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June 30, 2015 The danger of mocking God

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God has always been the ruler and King of the Nations of the world but in His wisdom He has aloud Satan to rule under His authority the Kingdoms of this world ever since the fall of men. This rule of Satan is not absolute as the Holy Spirit opposes evil and acts through the church to do its work.

As the time of the end to Satan’s rule (6,000 years since Adam) comes to its close we see the hand of God easing its grip and permitting evil to gain the upper hand until the mystery of lawlessness or iniquity is destroyed forever.

Satan will be allowed to take full control of all the kingdoms of the world during the seven years of the soon here Apocalypse. His delusion of winning this epic millennial battle will be reinforced as he sees the fruit of this long effort appear to bear fruit. Christians are killed in masses in the middle east and persecuted elsewhere. It is ironic that some denominations and amilenialist belief that the church will conquer evil and be the instrument that brings the kingdom promised by God, thus taking the glory that belongs to Jesus Christ only. It is He Jesus who is given the scroll of the seven seals and is He alone who controls the destiny of the Universe and its ruler-ship.

From day one of the Tribulation we see the two witnesses giving the rebellious world a testimony of the truth of salvation and the evil of the Antichrist. Soon after God seals 144,000 descendants of Israel to be His priests and proclaim the message of the coming Kingdom of God. In His mercy the world is not left without a testimony of the true ruler of the Universe.

Sin is prevalent in all of us and when people of God sin and they repent the blood of Jesus blots away the sin as if it never existed. Believers who abide in sin suffer chastisement and correction to correct their behavior. When non believers dwell in sin they exhibit judgment and punishment. When nations go against the word of God such nations exhibit judgment or destruction.

An article by Dan Payne in Rapture Ready illustrates these points further and more precisely.

Nando

http://www.raptureready.com/soap2/payne49.html

Thou Bald Head

By Dan Payne

“Then he went up from there to Bethel; and as he was going up the road, some youths came from the city and mocked him, and said to him, ‘Go up, you bald head! Go up, you bald head!’ So he turned around and looked at them, and pronounced a curse on them in the name of the Lord. And two female bears came out of the woods and mauled forty-two of the youths” (2 Kings 2:23-24).

When I was younger I used to think that those youths suffered a very harsh punishment just for the crime of mocking an old man. Well as you already know, they suffered very swift and severe consequences for publicly blaspheming God Almighty as represented by His prophet Elisha.

In the verses just prior to the verses quoted above, Elisha made the emphatic statement: “Thus says the Lord,” after he brought healing to the water source of the city of Jericho.

Everyone in ancient Israel knew beyond the shadow of a doubt that the beloved prophet Elisha represented God’s presence on earth at that time. Even the elders and kings would tremble when one of God’s prophets came to visit them:

“And Samuel did that which the Lord spake, and came to Bethlehem. And the elders of the town trembled at his coming” (1 Samuel 16:4a).

The sons of the prophets had just bowed down before Elisha before he cast salt into the waters of Jericho:

“Now when the sons of the prophets who were from Jericho saw him, they said, ‘The spirit of Elijah rests on Elisha.’ And they came to meet him, and bowed to the ground before him” (2 Kings 2:15).

When those youths mocked Elisha they were mocking God Almighty in full view of the public. They committed full public blasphemy against the God of Israel.

Well just fast-forward to today and we all know full well who represents the presence of the God of the Bible on this earth in human form: The members of the true Church who maintain the testimony of Jesus Christ within whom His Holy Spirit dwells.

The world knows full well that all who maintain the testimony of Jesus Christ as their Messiah and Savior are worshiping the true God. If you want to know how you can prove this concept, just look at how many times those who claim to represent the God of the Bible also say that Jesus Christ in the only way to salvation.

Many may quote Bible verses and mention the Name of Jesus here and there but if they don’t unashamedly and proudly declare that Jesus Christ is “the way, the truth, and the life” (John 14:6), then they are false teachers, preachers, and politicians.

They condemn themselves as false because they claim to represent the God of the Bible while at the same time they deny Jesus Christ as the Messiah and the only way to salvation.

That means that the voices of those who stand alone against the vile immorality of this country while maintaining their testimony of Jesus represent the voice of God Almighty Himself. The atheists, the gays, and all the liberals know that we who stand alone on the Word of God represent the real Creator God. The White House and the Supreme Court know it, too.

When they openly and publicly condemn and mock the true Church, they are in full knowledge that they are publicly mocking God to His face.

The farther mankind moves away from respect of the morality of the Word of God, the closer they move toward fitting the description of Romans chapter 1.

“For this reason God gave them up to vile passions. For even their women exchanged the natural use for what is against nature. Likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust for one another, men with men committing what is shameful, and receiving in themselves the penalty of their error which was due. And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a debased mind, to do those things which are not fitting” (Romans 1:26-28).

And they are also moving closer toward the judgment that is also described in Romans Chapter 1:8 “For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who suppress the truth in unrighteousness.”

Just like Elisha, we who are few in number but yet speak out for the truth of God and the Bible against infanticide, against sodomy, and in full support of the nation of Israel say a collective: “Thus says the Lord.”

In light of the “decisions” of the week of June 26th, 2015, and in light of God’s track record of not letting those who openly blaspheme His Word go unpunished, I’m convinced that an exceedingly great shaking is about to tremble not only across America, but also across the entire planet.

I pray that the Father has compassion and mercy on those of us left who still maintain our testimony of His beloved Son Jesus Christ as our Savior. May we humbly let our lights shine before men until we are taken home.

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June 29, 2015 Is September 2015 a month of fulfilled destiny for mankind?

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Pastor JD Faraq delivers a profound sermon on July 21, 2015 about the convergence of prophecy for the coming month of September. He has compiled a series of prophetic indicators that are coming to pass in this prophetic month.

