “every island fled away and the mountains could not be found” (Rev. 16:20) and “there was no longer any sea” (Rev. 21:1).

Comparing verses like these with the return of long life spans indicated in Isaiah 65:20, I have concluded that Earth will once again become a single land mass surrounded by water, the way Gen. 1:9 described it. Scientists call this original land mass Pangea, and Genesis 10:25 makes mention of its division into today’s continents. We can see other evidence of how radically the Earth’s topography was changed during and after the Great Flood, and now it will be time to put things back the way they were. I think most of the present seas will either return to their underground origins or rise into the upper atmosphere to re-establish the water vapor canopy that once surrounded Earth (Gen. 1:6-7) and enabled the long pre-flood lifespans.

The mountains will be lowered, the sea floor elevated, and the continents rejoined at their seams. Streams and rivers will flow through lands that have been parched for thousands of years. The great desserts will become verdant plains again.

I will make rivers flow on barren heights, and springs within the valleys. I will turn the desert into pools of water, and the parched ground into springs. I will put in the desert the cedar and the acacia, the myrtle and the olive. I will set pines in the wasteland, the fir and the cypress together, so that people may see and know, may consider and understand, that the hand of the LORD has done this, that the Holy One of Israel has created it.(Isaiah 41:18-20)

The current tilt of the Earth’s axis causes extreme differences in the world’s weather and makes large areas uninhabitable. I believe this will be corrected at the time of the 2nd Coming. The axis will become upright again and the year shortened to its original 360 days. Earth will once again enjoy a world wide sub-tropical climate like it did before Adam lost it and the terrible effects of sin were loosed upon it. This is something the creation has been waiting for ever since.

The creation waits in eager expectation for the sons of God to be revealed. For the creation was subjected to frustration, not by its own choice, but by the will of the one who subjected it, in hope that the creation itself will be liberated from its bondage to decay and brought into the glorious freedom of the children of God. (Romans 8:19-21)

When the Lord Returns in glory the wait will be over, and soon afterward the creation will once again resemble a lush garden. He will make her deserts like Eden, her waste lands like the garden of the Lord (Isaiah 51:3)

Some people are troubled by all this because they’re so in love with the creation as it currently appears. I even read a book review recently whose author is asking God to be left behind at the rapture because she can’t imagine anything being more beautiful than this present Earth, not even Heaven. People like this are limited in their thinking. In the first place, they don’t stop to think that if the Earth is this beautiful while under a curse how much more so will it be when the curse is lifted and it’s restored to its original condition?

And second, they don’t realize that the Lord has spent the last 2,000 years “preparing a place for us” in His Father’s house (John 14:2-3). The Church will no longer call Earth home but will dwell with Him there. Do these folks really think that after the rapture, when we see all eternity spread out before us, we’ll be disappointed with our future and long to go back into this fallen creation? Is that what they think the Lord has in store for us?

But our focus here is the restoration of Planet Earth, where Israel will once again be the pre-eminent nation. One of the clues we get that the Kingdom Age on Earth features Israel and not the Gentile Nations, or even the Church, is that almost all the descriptive passages are in the Old Testament, and for the most part center around Israel.

From them we learn of the desert bursting into bloom (Isaiah 35:1-2), of the land being so fertile that before they can complete the harvest it will be time to begin planting again (Amos 9:13). Peace will flow like a river and the wealth of the nations like a flooding stream (Isaiah 66:12) In Jerusalem men and women of ripe old age will sit in streets filled with playing children (Zechariah 8:4-5). And in the country side, “Every man will sit under his own vine and under his own fig tree, and no one will make them afraid, for the LORD Almighty has spoken.” (Micah 4:4)

Peace will prevail in the animal kingdom as well. Predators and prey will live side by side, and their young will lie down together, all of them existing in perfect harmony with each other and with mankind again (Isaiah 11:6-8). This will be another reversal of a post-flood condition, when fear and dread of man fell upon all the beasts of the earth and the birds of the air (Gen. 9:2-3).

And so the time of restoration will have come, and in every way Earth will be like it was in the beginning. Where ever one goes there will be peace on Earth and good will toward men, like the angel Gabriel promised to the shepherds so long ago. The Lord Himself will rule, assisted by the Church.

The mountain of the LORD’s temple will be established as chief among the mountains; it will be raised above the hills, and all nations will stream to it. Many peoples will come and say, “Come, let us go up to the mountain of the LORD, to the house of the God of Jacob. He will teach us his ways, so that we may walk in his paths.”

The law (Torah) will go out from Zion, the word of the LORD from Jerusalem. He will judge between the nations and will settle disputes for many peoples. They will beat their swords into plowshares and their spears into pruning hooks. Nation will not take up sword against nation, nor will they train for war anymore. (Isaiah 2:2-4)

But like it was at the beginning, the seed of rebellion will still exist in the heart of natural man. Even though he’s been given every conceivable advantage in this, his last best chance to live in peace with God, within a generation or two that seed will begin to germinate as the children of Tribulation survivors come of age. Some will choose to follow their parents to the foot of the cross and receive their personal redemption. But with each generation an increasing number won’t. This will happen even though Satan will be bound, the Lord Himself will be their King, and God’s Law will be their law.

You see, there is no condition or circumstance that will allow natural man with his sin nature to live in peace with God. As the end of the Thousand Year Kingdom approaches, unbelievers will vastly out number believers again, especially among the nations. When Satan is released they will mount up as one and march across the breadth of the Earth to surround the camp of God’s people and the city He loves in a final attempt to kick the Lord off the planet. But fire from Heaven will devour them, and Satan will be captured again, this time to be thrown into the lake of fire forever. (Rev. 20:9-10)

And so for the seventh time since the creation, God will have entered into covenant with man in an attempt at coexistence. And for the seventh time all but a remnant will refuse, and the covenant will be broken and end in judgment. These seven attempts by God to live among His creation are called dispensations, or ages, and if this is a new idea for you here’s a brief description of each.

The Seven Dispensations

The first attempt has been called the Age of Innocence. Between the Creation and the Fall of Man God interacted freely and personally with man. Man was created immortal and while he had agency (the power of choice) he didn’t have a sin nature. God placed Adam and Eve in His garden and gave them only one restriction. But they violated this restriction and were expelled from the Garden. Adam, Eve, and the Serpent who beguiled them were all judged, the Creation was cursed, and sin entered the world.

Then came the Age of Conscience. From the Fall of Man to the Great Flood, God allowed man’s conscience to rule without Divine interference. Because of man’s newly acquired sin nature, the result of this was “the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually.” (Genesis 6:5) After repeated warnings, God destroyed all but 8 members of the Human race in the Great Flood.

Next there was the Age of Human Government which lasted from Noah’s Flood to the Tower of Babel. After the Flood, God allowed man to establish his first system of government. But the people disobeyed God’s commandment to go forth and replenish the Earth, setting about instead to build a great city and a tower to protect themselves from another flood. They also used the tower to study astrology, a corruption of the Gospel that God had written in the stars using the names of 12 constellations. So God gave each of the 70 families of man a unique language that other families weren’t able to understand. This caused confusion and distrust among the people and they drifted apart to be scattered through out the world, and God destroyed the tower.

The fourth attempt was called the Age of Promise. God set Abraham’s descendants apart as His Chosen People and promised Abraham and Sarah a son through whom He said He would bless the world. But they grew tired of waiting for Him, and they produced a son on their own, calling him Ishmael. Later, when God gave them Isaac, the son He had promised, Ishmael was sent away causing bad blood between Ishmael (Arabs) and Isaac (Jews) that continues to this day.

Number five was the Age of Law which lasted from Mt. Sinai to Pentecost. After God brought the Israelites out of Egypt, He gave Moses the 10 Commandments and offered the Jews the land He had promised to Abraham along with a life of peace and plenty if they obeyed His Law. After 2000 years of vacillating between obedience and rebellion that resulted in them rejecting the Messiah, God finally had enough, expelled them from their land, and dispersed them throughout the world. (But not forever. The Age of Law was interrupted seven years short of its allotted time while God created the Church. After the Rapture, the final 7 years, also known as Daniel’s 70th Week Israel will have one final chance to live in obedience to God and accept their Messiah.)

The Age of Grace, also known as The Church Age, was God’s sixth try. No longer requiring that righteousness be earned through obedience to the Law, God imputed His own righteousness to man by grace through faith in the completed work of the Lord Jesus, promising eternal blessing and a place in His own house to all who accept. It was the most outrageously lavish gift ever bestowed, free for the asking. But by the end of the Age of Grace most of humanity will have rejected His gift, choosing instead to live on their own terms, betting that either God doesn’t exist, or if He does He’ll allow them into His kingdom anyway. After removing the relative few who have accepted His gift so they’ll be safe with Him, He’ll punish the rest through the most severe time of judgment ever visited on Earth.

And finally there’s the Kingdom Age, number seven. This is the 1000 Year Reign of the Lord, also known as the Millennium, that we’ve been discussing. And like the previous six, it will end in failure and judgment. Seven attempts, seven failures, seven judgments. Enough is enough.

After the Millennium, God and man will enjoy a new beginning, called Eternity. We’re not given any information about this because the Bible effectively ends at the end of the Millennium. A careful reading shows that in Rev. 20, John skipped ahead after verse six to describe the final destinies of Satan and all unbelievers while he was on the subject. (Rev. 20:7-15) Then in Rev. 21:1-27 he went back to the beginning of the Millennium to show us the New Jerusalem, and in Rev. 22:1-6 gave us a glimpse of Millennial life on Earth. We know this because Rev. 21:1 is a direct quote from Isaiah 65:17 where the context is the Kingdom age in Israel and Rev. 22:1-6 is a summary of Ezekiel 47, also a millennial passage.

As part of the Church we’ll effectively have a head start on Eternity, as will resurrected believers from both Old Testament times and Daniel’s 70th Week. But we’ll have to wait at least until the rapture to see what it’s going to be like. All we know for now is that it’ll be the greatest adventure ever designed for mankind, and we’re at the head of the line.