This month brings the fall feasts of the Lord that start on the 13-14 with Rosh Hashanah and follows 10 days latter with Yom Kippur on the 23 and finally on the 28 th Sukkot.

Some of the things mentioned are the tetrad of blood moon eclipses that end in Sept 28 with a Super moon eclipse and start with a solar eclipse on September 13 Rosh Hashanah. The end of the Shemitah year 2014-2015 on Elul 29 (Sept 13) and the start of the Jubilee year on Yom Kippur September 23. The end of the negotiations for the nuclear treaty with Iran that is due tomorrow and the approval of Homosexual marriage on June 26  are also indicators of the prophetic times we are in.

As is his custom he talks about the nearness of the Rapture and gives an exhortation to those who do not know Jesus to embrace His love and salvation before the Rapture.

Thanks to BG Ellis for his link to the video

Nando

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June 27, 2015 Is the West and America the Rome of the Statue of the Prophet Daniel?

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Satan has identified the West and America as Rome and he is using Islam which is 100 % under his control to bring about the Antichrist to power. Rome is the last empire of the statue depicted in the book of Daniel and as a consequence it will be the empire that will bring the Antichrist to power.

Nando

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June 3, 2015 Obama Announces he is the Antichrist or rider of the first horse (white) of the Apocalypse

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Thanks to the post by Mr. Ron Reese we can see Mr. Obama, Mr. Biden, Mr. Jack Lew and other not identified persons in this carefully orchestrated picture with props that tell a very powerful message of who he believes he is and the power he has to bring this fact to bear.

The picture was taken in the Oval Office of the White House and it was meant to convey a very important message to all of Obama’s supporters and to his enemies as well.

The first message is delivered by the throne made of swords he is sitting on. I searched the internet and found the information on this throne as meant to be the swords of all his defeated enemies, so in the throne is the statement that he will destroy all who oppose him. I question those who may dismiss this as why a president of the USA is sitting on a throne that is intimidating to say the least and implies by its very nature a ruthless tyrant bent on the destruction of any who opposes him? Is this a democracy where the president is subject to the laws, constitution and the people?

Second the is a golden crown in his lap that has what it looks as serpents rising above the ring. Crowns are worn by kings, emperors or royalty not by presidents.

Most significant is the cross bow sitting on the table in front of him with no arrow in it. There are three spheres colored red, green and white that could represent the colors of Islam.

At this point I am introducing Rev 6:1 below.

New International Version

The Seals

1I watched as the Lamb opened the first of the seven seals. Then I heard one of the four living creatures say in a voice like thunder, “Come!” 2I looked, and there before me was a white horse! Its rider held a bow, and he was given a crown, and he rode out as a conqueror bent on conquest.

Mr. Obama’s picture announces his believe that he is the rider of the white horse or the Antichrist that will rule for the seven years of Apocalypse.

It is fitting at this point to introduce another scripture that foretells his fate at the end of these seven years.

Rev 19:19-21 (NIV)

19Then I saw the beast and the kings of the earth and their armies gathered together to wage war against the rider on the horse and his army. 20But the beast was captured, and with it the false prophet who had performed the signs on its behalf. With these signs he had deluded those who had received the mark of the beast and worshiped its image. The two of them were thrown alive into the fiery lake of burning sulfur. 21The rest were killed with the sword coming out of the mouth of the rider on the horse, and all the birds gorged themselves on their flesh.

There is another very important prop in the orchestrated picture that stood out to me and that is the once chief of staff Mr. Jack Lew sitting at the right side of Mr. Biden. Wikipedia identifies him as a devout Orthodox Jew from a corporate background, not necessarily a liberal democrat or so they say, regardless, as well as Emanuel before him they are both Jews that have become willing participants to the big deception that this man is trying to pull to the nation of Israel.

The Beast fully possessed by Satan will try to destroy the whole nation of Israel in the second half of the Tribulation and to do that he must con and lie to the likes of these gullible Jews that fail to recognize him as the biggest enemy they have had since the time of the patriarchs.

Jesus in referring to this man said: John 5:43

New International Version
I have come in my Father’s name, and you do not accept me; but if someone else comes in his own name, you will accept him.

Oh! what a fool he will make of those who accept him.

Nando

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Legend has it the first king of Westeros, Aegon Targaryen, created the Iron Throne with the swords of a thousand fallen enemies.

Nando

http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/may2015/ronr531.htm

Ron Reese (31 May 2015)
Several more Signs of the End of the Age


   OBAMA HAS A BOW, AND IS GIVEN A CROWN IN REVELATION 6:2
Please notice the picture below, where Obama has a giant BOW in front of him, sits in the SEAT OF ROYALTY, has a CROWN on his lap, and is wearing a purple tie, the color of ROYALTY.  Shades of Revelation 6:2.  This is NOT just a subtle message, it is a BLATANT SIGN of what the NWO elite have in store for this evil, Islamic President of the U.S., the man CHOSEN to become the Antichrist.

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This part is a comment that bears further understanding on the photo

Submitted on 2015/06/03 at 2:52 pm

This picture is actually on the official Whitehouse Twitter page.
The White House tweeted this photo captioned “The Westeros Wing” while President Obama was at the White House Correspondents’ Dinner trading jokes with reporters on May 3, 2014 – U.S. President Barack Obama and other government officials in a meeting in the Oval Office in the White House. The photo has been edited to make Obama appear to sit on the Iron Throne from the TV series Game of Thrones, and props from the series have also been added to the image. Posted on the White House Twitter feed as “The Westeros Wing”, in allusion to the TV series The West Wing and the fictional continent in Game of Thrones, Westeros (http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:The_Westeros_Wing.jpg)

What President in his right mind would purposely have this on the official Whitehouse website? O knows exactly who he is and the purpose for having in on the website was understood by those who he wanted to get the message!