Nando
This is the second comment submitted by JH<

Here’s an interesting article concerning the ‘straightening of the earth’ at the Lord’s Return:

The Pre-Flood 360-Day Calendar & the Second Coming

Copyright © Tim Warner, AnswersinRevelation.org

One of the most perplexing problems for Biblical chronologists is explaining the

calendar data given in Genesis 7-8. The flood began on the 17

th day of the 2nd month.

The ark rested on the 17

th day of the 7th month, five months to the day. Genesis describes

this period as 150 days, (Gen. 7:11,24, 8:3-4). Therefore, these five months on Noah’s

calendar consisted of exactly 30 days each, (30×5=150). Noah’s lunar months (30 days)

were about a half day longer than the present lunar months (29.53 days). If you

extrapolate Noah’s lunar calendar for the full 12 months of the year, it is apparent he

knew a 360 day lunar year, (30×12=360).

Noah’s calendar was different from both the present lunar calendar (354.53 days), and

present solar calendar (365.24 days). Something occurred about the time of the flood

that altered the calendar, making it necessary to add an intercalary month every 2 or 3

years to keep the lunar calendar in sync with the seasons. I have not previously heard

an adequate explanation that could account for the apparent separation of the lunar –

solar year from the pre-flood calendar. In this paper I will present a hypothesis which

may answer this question. Please keep in mind that this is only a hypothesis, and is

subject to correction if the mathematical data proves it false.

No Solar Year Before the Flood

The earth’s tilt on its axis is what gives us the seasons. If the earth’s axis was

perpendicular to the ecliptic, (0 degree tilt), there would be no seasons at all, and no

such thing as a “solar year.” The earth’s temperature at each latitude would be constant

year round. The weather would be extremely mild and non-violent. With no seasons

and a very mild, stable climate, crops could be planted and harvested year round. Food

storage would be completely unnecessary. Remember, people prior to the flood were

vegetarians, (cf. Gen. 1:29-30 & 9:1-4). Around the 30 – 40 degree latitudes, every day

would be comfortable, perhaps in the mid 60s to mid 70s year round. Remember, Adam

and Eve were naked prior to the fall, with absolutely no provision for warm clothing in

winter.

With no inclination of the earth’s axis, there would be no such thing as a “solar year”

because no seasonal changes would occur to measure it by. The days would not get

longer and shorter throughout the year. The sun would not appear to drift in its ark

across the sky, but would follow precisely the same path year round.

2

That the four seasons, with their yearly oscillations of cold and heat, did not exist before

the flood is supported by the Genesis data.

1 There is no mention of any of the four

seasons, weather, changing climate, or changing temperature until the flood.

Immediately after the flood, God introduced the four seasons to Noah, characterizing

them by the terms, “cold” and “heat.”

Gen 8:20-22 LXX

20 And Noe built an altar to the Lord, and took of all clean beasts, and of all clean birds,

and offered a whole burnt–offering upon the altar.

21 And the Lord God smelled a smell of sweetness, and the Lord God having considered,

said, I will not any more curse the earth, because of the works of men, because the

imagination of man is intently bent upon evil things from his youth, I will not therefore

any more smite all living flesh as I have done.

22 All the days of the earth,

seed and harvest, cold and heat, summer and spring,

shall not cease by day or night

.

The “curse” on the ground in verse 21, and “smiting” the earth, both refer to what God

did to the earth on account of the sin of mankind in Noah’s day. Verse 22 makes no

sense in this context unless the four seasons described were just being introduced for

the first time. Had they been occurring all along, what would be the point of telling

Noah that the four seasons would continue perpetually? The only logical reason for

making such a statement was to let Noah know that a new situation had arisen, the

earth having four seasons varying from cold to hot. Noah should expect this to be

permanent, not just a temporary aberration from the flood. Therefore, the only

reasonable explanation of this passage from a scientific point of view is that the earth

tilted on its axis, from 0 degrees prior to the flood, to its present 23.5 degrees.

1

Answers in Genesis claims that Christians should not use the argument that the earth’s axis was not tilted before the flood,

http://www.answersingenesis.org/get-answers/topic/arguments-we-dont-use

. Their stated reason is not scientific, but textual.

“Genesis 1:14 reveals seasons did exist prior to the Flood.”

While AiG’s work in science is first rate, and we highly recommend it, their

interpretation of this passage is wrong. The word “seasons” in Genesis 1:14 is “moedh.” It has nothing to do with the four seasons

(winter, spring, fall, and summer). It means “appointed time,” (Gen. 17:21; 18:14; 21:2; Ex. 9:5). In the Torah, it almost always refers

to the Jewish feast days that were calculated by the new moon (Ex. 13:10; 23:15; Lev. 23:2,4; 23:37,44; Num. 9:2-3,7,13; 10:10; 15:3; 28:2;

29:39; Deut. 16:6; 31:10). In fact, Psalm 104:19 states plainly that God

“appointed the moon for seasons” (moedh). The moon has nothing

to do with spring, summer, fall, and winter. It has everything to do with the lunar calendar, by which all the feasts were calculated.

This Hebrew word is never used in the Torah to refer to any of the four seasons. The point of Genesis 1:14 was that the heavenly

bodies were given partly for calculating the feasts of the Lord (seasons), by keeping a lunar calendar. The International Standard

Bible Encyclopedia states:

“The sun and moon were appointed “to give light upon the earth” and “for signs,” and “for days and years.” They

were also appointed “for seasons” (mo’ adhim), i.e. “appointed assemblies.” These seasons were not primarily such seasons as the progress of the

year brings forth in the form of changes of weather or of the condition of vegetation; they were seasons for worship. The word mo’edh occurs some

219 times; in 149 it is translated “congregation,” and in about 50 other instances by “solemn assembly” or some equivalent expression. Thus

before ever man was created, God had provided for him times to worship and had appointed two great lights of heaven to serve as signals to call to

it.”

The objection of Answers in Genesis to this theory based on the Genesis passage is unfounded.

3

The flood and the confounding of the languages are found in ancient pagan

mythologies. That many cultures have such legends is powerful evidence that the

events in the Bible really took place, even though pagans greatly embellished them.

Ancient civilizations invented absurd legends of gods interacting with the creation in

order to explain nature as they observed it. The ancient Greeks had a legend of a

previous golden age with no change of seasons, where crops grew in abundance year

round. In this previous age, men did not grow old. This sounds remarkably similar to

the biblical account of the great ages reached by men before the flood.

“Virgo is the second-largest constellation in the sky, exceeded only by the much fainter

Hydra. The Greeks called the constellation Parthenos. She is usually identified as Dike,

goddess of justice, who was daughter of Zeus and Themis; … Dike was supposed to have

lived on Earth in the Golden Age of mankind, when Cronus ruled Olympus. It was a

time of peace and happiness,

a season of perennial spring when food grew without

cultivation

and humans never grew old. Men lived like the gods, not knowing work,

sorrow, crime or war. Dike moved among them, dispensing wisdom and justice.

“Then, when Zeus overthrew his father Cronus on Olympus, the Silver Age began,

inferior to the age that had just passed. In the Silver Age,

Zeus shortened springtime

and introduced the yearly cycle of seasons

. Humans in this age became quarrelsome

and ceased to honour the gods. Dike longed for the idyllic days gone by. She assembled

the human race and spoke sternly to them for forsaking the ideals of their ancestors.

‘Worse is to come’, she warned them. Then she spread her wings and took refuge in the

mountains, turning her back on mankind.”

2

That the seasons began at the time of the flood is further supported by an ancient Jewish

tradition contained in the Book of Jubilees, a Jewish apocryphal work written about

200BC. According to this tradition, Noah was the first to inaugurate four festivals to

mark the four seasons.

“And on the new moon of the first month, and on the new moon of the fourth month, and

on the new moon of the seventh month, and on the new moon of the tenth month are the

days of remembrance, and the days of the seasons in the four divisions of the year. These

are written and ordained as a testimony for ever. And Noah ordained them for himself as

feasts for the generations for ever, so that they have become thereby a memorial unto

him.”

3

2

Ridpath, Ian, Star Tales; chapter 3; Virgo. http://www.ianridpath.com/startales/virgo.htm. Notice also the similarity to Revelation

12, the woman clothed with the sun, and moon under her feet, who is given two great wings and flies into the wilderness.

3

Book of Jubilees, VI, 23-24

4

The Sumerians (the civilization that built the tower of Babel) used a 360 day calendar

with 12 months of 30 days.

4 However, the calendar was corrected to the solar year by

adding 5 extra days at the end of each year. The actual use of a 360 day calendar after

the flood can easily be explained if Noah and his sons only knew of a 360 day year prior

to the flood. There is no apparent reason for anyone to use a 360 day calendar because it

does not agree with either the solar year (365 days) or lunar year (354 days).

The Shortened Lunar Year

As was pointed out previously, the pre-flood lunar month was 30 days, and the lunar

year was 360 days. This is established by the text. The tilting of the earth on its axis

explains how the seasons began, and consequently made it necessary to keep a 365.24

day solar calendar for the agricultural cycle.

If this theory is correct, we would expect the tilting of the earth on its axis to also

explain the shortening of the lunar month from 30 days to 29.5 days, (making the lunar

year 354.37 days instead of 360 days). If the same physical change (tilting the earth’s

axis) also shortens the lunar year, this explanation becomes highly probable.

What would it take to shorten the number of days in a lunar month that involves a

physical change to the earth only? The only possibility is to slow the earth’s rotation.

Since the moon’s revolutions do not change, a slowing of the earth’s rotation would

make the days slightly longer, and there would be slightly fewer days in a single lunar

cycle. Therefore, for this theory to work, the effect of tilting the earth’s axis must also

slow its rotation.

If God disrupted the earth’s tilt by applying an outside force, two important

phenomena would occur. First, the shift of the earth’s axis would generate tremendous

turbulence and internal friction within the earth’s molten core as it struggled to reorient

to a different angle of rotation. The net effect of this internal friction would be a

significant braking of the earth’s speed of rotation until the molten core realigned itself

to the new axis. The energy of the core’s momentum would be converted to heat.

The second effect from tilting the earth’s axis concerns the earth’s crust. We know from

Genesis that the earth originally had only one super continent, and one super ocean.