May 31, 2015 The Church of Christ is Going Back to its Jewish Roots and Jews are Going to Jesus

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This long video of Rabbi Jonathan Cahn covers a multitude of important issues that are transforming the world we live in into one of open rebellion against God and the Bible.

As we approach the seven years of Apocalypse the world is gradually transforming into two factions, those who will fallow Jesus and those who will chose Satan. Which side will you find yourself in? The decision each person makes will determine where you will spend eternity.

The coming seven year Apocalypse is a time where God and Satan are forcing humanity to take a stand for one or the other.

Know this that if you are mired in sin and refuse to yield to the Lordship of Christ in your life you will not survive the coming times and your destiny is to join Satan in hell.

Satan will force every person in the world to worship him as god and will cut your head if you do not. If you decide to worship him Jesus will judge you at the end of the Apocalypse, find you guilty, kill you and send you to Hades to await the final judgment. At the white Throne Judgment of Jesus you will be handed sentence and thrown forever into the Lake of Fire.

Nando

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May 16, 2015 “Who Has Risen To The Top? MAS0NS vs CATH0LICS in the US Govt.” Thanks to Jovial

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Very good article explaining the rift behind the scenes of the competing forces involved here for the control of power and influence.

Thanks Jovial.

http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/may2015/jovial510-6.htm

Nando

Jovial (10 May 2015)
Who Has Risen To The Top?  MAS0NS vs CATH0LICS in the US Govt.


Let me say THANKS to Luis Vega for his post at http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/may2015/luisv53.htm that documents the MAS0NIC influence behind our Government.  This is something that if you ever take a tour of Wasington DC, you may even find that your tour guide will openly admit to many of these things.  It is not a secret people are trying to suppress, but something very much out in the open.

If there is a power that controls our Government from behind the scenes, it is a very PRO-MAS0N and ANTI-CATHOLIC influence, something I will document in this post.

Masons and Catholics are bitter enemies.  Join the Masens and you can be ex-communicted by the Vatican.  These two groups DON’T LIKE EACH OTHER!!!  And the Masons did their best to stamp our Vatican influence ever since they got started influencing our Government, which, as you can see from Vega’s post, wast least since our self-rule days.

Here’s some startling stats;

  • MAS0NS are 96 times more likely to be elected president than the average person.
  • CATHOLICS are 5.25 times LESS like to get elected than the average person.

Since FDR, members of groups with known I11uminati connections have risen to the top in unusually high disproportion.  FDR was a 33 degree Mason, a group with well publicized ties to the I11uminati.  So well publicized that I doubt I even have to document it for this crowd. He dumped his Vice President in 1940 for a running mate who was also reached that 33rd level. In 1944, he switched again and once again picked a 33 degree running mate, Harry Truman, who later became president.  So we had a Mason as President from 1932 to 1952.

Eisenhower and Kennedy were both among the few RECENT presidents with no known ties to any secret societies, and both men warned America about such groups.  They governed according to their conscious.

Nixon had no known strong ties to these organizations that I have been able to find.  He did talk about attending Bohemian ceremonies, but criticized it at the same time and was shocked by it.

Gerald Ford was a Mason.  Jimmy Carter had ties to the Trilateral commission.  George Bush I and II were both members of Skull and Bones, which is associated with the Masons and uses their symbolism.  Bill Clinton was a member of a Masonic sponsored youth organization, but never became one himself.  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Bilderberg_participants lists him as a Bildeberger.

Since 1932, that’s 11 of 21 elections won by men with OPEN ties to groups understood to be controlled by “THEM” and 9 Masonic.  It wouldn’t shock me if some of the guys with no PUBLIC ties had some behind the scenes. (Such as links drawn between our current Prez and George Soros.)  But only 1.4 million Americans are Masens.  Thus, Masens have been  96 times more successful (9/21*315/1.4=96) at winning the White House than their proportion of the population would suggest since 1932.  For Catholics, its been 1 of 21 in the same time period, despite being 1 of 4 Americans.  So Catholics have been 5.25 LESS LIKELY to win (1/4*21/1=5.25), Masons 96 times MORE LIKELY to win.  Would that lead you to suspect that the Vatican control our government behind the scenes, or the Masens do?

I documented several things about the political impotence of Rome

Whoever controls the power behind the scenes of our Government, if anyone does, has been pro-Mason and Anti-Catholic.  That is very clear by WHO has risen to the top.  There is a simple reason for the anti-Catholic influences that were part of the founding of the USA.  The groups who WANTED to control our government from behind the scenes were afraid of the Vatican, because the Vatican had a history of doing exactly that.  So Masons and other groups vieing for power wanted to outlaw Vatican influence before it got started so THEY could control the Government from behind the scenes.  They saw the Vatican as competiton, and sought to stamp them out before they got started.

Shalom,

Joe

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May 16, 2015 Excellent points supporting the Pre-Tribulation Rapture of the Church

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In the series of reasons for the Pre-Tribulation Rapture, Pastor Bob has presented an air tight case for the Pre-Tribulation Rapture.

I concur 100% with his teaching as it follows the true interpretation of the Bible concerning the relationship of the church to Jesus and His coming to take us home.

I was also watching Zola Levitt about the time he started his ministry and learned the significance of the Jewish Feasts since then.

Thanks Pastor Bob for all your series of articles and the time you have dedicated to them.

Pastor Bob I also believe like you that the 7 years are all of tribulation and wrath and that the idea that there is going to be 3 and a half years of peace is false and leads to grievous error of interpretation.

What greater judgment upon the world and the USA than letting the Antichrist, Barack Hussein Obama be their president and use the nation to become the Antichrist and dominate the world. Israel will confirm the covenant in the future, but America created the conditions for the Antichrist!

Nando

http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/may2015/pastorbob510-3.htm

Pastor Bob (10 May 2015)
“Pre-Tribultaion Truth – 12″


All Doves:This will now be the fifth block of data points, exegesis, analysis of the accumulating evidence for supporting a Pre-Tribulation Rapture.  I set each block at 50 points for structure and reading ease.  Now to the growing evidence for our verdict supporting a Pre-Tribulation Rapture.

201.  So there is definitely no peace on Earth during the first 3-1/2 years of the Tribulation like “Pre-Wrathers imply!  The Judgments fall from God’s throne (showing that it’s from God and the Lamb (Christ Jesus) from the very beginning of the opening of the Scroll.  The opening of the Scroll starts a series of catastrophes which are sent onto the Earth.  This is not the “wrath of man” or “the wrath of Satan” (even though God uses them as agent of His judgments).  The origin of the wrath is from the very presence of God, and is judgment from Him (His wrath).  The source of the “seven” year Tribulation is all of God’s doing or by permission.  Note:  the 24 elders are in heaven, worshiping the Lamb beforeHe even receives the Scroll with the “Seven” Seals.  The Bride/Church is in heaven before the Four Horsemen are set loose upon the Earth.  That fact alone confirms the Rapture will be a Pre-Tribulation event.  I could have stopped right here and need go no further.

202.  The Scroll is defined, it’s the “Title Deed” (a legal document) to the Earth itself (which rightly belongs to the Lord God Himself).  Yet the Scroll is also a parchment of Judgments, by which Christ Jesus will take possession of what’s rightly His.  In order for Jesus to gain back that which belongs to Him, the enemies of God must be destroyed.  -(Psalms 2:1-12; Revelation 5:1-14).

203.  The Scroll is written on both sides, containing lamentations, mournings and woes.  It’s “the Curse” which goes out over the whole Earth.  The dimensions of the Scroll are the same as “The Holy of Holies” which shows that the Judgments are sent from the Throne of God -(Ezekiel 2:9-10; Ezekiel 3:1-9; Zechariah 5:1-4; Revelation 6:1-17; Revelation 10:8-11.  In chapter 10, the Scroll is open, showing that Jesus had already ripped the seals off in chapter 6.  Revelation 10 is a picture of Christ Jesus laying claim to the Earth, by the legal means of the Open Scroll, yet more judgment must occur to complete the transaction.

204.  The First Seal reveals the Antichrist, who is indeed a Judgment (wrath) from God upon Israel, for their sin of rejecting Christ Jesus at His First Coming.  Jesus Christ came unto His own (Israel) and they received Him not. Remember the prophecy, that if one comes in his own name (the Antichrist), they will receive him, another coming in his name.  -(John 1:11; John 5:43).

205.  Isaiah 28:15-18 calls the “Peace” Covenant between Israel and the Antichrist, revealed by the First Seal, “a covenant with death” and “an agreement with hell”.  If that’s not Wrath and Judgment, then just what is it?

206.  The Seal Judgments are clearly the Wrath of the Lamb (Jesus), Who Himself performs the Judgments of God in the “Tribulation”.  -(Revelation 6:16; 2nd Timothy 4:1; and 2nd Timothy 4:8).

207.  At the opening of the 6th Seal, kings and great men and people on the Earth finally realize that God’s Wrath is upon them.  It took major events in the heavens, and an earthquake, to awaken these blinded people so they can recognize what’s been going on.  The people say they must hide from the Wrath of the Lamb.  In this, we can see the Judgment is from Christ Jesus, as He removes the Seals, so it is His Wrath that is poured out on Earth.  The people add, “For the great day of His wrath is come (is present).”  Therefore, the Seals contain the Wrath of God.  -(Revelation 6:16-17).

208.  The 7th Seal, on the Scroll brings ominous silence in Heaven.  Also proceeding from the 7th Seal are the Trumpet Judgments.  The harsher judgments of God are unleashed when the 7th Seal is opened.  The Trumpets come forth from the 7th Seal, bringing increased Wrath in Revelation 8:1-2.

209.  Likewise, “the Bowl Judgments” proceed from the blowing of the 7th Trumpet.  Make a note here, with so much parenthetical information from chapters 11 to 16, it’s extremely difficult to see that progression, but it’s there if one pays particularly close attention to detail.

210.  All of God’s Wrath is contained in the Scroll, and will be set loose in it’s proper order, issuing from the opening of the 7th Seal, which brings the Trumpets, which brings forth the Bowls.  For a clearer picture for this concept, think of a “telescoped” eyeglass with segments that slide out for greater vision, and as each portion of the Judgments proceed from the opening of the 7th Seal, a harsher element of God’s Wrath emerges into view.

211.  The Bowl Judgments “fill-up” and complete the Wrath of God.  The Bowls are not the beginning of God’s Wrath, but the completion of it.  -(Revelation 15:1).

212.  Many people do not fully understand just how bad the “Tribulation” will truly be.  It will be worse than the flood of Noah’s day; no other time like it since the creation of the world! -(Matthew 24:21-22).   I have a thought that I have not heard anyone comment on and that is, when the Pre-Tribulation Rapture occurs, the National economy will collapse as we know it.  Consider this hypothetical thought.  If 150,000,000 adults in America disappear through the Rapture, particularly the economic collapse that will result.  The average income based on government data is about $45,000 a year per person.  The immediate net income loss to the US National economy will be at least $7-Trillion dollars of lost economic activity.  This is a ballpark or an approximate figure, however, the implications are even more profound to say the least.  Mortgages, car payments, truck payments, all abruptly cease!  Groceries will not be bought!  Utilities such as gas, electric, water, sewage, telephone, cable, will go unpaid.  Most businesses operate on small profit margins, Wal-Mart is 3%, they depend on volume to sustain their large profits.  Government payouts for Social Security, Food Stamps, WIC programs, Public Assistance, Disability, Medicare, Medicaid, will all come to a crashing halt, like water over Niagara Falls, NY.  We have all heard the story of airplanes falling out of the sky at the Rapture of Christian pilots, but have you thought about the things as basic as garbage and trash removal?  America is built on a “just-in-time delivery” pipe line.  By that I refer to the supply chain that operates to keep commerce flowing, parts going in one door of a plant to be moved to the assembly line on arrival, installed to the finish product, to the loading dock for shipping out to the retailer.