Then God said, ‘Let the waters below the heavens be gathered into one place, and let the dry

land appear’; and it was so.”

5 Tilting the spinning earth would create an enormous

gyroscopic torque effect on the earth’s crust, tearing this super continent apart.

4

Calendars through the Ages, http://www.webexhibits.org/calendars/calendar-ancient.html

5

Gen 1:9 NASB

5

John Baumgardner, PhD., of Los Alamos National Laboratory, has done pioneering

work with computer models demonstrating how catastrophic plate tectonics accounts

for the present state of the earth, and Noah’s flood.

6 Yet, his theory lacks a specific

trigger for the thermal runaway necessary to begin the subduction process.

7 The

gyroscopic torque effect on the earth’s crust, and enormous heat generated by the

shifting core, could easily provide such a trigger. A chain reaction of rapid continental

shifting would result. The law of conservation of energy, (first law of thermodynamics),

requires that the enormous heat energy in Baumgardner’s model must have been

converted from kinetic energy. The kinetic energy of the earth’s rotation being

converted to heat therefore provides a significant braking effect on the earth’s rotation.

The slower rotation would make for slightly longer days and nights. The moon’s cycles

and phases would not change. But longer days mean slightly fewer days would elapse

during a single lunar cycle. Consequently, the lunar month went from 30 days to 29.5

days. The lunar year went from 360 days (12 lunar months) to 354.37 days per lunar

year. This is the direct result of a decreased rotation speed of the earth.

Once the seasons began after the flood, it quickly became necessary to correct the lunar

calendar every 2 or 3 years by adding an intercalary month to synchronize it with the

new seasons for agricultural purposes.

The Future Result of the Shift in the Earth’s Axis

Isaiah indicates that the earth’s axis will once again be greatly disturbed just prior to

Jesus’ return. There is currently a slight wobble in the earth’s rotation. However, this

wobble will apparently become much faster and much greater in magnitude. Below is

the LXX rendering of Isaiah 24:18-20, with my literal translation following.

Isaiah 24:18b-20 LXX

6

Baumgardner, John, PhD, CATASTROPHIC PLATE TECTONICS: THE PHYSICS BEHIND THE GENESIS FLOOD;

http://www.globalflood.org/papers/2003ICCcpt.html

7

In the same article, Baumgardner explains the lack of a specific trigger as follows: “What about the triggering mechanism for the

runaway of the mantle’s boundary layers? In my opinion the simplest possibility is that the initial state from which the runaway

emerged was built into the Earth as God originally formed it. In fact, I believe this almost certainly had to have been the case. It is

also plausible that the Earth’s mantle had been grinding inexorably toward catastrophe during all the 1650 or so years from when

Adam disobeyed until “all the fountains of the great deep were broken up,” such that no separate trigger immediately prior to the

Flood event itself was even necessary. For lack of any more specific information about how the cataclysm was triggered, I

personally prefer this simple hypothesis.”

6

Isaiah 24:18b-20 Literal Translation

18… For

windows from heaven were opened, and the foundations of the earth

shall be shaken

.

19 By disturbance the earth

shall be disturbed, and by perplexity the earth shall be

perplexed

.

20 It

has tilted, and the earth shall wobble like a storehouse, like one intoxicated and

dizzy, and it

shall fall and not be able to rise up. For lawlessness shall grow strong

upon it.

Note the changes in verb tense. The clause,

“windows from heaven were opened” in verse

18 clearly refers to the Genesis account of Noah’s flood.

8 The ultimate consequence will

be the future shaking of the foundations of the earth.

There is a parallel structure to these verses. Verses 18-19 are parallel to verse 20. In both,

the past event of the flood is mentioned first:

“windows of heaven were opened” and “[the

earth] has tilted.”

The future result follows in both: “the foundations of the earth shall be

shaken”

and “the earth shall wobble …like one intoxicated and dizzy.”

Now, let’s consider another critical prophecy, this time from Psalm 102:25-26. This

passage was quoted in Hebrews 1:10-12 verbatim from the LXX. Below is the LXX

rendering followed by my literal translation.

Psalm 102:25-26 (Hebrews 1:10-12) Literal Translation

25 At the beginning, You, Lord, laid the foundation of the earth, and the heavens are the

works of Your hands.

26 They shall self-destruct, yet You remain. And all, like a garment, shall become aged.

And as a thrown around garment You shall whirl them, and they shall be altered.

The verb rendered “self-destruct” is in the middle voice, meaning the destruction is

performed by the created bodies upon themselves. However, the verb rendered,

“become aged” is in the passive voice. This indicates that the created bodies are passive

in their aging and obvious decay. Finally, note the curious language of verse 26. Two

8

Genesis 7:11

7

different words for “garment” are used. When speaking of growing old, the normal

word for garment is used. However, when God gets involved, the word for “garment”

refers to a cloak that is thrown around the body. The word literally means,

“something

thrown around.”

That is, a cape or cloak that one spins to one side while its momentum

brings it around the back to the other side. This strongly implies an accelerated

spinning of the heavenly bodies. Additionally, the clause,

“You shall whirl them,” clearly

has this idea in view.

From this passage we see that the bodies of our solar system will deteriorate and wind

down. At some point things will become unstable and the system will begin to selfdestruct.

The stable motions will become chaotic. This is a perfect description of the

violent “wobble” of the earth on its axis found in Isaiah 24. Finally, when God steps in

at the second coming of Jesus, He will correct the chaos, and spin the created bodies,

altering (and correcting) their motion. This is, of course, what is meant by

“the new

heavens and new earth”

mentioned by Isaiah (65-66) and Peter (2 Peter 3), which will

occur at the second coming of Jesus.

This predicted violent wobble in the earth’s axis explains all of Jesus’ predictions of

world-wide catastrophes immediately prior to His second coming. Consider the

following amazing prophecy of Jesus, all of which would result from the violent wobble

of the earth on its axis prophesied by Isaiah.

Luke 21:11-12, 25-33 NKJV

11 And

there will be great earthquakes in various places, and famines and

pestilences;

and there will be fearful sights and great signs from heaven. …

25 And

there will be signs in the sun, in the moon, and in the stars; and on the

earth distress of nations, with perplexity,

the sea and the waves roaring; 26 men’s

hearts failing them from fear and the expectation of those things which are coming on the

earth, for

the powers of the heavens will be shaken. 27 Then they will see the Son of

Man coming in a cloud with power and great glory. 28 Now

when these things begin

to happen

, look up and lift up your heads, because your redemption draws near.”

29 Then He spoke to them a parable: “Look at the fig tree, and all the trees. 30 When they

are already budding, you see and know for yourselves that summer is now near. 31 So

you also,

when you see these things happening, know that the kingdom of God is near.

32 Assuredly, I say to you, this generation will by no means pass away till all things take

place. 33 Heaven and earth will pass away, but My words will by no means pass away.

The observable phenomenon in the heavens will be that the sun, moon, planets, and

stars will no longer follow their prescribed paths across the sky. The earthquakes and

seas roaring will result from the erratic stresses on the earth from the wobble of its axis

Nando

JUNE 27, 2012 Beautiful Guitar Music

This is a very good piece.

Nando

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Nando

Written by twelvebooks

June 27, 2012 at 11:21 am

Posted in Uncategorized

Steven King (16 Apr 2011) “Re: Nando:Nando (14 Apr 2012) “Sumatra Earthquakes of 8.6 and 8.2 magnitude related to #11 and the 188 earthquake cycle?””

Thank you for the two posts you gave us. It is with great joy that I see the events of the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ coming to pass at an accelerated pace. Your videos are quite lengthy and I will see them tomorrow.

Thank you for sharing them!

http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/apr2012/stevenk416-3.htm

Steven King (16 Apr 2011)
“Re: Nando:Nando (14 Apr 2012) “Sumatra Earthquakes of 8.6 and 8.2 magnitude related to #11 and the 188 earthquake cycle?””


Hi Doves,
RE: Nando:Nando (14 Apr 2012) “Sumatra Earthquakes of 8.6 and 8.2 magnitude related to #11 and the 188 earthquake cycle?”
http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/apr2012/nando414.htm
I sent in an earlier post tying together the 188 Day cycle it’s design which looks like the temple of Jerusalem and also sharing how many cities around the world through archetiture are pointing not only to the  cycle but it’s representation of the Temple in Jerusalem. The video didn’t make the cut two days ago perhaps this one will be posted. (April 9th 2012)
http://tinyurl.com/SecretsOfTheFallenAngels
“THE SECRET ARCHITECTURE OF THE FALLEN ANGELS”
Please click on this link to get the video and many references from David Flynn about 2012/2013 on the Hebrew calendar and also the 188 pattern cycle.
The videos is quite LONG but builds up and fills in alot of holes to the mystery architecture pattern, designs of pyramid, triangles, pentagon, octagon , retangles and the symetry of God’s universe. The cities of San Francisco, Washington DC , Rome, London, Paris ,  are referenced many times with the same design as the the Temple in Jerusalem.
ybic,
Steven King
Jesus is coming soon!
Come join and Visit our Rapture Forum!
http://www.rapturebibleprophecyforum.com
Email: stevensandiego@ymail.com

Nando

Jan 19, 2012 Drill by USA and Israel was suspended by Netanyahu

The article below gives us an indication of the nearness that an armed conflict is from happening in the middle east with Iran.

Nando

http://www.debka.com/article/21656/

Joint US-Israel drill called off by Netanyahu, to Washington’s surprise
DEBKAfileExclusive Report January 17, 2012, 12:36 PM (GMT+02:00)

Tags:  Israel   US   war exercise   Iran nuclear   Binyamin Netanyahu 
Israeli Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu

debkafile’s sources disclose exclusively that, contrary to recent reports published in Washington, Jerusalem – and this site too – it was Israel Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu, not the Obama administration, who decided to call off the biggest ever joint US-Israeli military exercise Austere Challenge 12 scheduled for April 2012.
Washington was taken aback by the decision. It was perceived as a mark of Israel’s disapproval for the administration’s apparent hesitancy in going through with the only tough sanctions with any chance of working against Iran’s nuclear weapon program: penalizing its central bank and blocking payments for its petroleum exports.
This was the first time Israel had ever postponed a joint military exercise; it generated a seismic moment in relations between the US and Israel at a time when Iran has never been so close to producing a nuclear weapon.