I remember the economic impact a winter storm had back in 1994 that shut down the Interstates in Kentucky for a week.  Ford has three plants in the Louisville, KY area and they were forced to shut down for over a week.  They [Ford] even threatened the state and city with talk of relocating if the States of Kentucky and Indiana if transportation is permitted to be shut down ever again.  Everything we think of as “business as usual” would cease in a heart beat and bring on the collapse.

Interestingly, there has been talk in financial circles that there will be a global financial “reset” this fall, mid-September to October of 2015.  That may go off with the Rapture at Rosh HaShanah.  Beginning May 1st, JP Morgan-Chase bank began charging its large depositors 1% interest to shelter depositor’s money.  This is a 180-degree turn around from the day you used the bank to save for the future and earn a little interest on your savings!   Other banks will jump on the train as the system implodes!  I could go on but you get the picture by now.

213.  At the end of the “Tribulation” when Jesus arrives at the Armageddon site in the Jezreel Valley, there’s no mention of a Resurrection.  The Rapture (which includes a Resurrection) cannot happen at that time, as Post-Trib. folks insist.  It’s simply not possible!  -(Isaiah 63:1-6; Zechariah 14:1-15; and Revelation 19:11-21).

214.  If there were a Rapture at the end of the “Tribulation”, all the believers who survived would be changed into immortal, glorified bodies.  All the enemies will be destroyed.  There would be no one left in natural-flesh bodies to populate the Millennium!  The Rapture cannot happen at the end of the “Tribulation”.

215.  Some say the “gathering of the elect” in Matthew 24:31 is the “Rapture” at the END of the “Tribulation”.  But, in the Rapture, Jesus calls His own UP to Himself, Angels gather the “elect” at THE END of the “Tribulation”.  The Matthew 24 argument has tripped up most of the denominational Church for centuries, thanks be to the Roman Catholic Institution’s interpretations.

216.  The “elect” of Israel and survivors of the “Tribulation” will be gathered from wherever the Antichrist has scattered them, to the four winds, or directions of the Earth.  Israel will be found gathered in Bozrah, in modern day Jordan.  -(Isaiah 63:1).

217.  The Angels also gather “the elect” from one end of Heaven to the other.  The gathering of Old Testament saints and martyred “Tribulation” saints for the Resurrection of their bodies as seen in Revelation 20:4, so they will be able to participate in the Feast of Tabernacles, which will take place 5 days after Jesus returns, according to the timing of the Feasts of Leviticus 23 that will be fulfilled when Jesus returns.

218.  There’s also the Judgments of the Sheep and Goat nations after Christ Jesus returns to the Earth, and it must take place before the Millennium is officially started.  People are “gathered” from around the globe.

219.  The “Tribulation” period is described in extensive prophecies throughout the Scriptures.  Here is a lengthy list (here a little, there a little) of the words that define it:  “Wastedness, desolation, darkness, gloominess, clouds, thick darkness, blood, vengeance, destruction, fierce anger, fire, jealousy, cruel, trouble, great distress, revenge, furious, arrow drunk with blood, sword, terrible, men’s hearts failing them for fear, the powers of heaven shall be shaken, wars, great earthquakes, famines, pestilences, fearful signs, great tribulation- such as was not from the beginning of the world to this time, the earth utterly broken down, the earth clean dissolved, the moon shall be confounded, the sun ashamed, to punish leviathan, to slay the dragon that is in the sea, a covenant with death, an overflowing scourge, hail shall sweep away the refuge of lies, your agreement with hell, you shall be trodden down by it, the earth shall reel to and fro like a drunkard, the stars of heaven shall not give their light, I will shake the heavens, the earth shall remove out of her place (her orbit and axis?), to punish the world for their evil and the wicked for their iniquity, lamentations, mournings, woe, sound an alarm, let all the inhabitants of the land tremble, they shall run like mighty men, they shall climb the wall like men of war, the people shall be much pained, howl ye, the moon became as blood, stars of heaven fell to the earth, the curse that goes forth over the face of the whole earth, death and hell followed with him, thundering, lightnings, the smoke of the pit, men shall seek death-and shall not find it, the torment of a scorpion, it (the sea) became the blood of a dead man, men were scorched with great heat, they gnawed their tongues for pain, every island fled and the mountains were not found, except those days be shortened-there should be no flesh saved, and then the end shall come.”  These are just some of the phrases that I collected from Scripture back when I was researching the Scriptures for descriptive “cosmological” signs that might have been descriptive confirmation of “Planet-X” which Marshall Masters was observing the skies for over the past decade.  That was back around 2010.  This list is not a complete list by any means.  This is the Wrath from which the Bride/Church is promised to be delivered from!  The list still remains a pretty good description of what Gil Broussard talks about in his study of Planet-7X, which, if it is correct, times with the period from September-October through April-May of 2016.

220.  There is no proof that the 8th Trumpet of Revelation is the so-called “last” trumpet of 1st Corinthians 15:52. That explanation is just the result of people erroneously concluding their preconceived ideas and assumptions, that the Pre-Wrath folks are as they claim.  The Pre-Tribulation Rapture position is the only Rapture view that maintains the proper distinction between the prophetic trumps of the Bride/Church, and the Judgment Trumpets of the Tribulation.  The Pre-Wrath position, in its over-simplification fails to take into consideration that the difference between the First Half and the Second Half of the Seven year Tribulation is more a matter of degrees than in substance.  The twenty-one judgments are just that, judgments!