This week, Netanyahu further orchestrated a series of uncharacteristically critical statements by senior ministers: Deputy Prime Minister Moshe Yaalon called the Obama administration “hesitant” (Jan. 15), after which Foreign Minister Avigdor Lieberman urged the Americans to “move from words to deeds” (Jan 16).
The underlying message was that the Israeli government felt free to attack Iran’s nuclear sites on its own if necessary and at a time of its choosing.
debkafile’s sources report that Netanyahu decided on this extreme course after careful consideration when he judged the Obama administration’s resolve to preempt a nuclear Iran to be flagging, as indicated by four omissions:

1. Washington has taken no action against Iran’s capture of the RQ-170 stealth drone on Dec. 4 more than a month after the event, and not even pressed President Obama’s demand of Dec. 12 for the drone’s return.
Tehran, for its part, continues to make hay from the event: This week, our Iranian sources report, the Islamic Republic circulated a new computer game called “Down the RQ-170.”  Players assemble the drone from the components shown on their screens and then launch it for attacks on America.

2.  Silence from Washington also greeted the start of 20-percent grade uranium enrichment at the underground Fordo facility near Qom when it was announced Jan. 9. Last November, Defense Minister Ehud Barak warned in two US TV interviews (Nov. 17 and 22) that as soon as the Fordo facility went on stream, Iran would start whisking the rest of its nuclear facilities into underground bunkers, out of reach and sight of US and Israeli surveillance.
Barak made it clear at the time that Israel could not live with this development; therefore, the Netanyahu government believes Israel’s credibility is now at stake.
3.  Exactly three weeks ago, on Jan. 3 Lt. Gen. Ataollah Salehi, Iran’s Army chief, announced that the aircraft carrier USS Stennis and other “enemy ships” would henceforth be barred from entering the Persian Gulf through the Strait of Hormuz . Yet since then, no US carrier has put this threat to the test by attempting a crossing. Tehran has been left to crow.
4.  Even after approving sanctions on Iran’s central bank and energy industry, the White House announced they would be introduced in stages in the course of the year. According to Israeli’s calculus, another six months free of stiff penalties will give Iran respite for bringing its nuclear weapon program to a dangerous and irreversible level.

Nando

Written by twelvebooks

January 19, 2012 at 1:36 pm

Nov 17, 2011 Time Travelers, the Rapture, UFO’s, Nephilins and many other subjects a video with Mr. Gary Stearman

It always is fascinating and enlighten to visit the site http://www.prophecyinthenews.com and listen to Mr. Gary Stearman and all the guests he brings to the program.

In this link below he is with Mr. Bob Ulrich discussing his most resent book Time Travelers of the Bible and many other subjects of a instructional nature.

If you are not familiar with these subjects and want to dig more into them follow the advise he gives at the end of the video. He challenges you to start a personal and intimate knowledge of the Lord Jesus Christ who is the creator of time and the Universe.

In this interview he mentions a subject that is thought in University Physics as one of the laws of thermodynamics called Entropy.

To me this law ( a physics law is always occurring and has no exception) is intimately related to time. In my opinion neither can exist without the other.

Time we are very familiar with but have a very hard time understanding the properties of it, entropy is a subject that many people are unfamiliar with. From my long ago courses in physics and engineering thermodynamics I was introduced to its meaning.

It was not until latter in time in my life that with the knowledge of the word of God written in the Bible that I realised where this law has its very beginning and I came to understand have it is related to time and eternity.

Entropy in a very basic definition that anyone can understand is a law that states that all matter in the Universe tries to break down to its most simple elements. Without using scientific terms it means that every piece of matter is dying, rusting, dissolving or breaking apart. This happens within the parameters of time. Time works in a direct relationship with entropy which increases its effects with time.

Time exist only when there is a conscious living intelligence to perceive it with this thought I can conclude that time started when the angels were created and started perceiving their existence and interaction with God and other angels.

We know from the Bible that some of these angels rebelled against God. This rebellion had a consequence that is similar to entropy but in my opinion not equal. It brought the immediate transformation of these spiritual beings into an awareness of what it meant to be separated from God and  their loss of the Holiness with which they were created. If the Holiness of God is manifested by light, they began to loose it. In this manner of diminishing it resembles entropy.

Entropy was created by God a little times after this rebellion of the fallen angels took place. The creation of the Universe and both Adam and Eve were in existence but they were of time but not of the relationship of time to their existence.

These first two humans lived in a material world, matter had been created by God from all the infinite energy and light that he possesses and this matter was divided in living and non living, organic or inorganic and the living non humans possessed an intelligence but lacked a spirit which man had. The Universe was given an order and a set of rules that were ingrained in their basic composition.

Going back to Adam and Eve they were completely living in a perfect environment with their will able to lead them in any way they so desired. but they were given only one constrain to their freedom and instructed by God  as to what this constrain was. do not eat of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil the story is printed below. When Adam and Eve ate the fruit creation was changed and entropy was introduced as a curse.