221.  The Apostle Paul wrote about the “Last” Trumpet decades before John saw the Seven “Judgment Trumpets” of the Revelation.  The Apostle Paul’s “last trump” was written in the mid 50’s and certainly by 60 AD at the latest.  John’s vision came 30+ years later – about 95/96 AD.  The Apostle Paul could not have known about the 7th and “Last Trumpet” of Revelation before it was revealed to John on the Isle of Patmos!

222.  The “Trump of God” brings in blessing, eternal life, glorified bodies.  -(1st Thessalonians 4:16).  The “Seven Trumpets” of the Revelation of Jesus Christ brings destruction upon the enemies and God’s wrath for sure.

223.  The “Trump of God” is distinctly for the Bride/Church.  Since God deals with Israel and a rebellious world in the Tribulation, the 7th Trumpet cannot refer to the Bride/Church without losing the distinctions between Israel and the Church.

224.  The Last Trump for the Bride/Church in the Pre-Tribulation Rapture is the Trump of God.  The Revelation Trumpets are blown by Angels.  Folks these are not simply different terms describing the same thing or event.  Much of the confusion about the Rapture event comes from tripping over the word “trump” or “trumpets”.  Failure to understand Biblical terms are the result of over simplification through ignorance.

225.  The Last Trump for the Bride/Church is to”call an assembly” to rise and meet Christ Jesus in the air.  The Revelation Trumpets send God’s Judgments onto a rebellious world.

226.  The Last Trump for the Bride/Church is  a call to come worship at God’s throne.  The Revelation Judgments’ Trumpets cause people to harden their hearts and they do not repent.  -(Revelation 9:20-21).

227.  The Last Trump for the Bride/Church is for believers.  The 7th Trumpet Judgment in Revelation is for unbelievers.

228.  The Last Trump for the Bride/Church is an act of God’s Grace.  The 7th Trumpet Judgment in Revelation is an act of God’s Wrath.

229.  In the Trump of God passage, for the Bride/Church, we are exhorted to “Comfort one another with these words”.  At the 7th Trumpet in Revelation, “the nations will be angry.”

230.  When the “Last Trump” blows for the Bride/Church at the Pre-Tribulation Rapture, Jesus was not to be found in heaven (like He is at the sounding of the 7th Revelation Trumpet).  Instead, Jesus descends into the air to call the Bride/Church unto Himself.   In the Revelation passage of the 7th Trumpet, there is no mention of Jesus descending, shouting, or being in the clouds.

231.  The “Last Trump” for the Bride/Church in the Pre-Tribulation Rapture and the 7th Trumpet of the Resurrection cannot be the same event.  Folks need to do a word study on trumpets!

232.  In Numbers 10:1-10, the use of trumpets are defined.  Two silver trumpets were constructed for the purpose of “calling the assembly together to worship” and for “the journeying of the camps”.  When the camp was called to move, One trumpet would blow and the east part of the camp went forward.  A Second trumpet would sound and the south part of the camp would move.  Numbers 10:1-10 doesn’t mention the north and west sides, or the tribe of Levi and the Tabernacle (as viewed from Numbers 2:1-34), but a third, fourth, and fifth trumpet must have sounded for the moving of the camps.  At the Last Trumpet, the whole camp would be moving.  We have a similar pattern of illustrating this point In the military.  When there is a change of the commanding general of a division-size unit, there is usually a division parade of its troops.  All the units that make up the division, under the commanding general “troop” their unit colors and march past the change of command ceremonies on a parade field.  Individual units from company-sized or smaller up to battalion, regiment, and brigade-size parade march past the old and new commanding general’s, usually of 2-star rank.  This is a picture of how the 12 tribes responded to the trumpet in some ways resembles the change of command that takes place at the Christ’s Second Coming.

233.  The Apostle Paul, being a well-taught Jew, had to know the meaning of the Last Trumpet (by the Jewish definition).  At the Last Trump for the Bride/Church, which is a signal that our work is done, the whole assembly of the Bride/Church will move the “camp” to Heaven.

234.  Some people think the ascension of the “two witnesses” in Revelation 11:12 is the Pre-Tribulation Rapture of the Bride/Church.  The “two-witnesses” are raised from the dead before the blowing of the 7th Trumpet in Revelation!  But at the very instant the Trump is blown for the Bride/Church, the resurrection/rapture will happen.  There is only ONE Rapture of the Bride/Church, not two, not three, just One!

235.  Some people think the ascension of the “Two Witnesses” in Revelation 11:12 is the Rapture of the Bride/Church.  The Bride/Church will be Raptured in the twinkling of an eye.  The twinkling of the eye is instantaneous, a split fraction of a second!  For the Bride/Church , it’s “Now you see them – now you don’t!”  But the “two witnesses” will have time to stand on their feet and the whole world will watch them on satellite TV.  The resurrection of the “two witnesses” cannot be the Pre-Tribulation Rapture of the Bride/Church.  Call it what you want but it is not the Pre-Tribulation Rapture of the Bride/Church.

236.  In Exodus 19:16-20, there’s a “Trump of God” as God descended upon Mt. Sinai; no angels or people blew this trumpet, but God Himself.  At the second occurrence of the Trump of God, at the Pre-Tribulation Rapture of the Bride/Church, no angels or people will blow it.

237At Mt. Sinai and in the Pre-Tribulation Rapture, both the Trump of God and an Audible Voice and are heard.  Exodus 19:19 states that Moses heard the voice of God.  In 1st Thessalonians 4:16, the Raptured hear the shout of Christ Jesus.

238.  At Mt. Sinai, Israel was redeemed from slavery to Egypt.  At the Rapture, the Bride/Church was redeemed from our sinful flesh (which can indeed hold a Christian in slavery, if we don’t reckon ourselves dead to sin through Jesus).

239.  At Mt. Sinai, God dwelt with Israel.  At the Rapture, the Bride/Church dwells with Christ Jesus.

240.  The “Trump of God” sounded on Mt. Sinai for Israel on the Feast of Pentecost.  The “Second and Last Trump of God”, relates to a Bride/Church that began at Pentecost.

241.  The “Trump of God” is a different Trumpet than the ones used in the judgments of the Tribulation.  The 7th Trumpet cannot be the Last Trumpet of the Bride/Church’s Rapture!

242.  The “Seven Feasts of the Lord”, given to Israel in Leviticus 23:1-44 is God’s Timetable, like a “Program Guide” that you would get at a major league baseball game.  They show “Prophetic Fulfillment’s” of Christ’s Atonement, the crucifixion of Jesus, to the Resurrection of Jesus, the Pre-Tribulation Rapture of the Bride/Church, the marriage of the Lamb, and the Second Coming of Jesus Christ.

243.  Four of the Feasts are fulfilled on the exact day, and even more precisely to the very moment of the precise day, when Israel observed them!  Passover on the 14th day of Nisan, the First Month of Israel’s religious world. Jesus was crucified on the very same day as the Lamb of God, who takes away the sins of the world.  Unleavened Bread, the 15th of Nisan; Jesus was buried by Sundown, the start of the Feast of Unleavened Bread.  Jesus’ burial on that Exact Day represents and fulfills the middle loaf which was hidden and buried in the Feast of Unleavened Bread.  The First fruits, the Sunday after Unleavened Bread (in 32 AD), the exact day occurred three days after Jesus was buried.  On the Third Day, Jesus rose from the dead and became the First fruits of them that died, fulfilled exactly.  Pentecost, also called the “Feast of Weeks,” the 50th day after First fruits.  The Holy Spirit descended upon the First believers of the new Bride/Church.  When Pentecost (Hebrew “Shavuot”) was fulfilled on the exact day of its celebration, the first member of the new Bride/Church were Jews, so the feast was fulfilled in Israel, even though the Bride/Church became predominantly Gentile throughout its history from the second century AD onward.

244.  Since the first four feasts were fulfilled on the exact days Israel observed them, so also, we can safely conclude and assume that the last three feasts will be fulfilled on the exact day of their observance, and most likely at the exact hour and moment.  God does not change.  God is a mathematician.  The Feast of Trumpets (Rosh HaShanah), the first day of the 7th month of Tishri (which is also the First Day of the First month of Israel’s Civil Year)!  This is when Israel celebrates their New Year!  On that day, a new Seven Years will begin for Israel, as Antichrist confirms a Covenant with them, which starts the Tribulation.  The Bride/Church will be Raptured before that event occurs.  Yom Kippur, the Feast of Atonement, the 10th day of the 7th month.  This will be the day that Christ Jesus will Atone for the sins of Israel; they will be forgiven and restored; He will descend to touch His feet down on the Mount of Olives on this day at His Second Coming.  The Second Coming will simultaneously fulfill a Jubilee -(Leviticus 25:9-15) in Israel on the Day of Atonement.  The land will be returned to its rightful owners, and the Earth will be returned rightly to the Lord’s Possession.  Captives will be set free and all debts will be forgiven/cancelled.  All these details are a part of what Jesus will do as His feet touches the Earth on that Day of Atonement.  The Feast of Tabernacles (Sukkot), the 15th day of the 7th Month; five days later after Jesus has returned to the Earth, the celebration of God living with His people (dwelling with, or tabernacling with them) will be celebrated.  Zechariah 14:16, will be fulfilled on the exact day of its celebration!

246.  These Feasts are for Israel.  The Bride/Church has not been instructed to keep them.  -(Colossians 2:16-17).  It is true that they are called the Feasts of the Lord, but the Bride/Church is an anachronism to the Jews, because of their having failed to recognize their Redeemer/Messiah/Savior.  God set Israel aside, because they failed to recognize the day of their salvation.  The entity we know as the Bride/Church could be understood as God’s “Plan B” in God’s Master Plan.  The overarching theme of Scripture is God’s Grace.  It’s all about what God is doing, for you and me, and even the Apple of His Eye!

247.  Some teach that the Rapture of the Bride/Church will happen on Pentecost to End the Bride/Church Age on the same day the Church was birthed.  The reason that this is incorrect is based upon three reasons.  1.  Although the Church was born on Pentecost, it fulfilled a Feast Day for Israel, because the First who were born into the Church were Jews.  2.  If we needed to wait for the Lord to Rapture His Bride/Church on Pentecost (from year to year), it destroys imminence.  3.  We will not know the day or the hour when the Bride/Church will be Raptured, so we are exhorted to be watching for Christ Jesus.  The fact that Rosh HaShanah is a two-day feast, we cannot possibly know the exact precise moment, despite there are allusions of what time that might be.  This is why Jesus referred to or used the Hebrew “Idiom” that “no man knows the day nor the hour” – it pointed the Disciples to the only Feast Day that is two days in length because it is declared by the sighting of the New Moon!  The Feast Day was God’s way of hinting in advance how the process could be observed or to get our attention of what was approaching.  God’s Grace was at work in the Old Testament as well when it came to God’s methods of revealing His Master Plan of human redemption.