The Bible record:

http://niv.scripturetext.com/genesis/3.htm

4This is the account of the heavens and the earth when they were created.

When the Lord God made the earth and the heavens— 5and no shrub of the field had yet appeared on the earthb and no plant of the field had yet sprung up, for the Lord God had not sent rain on the earthc and there was no man to work the ground, 6but streamsd came up from the earth and watered the whole surface of the ground— 7the Lord God formed the mane from the dust of the ground and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life, and the man became a living being.

8Now the Lord God had planted a garden in the east, in Eden; and there he put the man he had formed. 9And the Lord God made all kinds of trees grow out of the ground—trees that were pleasing to the eye and good for food. In the middle of the garden were the tree of life and the tree of the knowledge of good and evil.

10A river watering the garden flowed from Eden; from there it was separated into four headwaters. 11The name of the first is the Pishon; it winds through the entire land of Havilah, where there is gold. 12(The gold of that land is good; aromatic resinf and onyx are also there.) 13The name of the second river is the Gihon; it winds through the entire land of Cush.g 14The name of the third river is the Tigris; it runs along the east side of Asshur. And the fourth river is the Euphrates.

15The Lord God took the man and put him in the Garden of Eden to work it and take care of it. 16And the Lord God commanded the man, “You are free to eat from any tree in the garden; 17but you must not eat from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, for when you eat of it you will surely die.”

18The Lord God said, “It is not good for the man to be alone. I will make a helper suitable for him.”

19Now the Lord God had formed out of the ground all the beasts of the field and all the birds of the air. He brought them to the man to see what he would name them; and whatever the man called each living creature, that was its name. 20So the man gave names to all the livestock, the birds of the air and all the beasts of the field.

But for Adamh no suitable helper was found. 21So the Lord God caused the man to fall into a deep sleep; and while he was sleeping, he took one of the man’s ribsi and closed up the place with flesh. 22Then the Lord God made a woman from the ribj he had taken out of the man, and he brought her to the man.

23The man said,

“This is now bone of my bones

and flesh of my flesh;

she shall be called ‘woman,k

for she was taken out of man.”

24For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and they will become one flesh.

25The man and his wife were both naked, and they felt no shame.

 

The Fall of Man

1Now the serpent was more crafty than any of the wild animals the Lord God had made. He said to the woman, “Did God really say, ‘You must not eat from any tree in the garden’?”

2The woman said to the serpent, “We may eat fruit from the trees in the garden, 3but God did say, ‘You must not eat fruit from the tree that is in the middle of the garden, and you must not touch it, or you will die.’”

4“You will not surely die,” the serpent said to the woman. 5“For God knows that when you eat of it your eyes will be opened, and you will be like God, knowing good and evil.”

6When the woman saw that the fruit of the tree was good for food and pleasing to the eye, and also desirable for gaining wisdom, she took some and ate it. She also gave some to her husband, who was with her, and he ate it. 7Then the eyes of both of them were opened, and they realized they were naked; so they sewed fig leaves together and made coverings for themselves.

8Then the man and his wife heard the sound of the Lord God as he was walking in the garden in the cool of the day, and they hid from the Lord God among the trees of the garden. 9But the Lord God called to the man, “Where are you?”

10He answered, “I heard you in the garden, and I was afraid because I was naked; so I hid.”

11And he said, “Who told you that you were naked? Have you eaten from the tree that I commanded you not to eat from?”

12The man said, “The woman you put here with me—she gave me some fruit from the tree, and I ate it.”

13Then the Lord God said to the woman, “What is this you have done?”

The woman said, “The serpent deceived me, and I ate.”

14So the Lord God said to the serpent, “Because you have done this,

“Cursed are you above all the livestock

and all the wild animals!

You will crawl on your belly

and you will eat dust

all the days of your life.

15And I will put enmity

between you and the woman,

and between your offspringa and hers;

he will crushb your head,

and you will strike his heel.”

16To the woman he said,

“I will greatly increase your pains in childbearing;

with pain you will give birth to children.

Your desire will be for your husband,

and he will rule over you.”

17To Adam he said, “Because you listened to your wife and ate from the tree about which I commanded you, ‘You must not eat of it,’

“Cursed is the ground because of you;

through painful toil you will eat of it

all the days of your life.

18It will produce thorns and thistles for you,

and you will eat the plants of the field.

19By the sweat of your brow

you will eat your food

until you return to the ground,

since from it you were taken;

for dust you are

and to dust you will return.”

20Adamc named his wife Eve,d because she would become the mother of all the living.

21The Lord God made garments of skin for Adam and his wife and clothed them. 22And the Lord God said, “The man has now become like one of us, knowing good and evil. He must not be allowed to reach out his hand and take also from the tree of life and eat, and live forever.” 23So the Lord God banished him from the Garden of Eden to work the ground from which he had been taken. 24After he drove the man out, he placed on the east sidee of the Garden of Eden cherubim and a flaming sword flashing back and forth to guard the way to the tree of life.

Nando
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Nando

Written by twelvebooks

November 17, 2011 at 11:55 pm