248.  Some teach that the Pre-Tribulation Rapture of the Bride/Church will happen on the Feast of Trumpets (because of the Trumpets, in relation to the Rapture).  The idea is based on what I consider to be true but nonetheless as some what misleading:  1.  The Trumpets blow to announce a New Year in Israel, not to Rapture the Bride/Church per se.   This also forces the idea that the Bride/Church will be Raptured at the same time that the Antichrist signs the “peace treatment” (their covenant with death) with Israel (which starts the Tribulation).  There is nothing in Bible prophecy to suggest that at the instant the Bride/Church is removed, the Tribulation begins.  It might and it might not.  It’s logical that some time must pass, between the Rapture and when the Antichrist gains enough power to make that covenant.  2.  If we need to wait for the Lord to Rapture His Bride/Church on some future Feast of Trumphets, it destroys imminence.  3.  We will not know the day or the hour when the Bride/Church will be Pre-Tribulation Raptured, so we are exhorted to be watching, waiting, and working for Christ Jesus.  Because Rosh HaShanan is a two-day Feast, dependent upon the observance of the New Moon becoming visible from Jerusalem, imminence is always present.  It is this element why the Feast is known or referred to as the “Unknown Day”.  As I have noted before many believe Rosh HaShanah is the time of the Pre-Tribulation, but not always for all the correct reasons.  Rosh HaShanah overlaps three calendar days when you understand it from the time reckoning of the Jews.  This year, Rosh HaShanah begins at Sundown on our September 15th and ends at Sundown on September 17th of 2015.  This fact that Rosh HaShanah spans 72-hours on our western calendar certainly enables the teaching of Imminence to be sustained.  I’m not trying to split hairs here but I believe it satisfies both the requirement definition of imminence and the “unknown day” of the Feast Day of Rosh HaShanah as well; and being cognizant of the 13 symbolic meanings that accompany this Feast Day.  Most Christian theologians were unaware of just how significant the Feast Days of Leviticus 23 are until the early 1990’s.  In my own education on the ‘Hebrew Roots’ movement, I first learned how Christ Jesus had fulfilled the ‘Feasts’ literally, physically, spiritually, and prophetically from Zola Levitt and Eddie Chumney, both Messianic Jews around 1990.  In the past few years, a controversy occurred in which led to Eddie Chumney being taken off the ‘GLC Network’.  Zola Levitt, from Pittsburgh, PA, was a regular Messianic believer on Pittsburgh’s Christian station Cornerstone CTV40.  I knew Zola personally from his days at Duquesne University from where he graduated.  We met through attending courses on Jewish/Christian cultural studies when I was a seminary student at Pittsburgh Theological Seminary.   Zola died of cancer in 2006.  I faithfully viewed ‘Zola Levitt Presents’ every Sunday afternoon at 4:00 pm on CTV40.  I can state unequivocally that Zola Levitt was a solid believer in the Pre-Tribulation Rapture doctrine, and that the Tribulation was not for Christians, but for his people, the Jews.  I’m aware of an existing controversy between the ‘Hebrew Roots’ movement and many within the Christian community but I’m not informed enough to know or comment much more about issues over Eddie Chumney.  I have all of his excellent books, even going so far as to buy extra copies.

249.  Where is the sound Biblical doctrine showing that the Rapture occurs or could occur at sometime within the Tribulation?  There is none!  The Mid-Trib, Pre-Wrath, Post-Trib positions are indefensible when one studies the whole counsel of God, the whole Bible, and not just ‘cherry-picking’ a few verses to support your view.

250.  There is indeed sound Biblical evidence for the doctrine showing that the Rapture of the Bride/Church is Pre-Tribulational in many ways.  I believe that from the evidence laid out in these segments of ‘Pre-Tribulation Truth’ there is no legitimate conclusion in justifying the holding to any other position on this topic.  Those sites that choose to deny the evidence, have not changed their Pre-Wrath Rapture Babble dog and pony show that cannot see and recognize the Biblical Truth for what it is, the Truth!  Like the “Energizer” bunny, they have only one choice but to continue their beating out the same old drum beat.  As it is said the definition of insanity is to do the same old thing and expect different results.

Obviously, there could be other points that I have not noted or overlooked.  This is a compilation over thousands of hours of study over the course of a half-century.   I will concede a point here that it is conceivable for my having overlooked some particular point, but I am confident that I have compiled an exhaustive list of the cogent elements, throughout my research on the “Theme of the Bride Motif”; analysis of the “Hebrew wedding’s 18 specific details” associated with the “Theme of the Bride Motif” as well.  I shared those specifics last year in a number of posts.

It is not always possible to compile a total comprehensive overview of all the cogent points to support my premise, and while effort to avoid duplications was a concern, invariably a point or two might have been repeated as the result of analysis from a different perspective relative to the text.  As I was typing this fifth segment several new, quite a few points have come to mind.  I jotted them down for analysis and later sharing.

Next time in this series of posts I will return to more examples of men who taught the Pre-Tribulation Rapture long long ago, and certainly, well before Margaret MacDonald or John Nelson Darby.  “Let God be true but every man a liar”, particularly those men and women who lie about Margaret MacDonald and John Nelson Darby for originating the idea of the Pre-Tribulation Rapture!   This goes double for those that slander and defame C.I.Scofield.  Remember, it was the Apostle Paul who was the first to teach the Pre-Tribulation Rapture.

Keep looking up, were approaching the countdown on the calendar to the four month point to Rosh HaShanah.  Each day I can sense its closeness!  Maranatha and blessings to all.

Pastor Bob

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http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/mar2015/pastorbob329-2.htm

http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/apr2015/pastorbob45-1.htm

http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/apr2015/pastorbob45-2.htm

http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/apr2015/pastorbob45-3.htm

http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/apr2015/pastorbob412-1.htm

http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/apr2015/pastorbob412-2.htm

http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/apr2015/pastorbob412-3.htm

http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/apr2015/pastorbob426-1.htm

http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/apr2015/pastorbob426-3.htm

http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/may2015/pastorbob53-1.htm

http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/may2015/pastorbob53-5.htm

http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/may2015/pastorbob510-3.htm

 

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